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Old 09-29-2009, 01:20 PM
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Default why this is happenning in Tomb Raider ?

I Love this game .
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I dont like the game to finish in a short time
But I see that with every new Tomb Raider unleashed I discover that it is shorter than the earlier
Why not making it long with more difficulty
Cause to me
Tomb Raider 4 is the hardest and longest
while 6 7 8 are like a walk in the park
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:23 PM
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Yeah, that's been a sore point here since for about forever. None of us can figure out why the games are so short either, so you're not alone.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:09 AM
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If this is an official Forum for Eidos then there should be a way to ask more from them and making them hear our thoughts .
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:47 AM
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Yeah, that's been a sore point here since for about forever. None of us can figure out why the games are so short either, so you're not alone.
I'm not 100% sure but I think it's down to the fact that the newer TR's don't have a big budget compared to a lot of other franchises, namely, GTA, Resident Evil, MGS.

Like CD will spend money on the looks of Lara and put as much detail into the levels (about 4 or 5 levels) and Lara. So rather than spend money making the games longer, isn't it better they spend the money on a short, tight game as opposed to a long, drawn out and possibly even empty levels?

Perhaps that isn't the reason but it's my view anyway.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:01 AM
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I dont think so cause the TR game is one of the most impressive game in the world
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I dont think so cause the TR game is one of the most impressive game in the world

Ah, but TR was in it's day i.e. the classics. I think the word 'impressive' (in gaming terms and my own view) means that it does something to revolutionize the way we play games, that TR1 did with the whole 3D concept.

But a lot of other developer do get a lot more to play around with and there are games that do sell more than TR nowadays. The longer a game runs the more it seems to loose popularity.
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I Love this game .
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I dont like the game to finish in a short time
But I see that with every new Tomb Raider unleashed I discover that it is shorter than the earlier
Why not making it long with more difficulty
Cause to me
Tomb Raider 4 is the hardest and longest
while 6 7 8 are like a walk in the park
Welcome to this current generation of gaming.


It's not an isolated incident, play some more games this generation on any system that is similar or the exact same genre as Tomb Raider and you'll finish those games just as fast, if not sooner.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:00 AM
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Perhaps
but I guess they should make the game more difficult so we spend more time trying
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but I guess they should make the game more difficult so we spend more time trying
I do hope the next one is longer or failing that, make it more challenging.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:05 PM
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but I guess they should make the game more difficult so we spend more time trying
I don't see that happening anytime soon this generation with any game, Tomb Raider or other games
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It's not an isolated incident, play some more games this generation on any system that is similar or the exact same genre as Tomb Raider and you'll finish those games just as fast, if not sooner.
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I don't see that happening anytime soon this generation with any game, Tomb Raider or other games
Both QFT. Sadly.
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In polls somewhere around here everyone voted what CD did best in TR. Length and challenge seemed to be the thing least people were doing well.

Whatever other game companies are doing with length I think it's clear the TR games would benefit to be longer and more difficult. Maybe the intense detail in the recent graphics and lack of backtracking has made the games smaller.
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Well
Let 's hope this time they make a real chalenging game
So I dont finish it in a few days and wait a year for the next one.
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anniversary was hard for me because i had to use walkthroughs. legend was my first tomb raider game and it was hard. underworld was more or less pips.
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Let 's hope this time they make a real chalenging game
So I dont finish it in a few days and wait a year for the next one.
Don't get your hopes up, if you want a long game,stick to RPG's.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:59 AM
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anniversary was hard for me because i had to use walkthroughs. legend was my first tomb raider game and it was hard. underworld was more or less pips.
You said Legend was your first
OK
Thats why you find Anniversary hard
You didnt Play Tomb raider 3 4 5
when you play those then you will see how easy Legend and anniversary and underworld
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:40 AM
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Look at it this way:

'your making a game, do you want people to give up because they are stuck/frustrated or do you want everybody to see the ending of your masterpiece?'

I my eyes games aren't something invented for you to spend hours or months at a time playing, perhaps years ago yes but not many people have the time now. To me they are a means of mindless entertainment every now and then.

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i've played the demo's... except tomb raider 4 demo crashes my computer.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:13 PM
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Look at it this way:

'your making a game, do you want people to give up because they are stuck/frustrated or do you want everybody to see the ending of your masterpiece?'

I my eyes games aren't something invented for you to spend hours or months at a time playing, perhaps years ago yes but not many people have the time now. To me they are a means of mindless entertainment every now and then.

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this is the Internet age : no one stuck cause there is walkthrought for bigenners

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i've played the demo's... except tomb raider 4 demo crashes my computer.
I guess no wrong in the game cause I play it on Playstation 1 and PC and works fine.

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Old 10-04-2009, 07:07 PM
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this is the Internet age : no one stuck cause there is walkthrought for bigenners
This isn't ideal. Making a game so hard that it does not allow newcomers to the party?
You might as well write "DO NOT BUY ME. I DO NOT WANT YOUR MONEY" on the title box, because that's the message the game designers send in doing something like that.
You have to consider that there are gamers of a wide variety and skill playing this game. If a gamer has to choose where to invest their money - between a game they can play and have fun with and a game they're unable to play - they're going to pick the fun option almost all the time.
A game should not be so hard that it requires a walkthrough for gamers who haven't played the games before...

However, a game that's ridiculously easy isn't going to be good either. There's no challenge, no fun. You can't get away with selling a game that doesn't appeal to the more intense stream of gamers, either. (Oh yeah, and the development companies need money. A fair amount given how expensive these games are to make).
The trouble here is that there're always going to be veterans of the series. It's impractical to make a game that caters for both the newbies and the hardcore veterans. (i.e. either the game is going to be too hard for newcomers, or too easy for the longterm veterans).

I hope the idea of Player Tailoring gets further developed in future games. (link). The conclusion there is that PT could be used to make the game easier where need be. That's one aspect. Another aspect I'd hope for is making the game harder...

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I guess no wrong in the game cause I play it on Playstation 1 and PC and works fine.
It's unfortunate that because of technology and compatability the earlier Core TR games are so difficult to get running and play.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:01 AM
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I agree but
They must make it more challenging game
Harder Oppenonts
more Riddles and a little bit harder


Besides:
I don't know why Erasing Croft manor from the play as it was In Legend
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:10 AM
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aWell I love evry TR game becose evry one has something special...but somehow I want a good gameplay as TRU had and big story as AOD...
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You said Legend was your first
OK
Thats why you find Anniversary hard
You didnt Play Tomb raider 3 4 5
when you play those then you will see how easy Legend and anniversary and underworld
So. For "tombraidergal" was hard TRU. But this is the first game Tomb Raider!!!! "tombraidergal" play ONLY this game! Don't 3, 4, 5! When he played this game, then says: "OHHH! Tomb Raider 4 - more difficultly, then TRU or TRL"
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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So. For "tombraidergal" was hard TRU. But this is the first game Tomb Raider!!!! "tombraidergal" play ONLY this game! Don't 3, 4, 5! When he played this game, then says: "OHHH! Tomb Raider 4 - more difficultly, then TRU or TRL"
No
He said TR4 Crashs his computer ( errors)
He either couldn't play it or had proplems later
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Maybe there creative thought is limited.
I love TR4 also.
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