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[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

Anybody else a little shocked about the demo where the player who was horrible by the way, snuck up behind 3 villans stealth killing each one. The best part being they were a few feet away form each other the guy grunts as he's getting taken down and the other guys are still poised guns up but don't hear or turn around. what are your thoughts....I'm still for this game but I hope they correct that...

[Black Mask]

I wouldn't have expected them to hear it... The grunt is just something they added in for Batman to hear, he is covering their mouths... Besides, even if they did hear something, they'd want to keep focus on the door, where they think Batman is coming in.

[Ensanguined Walls]

They probably had the demo on God Mode. I hope it isn't as easy as that.

[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

sorry I disagree they were still two feet away and they would have heard something....

[Ensanguined Walls]

Originally Posted by Black Mask

I wouldn't have expected them to hear it... The grunt is just something they added in for Batman to hear, he is covering their mouths... Besides, even if they did hear something, they'd want to keep focus on the door, where they think Batman is coming in.

You could still hear the grunting, as it would come through if he was holding their mouth. Their peripheral vision should have detected something two feet away, and the smack you hear when Batman grabs them should have caught the attention of one.

[Black Mask]

I'd still think they'd be keeping firmly focused on the other end of the room... And I don't think the smack and grunts are really 'there'... just something for us to hear... Do you know what I mean, or am I going over your heads?

[Ensanguined Walls]

Originally Posted by Black Mask

I'd still think they'd be keeping firmly focused on the other end of the room... And I don't think the smack and grunts are really 'there'... just something for us to hear... Do you know what I mean, or am I going over your heads?

That makes absolutely no sense. The smack and grunts are both realistic reactions, and they are not something for the player to simply hear. Sounds and sights apply to the thugs and Batman. That's a bad way to justify poor AI, but I think it was simply on God Mode for demo purposes. I think they should at least react, instead of standing there as if they heard NOTHING.

[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

HAHAH AHAHa remin me never to hire you as a guard.....I cant protect you boss Im focused on the door he may come in front of me but behind me is ok...

[Black Mask]

Well, they're not supposed to be smart...

But really, I am just trying to justify it. Game-wise, it would be too dang hard to sneak up behind if they heard your every move.

[DarkKnightDanny]

Originally Posted by Black Mask

Well, they're not supposed to be smart...

But really, I am just trying to justify it. Game-wise, it would be too dang hard to sneak up behind if they heard your every move.

i agree completely. this isnt the first time someone has bought this issue up.

im sure the first lvl is a tutorial so having 3 guards together like this is a great way to learn the basics of silent takedowns.im sure you wont be taking down multiple thugs this way anywhere else in the game.
also. you play as a dude dressing up in a bat costume fighting a massive croc,plant like women, and a man who gains his strengh through a green like substance. this issue should be the least of your worrys no?

[WarrENDeatH]

Originally Posted by Ensanguined Walls

They probably had the demo on God Mode. I hope it isn't as easy as that.

Agreed, I think of all the settings they probably had it on recruit/rookie(below normal). I might play this game just on Hard to get the Batman feeling.

[Abeja]

Even when he gets out of the vent, and talking to Oracle, the thugs are right around the corner. It was just a demo, i expected it to be pretty easy.

[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

I hope so not all flunkys are stupid.......but these guys are straight up retarded.

[Red Hood]

I think the grunts have really bad hearing (which I doubt) or its just supposed to be easy, kind of like a tutorial.

[HeartlessSystem]

well it aint called a silent takedown for nothin'
it wouldnt have a point if guards came when you kill stealthily

[DarkKnight11]

The sound of the strike is probably magnified for our enjoyment. I don't know how many of you have ever punched someone in the gut, but it's not all that loud. And it's pretty dark in the asylum, so maybe the thugs can't see so well.

The vent thing was kinda funny, but Batman pushed kinda slowly with his feet and removes the vent cover carefully after that, so maybe the guard is just oblivious. And his back was turned.

I think we can assume that Batman isn't yelling into his Batphone when talks to Oracle, unlike far too many people with cellphones. It's loud enough for us to hear, but Batman would probably be speaking very softly if we didn't need to hear what he had to say.

[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

I appreciate you trying to defend it but it doesnt make sense...Im still gonna like the game but the ai on that demo is apparently every villan is deaf dumb and blind.

[DarkCrusader67]

i really think batman shouldn't have to punch a dude in the back before he silently takes him down anyways... i can understand like a pressure point squeeze to make their legs collapse or something but it just doesn't seem as "stealthy cool" to me when he hits them first. I think Rocksteady should really consider changing some of the silent takedowns before release

[Ensanguined Walls]

Originally Posted by DarkCrusader67

i really think batman shouldn't have to punch a dude in the back before he silently takes him down anyways... i can understand like a pressure point squeeze to make their legs collapse or something but it just doesn't seem as "stealthy cool" to me when he hits them first. I think Rocksteady should really consider changing some of the silent takedowns before release

They're polishing the game, not changing the gameplay.

[DarkCrusader67]

Originally Posted by Ensanguined Walls

They're polishing the game, not changing the gameplay.

i know i know but aren't they looking for feedback from E3 and these forums? it said in one of the interviews that they were constantly reading the forums to see what they can improve or change to make the game better for the fans.

idk, i don't know much when it comes to game development but i believe it sounds reasonable. and if all else fails, i can still hope!

[WarrENDeatH]

I doubt they over look the forums...


At this point in the video game process, going back and adding stuff that we want doesn't make sense seeing as the game comes out in two months. The best they can do is fix glitches, Make the graphics a bit better and fix sound. It's not like they are going to add like 8 more modes and 12 new levels are something.

[DarkCrusader67]

Originally Posted by WarrENDeatH

I doubt they over look the forums...


At this point in the video game process, going back and adding stuff that we want doesn't make sense seeing as the game comes out in two months. The best they can do is fix glitches, Make the graphics a bit better and fix sound. It's not like they are going to add like 8 more modes and 12 new levels are something.

we're not talking about "adding 8 more modes or 12 new levels or something". It's one type of silent takedown that im nickpicking about lol

and yes they do overlook the forums! ill get a quote for you in a sec...

[Batman:THE DARK KNIGHT]

there are silent take downs one where the cape gets wrapped around a villan and they get maced in the face with something that knocks them out....

[WallaMalla]

You guys are overreacting to a minor, unimportant detail. it's a game for Pete's sake, it wouldn't be cool if the goons heard you and shot you down just like that. It's part of the gameplay, you can't change that.

[BatNipples]

ye calm down. its like one of the first levels so of course its going to be easy to silent takedown someone. if it was too hard then people wouldnt be able to pass the first level because they wouldnt have experiance