Will deus ex 3 have humanoid robots??

[Ghostface]

it would make deus ex more realistic:

http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/03/...n-model-robot/

^^ real robot just made recently for fashion modeling.

[K^2]

Whether robots look like humans or not is part of the style. Once you have descent AI, it's a matter of choice. I think, ultimately, people will not feel comfortable with robots that look too much like humans. They'll want robots that look and sound "like robots". How far that goes is another question. Look at original DX. Not a single humanoid there. Why? Because all the robots there can perform their function just as well while looking like something else. The only factor is utility. Of course, DX3 has the whole renaissance thing going, and nothing would ruin the style as much as a security bot from DX or IW. I'm guessing, what would fit the style the best is robots that look somewhat human, but intentionally made to appear obsolete. Almost steam punk, but without the pipework.

[LatwPIAT]

Originally Posted by K^2

Look at original DX. Not a single humanoid there.

"Some of these people are androids. Look at the way they walk."

[Viktoria]

I could see humanoid robots in DX3 yeah, we have them now so it makes sense if they are seen in the game... though the devs may or may not make reference to them.

[K^2]

Originally Posted by LatwPIAT

"Some of these people are androids. Look at the way they walk."

That's just a poke at Blade Runner, or perhaps even the book it is based on. Note that this is the only mention of the androids in the entire game.

[Viktoria]

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Probably because robots are now obsolete and cyborgs have since replaced them?

[Blade_hunter]

Cyborgs will replace humans in the case of humans have deficient bodyparts
Robots never were obsolètes, compared to organic creatures, a robot is easier to repair and many new technologies were made that the robots will have advantages of organic creatures, like a self repair.
A robot to be close to an organic creature he needs to be a network of small nanorobots, and those robots are linked to form an essential part of the machine.
Hey, This is like the T1000 from Terminator 2 ....

[Sabretooth]

I can totally imagine humanoid robots in Deus Ex 3, the technology's plausible. They won't be super Terminator agents or anything, but I think humanoid robots could be used in the near future for say, replacing personal assistants, or functioning as automated receptionists.

Also makes sense continuity-wise, by the time Deus Ex sets in, they're deemed too expensive and their use is scrapped.

Still, if at all they're included, I think they will be very minor atmospheric elements and not really anything worth getting all hyped about.

[jamhaw]

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

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Also makes sense continuity-wise, by the time Deus Ex sets in, they're deemed too expensive and their use is scrapped.

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Unlikely. However I seem to recall reading a datacube where they said the military bots were as smart as they were allowed to be. Perhaps there was a robot uprising somewhere? Something like that could scare the rest of the world into suppressing the technology

[a house]

Originally Posted by LatwPIAT

"Some of these people are androids. Look at the way they walk."

The MIBs are psychotic, heh. Something to do with the pharmaceutical augmentation.

[K^2]

Originally Posted by MyImmortal

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Probably because robots are now obsolete and cyborgs have since replaced them?

Not quite. Cyborg doesn't replace a robot. Cyborg is still human, so trying to make a slave out of one can result in bad mojo. Psyche of a robot, on the other hand, can be fully controlled, making them into perfect servants. We don't need super-smart robots. Just ones smart enough to complete their tasks.

That said, there is really no point for a robot to look like a human. Exception would be robots used for erm... entertainment and espionage. I see no other point.

[GmanPro]

^^ Maybe not exactly like a human down to the smallest details, but the human body is a fairly versatile shape. So humanoid robots are likely I think for some things. Maybe millitary missions? Obviously a tank would be better for the open battlefield, but what about door to door combat? You'd need something smaller and with legs for mobility.

[Viktoria]

Originally Posted by K^2

Not quite. Cyborg doesn't replace a robot. Cyborg is still human, so trying to make a slave out of one can result in bad mojo. Psyche of a robot, on the other hand, can be fully controlled, making them into perfect servants. We don't need super-smart robots. Just ones smart enough to complete their tasks.

That said, there is really no point for a robot to look like a human. Exception would be robots used for erm... entertainment and espionage. I see no other point.

Yes, you are quite correct.

[Irate Iguana]

Originally Posted by K^2

I see no other point.

People feel more at easy talking to something that looks like them. If the robot has to serve the general public and interact with them, for instance in health care or as a greeter, the robot has to resemble a person. A welding robot as a greeter would unnerve most humans.

[Viktoria]

I really wouldn't mind what it looked like, so long as it was interesting/intelligent to talk to.

[GmanPro]

I want Bender style robots.

[Viktoria]

I love Bender, he's one of the coolest robots EVER.

[K^2]

Originally Posted by Irate Iguana

People feel more at easy talking to something that looks like them. If the robot has to serve the general public and interact with them, for instance in health care or as a greeter, the robot has to resemble a person. A welding robot as a greeter would unnerve most humans.

Resemble in general, yes, but it should be immediately apparent in from appearance, movement, and voice that you are dealing with a robot. People would get uneasy around robots that are too human-like.

[Irate Iguana]

Originally Posted by K^2

Resemble in general, yes, but it should be immediately apparent in from appearance, movement, and voice that you are dealing with a robot. People would get uneasy around robots that are too human-like.

True. However something like Bender would be pretty ideal. It looks like a human, but it doesn't look eerily human. You know you are talking to a robot, but it doesn't unnerve you.

[Viktoria]

Originally Posted by K^2

Resemble in general, yes, but it should be immediately apparent in from appearance, movement, and voice that you are dealing with a robot. People would get uneasy around robots that are too human-like.

If the technology is so amazing that they really are very human-like, then why would people feel uneasy around them? Humans wouldn't be able to tell the difference, would they? Quite frankly, I feel more uneasy around a pure human who was acting weird/suspicious... a human is more likely to hurt me, I guess.

[K^2]

In order to behave entirely like human, it has to think like human. If it thinks like a human, it doesn't make for a very good servant. Chance of rebellion, etc. A robot should live for its task. It should not have concerns about the meaning of its existence. If it performs its function, it should feel well. It is not how humans think or behave. So you'll have fundamental difference which will appear to layman observer as lack of "soul". And would you feel at ease next to something that looks, walks, and talks like a human, yet seems to be cold, dead, and soulless? No. You'd feel much better if it looks, moves, and talks like a clumsy pile of scrap metal.

[Viktoria]

Originally Posted by K^2

In order to behave entirely like human, it has to think like human. If it thinks like a human, it doesn't make for a very good servant. Chance of rebellion, etc. A robot should live for its task. It should not have concerns about the meaning of its existence. If it performs its function, it should feel well. It is not how humans think or behave. So you'll have fundamental difference which will appear to layman observer as lack of "soul". And would you feel at ease next to something that looks, walks, and talks like a human, yet seems to be cold, dead, and soulless? No. You'd feel much better if it looks, moves, and talks like a clumsy pile of scrap metal.

Good points there, thanks.
Hear what you say but I wouldn't actually feel uneasy. Let's face it, some humans are pretty cold, dead and soulless. Robots have an excuse... humans do not.
I'd still chat to my 'butler' robot if I had one. I'm sure he'll know the basics of pleasant conversation. Perhaps even talk to me about the current news of the morning over breakfast (he could get a fresh download every day).

[K^2]

Yeah, but if you had to chose, would he look entirely human, or more like a robot from iRobot or something similar? Essentially human structure but clearly artificial?

[Viktoria]

Originally Posted by K^2

Yeah, but if you had to chose, would he look entirely human, or more like a robot from iRobot or something similar? Essentially human structure but clearly artificial?

If I had a choice, I honestly wouldn't care whether he looked entirely human or more robot like. Seriously. But that's just my viewpoint on it.... I don't judge people by how they look, so I guess this attitude naturally follows suit.

[Blade_hunter]

I'm sure everyone want to see ED 209 from robocop the military bot from DX looks like ED 209