Magazines, books, datacubes, etc: In-game reading

[Jerion]

Originally Posted by El_Bel

Replace your useless tool with a HardOn3000(tm). You will never let her down again.

Now available for older ages as well. Grandma deserves a sex life too old man!

And yet...

[El_Bel]

Originally Posted by Kieranator

And yet...

and yet... what?

[Jerion]

Originally Posted by El_Bel

and yet... what?

That advertisement needs to go in DX3. Now.

[El_Bel]

Thanks man

[phlebas]

If there's going to be graffiti in game, I want to be able to make one myself, albeit on limited surfaces...

Now that I think about it, there should be an 'internet' within the game with some level of interactivity with the player.

[El_Bel]

Well if you want internet in the game, create some pages that could be used!! That way it will be easier for the developers to put them in a computer, if they want but dont have the time to put them in themselves. Thats what this thread is all about.

[GmanPro]

"A good library, worth it's weight in gold."

[LKB]

From the surface of the Sun Jules Welles reports;

Y’know, stuff happens. A lot of stuff happens. Like when you bite your tongue, and it turns out it’s a brick, or when you raise a chinchilla, then realize you’ve raised a chinchilla army. Or, when, just yesterday, I managed to find, after waking, that I had squeezed a 747 through my retina.

But back on topic.

I sit here, wondering how long it will take before my internet bills pile up to the point where they decide to pull the plug on my connection (though them taking the trouble to make a wire between earth and here is a compliment of the highest order), or whether I actually believe in Harvey Dent, or I just pretend to so that I can walk around hospitals wearing a nurses’ outfit, or if I hate Jack Thompson, or if I just hate his actions. It’s one or the other.

Anyway; Chinchilla armies. I wonder to this day if there is a single person that does not quake in their undergarments at the mere thought of such a monstrous gathering of these savage creatures.

In most countries, having a Chinchilla army is illegal, punishable by forty lashes, followed by two-hundred and nine years in solitary confinement, then followed immediately by death by toe, and failing that, death by props from the eighties, and failing that, death by black and white Paper Mache giant tarantula with R2-D2s head.

In the very few countries where Chinchilla armies are permissible, 46 years, nine days, and 2 seconds of experience in wrestling the Norwegian Rhino Bodybuilders League, all the while doing the rumba with a giraffe on a pole with a height of 17 metres and a diameter of 4 centimeters, whil holding the planet Mercury on ones index finger.

1772 people currently have license to raise a Chinchilla army.

Of those 1772 armies, 2 have been used. Immediately afterwards, 19 countries were wiped off the planet.

Aquiring a license to raise a single Chinchilla, sans reproductive orifi, requires the actual person to have been neutered both a minimum and maximum of 7 times, and have been shave thrice as a monkey-elephant-alien hybrid.

The only person in history to own a Chinchilla with reproductive orifi intact is John Malkovich.

Don’t support Chinchillas.

Jules Welles is a delusional sociopath who lives in a darkened basement in Africa, in a constant state of comatose, pumped full of morphine twice every hour on the hour, and is prone to violent outbursts toward copies of “The Odessa File”.
He also quite likes Simply Tea.

[arcanum]

Deus ex had loads of in-game reading,...and it made the game all the more interesting, but aside from the ambient music which was FREAKIN' AWSOME, there is little if any "interactive" audio(music) such as radios or phones, that would provide information,..(news broadcasts, live streams, anwsering machine's messages--like in F.E.A.R) they could serve the same purpose as the datacubes, newspaper articles or book extracts, only in a different media, so that the in-game reading wouldn't "get old", if thats even possible. I'm not saying that every other "bit of information" should be given as radio-news instead of read-ins, but one out of ten would be nice, you know, too add diversity.

[Yargo]

Originally Posted by arcanum

Deus ex had loads of in-game reading,...and it made the game all the more interesting, but aside from the ambient music which was FREAKIN' AWSOME, there is little if any "interactive" audio(music) such as radios or phones, that would provide information,..(news broadcasts, live streams, anwsering machine's messages--like in F.E.A.R) they could serve the same purpose as the datacubes, newspaper articles or book extracts, only in a different media, so that the in-game reading wouldn't "get old", if thats even possible. I'm not saying that every other "bit of information" should be given as radio-news instead of read-ins, but one out of ten would be nice, you know, too add diversity.

Radio would be cool as long isn't like the god-awful loop on fallout 3. The songs were cool up until the 100th time listening to it in the first 3hrs!

[GmanPro]

Meh... it was more annoying in FEAR than cool. I got tired of sitting there for 2 minutes listening to the damn radio or stupid recordings because I knew they weren't going to actually say anything useful. But I listened to them anyway, just in case.

I'd prefer to have the same info terminals like the ones in DX1. They really helped to add immersion. Especially when they talked about JC and what he was doing.

[jordan_a]

When I talked to the lady writer, I couldn't know anything about the story, but I remember her telling me something like "There will be lots of reading".

[i_is_a_moose]

As we all recall, throughout both DX games, books were frequently found in all the office spaces and living rooms, and they formed an interesting backdrop of added depth to the environment. I just started this thread just to see if anyone has cool ideas they'd like to see in faux-print in game, ever hopeful someone at EM would see this and add it to DX3 (fingers crossed).

My recommendation is Dylan Thomas. I think it would be awesome to be sneaking around in some office, and you see a book lying around. upon close inspection, you find it had "And Death Shall Have No Dominion", or "Do Not go Gentle into that Good Night" inside.

"They shall have stars at elbow and foot;
Though they go mad they shall be sane,
Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again;
Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion."

[InGroove2]

how about from Animal Farm

'the hand is the distinguishing mark of a man"

[i_is_a_moose]

Originally Posted by InGroove2

how about from Animal Farm

'the hand is the distinguishing mark of a man"

Excellent choice. I like the idea of having the text form a commentary of the situation. Upton Sinclair's The Jungle does now come to mind.

[spyhopping]

Jacobs shadow was a good addition, it had a nice style and offered a few hints of what DX could have read like if it had been a book.

[NK007]

Dante's Inferno?

[Jerion]

Bump for merger!

[hem dazon 90]

Originally Posted by SomaMech

Fantastic idea!
Interaction with newspapers, datacubes, books, emails etc was the part of Deus Ex I believe really made the game stand out from the rest and something I fear will be simplified once again (as it was in Invisible War) to cater for the less thorough console players.

im offended

[spyhopping]

^ I'm a console player half of the time because I can't afford a good gaming PC right now. Comments like that don't ever offend me because it is true- when compared to PC gamers, console gamers are more interested in button bashing and less deep games. Therefore console games are generally made to cater for these demands.

[i_is_a_moose]

Another symbolic text for use could also be "Rime of The Ancient Mariner" (I didn't misspell "rhyme" by the way, that's how it's spelt in the poem)

What I find similar between "Rime..." and Deus ex 3, judged purely from our story-related speculation, is in how the mariner kills the Albatross that is guiding his ship, and so the crew tie the albatross' body around his neck as a reminder of how he has doomed the crew. Likewise, if Adam Jensen were to somehow be involved in MJ12's rise to power, as per speculation, he is comparable to the mariner, unwittingly dooming the world to depressed 2052, and bleak 2072.

As I said, this is based purely on speculation in previous threads, but the association seems sound.

[Kaigypsy]

Hey I really like that idea of finding journals by the folks of DE1 like Jamie Reyes or even a young Walton Simons. Can we perhaps have our guy meet up with a young-ish, wet behind the ears still Alex Jacobson. I think he had a role that wasn't really spelled out in DE1 but you know he had done some pretty heavy stuff early on before UNATCO. Be nice to see him as he is just coming up as a supreme Hacker. I won't hold my breath though.
I don't remember hearing it mentioned but are we going to see towards the end of the DE3 or hear about the battle of the first

NSF group? I remember listening to the two homeless guys talking and one was an ex-member.

What happened in that incident?

Emails, data cubes, the books, people's conversations between each other about one thing or another... all captured my attention. Perhaps in his travels our guy could find bits and pieces of the Order's fragmented beginnings through the books mentioned by her holiness. Maybe even Beth DuClare planted that seed in her daughter's head or she left a data cube on how to creat a new world should the old one be destroyed through other's hands. I have a feeling that neither Nicolette or Chad had the forsight to create the WTO or the Order without someone pulling their strings in the beginning once the Collapse happened. DE3 could have the misgivings of some Illuminati members including some of the old guard like Beth who could have planned for along with Everette "just in case" incidents like the Collapse.

[Radius86]

I don't mind the idea of rented video games or even movies for that matter. Remember Paul Denton renting 'Blue Harvest' the shooting name for Star Wars?

[El_Bel]

Augmented Powerhouse was formed in 2021 when Derrick Littrell a 15 yo kid, after 3 months of his brother teaching him to play some old metallica song in his guitar he decided that he wanted to form a band to cover songs from his favorite bands. He than sweet talked David Hickman, a friend 2 years older than him to start playing drums again, after 4 years of not playing. Soon they decided that they needed more members. They have putted adds who were answered by the bassist Sean Knuttbraker and lead guitarist John Humster. The band recorded a few songs and had a little success at local concerts.

Their life changed when Derrick a night at the grocery store were he worked an armed robberer shot him in the shoulder. He lost to much of his blood and the doctors barely kept him alife. But his left hand died. The doctors installed an augmented arm. They programmed it to make all the stuff Derrick needed for his everyday life."Can we program it to play guitar?" The doctors informed him of the ARS augmentation reserch facility, a center where scientists tried to make augmentations work in new ways. After six months of research, Derrick got his new hand that could play guitar and ARS had the patend that made them rich.

When he got back, his band almost got disbanded. Derrick got them back together and he demonstrated what his new hand could do. The band started touring again but soon they understood where left behind in comparison with Derrick. Derrick himself got some problems with the rythm part. His right hand couldnt play as fast as the left. So the band took a trip to ARS to get their augmentations too. ARS has puted together the Band Series. Their songs got three times faster. They have putted out their first real album as Augmented Powerhouse in 2023 which started to get some major success. They toured for almost two years. When the long tour was over they had to write new songs. The process was harder than expected. It was in December of 2024 that Humster got his eyes and ears augmented. Those augmentations helped him by colored harmonically correct notes. New songs came very fast. In the next 2 years they released 3 albums and had 4 worldwide tours. The life of the band is so full that they have not seen or talked to their families for 8 years.

Waiting for critique. If you find out a spelling or grammar error point it out. Thanks.

[G-Machine]

Jacob's Shadow and The Man Who Was Thursday were awesome in DX1, especially Jacob's Shadow. The extracts were a great ironic parallel to the story. Are any book extracts going to be added into tDX3 for the player to find and read? What books does anyone want to see put into the new game, any ideas?