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    Quote Originally Posted by Lo View Post
    God noooooo!

    Karaoke ought to be out-lawed! There's nothing worse than listening to a bunch of no-hopers screeching like a car crash down a microphone.


    The song 'I will survive' is ubiquitous in karaoke circles and if I ever hear that song ever again I swear I'll sue somebody!
    Sorry to disappoint ya, cos A: I didn't sing "I will survive"
    and B: I'm actually pretty good (If I do say so myself) I'd be happy to make a recording as proof during the weekends


    Anyways, school started today, same old boring house keeping "wob wob"s and intro class. A girl from class asked me to lunch though totally random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLOWHARD View Post
    I think part of what I liked about it was that so much of it seemed different, and that's probably because I haven't seen a Dutch or Belgian movies or TV shows
    The plot was a standard police/killer action suspense plot, nothing new there.
    I think, aside from seeing something different than the usual US Hollywood movie, it was the actors, the dialog and different feeling. If this film had been made in the US with American writers and actors, it would have been just like every other action movie. Maybe it was just because of where it was made and because that's new to me.
    Yeah I think probably the setting and environment here might help change the view of things.

    I also really like seeing the hitman kill off the smug rich people I can't say I identified with him or even felt he was the good guy, but I did want to see the rich criminals get what they deserved
    hehe yeah

    @m, can you recommend any other Jan Decleir movie or movies? I see he's been in a lot of stuff!
    Only one I remember seeing is Priest Daens as we saw it maybe 2 or more times in school. I don't remember much of it though

    It's not a happy movie though it's about child labor, textile workers and stuff. Basicly how Flanders (the North and Dutch speaking part of Belgium) was in the 19th century. I stole this from a review on imdb:

    The film 'Daens' portrays the struggle of a courageous man to spread the gospel of Christ to impoverished and exploited textile workers in late 19th Century Belgium. His main enemies are the 'Godless' socialists who offer his flock a more earthly paradise and also his own Church hierarchy who stand fast with the capitalist class in opposing all attempts at social reform. Daens follows the dictates of conscience, founds his own Catholic People's Party and becomes a charismatic leader of the Flemish-speaking poor whose interests are largely ignored by the French-speaking Christian Democrats. This official Church-backed Catholic Party is dominated by capitalists who see religion as a means of social control and property-protection.

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    @m....what sort of budget do the Belgians have in the movie industry?

    I spent a great many years on the continent and most films I saw in say, Germany, were all Hollywood or British dubbed movies. But sometimes, the lower budget films are the best!

    I'd just be interested to know how many films you punch out over there. I notice that it's thanks to the likes of Brit actress Dame Judy Dench that has largely elevated our movie credibility in recent years. We've managed to get a bigger cash input and have punched out quite a few good'uns.

    It's all down to the budget I guess in some cases.

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    There's not really an industry of it here and not a lot of money for it either. The Alzheimer case was an exeption with a budget of appearantly 2,5 million €. Other movies here I'm sure are far under the million. Additionally in Belgium you have the North (Flanders) which speaks Dutch and the South ( Wallonia) who speak French so they both cater to they own audience which results in even a smaller market.

    I do believe that the Dardenne brothers from the south have been quite succesful, although I haven't seen any of their movies. I'm don't really know how many movies are punched out but I'm pretty sure it won't be more than 10. Probably less. And even then with the exeption of the Alzheimer case if I read about them it's nothing that really stands out regarding originality, plot and such to have a change abroad. Most of them I generally have no interest in watching.

    Also I'm very glad that we don't dub movies here, just subtitles which is much better in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @m View Post
    Also I'm very glad that we don't dub movies here, just subtitles which is much better in my opinion.
    I agree entirely. Dubbing movies takes the edge away.

    I've seen Downfall (a.k.a. Der Untergang) and Goodbye Lenin! which I think would be unwatchable if they were dubbed in, say, English.

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    Thanks for the info @m,

    Yes, I too prefer subs but sometimes it can be very distracting when the film is in, say, Japanese because there can be a lot of names posted up (As in Battle Royale), which are quite hard to acknowledge and grasp before the next line of text comes up.....or is that just me being a bit slow?

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    Thanks @m, I'll be on the lookout

    Dubbing isn't cool but I also feel subtitles take away from the experience. I want to watch the actors expressions and keep my eyes glued to the camera work and composition. You just can't give all your attention to the image and read the subtitles too There's as much information in the facial expressions as there is in the subtitles and you can see both fully at the same time But I do hate dubbed movies :P
    I don't think there's a really good solution other than learning the language of the movie good enough to listen too it.
    The best substitute is to see the movie more than once

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    the only belgium TV video i have seen is the famous paranoid by black sabbath.

    Subtitles, don't get me started

    the ones i hate even the more recent professional done ones is when they dub over japanse movies. The olders ones are a complete joke, 10 seconds out?
    but i prefer subtitles over foreign movies because i think overdubing ruins them in a way and cheese actor voices like their out of neighours, argh!

    dubbing if probably the worse thing invented, they always use the wrong voicing

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    Dubbing is horrible. But sometimes subtitles are too.

    For example, whenever I watch Korean dramas or mini-series, the English subtitles for simple 6 to 8 worded lines characters say are totally off ! Other times they're translated accurately but once in a while...... Keep in mind that the lines are translated by a professional but still it's probably because of the slight confusion using Korean phonetics to English alphabet. I don't know.

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    A friend of mine is really into Weather Woman from Japan. It's just too weird to not find interesting on some level; I can't even figure out what their intended audience is, soft-porn for children or children's movies for dirty old men
    Anyway, in watching it, once with him, and then playing it for another friend, I saw it once subtitles and dubbed. I noticed the dialog was REALLY different between the dubbed version and the subtitles. The subtitles were more like bad English translations and the dubbed dialog was changed to be more like English dialog. This makes a really strange movie EVEN stranger!!!!
    I've got a bunch of Cowboy Bebop episodes. I'll have to watch them with the subtitles. Cartoons are different since they're dubbed no matter what

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    BLOWHARD & others, talking of cartoon dubbing in the actual plot of a film as opposed to the film actually being dubbed or a cartoon per se, I am reminded of that initial scene from Mrs Doubtfire.

    Robin Williams' character Daniel Hillard is a voice-over actor for a cartoon production company. He is marrying up the dialogue to the cartoon before him until he sees this bird smoking and he ad libs the lines 'Oh no, *cough, splutter* my lungs are blackened..' etc!

    He promptly gets fired after being told 'Those lines aren't in the script', but he refuses to endorse a tweety bird smoking as it's a bad example for children. Just such a funny sketch!

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    And that movie always reminds me of what I believe was a deeper felt, and certainly the inspiration for Mrs Doubtfire, Tootsie
    I was a stand-up tomato: a juicy, sexy, beefsteak tomato. Nobody does vegetables like me. I did an evening of vegetables off-Broadway. I did the best tomato, the best cucumber... I did an endive salad that knocked the critics on their ass.
    hehehehehehehe
    And that reminds me a funny movie with another tomato, and with a voice over, High Heels And Lowlifes. It's a funny scene

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    Meh, English dubs are usually real terrible (for anime at least), they always pick the wrong voices for the wrong characters, and then end up not getting the wrong feeling/emotion across. What gets to me especially is when the English dubbing uses high pitches squeaky voice to do a character that had a mature voice in the original versions.

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    Just visited www.goranagar.com and saw Lara in a Spidey suit. Cool image site. Never thought I'd see that. Very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayLightX
    Meh, English dubs are usually real terrible (for anime at least)...
    Agreed. I much prefer the original soundtracks.


    Quote Originally Posted by DayLightX
    ...they always pick the wrong voices for the wrong characters...
    Then...they're the right voices...aren't they?

    Quote Originally Posted by DayLightX
    ...and then end up not getting the wrong feeling/emotion across.
    Then...that's the right feeling/emotion...isn't it?

    Double-negatives are great!

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    Ready for a subject change?
    Feast or famine
    I lost my really cool full time freelance job, of almost 12 years, early this spring. Getting any good freelance art jobs that I'm suited too has been pretty hard. Lots of leads but nothing really great. I got a sporadic contact a few months ago. They don't pay very well and it's on-site rather than at home and I don't really like the work. Of course I have to take what I can get
    I had a really great interview that promised to lead to regular work 2 weeks ago but no work was forthcoming...until last week. Last week I had a few days from the place I don't like working at and they want me back most of next week. The same day I get the first of sounds like endless work from the interview. It's work at home an pays double the amount of the place I don't like. There will be a job next week from them too. Now I'm getting calls from both people but I have to turn down work
    How sucky is that? Why can't they space it out so I can do both jobs
    Where was this work earlier this year

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    Question, why must we wait 60secs between posting?

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    I think it is to help tone down spammers.

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    or...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Bouncer View Post
    I think it is to help tone down spammers.
    Or maybe the bandwidth cant take too many messages at once.
    Overall when i'm posting i have had the 60 second notice about 40 times, when i went post crazy back in June-ish time, now i never get the sign.
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    Spammer control usually. it's totally annoying on IMDb because you have to wait 90 seconds before posting again but I can appreciate why they do it on there because there are trolls very active on many boards. Pain in the 'arris

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    [QUOTE=Lo;700697]Spammer control usually. it's totally annoying on IMDb because you have to wait 90 seconds before posting again but I can appreciate why they do it on there because there are trolls very active on many boards. Pain in the 'arris [/QUOTE

    Arris?? they're terrible for it on you tube spammers should be hunted down and castrated in my opinion
    "A kind of evolution on steroids then?"

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    arris lol
    I am actually reporting now from the school computers, long live eidos.

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    You Tube needs to be more heavily monitored me finks. All these happy slappers posting their vile mobile phone recordings and getting away with it

    It seems that nobody is safe anymore. Anyone can record you doing whatever and post it on the net I need to hire Captain Mazda's covert protection!!

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    It really does need supervising, but i found a video where an innocent gets his revenge.
    Basically the people are walking along and they walks past the happy slappers, one of them turns and hits his girlfriend, the innocent man is actually a boxer so both the guy who hit his girlfriend and the happy slappers friend get pwned, seriously pwned!
    Go onto youtube and type, happy slapper gets owned, then go to one of the first links and it shows the happy slappers gettin owned!!
    A great video, take that happy slappers!

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