What's wrong with atlantic theater?

[Admiral Biilly-o]

Ok i've put enough posts on this so i'm making a thread. I would personally LOVE to see some of the atlantic battles & ships, such as the Prinz Eugen and the Bismarck. Just because its Battlestations:MIDWAY doesn't mean that there can't be any of the british's OWN fleet and then Kreigsmarine. I would also like to see some of the U-Boats as well. I'm trying to see how many people want the same as I. Post on here if you do and hope to see you online. (All of these on multi-player maps)

[Asterothe]

I guess if this game succeeds the sequel will be
BS: an Atlantic battle. But it's too early for that. Also it's
too much for a downloable content. It might be an expension
pack though.

[Vindicator]

I agree .. I would LOVE to see it. But its just to much at the moment. They have to worry about just fixing the game they made. If anything I would just throw the ships in for a Skirmish game, or a custom campaign editor. But they are not going to do that , they are going to save those for Battlestations Europe. If anything, i think the more realistic option , if anything, would be for them to finish up the war in the pacific. Add the ships and battles that came later in the War in the Pacific.

[andy3536]

I personally prefer the carrier v carrier battles that were only part of the pacific. but i suppose for a single missions in downloadable content would be good. such as sink the bismark and mabee taranto.

[NFbabs]

I think sink the bismarck would be rather boring mission. Maybe a naval challenge: survive with the bismarck (and eugen) would be more fun.

I think the more interesting missions would be Operation Cerberus and the operations in the area northern of Norway (commerce raiding with gneisenau. Duke of York). Invasion of norway would be cool too.

And also cool where indeed the battles in the mediterrenian. Like taranto and their the english italian naval battles. They would be more interesting since both sides have a more diverse force (cruisers, BB, airfields, carriers etc.)

Some other options:
Commerce raiding with the Graf Spee/scheer
Battle of River plate
Penetration of Scapa Flow (uboat mission)
Operation Weserubung (norwegian campaign)
Atlantic Uboat missions (wolfpacks anyone) (or closer to home in combination with FW-200 Condors)
Air assault at dunkirk (luftwaffe intercepting UK destroyers and ferries)
Operation Berlin (scharnhorst and gneisenou on commerce raiding)
Operation Rheinubung (bis and eugen commerce raiding)
Operation Cerburus (channel dash)
Battle of Barents Sea
Battle of North Cape (Scharnhorst vs Duke of York)
Operation Stonewall

Italian:
Battle of Calabria (should be a very fine multiplyaer mission :P)
Battle of Cape Spade
Air attack on Taranto
Battle of Cape Spartivento (another fine massive multiplayer mission)
Battle of Cape Matapan
Battle of Cape Bon
First Battle of Sirte (bit unbalanced :P)
Second battle of Sirte (DD spam)

[Amit9821]

i think the reason the devs made this game within the pacific theatre was to get away from all the typical WWII european action. i was tired of just seeing all these games that are focused solely on Europe, thats the reason i like this game more than anyother WWII game

[chillzatl]

Originally Posted by Amit9821

i think the reason the devs made this game within the pacific theatre was to get away from all the typical WWII european action. i was tired of just seeing all these games that are focused solely on Europe, thats the reason i like this game more than anyother WWII game

I wish they'd just finished what they started. The game is loads of fun, but there's just not enough of it there. I feel like I paid $60 for $40 worth of content. It's not like it would have taken much on their part to double or triple the number of SP missions. In fact it would have been quite easy.

[hoom]

I was going to say that the European theatre doesn't really have big enough engagements but NFbabs' selection would make for pretty good missions
People tend to forget about the Italian battles...

I would particularly be interested in playing the Battle of the River Plate

[Admiral Biilly-o]

Don't forget the italians. FORMAGGIO! There should be an expansion pack i agree to an atlantic theater, a sequel is just too long to wait for.

[Kai Robin]

Originally Posted by NFbabs

Some other options:
Commerce raiding with the Graf Spee/scheer
Battle of River plate
Penetration of Scapa Flow (uboat mission)
Operation Weserubung (norwegian campaign)
Atlantic Uboat missions (wolfpacks anyone) (or closer to home in combination with FW-200 Condors)
Air assault at dunkirk (luftwaffe intercepting UK destroyers and ferries)
Operation Berlin (scharnhorst and gneisenou on commerce raiding)
Operation Rheinubung (bis and eugen commerce raiding)
Operation Cerburus (channel dash)
Battle of Barents Sea
Battle of North Cape (Scharnhorst vs Duke of York)
Operation Stonewall

Italian:
Battle of Calabria (should be a very fine multiplyaer mission :P)
Battle of Cape Spade
Air attack on Taranto
Battle of Cape Spartivento (another fine massive multiplayer mission)
Battle of Cape Matapan
Battle of Cape Bon
First Battle of Sirte (bit unbalanced :P)
Second battle of Sirte (DD spam)

THANK YOU! I've done some studying on the naval war in the pacific but I had no idea the Atlantic side had so much action, as all I had been exposed to was the typical convoy-subs pitch of it. I've spent the last hour looking up alot of these battles on wikipedia lol.

[andy3536]

Originally Posted by hoom

I was going to say that the European theatre doesn't really have big enough engagements but NFbabs' selection would make for pretty good missions
People tend to forget about the Italian battles...

I would particularly be interested in playing the Battle of the River Plate

That is probobly as the italians were poorly trained and used antiuque equipment, so didn't really make a big impression. All they had was a modern navy the best of which was lost at taranto.

[NFbabs]

Originally Posted by andy3536

That is probobly as the italians were poorly trained and used antiuque equipment, so didn't really make a big impression. All they had was a modern navy the best of which was lost at taranto.

The italians mainly lost the war in the mediteranean due to poor decisions, a fear of loosing units and unsufficient aircover. Hoowever for a BSM game these would still remain fairly interesting. I mean, look what they did to the battle of surigao strait (apart from replacing the american BBs by british) the mission is interesting altough in real life it was completely one-sided.

By adding similar "creativity" I think a lot of the Atlantic theathre could be made very interesting.

Another cool hypothetical battle would be a postponed operation rheinubung. That is if the Bismarck waited for the Tirpitz to be fully trained and the Graf Spee be completed. This would certainly be a main problem for the british's since they had all split forces (atlantic, south pacific, mediterreanian).

Same goes for the barents sea convoy raiding. If Hitler just didnt order Donitz to keep his ships at bay, after they loss of the Gneisenau (such a waste of the tirpitz... being in fjord whole life).. Dang, the man practically suicided his whole Center Group (600,000+ soldiers) in the russian campaign was too afraid too loose a few ships. The japanese certainly would knew what to do given such a situation :P and they stood even less change!!!

babs out!

[Liberaror45]

I think that if a sequel was made covering the WHOLE war, both theaters, 1939-1945, I would definitely buy it, maybe for more than the usual $60 if that was what the price was for it.

Heck if they made a game that had every aspect of the war, Planes, tanks, infantry, ships, subs, prisoners of war (like the Great Escape game, but with better graphics)....etc, that would be wicked awesome. I know this would probably be WAY too much to ask for, but if it was a good quality WWII game, especially if it was on xbox live, i would pay $100 for it.

[Cpt.sharp]

i hope they do an Atlantic ver.
what i hope will happen is...

Battlestations midway the wars end (diffrent tittle) were its just an add on to midway that adds more units and campain.

after that is done i hope for

battlestations 2
Atlantic and Med

if not just Battlestations 2

but this will be years away.

[Admiral Biilly-o]

why wait for a sequel? Do what halo did, make an expansion disk

[ADM Maniac]

Hello,

Im in complete agreement with you Biilly....Id like to Experiance " Sink the Bismarck ".....Or chasing the Graf Spee....or Doing Norweigan Fjord assaults , sinking the Tirpitz....The Black Pit...either as the Destroyer escorts or the Uboats...hell I could think of some fun scenerios.......The Invasion of Crete....mmm?....Malta...Etc....So many battles, only so many programmers....lol..

ADM Maniac

[colonelklink]

they could also create some maps on the british attack on the french fleet
it would definately be a different battle since most people dont know that the french got attacked by the brits at one point

[Lonewolfpj]

Originally Posted by colonelklink

they could also create some maps on the british attack on the french fleet
it would definately be a different battle since most people dont know that the french got attacked by the brits at one point

I would hate to be the frnch on that map it wasnt really a fair fight.

[Kai Robin]

I for one would love the play the Littorio class BB's. The Vittorio Veneto was a beautiful warship I would love top play. It wasn't nearly the best steel castle, but who wouldn't want to use the Ferrari of Battleships? Sleek, gorgeous, and Italian, yup, that's what I love about the Veneto.

[hoom]

The japanese certainly would knew what to do given such a situation

You mean like how they kept the Yamato & Musashi in harbour for most of the war because they lacked fuel, escorts & manpower

[ADM Maniac]

I believe that the raid on the Admiral Dalahan's french Fleet at Anchor would be a great mission...definitely would learn your gunnery skills....The Taranto Raid on the Italian fleet by the Ark Royal would be kick ass to...especially if you could use those cumbersome Broadsword biplanes.....would be a challenge....And did anyone think of the Hunt for the " Secret Raiders " ( German Raiders disguised as Merchant ships)....The Raids of the Uboats on the east coast of the US during Operation Drumroll ( Pakenschlauf ) would be great....So many Ideas....A personal Dream of mine is the whole " The Enemy Below " scenerio...I loved that Movie.....

ADM Maniac

[Kai Robin]

Originally Posted by ADM Maniac

I believe that the raid on the Admiral Dalahan's french Fleet at Anchor would be a great mission...definitely would learn your gunnery skills....

Lol, good choice. To describe the French Fleet in WWII as pathetic would be a compliment. Given the option of joining the allies or scuttling their ships to prevent use by the germans, the French essentially gave Britian the finger upon whence they got their asses handed to them on a silver platter, aka their modern fleet was wiped out. Eventually they ended up scuttling the rest of their fleet elswhere, thus a modern navy was wiped off the face of the earth accomplishing NOTHING! Oh yeah, I forgot, their was like two amphibious assaults they gave supporting fire, Whoopee French fleet.

Yup, I'd say pathetic was complement.

[Admiral Biilly-o]

Yes i would also LOVE to see some italian battles. Maybe title the expansion pack "Battlestations:Europe"?. I forgot all about the italian navy (for some odd reason) i think it would be a GREAT addition to this game. Another map like "Steel Monsters" only with new battleships would be great, only positioned a little farther apart so you could get into position. With the bismarck and all of the other battleships, even though it's not HISTORICALLY accurate, it would be a great addition. I sent a message to a man who knows some of the producers and they're taking into considerations this thread good job guys. If any of you want to add me on xbox live my gamertag is Admiral Billy O (yea kind of a lame name) but i also have LiT RamSeS

[skandalf]

Originally Posted by chillzatl

I wish they'd just finished what they started. The game is loads of fun, but there's just not enough of it there. I feel like I paid $60 for $40 worth of content. It's not like it would have taken much on their part to double or triple the number of SP missions. In fact it would have been quite easy.

u paid 60 dollars ???? man u were ripped off try n find a decent software retailer that doesnt put a huge mark up on it this game only cost me 17 quid best bargain ive had for a long time with this content

[colonelklink]

well in America it costs 60 bucks for the Xbox 360 version pretty much anywhere you go unless they are having a sale