What's Wrong With This Tunnel?

[Nikeon]

Hi everyone.

I just reached the

secret tunnel in Auldale, leading to the museum, but after climbing down the small hole, (the one with the grate on top), and going towards the smaller passageway down there, it seems I cannot get Garrett to pass through it, he can only go a very small way, before he stops.

Are you supposed to get through there at all, I mean, I read the note in the chest, which was left by Ma Graham, to say that the tunnel has to be used after dark, when the day shift ends e.t.c
I wonder if this is the correct time to go down there, when the tunnel can then be entered, or some such. I just don't have a clue right now though.
But I find it quite difficult to determine the right time, after the day shift.

I also read the other note left on top of a crate too.
Ma Graham says that they have the tunnel dug real good.....
yep!..... so good that Garrett cannot fit through it, so again.....
maybe later on?

Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks.

[Clumsyorchid]

Sounds like it's not quite time for you to enter the tunnel yet. You'll be able to access the area with the regular glyph entrance when the time is right. What is your current objective?

[Nikeon]

Hi there.

Thanks for the reply.

I managed to get this sorted, after all that.
I was on the Gamall's Lair/House/Mansion mission, and I went to have a look at that secret museum tunnel before that, wondering why I still could not get in.

I have finally obtained the objcetive to get into the museum,

and seeing the Glyph on the enterance to the tunnel.

Thanks a lot for the help! I hope I didn't waste too much of your time.

My regards.....

[bravus]

This is one instance in which I think the game could have been better written - there's no indication anywhere that this is not the glitch it looks like. How hard would it have been to add a grating across the tunnel and a note that it's not time yet? Instead, thief players, accustomed to being able to range freely, get incredibly frustrated at this 'bug' that's stopping them from robbing the museum blind!

[Clumsyorchid]

It's not a big deal, and is easily explained. People who get stuck will check their objectives. It's not such a big deal because no one gets permanently stuck, and going into the tunnel doesn't break anything. Just my opinion on the matter.

[theBlackman]

If a player "Finds" a passage or other, such as this tunnel, by being explorative, or brave, then there should be an indicator that tells them that it is NOT TIME, or that they need to do something else first.

I spent 30 minutes trying to pass the area. I REINSTALLED THE GAME thinking it was broken.

Traps like this are very poor design, unfair to the player, and show a lack of consideration for the player and give the impression that it is a major bug, or that the game did not install properly.


Bad scene all around. And this is not the only major fault in the game.

Checking your objectives tells you nothing. It tells you what you MUST DO, but does not say "You cannot go into XXX at this time, come back after you XYZ."

A player, unlike the man who made the game, does not know that certain events must be sequenced to function. As I said, bad thinking and design.

[Autolycus]

I also found the tunnel before it had the glyph.
It seemed strange that the note and supplies were
down there and an invisible wall was blocking me.

I didn't go to the extreme of re-installing though.
Just went and looked around the city for something
else to do.

The one or two doors in the game that would
shake but not open confused me also. I kept
trying to pull out my sword and smash them
down...

[MisterT]

Yeah, I think they needed some Garret voice acting in these situations like at the

pump house. He could have gone something like: "These vines are in the way and they don't seem natural. Maybe the pagans had something to do with this" And if you tried to hack or burn your way through a fast regrowth effect with another voice acting from Garret could indicate that it's not the right moment for this.

[theBlackman]

Originally posted by MisterT
Yeah, I think they needed some Garret voice acting in these situations like at the

pump house. He could have gone something like: "These vines are in the way and they don't seem natural. Maybe the pagans had something to do with this" And if you tried to hack or burn your way through a fast regrowth effect with another voice acting from Garret could indicate that it's not the right moment for this.

I think the note on the door says that DAYAN had blocked it, but then I'll need to check.

There is a note to the right of the door frame on the wall.

[MisterT]

If I remember correctly, the note appeared only after visiting

Gamall's Lair

[Nikeon]

One of the things which REALLY confused me about that passageway, (before you were allowed to enter it by way of the glyph symbol, which I later found out) is that when you looked in the chest close by, there were a couple of Explosive Mines in there, so I instantly thought RIGHT.......
well how else is one to enter such a small tunnel, (giving the appearence of a mine entryway, but smaller) apart from to blow it up?
So thinking the Explosive Mines in the chest were a clue, I started placing mines down, (right near, and just under the front of the passageway) and shooting them with my arrows to set them off.
But of course...... nothing happened...... did it??

[Nikeon]

Originally posted by MisterT
If I remember correctly, the note appeared only after visiting

Gamall's Lair

Exactly! So this was another part of the game, where I think the creators could have done something better with.
At least give some kind of a clue beforehand, instead of letting us players keep pulling, and bashing away at the door, wondering why it won't open at this stage.


Ahh well.... I don't really have any bad opinions about the game, apart from the fact that it's very entertaining, very good story/plotlines e.t.c and certainly, very enjoyable!

[NCIceman]

I ran into this same issue, and I agree, I should not have been allowed to this spot at all. Furthermore, the civilians holding their conversation about the "secret museum entrance" should not have gone through their speech in front of me either at this point during my first slink through Aud.

The best way of handling this is probably the same thing as when you try to leave a mission before completing all objectives, with a voice line from Garrett saying he's got more important things to do or something like that.

[MisterT]

Originally posted by MisterT
If I remember correctly, the note appeared only after visiting

Gamall's Lair

I would like to correct myself here since if this were true, the game would be imposible to finish.
The note only appears after doing the cradle, returning

Lauryl's blood to her grave

and then visiting

what's left of the keepers