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Old 09-09-2004, 02:47 AM
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You cannot compare a special force unit of a military branch to an entire branch... What about Marine Special ops? they are just as good as rangers. The marines have a variety of special forces (I.E. Amphibious)
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Old 09-09-2004, 09:11 AM
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What the hell are you guys on? The only real marines are the Royal Marine Commando's of Her Magesties Armed Forces. They have the longest basic infantry training course in the world and they are much older than their yank counterparts. They would, could and have beatten U.S Marines in marksmanship, physical and mental compitions. There were no U.S marines on the Normandy beach's on D-Day, only U.S Navy beach parties. They were the one's who cleared the beach obsticles on the U.S beach's. If the yanks used the same tactics as the British did in Malaya "Hearts and Minds" and didn't have the typical "We're better than you and you know it!" attitude then there would have been far less dead.
By the way the Austrailians and New Zealanders pulled off better operations in Vietnam and suffered far less causulties during their stindt ('65-'72). I wounder why that was?
Anyway the S. A. S are far, far better than any of the U.S "Special Forces".
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Old 09-09-2004, 09:25 AM
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Yeah, I must admit the Austrailians did a hell of a job working with the Corps...But if you've seen the history channel they had a special about the Marine Corps Marksman...Hell them guys knew how to shoot very well with any rifle...
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:31 AM
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haha british marines are better? haha jeese h/o...... ok thanks i had to laugh at not only your studpid minded post but your name as well... DUCKY?.... You must be kidding me about British marines being better. I love retarted people who post here..... U.S.M.C. is far more advanced, equiped and trained... there might not have been any marine fighters on the beaches of normandy but were there any british soldiers in JAPAN? no there were not... And only the U.S.M.C. could have accomplished that as well as they did. NAVY ING SEALS would make S.A.S thier pants. I just dont understand why you would say that.....Maybe if you knew a thing about Vietnam or two then we can debate on vietnam.... but for now shut the hell up and go have some tea and trumpets...

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Old 09-09-2004, 12:51 PM
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haha british marines are better? haha jeese h/o...... ok thanks i had to laugh at not only your studpid minded post but your name as well... DUCKY?.... You must be kidding me about British marines being better. I love retarted people who post here..... U.S.M.C. is far more advanced, equiped and trained... there might not have been any marine fighters on the beaches of normandy but were there any british soldiers in JAPAN? no there were not... And only the U.S.M.C. could have accomplished that as well as they did. NAVY ING SEALS would make S.A.S thier pants. I just dont understand why you would say that.....Maybe if you knew a thing about Vietnam or two then we can debate on vietnam.... but for now shut the hell up and go have some tea and trumpets...
Well, if it wasn't for deserter's from the Royal Marines in the early 18th centuary then there would be no U.S.M.C! The British army in the far east was fighting the jap's for longer than your precious corps. And after all the Allies only set foot on Japan its-self because the japs surrendered beforehand. Hell if it wasn't for us you would be bloody spanish! Don't worry we've had our own "Vietnam". It was in 1899 against the Boars, decendents of Dutch settler's to South Africa. Did you know that the U.S.M.C is actually larger than the British Army. And don't call me a retard, any one who believes that because thave got all the best kit doesn't mean they are the "BEST" must be! What i have seen of the Navy Seals is that they are probably the worst Special Forces units that have ever existed. I have to say i might have been a bit too sceptical of the U.S.M.C. Why don' tyou go and shut the hell up and go and defend and worship youre flawed constitution!
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:06 PM
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HAhA the NAVY SEALS are the worst Spec Ops ever... now i know for a fact you are retarted... USMC is the smallest part of the U.S. Military but yet it is bigger than britains army?
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:15 PM
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but for now shut the hell up and go have some tea and trumpets...
No need for rudeness, we can all discuss this stuff without resorting to petty namecalling.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:17 PM
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sorry Clumsy.... its just Ducky is being stupid.......haha NAVY SEALS worst spec ops that ever existed..... wow
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:20 PM
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its just Ducky is being stupid
Your reading comprehension could use some work.

Be respectful, everyone has an opinion, and often times, it'll be different from your own.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:24 PM
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Your reading comprehension could use some work.

Be respectful, everyone has an opinion, and often times, it'll be different from your own.
well now you are insulting me....???... well im sorry i forgot since your a moderator you dont make typing mistakes... Well only 5 more days.....

p.s. i dont like clumsy anymore
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:36 PM
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You cannot compare a special force unit of a military branch to an entire branch... What about Marine Special ops? they are just as good as rangers. The marines have a variety of special forces (I.E. Amphibious)
they have 2. Maritime Special Purpose Forces and Force Recon. yea and i havent heard of a spec ops team called amphibious. if you mean amphibious missions, all spec ops teams are trained for amphibious missions.

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Old 09-09-2004, 02:42 PM
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Well, if it wasn't for deserter's from the Royal Marines in the early 18th centuary then there would be no U.S.M.C! The British army in the far east was fighting the jap's for longer than your precious corps. And after all the Allies only set foot on Japan its-self because the japs surrendered beforehand. Hell if it wasn't for us you would be bloody spanish! Don't worry we've had our own "Vietnam". It was in 1899 against the Boars, decendents of Dutch settler's to South Africa. Did you know that the U.S.M.C is actually larger than the British Army. And don't call me a retard, any one who believes that because thave got all the best kit doesn't mean they are the "BEST" must be! What i have seen of the Navy Seals is that they are probably the worst Special Forces units that have ever existed. I have to say i might have been a bit too sceptical of the U.S.M.C. Why don' tyou go and shut the hell up and go and defend and worship youre flawed constitution!
your pretty stupid to think SEALs are the worst. maybe you were watching footage of the SAS not SEALs. and how you got hold of these tapes is beyond me. maybe james bond down from MI6 got it for ya. yea anywho SEALs are the best. end of story.
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:42 PM
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well now you are insulting me....???... well im sorry i forgot since your a moderator you dont make typing mistakes... Well only 5 more days.....

p.s. i dont like clumsy anymore
Why are you always calling everybody names. Always cursing around? You think you are really something don't you? You think you know everything and are really tough don't you?

And why shouldn't he insult you? You insult everybody else. What comes around goes around.
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:49 PM
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Just to clarify, it was not an insult. You blatantly disregarded my previous post.
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Old 09-09-2004, 05:59 PM
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Well, if it wasn't for deserter's from the Royal Marines in the early 18th centuary then there would be no U.S.M.C! The British army in the far east was fighting the jap's for longer than your precious corps. And after all the Allies only set foot on Japan its-self because the japs surrendered beforehand. Hell if it wasn't for us you would be bloody spanish! Don't worry we've had our own "Vietnam". It was in 1899 against the Boars, decendents of Dutch settler's to South Africa. Did you know that the U.S.M.C is actually larger than the British Army. And don't call me a retard, any one who believes that because thave got all the best kit doesn't mean they are the "BEST" must be! What i have seen of the Navy Seals is that they are probably the worst Special Forces units that have ever existed. I have to say i might have been a bit too sceptical of the U.S.M.C. Why don' tyou go and shut the hell up and go and defend and worship youre flawed constitution!
sorry to burst your bubble ol chap, but the US military is bigger, more advanced, trained better, and well... just better than the british militarily.
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Old 09-09-2004, 06:21 PM
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good point hitman and i didnt blatanly disregaurd what you said Clumsy... its not like im the only who curses or calls people names.... and hobbit i dont make fun of everyone... just you cause i dont like you.... you came into the forum with an anti yank attitude... so i was defending my country from all you whinin european *es who want to be american..... Why cant we all just get along....
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Old 09-09-2004, 06:22 PM
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This is not up for discussion. I won't give another warning.
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Old 09-09-2004, 06:25 PM
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whats not up for discussion..... the fact that im the only one being warned when there are tons of other post 10X worse than mine?? im just curious i dont intend to be a wise *** right now

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Old 09-09-2004, 07:32 PM
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This is not up for discussion. I won't give another warning.
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Old 09-09-2004, 10:37 PM
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i'd never thought i'd see the day...where this forum turned into a Gamespot forum..full of arguments,name calling, banishments, topic close downs....*sigh*...this used to be a friendly place where we would put in ideas,tell each other things about the game,post up new videos, ask mods and that sort of stuff...now...its flame zone..lol oh well dudes
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Old 09-10-2004, 12:40 AM
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good point hitman and i didnt blatanly disregaurd what you said Clumsy... its not like im the only who curses or calls people names.... and hobbit i dont make fun of everyone... just you cause i dont like you.... you came into the forum with an anti yank attitude... so i was defending my country from all you whinin european *es who want to be american..... Why cant we all just get along....
Well I am sorry if you thought I have an anti yank attitude. I don't have an anti yank attitude. I was just not saying it was the best nation with the best people that never made mistakes, like you. I still like the US, but I don't think that the country is perfect. Its political views for instance are far from perfect.
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Old 09-10-2004, 02:25 AM
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Well I am sorry if you thought I have an anti yank attitude. I don't have an anti yank attitude. I was just not saying it was the best nation with the best people that never made mistakes, like you. I still like the US, but I don't think that the country is perfect. Its political views for instance are far from perfect.
i know i never make mistakes, im perfect.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:25 AM
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Look, I apoligise for my remarks but don't think because the U.S Armed forces are so huge that they can do every thing. Even the smallest forces can be the best. The S.A.S. were formed in 1940-41 and are one of the most respected units in the world. In Afganistan a platoon of U.S soldiers were pinned down by a small group of Afgan fighters. An S.A.S. patrol out flanked the Afgan's and wiped them out. So what do u think of that.
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:33 AM
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youre right. were allies in the real world.... so lets be allies in the forum. US and BRITAIN = BEST FRIENDS FOREVER!!
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Old 09-10-2004, 12:52 PM
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Ducky - Rattled a few cages there mate!

Hitman - Agreed

Everyone else - GO AND SERVE! - There is a recruitment centre near YOU! or STFU

or at least

Get out from in front of your computers and read Gen. Colin Powell's book (amazon, 14.95) particularly the section on Vietnam where he ADMITS albeit through gritted teeth, that US forces in Vietnam were, er, CRAP! (all the gear. but no idea!) - I would suggest that
(just as an aside) you Google on 'operation success navy seals' then try 'operation success sas' then try 'mass surrender italy us rangers'.

READ SOMETHING then get back to me.
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