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Someone on the IGN Boards posted this. Hopefully we can get some answers here? Thanks.
Eidos Puts Itself Up for Sale After Profits Alert Damian Reece, 06.18.04, 10:48 AM ET THE EXPLOITS of Lara Croft in her Tomb Raider adventures have not been enough to save the computer games publisher Eidos, which has put itself up for sale. After its shares slipped further yesterday, the company has a market value of pounds 156m. It has struggled in the computer games market, which is increasingly competitive. Rivals likely to show an interest in Eidos include Sony, Microsoft, Activision and Electronic Arts. Eidos said it had begun a review of its "strategic alternatives" and would be delaying the publication of ShellShock: Nam 67, its latest video game, until September. "The expected contribution from this rescheduled title will fall into the financial year ending on 30 June 2005 and consequently the company now expects to report a break-even-to-small loss for the financial year to 30 June 2004," it said. This is the second time that Eidos has warned on its profits in a matter of weeks. The company said last month that the sales performance of Hitman: Contracts had proved disappointing and would have a negative impact on profits. That announcement sent the shares crashing 35 per cent and the Eidos stock price continued its downtrend yesterday, finishing 3.4 per cent lower at 109.5p. The company said the problems besetting the Hitman title had not reversed and that it was caught in a computer games market where scale, diversity and financial strength were becoming ever more important. "In addition, there is the continuing need to invest more heavily in research and development ahead of the next hardware cycle", the company said. "These market trends and the changing competitive landscape mean that Eidos is becoming increasingly reliant on the performance of key titles." The company's board recognised the benefits of scale in reducing the exposure caused by these factors, it said, and had decided to pursue a strategic review to exploit fully the company's intellectual property and development capabilities. You can find the whole news here, but you need to pay to be able to read it.
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This is bad news...but hopefully this is untrue...yet the stastics and the precise numbers in this makes me think its true.....
If this is true it would really be a loss for all video gamers and especially us LOK fans..... ![]() Ps if this is true we can bid LOK goodbye I guess... ![]() ![]() Edit: I always considered Eidos to be the biggest industry in publishing video games..it would be a shame to lose this thought
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Well, if this is true... please dear God let Sony pick it up... I really don't want Microsoft to get it...
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Well, if this is true, activision would also be good because they had something to do with Blood Omen 1 If I remember correctly..
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Ok, anyone that can, please correct me if I am wrong in saying this, but if Eidos is sold, won't the new owner of Eidos still have the same compaines making games for it? Like, won't Crystal Dynamics still make games to be published by the new company? If this is true, then they will continue to use profitable titles and series, and I don't see any reason for worry. Sure, it would be sad if Eidos would go, but as long as our games are still made by the same company, thought published by a different one, it's not a total loss.
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It hasn't definatley been put up for sale, it is just Eidos isn't doing quite as well as it had hoped profits wise due to the drop in demand for games.
But it has issued a second profits warning, which I read, is effectively opening the market for companies to consider a takeover, but again, doesn't mean it is definately going to happen. Jeffers
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Well, a couple of days ago (June 17. 2004) Eidos Interactive did file a Form 6-K (a form for non U.S. securities issuers to make periodic reports) with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) pursuant to the Securities Exchange Act (Rules 13a-16 and 15d-16). I've extracted a copy from EDGAR and highlighted the relevant section so you may judge for yourselves:
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There was a discussion of this over at GameFAQs last week.
My (reluctant) feeling is that if Eidos is sold, it would pretty much be the end of the series as we know it. Publishers like EA are not interested in unique franchises, they are interested in selling whatever is most profitable at any given time. This is pretty sad, since EA in the 80s was the source of a bunch of great unique games like Wasteland. Potential buyers would probably be interested in the most high-market-value properties that Eidos owns, like Tomb Raider. I can't see any of them (with the possible exception of MS and Sony) taking a chance on another Kain game. If they did, I think it would be more along the lines of the rumoured Raziel in the modern era thing, where it's got familiar characters but doesn't fit with the story of the earlier games. |
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Oh GOD....this cannot be true
![]() But u know what, if this is still not surely going to happen then tomorrow,since I have some money, I'll buy Hitman: contracts and I'll see if I can find TR: AoD....I think if all the LOK fans bought some of the Eidos games even if they are not interested in..we can save Eidos...heck I think I'm gonna buy a spare copy of Defiance also..... Edit: yeah one more thing..if Eidos is sold does that mean that all those who work for Eidos will be changed or they will be working for the new company?
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I went like "..." when reading this. I seriously don't want this to happen.
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Best luck Eidos!! |
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But even Sony is not a fantastic choice. If Microsoft gains it, and decides to continue the LOK series (highly unlikely), it will no longer be available for PS2. You know they will keep it strictly for the XBox. (Possibly PC's too, but I doubt it.) And I'll be damned if I ever buy an XBox! Not even an LOK game can make me do it! The only thing that makes Sony a better choice is that if they continued the series, it would definitely be for PS2. BUT, that doesn't mean they'll make it a good game. Quote:
A good example is the Spyro series. Several years ago, Insomniac Games sold its successful cash baby to Sony. And Sony killed it. All Spyro games since then suck. Sony licensed it to Nintendo for GBA (why, I have no idea). Now look what they've done! The latest installment has Spyro and Crash Bandicoot in reversed roles. Talk about the stale death of once fine series! So what will this mean for Crystal D? We'll have to wait and see. But also, what will this mean for our forums?
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Once again the minority suffer for the commercial foder that is the mass market, if anyone has a general idea of games that are being released they will almost all fall into a select group of games.
We have the constantly reoccuring games such as FIFA and F1 almost every year, the third person free roaming adventure where you place some badass with airstrikes oohh. And an influx of war games eg WW2. I mean the big companys seem to just squeze out the competition such as EA although it makes one or two good games it seems to have bought most regions of the gaming market and can pour the resourses into it to make it brilliant. This could also be said about the music industry the taste of something new and exotic is embraced slightly before being rejected for more easily listenable to music. |
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Wow. Eidos on the block, huh? Well, if there's any comfort it's in the fact that the gaming industry is not exactly a hotbed of merger and aquisition (M&A) activity. Any company interested in Eidos would most likely be so only because of Tomb Raider, and that franchise has been squeezed pretty hard already. What we as fans can do is get behind Eidos and support them financially as best we can (I'm sure we all do anyway). The two profit warnings are for the same quarter, and while I haven't been keeping up with their earnings, one quarter of break-even to loss shouldn't slam any company as established as Eidos into the deep red (look at Gateway, for goodness' sake!).
BTW, Nerevar have you looked into getting a job with the NASD? Or maybe the SEC? Hassling companies on accounting practices could be right up your alley!
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i agree with u Omega on this |
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I think if all the LOK fans bought some of the Eidos games even if they are not interested in..we can save Eidos
So what are we going to do, spend hundreds of dollars everytime Eidos is in trouble? I don't have that kind of money to blow on Games that I won't play. If anything, the game designers will find a new publisher. Since Eidos didn't create LoK, they just publish it. As long as CD doesn't go down, your games are safe, and as long as a publisher picks it up, which I doubt would be a problem since CD has always been gold when it comes to games. Lastly, MS better not pick up the publishing rights. EA or Sony would be a MUCH better choice. And since Lara Croft was a BIG deal for Sony, chances are Sony would have a BIG interest in getting the rights, since Lara was to Sony what Sonic was to Sega and Mario was to NES, and whatever Atari had. |
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Hi,
I pray that this is not true, but if it is, I beg that the new owners will at least give us one more LoK game in the series, just to finish things up...but obviously I would like more, like all here! ![]() But I knew something was funny when I read this on Ananova back in January of this year... "Eidos shares slump following update – January 2004. Computer games maker Eidos says it is set to record lower-than-expected interim revenues because of the weak US dollar and poor sales of certain games. Shares in the London-based company slumped 8% after it said Commandos 3 and Legacy of Kain did not perform as well as expected during the six months to December 31. It said this, combined with US hardware sales falling short of market forecasts and the weak currency, meant revenues for the period would be modestly below market expectations. Despite the decline, Eidos said a strong release schedule for the second half would help it meet profit forecasts for the full year to June 30. The software group behind the Tomb Raider computer games series announced a return to profit last March after three years in the red. It had been dogged in previous years by game delays and weak titles, which caused it to start slashing costs in 2000. Eidos released 10 games during the first half of this financial year, including Backyard Wrestling: Don't Try This at Home, Deus Ex: Invisible War and Championship Manager: Season 03/04. Sales of these products were broadly in line with management expectations, with the exception of Commandos 3 and Legacy of Kain. Eidos said in a trading statement that operating profits for the period would be ahead of last year, although below some market expectations. A further six products are set to be released over the second half of the group's financial year, including Thief: Deadly Shadows, ShellShock: Nam '67 and the next sequel in the successful Hitman franchise, Hitman: Contracts. These releases are expected to lift sales for the company. The first sequel, Hitman: Silent Assassin, has now shipped in more than three million copies of the game. Analysts forecast pre-tax profits of £19 million for the year to June 30, compared to £17.3 million for the previous year." All the best, Lucie Last edited by lucinvampire; 06-29-2004 at 10:14 PM. |
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Jesus! No!
It can't be like that. I agree! It can't be Microsoft! |
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one more sign of the apocalypse. i swear if lok will be canceled i'll devote my life to bringing every game/book/movie series i hate into the ground.
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I think if all the LOK fans bought some of the Eidos games even if they are not interested in..we can save Eidos...heck I think I'm gonna buy a spare copy of Defiance also.....
Sorry, the only games I feel eidos does well is Legacy of Kain, sorry thats just my opinion and I wouldn't buy any other eidos game even if I was paid to. In fact I do believe Legacy of Kain would have alot better had it not been for eidos. As good as the story is, all the games were cut short and unfinished due to rushes by eidos, rushing CD to get finished, resulting in incomplete games like Soul Reaver and more aptly Soul Reaver 2 or glitchyness that was Blood Omen 2. I think there is a good market for LoK games and I'm sure there is a company that would love to take it up. We might not see a game for a bit longer unless they kept the CD branch together...to whatever company bought them out. But hey look at it this way, the next game was iffy anyways since Amy left..if another LoK game isn't made it could have been for the best. The only bad thing would be there not being any explaining of the Vorador Plot hole, which means Blood Omen 2 will need to be shunned as not a real LoK game. |
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I haven't really been interested in other Eidos titles, but this would be a perfect time to check them out.
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crap...
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Actually Temp, BO1 was a self temrinating story. Kain makes his choice and saves thew world, or rules over it. Closure.
But later on, someone asked Amy to write a sequel. It was never planned from the start, but they felt the story could be done. And then Amy wrote one. ALso, it was less of rushing that changed SR1's storyline, and more of technical difficulties if I remember correctly. CD and Amy had bigger ideas than were capable at the time. EDIT: Correction, if I remember correctly, they asked her if she thought she COULD write a sequel. She did. Last edited by DJpick; 07-01-2004 at 02:41 AM. |
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