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Old 04-20-2004, 06:19 PM
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Default A Newbie With A Few Questions...

...I just finished playing Defiance, it's an excellent game and I give Eidos kudos for another great LOK.

So here are a few newbie questions that have probably been asked before so sue me:


1) In Defiance there were plenty of references to SR1/SR2/BO1 yet not a single reference to any events that took place in BO2, did everything that happened with the Serefan Lord/Hylden Leader just a bad dream or am I missing something here???

2) Are there any other plans in the works for another LOK/SR game?? I am so addicted that I can't wait for another!

Thanks guys!
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Old 04-20-2004, 06:50 PM
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Hello and welcome to the forums.

1.) The reason BO2 is never mentioned is because it happens on an altered timeline, meaning that the events in Defiance where history is actually changed allow BO2 to happen. On the original timeline, BO2 would never happen but because all that has occured has, well, occured, it now will. Hopefully that makes sense.

2.) Another LoK game is underway but we know nothing aside from the fact that there is one coming.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:19 AM
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Default Defying act . . .

Aside from there being another Defiance, rumour has it that there could possibly more that just games focussing around Kain and Raziel. If things go well, there could be another game if not several in the LOK series. We can only keep our fingers cross that this holds true.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:43 AM
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i have a question and i need answers cause i want the game and i don't know what one i need

You Know
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
and theres a game called
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Quest for Melchiah

WTF is the difference???

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Old 04-21-2004, 12:50 AM
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Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Quest for Melchiah is the same but it is a special edition it dosent matter what one you get
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:54 AM
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Thanx man
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Old 04-21-2004, 09:19 AM
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Wait a minute. Look into that more carefully. I think that "Quest for Melchiah" is a demo version that only includes the first section of the game. Be very wary of anything Eidos markets as "special edition". It usually means "demo version" (Platinum and Gold are the ones that mean the game has bonuses, but there aren't any for Legacy of Kain).
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Old 04-21-2004, 10:11 AM
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I think that "Quest for Melchiah" is a demo version that only includes the first section of the game.
Indeed it is.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the support . I actually bought that one in the store years ago, before I knew what Legacy of Kain was. I got curious what the little * next to "special edition" was there for, so before I left the mall I peeled off the price sticker and saw the tiny little print saying it wasn't the full version, so I returned it immediately.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:58 AM
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ah yes Bo2 never happened the first time. but what happens the next defiance then. Those Hylden in Janos is gonna fight vs the young Kain. I guess something between it happens. whatever it`s gonna be old Kain won`t destroy it.

So what do you think next defiance is about?



Ehm when I think now. Kain can jump great distances and telekenesis he learns that in BO2.

SO UR WRONG!!! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:27 PM
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ah yes Bo2 never happened the first time. but what happens the next defiance then. Those Hylden in Janos is gonna fight vs the young Kain. I guess something between it happens. whatever it`s gonna be old Kain won`t destroy it.

So what do you think next defiance is about?



Ehm when I think now. Kain can jump great distances and telekenesis he learns that in BO2.

SO UR WRONG!!! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The events of BO2 were created by Kain saving Raziel from being absorbed by the Reaver in SR2. Defiance and BO2 are part of the same timeline.
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Old 04-21-2004, 03:11 PM
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so Quest for Melchiah is a lame* version of soul reaver so i betta just get the original...

*[edited by Admin for political correctness - no I don't like it either, but please give thought to what words you use when posting...some are not 'acceptable']
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:21 PM
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Cool, I've never seen the Admin edit something

Yes, Defiance is a timeline that leads to BO2, but at the same time is a result of SR2.

Although arguably, BO1 happens as it had before, so you could argue (along with the "time is basically immutable" explanation) that Defiance ALWAYS happens, since no change occured in BO1 (since BO2 and Defiance show us minor alterations are allowed).
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:01 AM
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Whoops my bad
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Old 04-22-2004, 06:55 AM
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The events of BO2 were created by Kain saving Raziel from being absorbed by the Reaver in SR2. Defiance and BO2 are part of the same timeline.
I don`t understand you. He can jump and use telekenesis that he learned in Bo2.

Or do you mean when he saved Raziel he magically got new memories and powers and his whole life history suddenly changed?
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Old 04-22-2004, 07:02 AM
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I don`t understand you. He can jump and use telekenesis that he learned in Bo2.

Or do you mean when he saved Raziel he magically got new memories and powers and his whole life history suddenly changed?
the new memorys r what kain did in bo2 as a result of savin raziel at the end of sr2
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Old 04-22-2004, 08:54 AM
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Kain got them in SR2 because 2000 some odd years before SR1, Kain lived through BO2. Kain of SR2 is Kain from BO2, 2000 some years later. So of course he had those powers.

Although interestingly enough, Kain always had TK.
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:50 AM
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He probably developed the TK naturally, but when the Sarafan Lord struck him down he lost it and had to see the Seer to get it back. So, before Blood Omen 2 was admitted into the timeline, he had TK. After the end of SR2 he had TK, lost it, and regained it. That seems to make the most sense to me.
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Old 04-22-2004, 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the support
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Old 04-22-2004, 08:41 PM
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From Uber Kain's perspective, he would never have lost it. He would have had it before he pulled the blade, and after. But in the perspective of his WHOLE vampiric life, yes, there was a time he didn't. But I don't think he would have lost it. I'm sure the Seer just strengthened it (much like Raziel's was stronger after reaving Turel).
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