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Old 11-20-2003, 01:22 PM
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I am an avid fan of the Legacy of Kain series. I have loved it since I first read about Blood Omen’s development in the pages of Electronic Gaming Monthly way back in 1995. It was one of the games being showcased, in development, for the then forthcoming Playstation 1. Blood Omen and Resident Evil are the reasons I preordered a Playstation 6 months before the release of the console.

Kain was an adult character for an adult audience that was tired of the cutsey plumbers. Kain was, and is, ruthless! The integrity of Kain’s character has been maintained throughout the series. I am very happy with how he is presented in Defiance. Crystal Dynamics went out of their way to bring back many things from the original game, such as many of the sound effects. It was very nostalgic and I loved it! To that end, I would like to put forward some thoughts on some things I’d really like to see in the next game. I will be brief in putting them forward. The rationale should be evident.

1) Allow Kain’s telekinetic powers to be augmentable with abilities from the first game like Flay, Spirit Wrack, Blood Gout, Font of Putrescence, and so on.

2) I’d like to see a return to the daytime and nighttime cycles.

3) I would like to see the two “forms” that Kain had in the original make a return, guise and werewolf. Both could add great elements to the game. Perhaps, to balance it, werewolf form would only be available during the full moon. One of my favorite scenes is when Vorador transforms into a werewolf to issue a beating to Malek!

4) And finally, a return of Control Mind, though I would hope that it will be implemented better than it was in Blood Omen 2.

These aspects of Kain in the first game contributed to his persona. They emphasized and amplified his viciousness. I will play the next game regardless; still I wanted to put out my sincere hopes for the next one.

As for the action, I wouldn’t change a thing from the Defiance fighting system other than the camera. That is, I hope that next time the cameras are placed and function more strategically.

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Old 03-03-2004, 10:59 AM
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Default things fans want in LOK 6

from touring around the site, ive that people want the following things for the next game.

1: clearer answers to LOK riddles
2: raziel
3: no static cameras
4: no invisible walls
5: more reaver stuff for kain
6: an open world to explore (a la SR1)

i also want more use of kain's mist form, for dash attacks, after images and such, not just phasing through gates and turning invisible(BO2). after all, Mist was kain's original dark gift, so it should be his most developed trait.
think there should be more elegance in kain's character, not animalistic like raziel, after all, he's a noble person, though he's an abomination.

someone also brought up multiple endings, but i don't like that idea.
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:25 PM
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oh i'll add one:
wanna see kain kill mobiues one more time
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:34 PM
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I want more humerous one-liners from Kain as it's the only thing that keeps me going. And how about more dialogue while Kain is walking from place to place and fighting, personally I think a little singing wouldn't go amiss
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:46 PM
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Everything omegafury said (maybe except for Raziel, his presence I think will just "cheapen" the story, IMO), plus more puzzles (a la SR1 and SR2, and maybe a few new ones), and additional useful non-plot related stuff to find, like the SR1 glyphs, with their own areas and own puzzles to be solved before they are obtained. New FMV's and Kain to be able to swim.
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:04 PM
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more Blood Omen 1 alike

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Old 03-03-2004, 05:08 PM
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I wouldn't mind to at least hear Raziel's voice, in cutscenes or something, or flashbacks.
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Old 03-03-2004, 05:11 PM
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oh yeah, different difficulty settings.
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:52 PM
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I know that vampires are weakened or die from water, but for the next game I would like to see Kain get the ability to swim at least. If anyone remembers in SR2 when Kain and Raziel are talking in front of Janos's home and its raining wouldn't that hurt Kain while he was there. And if anyone played pass this part in Defiance Kain says about water is dangerous to him because he would die well then why was he in the rain in SR2 hello rain is water. I guess they did not notice that part there and for one thing Kain is an ancient vampire wouldn't he surpass that weakness anyway. This is just my thoughts on this theory.
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Old 03-03-2004, 10:48 PM
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In BO, Kain got resistance to rain and snow but not large volumes of water.
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Old 03-04-2004, 07:27 PM
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Ok well I did not know that because that is the only one I do not have and wished I did except there is no place I can get it now. If anyone is wonder I'm talkingabout BO1. I am still puzzled though snow and rain is a form of water though and it can become volume ranges of those forms of water like heavy rain falls that could hurt him. I think at least he should get the ability to swim in the next game Raziel did in SR1 why not Kain what he has to go to places that he has to reach without climbing.
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Old 03-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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A CG sequence would be wonderful!
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Old 03-04-2004, 10:54 PM
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I think the most important question to be dealt with in the next game is concerning Raziel. How/Why was he trasnformed into a soul devouring entity? Did he actually die in the abyss or did he undergo a metamorphosis due to his containing a portion of Kains soul (hence why he is immortal. Maybe its because the portion of Kains soul he possesses allows him to roam both worlds, while the vampiric nature of the soul requires him to devour souls to sustain physical form)? OR was he truly a creation of the Elder God? Now Im not saying he should come back. Hes had his day in the sun and now that doggies been put to sleep. BUT I do think his very nature and his unique creation should be explained in detail. Why he had to be destroyed, why did he come back, etc. We know how Kain was murdered and resurected as a vampire, why shouldnt we know the details of Raziels rebirth?

Theres also the minor details like the Lost City and the ruins in the Elder Gods lair in SR1 and the like that should be dealth with. But Raziel is priority #1.

P.S: OH!!! and Vorador. what happened to him after BO2?

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Old 03-05-2004, 04:40 AM
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oh i'll add one:
wanna see kain kill mobiues one more time

ive neva realy liked mobius (if only they could get a screen saver of mobius dying)
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:13 AM
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The big question for me is...what is the Elder God after? I mean, we know very little about him. He hates immortal beings (vampires), he feeds off souls, he runs the Wheel of Fate, and...that's it.

We know enough about the Hylden and Vampire wars. NOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IS THE ELDER GOD?!
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Old 03-05-2004, 12:21 PM
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dont care about how this would fit in but to play as lieutenant raziel - EVEN if he is an unlockable playable character

i wanna hear kain go "the heart of darkness" again and then describe its background cos i loved it so much in BO. When I selected something in Kains inventory and he said its name i was like "wow" - but he never said any thing else like "reputably blah blah blah" so i want the name and a descrition thanks!
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Old 03-05-2004, 08:31 PM
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I want to hear Raziel laugh some more
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Old 03-05-2004, 09:36 PM
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laughing!!! Mwua Ha Ha !!!
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:59 AM
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:13 AM
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I still put forward my case for singing, Kain dueting with Raziel in a rendition of indistructable by the Four Tops featuring Smokey Robinson

Or the Elder God singing Stairway to heaven by Led Zepplin?
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:23 AM
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I've put that to number 1 on my wish list.
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Old 03-06-2004, 02:01 PM
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i would LOVE to have orchestrated NEW music in the next game ala Tomb Raider AoD - except, the game should be better than TR (obviously) - the only thing i liked in AoD was the music! doh!
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Old 03-06-2004, 05:38 PM
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Default Open world!

i would really like to see a open world format for the game like in soul reaver 1 i wouldent mind some FMVs either
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Old 03-06-2004, 05:45 PM
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oh yeah, different difficulty settings.
that would be very nice.. something like more enemies or just a tougher challenge combat wise.

camera style options would be welcomed too.. ( for the sake of all these freagin whiners )
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:27 AM
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-Sword fighting like Blade of darkness.
-No more Raziel (he sucks).
-A better camera, at least something you can control. Especially on jumpping time.
-Better IA from enemies
-More complex puzzles
-More BO1 game alike
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