Beyond the call of Duty - Thors Hammer

[Whatchamacallit]

Hi!!

I am stuck in the Thors hammer mision. I am in the place where we have to place the decoy, then knife the person and carry his body away. i am not able to do this. can someone please help me out

Thanks
Whatchamacallit?!!

[Thorup]

if you could specify your location a bit better it would be easier to help.
btw. what is the mission in thors hammer?

[ragsy]

Thors Hammer is Mission 4 in BTCOD

Probably the hardest Commandos mission ever the large railway yard where you have to blow up the railgun and a couple of other carriages

[ragsy]

From the FAQ found here

Mission 4: Thor's Hammer
Date: September 11, 1943
Location: Bonn, Germany
Personnel: Tiny, Duke, Inferno

Introduction:

Allied troops have recovered Sicily. Hardly a month has gone by since
they arrived there. However, their progress has not been encouraging.
Close collaboration between the infantry and the artillery permits
Marshall Albert Kesselring to keep the Allies stuck in their positions.

The objective of your mission will be to destroy a large-caliber rail-
mounted cannon that is stopped at the train station in Bonn, Germany.
If you manage to destroy it, the Wehrmacht will lose an important
strategic artillery weapon that should be heading for Italy, and the
invasion troops will be able to advance towards the North.

Briefing:

Welcome, officer. During your mission, you must destroy the large
caliber train-mounted gun. Place two explosive charges next to it and
blow it to smithereens. You must also blow up the armored carriages
stopped on the siding. To do this, you must increase the power of the
explosives with the help of various barrels.
When you have managed this, use the locomotive that is on the first
track to escape towards the east. If you need to hide during the
mission, you could try to move one of the carriages and use it as a
shield. That will be all. As you will see, there is a great deal of
activity in the station so be sensible and do not risk the lives of
your men.

Scrapbook:
-You can push the carriages in order to hide behind them.
-To blow up the armor carriages, place several barrels of explosives
together with the bombs.
-Place two bundles of explosives to blow up the rail gun.
-To escape, use the locomotive stopped on the first track.

Objectives:
-Destroy the rail gun.
-Destroy the armored train.
-Use the locomotive to escape.

Walkthrough:

-SECURING THE WESTERN AREA-

First, you have to kill the guards nearby. Send Tiny to kill the guard
patrolling around the small house when the soldier to the east is not
looking. Timing is crucial here, as you have to IMMEDIATELY pick up the
body and hide it behind the stack of boxes and cable rolls before you
are spotted by the patrol to the north (might need a few tries). Next
crawl behind the small house and approach the guard standing beside the
guard standing next to the stack of boxed from the north. Kill him when
nobody is looking and leave the body there for now.
Kill the lone patrolling guard to your right when no one is looking
(beware of the patrol to the east) and carry the body to your starting
position. Do the same thing with the previous two corpses (just to be
safe).
Crawl back to the boxes and this time wait for the patrol to pass by
and quickly run to stab the guard between the two walls when he is not
looking. Carry the body to the same place as previous kills.
Now Tiny have to dispose of the two guards north of your starting
position. Put the decoy near the stack of boxes and activate it, kill
the patrolling guard that come to investigate. Hide the body with the
rest. Turn off the decoy and throw a cigarette pack so the standing
guard can see it, when he come to pick it up, activate the decoy. Kill
him and hide the body (don't get seen by the patrol while doing this).
Send Tiny to crawl north and stop at the train tracks. As soon as the
patrol heads east again, run and quickly stab the patrolling guard to
the north.
Additional note: You must time your movement so that by the time Tiny
delivers the cold steel blade to the guard, the guard should be walking
between the two large boxes and the metal tower. If you time it right,
the guard should be killed there and nobody will see the body. (If
someone does, load and try again as it might need a few tries). And
don't forget to crouch as soon as you knife him.
Next wait for the patrol to the north (near the rolls of cable and two
stacks of logs) to head east then send Tiny crawling to the south of
the cable. Kill the lone patrolling guard when he passed by to the
north and quickly hide his body between the two stacks of logs.
Send Tiny to hide beside the rolls of cable to the north and the large
warehouse. Put the decoy there and wait for the patrol to head south
again before throwing a cigarette pack to lure the lone patrolling
guard to the north. When he comes, activate the decoy and stab him.
Leave the body hidden there.
Crawl and stop at the staircase leading to the guard standing at the
large warehouse to the north. Make sure no one is looking when you kill
him and carry the body back to the previous place.
Now crouch near the roll of cable to the right and kill the guard there
when no one is looking. Carry the body through the gap at the wall and
hide the body there. Now kill the two guards to the east of guard you
just killed. Hide the bodies in the same place (should be a piece of
cake). And then drop the decoy there and go hide behind the wooden
carriage before activating it. The patrolling guard should come to
investigate. Quickly run and stab him, leave the body there.

-CLEARING THE VICINITY OF THE TRAIN STATION-

Send Tiny to crawl and put the decoy between the compound wall (area
with tents) and the large box (south of the barrack). Hide inside the
barrack and wait for the lone patrolling guard (patrolling the compound
perimeter) to come before activating the decoy to lure two guards
together. Kill them both and leave the bodies there.
Crawl into the compound and follow the pavement floor to the southeast
until you find a guard guarding the gate. Kill him when no one is
looking and leave the body there.

Next drop the decoy at the left of the leftmost tent and hide beside
the bottom tent. Activate it and the patrolling guard should come, kill
him and hide his body outside. Crawl back inside and kill the guard to
the right of the bottom tent and hide the body outside as well.
Crawl back inside and wait for the only patrolling guard to head west
again before killing the guard between the trees. Quickly run and kill
the guard to his left. Then hide in the closest tent. The patrolling
guard should see the body and yelled, bringing his friend along to
investigate. Kill them both before they can raise the alarm and leave
the bodies there.
Crawl eastward near the edge of the map, drop and activate the decoy
behind the pile of junk to lure the guard patrolling the compound
perimeter. Kill him and leave the body there. Kill the machine gunner
next, when nobody is looking.
Crawl all the way back until the big warehouse just south of the
barrack near the compound perimeter. Drop the decoy inside (far right
corner) the warehouse and hide behind the huge black door. Activate it
and two guards should come to investigate. Kill them both, leave the
bodies and pick up the decoy.
Drop the decoy again between the two wooden boxes and the car train to
the east. Wait for the guard patrolling the compound perimeter to get
close then activate the decoy. Two guards should come to investigate.
Crawl there and kill them both. QUICKLY go hide in the warehouse and
leave the bodies there. The patrolling guard to the south should see
the body, kill him and leave the body with the rest.
Stick and crawl alongside the compound perimeter. Stop just beside the
only guard standing there. Kill him when no one is looking and QUICKLY
carry the body and bring it A FEW STEPS to the southeast (stick to the
wall). QUICKLY DROP THE BODY AND CROUCH before the guard at the train
station can see you (might need a few tries).
Kill the guard standing next to the small house and hide inside it. The
guard at the train station should see the body and come to investigate.
Come out from your hiding and stab him from behind. Move the bodies and
hide them beside the house. Kill the guard next to the crane and hide
the body in the same place. Climb the ladder leading to the roof of the
station and stab the guard on top. Hide the body in the small corner.
Crouch and wait to ambush the other guard when he turns his back to
you. Leave the body there or hide it. It's entirely up to you.
Climb back down and wait for the guards at the station to look away,
then dash your way to the small corner at the center of the station.
Wait for the patrolling guard to move away then quickly run and stab
him so his body will fell right at the middle so the guards on both
sides will not see the body (again, this requires extreme timing and
you might need a few tries). Kill the guards on both sides and just
leave the bodies there.
Bring Duke over from the starting position to the station and position
him near the pile of junk to the northeast. Snipe the soldier on the
roof and just wait there for now. Tiny should put the decoy on the
front of the rail gun and activate it. Hide beside the track next to
the station and activate the decoy. The guard patrolling nearby should
go down the track to investigate. Stab him and leave the body there
(beware of the patrol and the remaining guard on the station roof).

-CLEANING THE REMAINING GUARDS-

Go back to the west and climb down the ladder near the large
warehouses, which lead to a large round space below. Place the decoy
there and stick to the wall. Activate it and a guard should come to
investigate. Wait at the bottom of the ladder and knife him while he's
climbing down. Just leave the body there.
Go to the western end of the rail gun where there are two guards
standing on each side. Drop the decoy near the crane to the north of
the upper guard and hide behind the crane. Activate it and when he
comes to investigate, he should see the bodies of his comrades behind
the house. Kill him when he walk by the crane and add his body to the
pile beside the house.
Next drop the decoy on the track, north of the second guard and hide
behind the crane. He should come to investigate and see the bodies at
the station. Kill him and hide the body with the rest. Don't forget to
kill the machine gunner, west of the crane. Hide his body at the same
place.
Next kill the guard in front of the small barrack south of the machine
gunner you just killed. Hide his body in the same place (beware of
patrols). Next crawl to the rail gun and stop behind the guard in front
of it. Kill him when the patrol is not looking and carry his body to
the small house to join the bodies piled there.

-SETTING UP THE EXPLOSIVES-

Send Inferno to plant two explosives on the rail gun (beware of the
patrol and the guard on the station roof).
Send Duke to hide behind the pile of junk near the northeast corner of
the map (near the escape train). Get Tiny and Inferno to crawl to the
big car train south of the end of train tracks (where there are two
guards on top). Wait for the patrol to pass and use Inferno to lob a
grenade to the ground. The resulting explosion should kill the patrol
and the two guards on top. MAKE SURE that every guard around the
armored train comes to investigate (including the other patrol to the
west). Lob the second grenade to kill them all.
Send Tiny to kill any remaining guards around the armored train. This
should be easy because most of them would have died from the blast
earlier (only two remains in my game). Send Inferno to plant the third
explosive inside the first train then the last one next to the second
train. Use Tiny to lift the barrels to the east and drop one inside the
first train and the remaining two barrels next to the second train.

-DESTROYING THE TRAIN-MOUNTED GUN, THE ARMORED TRAIN AND ESCAPE!!!-

Now circle around the map through the western side which you've cleared
earlier and join Duke behind the pile of junk. Detonate the explosives
simultaneously and tell Duke to snipe the guard at the gate leading to
the station.
Now everyone should crawl and get into the locomotive without being
seen. This requires extra timing especially if you want your men enter
the locomotive without even being shot once. The locomotive will start
and the soldiers will be firing furiously at it. When the train reaches
the northeastern corner of the map, the mission is accomplished!!!

[Whatchamacallit]

Hi!!

I dont want to use te walkthrough as I have not began with it in the first place and therefore do not want to start all over. I have taken a screenshot of where I am rightnow. I have uploaded it
to a website. (note: the file can only be downloaded off the website 10 times, so please do not download the file twice.). You can download the file from here:
http://www.sendthisfile.com/download...2Ezip&direct=0

The screenshot is zipped (only 150kb) and also shows the small map which is on the right-hand corner of the screen. I did this so u can see the enemies that I killed and the area that I have cleared. Please help me from here on

Thanks,
Whatchamacallit?!!

[sick]

uploaded the pic for u

commandos.jpg
(refresh if it doesnt work the first time)


now the question is, which guys you wanna kill?
you can also shoot all those nazis down! lin your commandos up and be sure to shoot very quickly

[Thorup]

Just shoot your way through it with the pistols. that's what I did.

[ragsy]

just thought i'd post a walkthrough to give some insight in how others did it, although i have not even read it...


This mission is IMO the hardest one i've encountered

I found stealth killing in this part of the map near impossible and thus i went the other direction around the map, ie counter clockwise,

I have cleared the enemies in this section when replaying but only via shooting them as they come around a corner, which is not very satifying, although much faster

[David]

Originally posted by ragsy
Thors Hammer is Mission 4 in BTCOD

Probably the hardest Commandos mission ever the large railway yard where you have to blow up the railgun and a couple of other carriages

i agree on this!

Originally posted by Thorup
Just shoot your way through it with the pistols. that's what I did.

bah! thats not what real pro's do. asi told u before i am so good, that i managed to complete this mission without using guns at all. of course took me 3 days

[sick]

i did the first 13/14 missions of cbel w/o guns nor alarm! still need to do the same with the rest of the missions....

[David]

good luck mate

[sick]

im gonna need that

[Whatchamacallit]

Hi!!

I would like to thank everybody here for helping me out. I finally finished the mission (using stealth!!). It took me 14 days!! I finished the rest of the missions in the next two days!!

Thanks
Whatchamacallit?!!
(Also do any o u experts know the answer to my question I asked in the Commandos 3 - Destination Berlin series? It is about a component transfer error. It is at this url:
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthr...threadid=32640
)

[David]

14 days!!!! wow....and i though i was slow nah mate, you did a great job!! congrads
btw how many hours per day u played it?

how did you liked not to use pistol at all in such a hard mission?