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Old 10-13-2003, 04:09 PM
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Big boobs = always good.

Well, not always, but they can't hurt.
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:16 PM
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Sure big boobs can hurt! (if she beats you around with them!)
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:30 PM
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How about Alex and Billie standing back-to-back with guns in their hands, ambiguous as to whether they're facing off in a duel or guarding each other's backs, in the glow of JCDenton looking down on them, all in those ubercool muted blues?
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:33 PM
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I like it! Probably minus JC though...
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:42 PM
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I say they go for another urban landscape. Maybe Alex standing in the middle of a crowd in a market, ouside of a club, etc. with people from all over the game forming the crowd. If two people are from opposing groups, like.. they'll be looking at each other funny, and maybe in the process of drawing their weapons, or something like that. Alex will be standing in the middle with a half angry, judging look on his face. Add some mechanical what nots all around to give the game the futuristic look. Put some cool blue stuff here and there...

What do you guys think?
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:51 PM
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Interestingly enough, I checked the Eidos page and all the other "trusted" game sites I could think of, but none of them showed the cyber-hip-punk kid pointing the gun down at the screen as the official box cover.

To, uh, whoever created this thread, could you tell me where you got this information from?
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:57 PM
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EBGames


Amazon


GoGamer (obviously a placeholder box design)


Gamestop


Best Buy



EDIT: on Best Buy's image you can see the game is rated "M for Mature" instead of "Rating Pending" for other images. This part of the box is covered in EBGames' image.

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Old 10-13-2003, 05:00 PM
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Yah, Fuzz, you've been going on a crusade across the entire internet about this, but we don't even know if that's the box art.

I hope the one at Amazon is not the official one, and with two months still to go before release there's no reason why it would be the absolute final version.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:12 PM
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I remember the picture from GoGamer being the first I ever saw of anything DX:IW related. It looked like an MJ12 Commando who lost his machine gun/rocket launcher.

Still does, actually. If ever I see one of those guys in the game, I'll always expect him to say, "Bandit! He's close!".

But anyway, let's hope that Eidos chooses a better image to market the game. You'd figure that since these are the official Eidos boards, some corporate exec would be secretly, silently perusing threads like these, taking notes, and then sending his report to Mander-- uh, someone.
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Old 10-14-2003, 12:51 AM
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Yah, Fuzz, you've been going on a crusade across the entire internet about this, but we don't even know if that's the box art.
yah I was fired up man

I'm a bit calmer today though
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Old 10-14-2003, 10:33 PM
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Why does Alex look like a vampire "gangsta?"

Well, if you ask me, that terrorist holding up a nanite detonator in the middle of Chicago before setting it off (front view so you can sorta see his hooded face) would make better box art than a punk-rockin', undead Denton. It would, of course, have to have a blue tint like DX1's box. Tradition and all that...

The pic of Alex on the old Deus Ex site would be a whole lot better as well, in my opinion. Lots of things would be better than the box art in the first post.
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:11 AM
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That, Lawnboy360, is the very box cover that I saw in the store at Best Buy. The box contains a "T" shirt with the same picture of that spike haired punk pointing the pistol with the careless sideways grip of a hip hop moron.

To "Old man Warren" this says, "I'm far too cool and above your values to hold this lethal weapon with the respect and care of a trained and disciplined police-agent but it's good enough to pop a cap in YOUR ass... BEAUCH!"

It also removes the "God" in "God from the machine" and any subtlety or mystery about what might be in the game story. The original cover had JC aspiring to or receiving inspiration from the heavens. That perhaps is thought to be too subtle to appeal to the socially retarded 13 year old boys today who prance about in the oversized, sloppy, "up-yours" prison garb with their pants hanging below their buttocks. (Is this social horror operating in Europe as well?)

I can only hope that the box art does NOT reflect game content. This is disappointing and actually rather depressing to me. I had the impression from every interview I have read by Warren Spector that this new game would appeal even more to my 28 year old daughter (also a fan of Deus Ex) than the previous game did. This box art certainly won't.
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Old 10-15-2003, 06:34 AM
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Tough words, Warren, but I agree completely.

And I also agree with El Padrino that the picture of Alex on the original DX:IW site would've been better. Damnit, anything would be better than the cyberhippunkgangsta.
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:09 PM
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All I can say is that immaturity with money ruins everything for the rest of us.

But ive got an Idea. They can have 2 box designs.

1. An annoyingly flamboyant one to put on the xbox cover which would appeal to the early teen, american idol crowd.

2. And a more subtly engaging cover for the PC which would, at the very least, not detract from the game.

Now Im not saying if you own an xbox you watch american idol. sheesh.
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:15 PM
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That's a possibility. I remember Serious Sam had a very different box art on the XBox than on the PC, but it was published at a different time by a different publisher. There's probably other examples but I can't remember.



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Old 10-15-2003, 12:47 PM
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I guess at this point its safe to say that the first pic I posted is not confirmed to be the box, although IMO that design should never even surfaced from IS/eidos. I think that between now and the shipment of Dx2 Ion will get the message that that particular box art sucks heavily.

I'm almost sure that the final box art will be better than this one
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:41 PM
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Ion will get the message that that particular box art sucks heavily.
Publishers(Eidos) usually take decisions like the box art; not the developer(Ion Storm). A Troika Games dev posted on a forum that nobody on the team liked the box art Atari chose for The Temple of Elemental Evil, but there was not much they could do about it. It's probably different only for developers such as Blizzard or Valve, who can also choose their release date without being pushed by the publisher.
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Old 10-15-2003, 02:20 PM
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Hello everybody, I'm new to the boards and this is my first post.

I agree with the majority on that any of the box covers for DX:IW featuring that guy with glowing eyes and a huge pistol does not make justice to the game itself.

I believe the one from DX was ingenius. The right colors, the right style thus a great atmoshpere was created by just a simple picture. And it reflected the game's nature quite accurately.

I don't like these particular renders because they went more on a cartoony and "warmer" side. Alex, just as JC is an augmented agent, he's not supposed to have any emotions nor feelings expressions on his face. There should be a calm, indifferent and slightly philosophical look on it. And JC's portrait on original cover had it.

This guy looks a bit annoyed and a bit evil ... why?

They should make a cover which would feature some sub-meaning or feel to it (like DX did). Maybe Alex standing at the edge of a roof top of a skyscraper and looking down at the city at night and under falling rain. With similar expression as JC did looking up to the light, here Alex would be looking down into the darkness. I don't know ... make something creative, not a cool "all business" stud pointing "uber-gun" at you.

P.S. Please, do not judge all X-Box owners by the same criteria. I happen to own one and will be purchasing DX:IW for it because I'm not planning to throw out on the wind a few thousand dollars to get the ultimate computer now. I deeply love and respect the 1st DX game (which I played on PC) and also anticipate the 2nd one for it's noir (hopefully) style and look and immersive world/gameplay.

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Old 10-15-2003, 02:38 PM
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LOL El Padrino.

"Punk-rockin' undead Denton". Ive been trying to nail a discription of that new denton pic and couldnt quite put my finger on it.

You know, I actually feel bad about disin' the new art because the artist obviously has some MAJOR talent. Especially with textures.
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Old 10-15-2003, 04:22 PM
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I doubt the decision has anything to do with the Xbox, because apparently the average age of PC and Xbox gamers is pretty much the same.

I don't see what's wrong with this one:



Looks pretty cool, in my opinion. Attractive, subtle, easy on the eyes.
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Old 10-15-2003, 04:50 PM
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That is likely the best of them. Still, I think most of us would greatly prefer a style similar to the original one. It was...engaging, a hint of mystery, a bit of the style of the game reflected on the box. It was...sad, but that's not the right word. Contemplative. As if he had to make a nasty choice and was thinking it over.

I'm probably reading way too much into it. But it definitely has that slightly wistful air to it.
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:17 PM
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There's a magazine ad done in the style of DX1's box art. Alex looks a bit gruff, though.
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:23 PM
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I don't see what's wrong with this one:
Indeed, it's not that bad, and way better than the other one. And it's on much more sites than the other one, which is only on amazon.
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Old 10-15-2003, 07:55 PM
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I guess at this point its safe to say that the first pic I posted is not confirmed to be the box, although IMO that design should never even surfaced from IS/eidos. I think that between now and the shipment of Dx2 Ion will get the message that that particular box art sucks heavily.

I'm almost sure that the final box art will be better than this one
No no Fuzz. Don't try to defuse the situation now *slams his fist on his desk* The art is geared towards the typical idiot gamer these days *hits monitor* I hate it!!! hate it!!!!

Actually I don't give a sh.. uh. damn about the box art, as long as the game isn't some no brainer shoot'em up fps like the art suggests. I do beleive it's just a marketing ploy. Let them sell, more sales = more support and more sequels. Keep'em coming.
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Old 10-15-2003, 08:56 PM
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There's a magazine ad done in the style of DX1's box art. Alex looks a bit gruff, though.
If I ever saw that in stores, I might hesitate to buy the game. Irrational, I know, since so far it seems to be shaping up to be a great game, but that box art... I don't know. I shouldn't make a big deal about it (but I will because I don't want to study for my midterm just yet).


Perhaps they can do what Blizzard did with Warcraft III, and have 4 different boxes, with 4 different tag lines. It'll be sort of be a marketing experiment.


One can be one of those awful ones with the more appropriate tag line: "In the future war on terror, how will you rock your way though the hood, G?"

The male and female Alex variants could have their own box (for some reason my mind is being flooded with very inappropriate but funny, at least to me, tag lines for the female version). And since there just has to be a fourth one, my nanite detonator terrorist idea would, of course, have to be one of the boxes.

Think about it, what better way to emphasize the power and importance of nanotechnology in relation to the game than to have the terrorist guy on it somehow, holding the nanite detinator up in a Statue of Liberty type pose. It's certainly a better idea than clothing with a purple glow.

Of course, if you just have to have a Denton on it, which is probably a better idea but I don't want to think about that right now, you could have a close up (mid chest and up) of him/her (or both) standing in some crowded city at night, with loads of people behind them in the same direction to in a small but effective way make a big deal about how only his/her/their eyes are glowing. Those black helicopters or flying security bots can be in there somewhere. And if it has to have a gun in it, just "zoom out" have him/her/them hold hold a mid-sized automatic rifles or something, a little away from their leg (as in not holding it chest level). Then tint it blue, and there you go.

Anything other than the first box and the one I replied to, please. They are physically painful to look at. Why has his hair been screwed with like that, anyway? The first Denton had a professional look. Is the Tarsus Academy churning out a new generation of biomoded hipsters?

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