kains and razs powers

[Razeil-ANH]

hey wassap
listen will kain and raz have new powers, and will they be used by each one of them or only on of them

[The Amazing Rando]

We get to play as the all-powerful demi-god Kain, so yeah he's got new powers. I don't know about new 'powers' for Raz (like wall climbimg or anything-tho there are bosses now so maybe), but there will be new spells and Reaver upgrades for both Kain and Raz. It's unclear at this time whether they will both get the same upgrades or not-tho my interpretation of the official site leads me to believe they will get different reaver enhancements and abilities.

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[Omega]

From the demo I've played, Kain has this kick-ass telekinesis ability, which he can control enemies with (much like in the trailers for the game) and even destroy objects with it.

As for Raziel, he'll have the usual... like phasing through gates, shifting Realms (with his new-and-improved way).

Oh yeah, and the ability to scale walls in the spirit world.

[The Amazing Rando]

oh yeah duh. lol Both Kain and Raz have Telekenesis powers now, tho technically both had it before (Kain in BO2 and Raz w/ his Force Projectile), but now it has been greatly enhanced and will play a big role in combat. Raz will also have a different way of shifting as well.

More info on Defiance can be found in this thread or at legacyofkain.com

[Dark God Francisco]

The new telekinesis system is something im looking foward too as well whatever spells and powers Raz and Kain have.

As for Raz and Kain's telekinesis Force projectile wasn't the only telkinetic ability Raz had he can also pick up weapons with the short range telekinesis method Kain in BO2 has force projectile as well if you use TK on enemies.

[Dormarth]

Well I've read that Kain uses his mist form like Raziel uses his phase through gates ability he got from Melchiah.

Kain has his bat form, but there has been no conformation on his wolf form. So I'm a little doubtful on that. I'm still hoping though.

I expect that Kain will use his teleportation in a similar fashion to his mist. I mean that he would use it at certain points or maybe in cut-scene and not in an ability you can use at will.

[Alastor]

Hey people, "fledgling poster" here. I was wondering, if raziel and Kain do meet with Turel in defiance, will Raziel still want to kill him, or will they just forget the past ...errr future or whatever and become allies.

[Razeil-ANH]

so this means both kain and raz will have just the reavers enchantments not new physical power, damn!!!!

[Dormarth]

We know that Raz has elemental Reaver upgrades, such as water etc. Does Kain have the same or is his Reaver upgrades different? I can imagine him having an aversion to water.

[Umah Bloodomen]

Some of you may be interested in this thread.

[xarax]

Nah, that thread is old and boring....

I read somewhere that the super powerful Spirit Reaver that was cut out of Soul Reaver2 was supposed to have teleport ability. Just aim the spirit reaver at a distant wall and shoot. when the projectile hits the wall, Raz is teleported to that vicinity. Just rumor, so don't count on seeing that kind of ability in LokDefiance.

[warpsavant]

I think (maybe) the whole possession thing came from that idea. No one knows too much about the Spirit Reaver or the teleporting "hookshot" - but I think the hookshot may've worked between planes.

[Razeil-ANH]

Originally posted by warpsavant
I think (maybe) the whole possession thing came from that idea. No one knows too much about the Spirit Reaver or the teleporting "hookshot" - but I think the hookshot may've worked between planes.

i read that can will have the mist abilty that will grant him accseess throw doors like raz,suck like raz,float like raz,has a reaver like raz,has telekinisse like raz and so on...SO Y DO THE DESINERS MAKE NEW POWERS AND AREAS FOR EACH CHARACHTER RATHER THAN MACKING THEM DA SAME.
p.c:correct me if i'm worng!!!

[Alastor]

I always wondered why in SR, Raziel had all these cool glyph spells, but in SR2 he couldn't do any of them. What makes me even more upset, is that the LOK games coming out now only seem to focus on the soul reaver enhancements and not raziel. And don't take it the wrong way, but I mean how many different ways can the reaver kill someone? Why not give raziel other enhancements like speed, invisibility, or the ability to put out fires with his a**, just give me something to look forward to instead of the same old reaver enhancements.
I mean C'mon!!

[Razeil-ANH]

I noticed that kain and raz have almost the same powers look at this article if u dont belave me

http://uk.playstation.com/news/news...WS&linktype=MPC

and if u dont wanna heres da summery

1 kain can suck as do raz
2 kain has da reaver as do ras
3 they both have teleknisses or wutever
4 can pass throw bars
5 can float
6 alot of combos r da same
and so on and so forth

and i wanna ask: WHY THE f IS THAT??????????

[Wumpy Puppy]

CD wants to make it easy to switch between characters each chapter. It would confuse people if each button did different things for Kain and Raz, so they both get similiar abilities.

[Likin]

I have heard that Raz can nolonger shift to the spirt world by hitting select and useing the glyph. So does any one no how he is to switch from plan to plan? Does he stab himself each time he wants to go to spirt world? Just one theory i had. If you no any thing please reply.

[Matt from Spam Buddies]

At the moment, it seems that Raziel wills himself to blow up his material body, thus his spirit no longer has a material shell and he returns to the Spectral Realm.

At least that's what the second trailer vaguely showed us...

- Matthew

[Berkano]

Well from what I gather in the newest trailer, Kain has a wide assortment of 'chop you to tiney bits' combos, whereas Raziel is more magically based. You'll notice that Kain often uses big telekenisis combos and chops things to bits, where Raziel uses the power of the Soul Reaver to its fullest extent by smiting a group of enemies with various area-effect attacks.

But sadly, I think this game will focus more on Kain than Raziel, as the trailer suggests. They seemed to have put far more work into Kain than Raziel. Which I do not like.

I do hope they fix those clipping issues too. They really should have not showed those in the trailer. Why advertise the faults in your software? Tsk tsk. I hated BO2 in some ways because of bad clipping..
Ie: Bad guys fighting from within a wall. Or a body falling into a wall. Or when you got a guy on the ropes, he gets pushed into the wall and then you can't attack him cause you hit the wall instead. grrr..