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08-28-2003, 08:52 PM
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Demo!
What a HUGE disappointment from Commandos 2. There are absolutely no keyboard shortcuts! This game has been dumbed-down, so that you have to point and click on everything. I don't know why they ruined such a fine game.
Last edited by @m; 08-29-2003 at 01:58 AM. 
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08-29-2003, 10:27 AM
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i couldn't argee more, with any luck they'llhave editable hotkeys like in c2.
if not i see no reason in even playing c3, its just too damn unplayable. note to developers... please at least have an option to have controls/hotkeys like c2
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08-29-2003, 10:38 AM
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I'm still crushed over the this. The gameplay now is ridiculously awkward. I cannot believe the majority of users don't use the keyboard shortcuts. Did you see how the "aggressive" works? It takes forever to set the commando up to cover an area.
It's a shame. Pyro was so much better than any other games in this genre, now it looks like the competitors have instantly leap-frogged over them.
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08-29-2003, 10:41 AM
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in order to include the tutorials and a mission i'm sure they had to leave some stuff out to make it a managable download. wouldn't you agree or didn't you think? i would imagine there will be shortcuts in the final version....
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08-29-2003, 11:17 AM
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08-29-2003, 01:29 PM
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david, i really hope your right!
but still the new camera control is akward and alot of the times when you move the cursor to the side of the screen the map doesn't pan, talk about annoying. with C2's control scheme this game could be every bit as good as C2! 
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#8
08-30-2003, 12:22 AM
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I am not so sure
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I was not too thrilled with the "men of courage "demo either. BEL and BCD were two GREAT games.... I bought "preotorians" from Eidos, too. I had heard soem good things about it, and only played it for one day. Stupid interface.. I do think that the game (C3) will be much like the demo. It used to be that you could start a commandos game with no tutorial whatever, nice and easy. No more. DARN IT!! how can you screw up such a good thing. I just don't get it... Everyone seems to think that they have to be more complex than the next guy, Wrong !! I remember the demo for BCD.... hard one to crack. but great to play...This one... I really don't care to have different camera angles and zooms, and so forth.. Make the mission more difficult, not the game harder to play.. DUH !!!! I for one, WILL NOT buy C3 before checking this forum and reading what you have to say. Thanx sean PS: does anyone have any idea has to when Thief and Deus ex' are coming out?
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#9
08-30-2003, 01:41 PM
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You're right, Sean. I cancelled my preorder on C3 based on the demo. I think they wanted to attract a wider audience with this new gameplay with the silly point and click interface. Plus, they don't discount killing over knocking out like in C2. In the demo, it doesn't matter whether you punch, stab or shoot. Even the inventory swapping is cumbersome. It's a shame considering they had a great franchise on their hands. I can't see how they weren't doing well not with all of the copycats doing similar work, e.g. Desperados, Robin Hood.
Oh well, the next few months are going to be bountiful without C3: Half Life 2, Star Wars: Jedi Academy, Deux Ex 2 (end of year, by the way), Call of Duty. I played the demo of Call of Duty last night; it is Spectacular! (MOH times 10) I guess I'll play C2 again for the third time in the meantime. P.S. Thief 3 is suppose to out end of year, but I think sometime next year is the most likely date. Cheers!
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08-30-2003, 05:26 PM
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I've tested the demo now, and I am not impressed. Nothing's new (thinking about the sounds, guns, stuff to distract the enemy with..), but I really hope Pyro removed all these things just for the demo. But if this is the finished result Pyro have missed one customer (and I'm a hardcore Commandos fan).
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#14
08-30-2003, 05:36 PM
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Hey JT1
Thanks for the " call of cuty" demo..
The name is strangely familiar :-)))) It looks good and straight forward to play... I also took a look at the deus ex trailer. Hard to tell what it will be like , but the screenshots look like they didn't go overboard .. Let's hope I had seen somewhere, that the release date was Sept. 03 Wi'll see... see you all later. Sean
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#15
09-01-2003, 07:13 PM
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save your money....
there's another tactical shooter out there. I can't name it because they will probably delete my post, but check out www.megagames.com and then scroll down about 2 pages in "demos." You'll see a real time strategy game based on world war II with deformable objects.
Commandos 3 demo has been a huge disapointment. No key shortcuts, the AI is dumb as usual, and basic features like aggressive mode do not even work. Why release a demo that is so bug ridden you can't even play it?
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#16
09-06-2003, 04:02 PM
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New and improved?
Commandos 3 also promises to be more accessible and easier to play than previous games in the series.
So goes the explanation concerning C3 as seen on "3D Gamers" web page. (incidently, and I have no incentive for saying that, except to be helpfull, but 3D gamers doesn' ask you for anything in order to downlaod and if you choose to downlaod form the Indianna mirror, you don't have to shut down your firewall. Plus they have all the latest demo available ....) But after playing the demo and moreover reading the intreview with "Perez" as posted in this forum, I can deduct that this game will be more about "bring'em on" rather that using your brain to go throught the game. Let's hope they didn't go too far in that direction. PS: I am really glad that all the screenshots regarding "thief III" look very nice and not too far fetch from the previous games Sean
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#17
09-08-2003, 03:48 PM
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Hey! Hey !
Since this post has over 920 views, I only wanted to keep it alive and well..
Shame on me... Sean  We have reached the thousand mark... HAHHAHHAHA I can rest now. I may take time off and learn russian, italian, and greek. Oh ! and Martian too.  This post has to reach 2000. That's my goal. Imagine all the folks reading it, and postponding buying C3 . Perhaps Pyro could learn something as a result.. Sean ~edit~ 3 posts ---> 1 post Last edited by @m; 09-19-2003 at 09:54 AM.
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#19
09-18-2003, 11:13 PM
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Re: save your money....
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Looks interesting but i hate turn based games, maybe i'll give it a try, anyone tried it?
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#21
09-19-2003, 01:17 AM
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to all the people claiming that this is just a demo and don't judge the final product by it... ISN'T THAT THE PURPOSE OF A DEMO???
pyro would be stupid to leave out NEEDED fatures that the Commandos fans couldn't do without, besides who was this demo made for? casual gamers who've never played the franchise or commando fans, i would think the later and i'm sure so would pyro. so i'm more then sure that the demo is a good refelection of what the finished product will be like, so the community is justifed in being disappointed. Last edited by demise88; 09-19-2003 at 01:21 AM.
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#23
09-19-2003, 10:30 AM
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Besides both BEL and BTCOD demos were different from the game itself. All we have to do is wait and see...
Iakovos
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