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Old 07-23-2003, 07:35 AM
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We are those who pay for TR and loose some sleep awaiting the TR games ,you should pay some attention answer and talk to us asking what we want and what we don't to play in this game...why must we cry out if nobody listen to us?
Please name a representant and we gonna tell him what we expect for you in next TR and be sure we are really TR fans and we gonna tell you our needs.If you thrust us we will do the same and be sure your game will be the best next time.learn from AOD big mistakes...
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Old 07-23-2003, 08:10 AM
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Do EIDOS and CORE come to your office and tell you how to sweep up???

You may not have liked AOD and many will not, but on the otherhand many have and will love the game.

There are so many people out there that there is always going to be a large group of people that hate it or love it.

Many people hate the hand icon, but I really loved it.
Some people dig the controls and some do not.
Who should they try and please, this group over here or this group over there?????

CORE know what they are doing and I am sure that the next Tomb Raider will be even better.
Consider AOD a warm up and getting Lara back into the gaming scene.
After a bit of tweaking and polishing Lara will shine brighter than ever.

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Old 07-23-2003, 08:39 AM
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You never fail to cheer me up Blue Skies.
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Old 07-23-2003, 08:43 AM
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The PC Version has just been released in the UK so maybe they are waiting to get more comments about the game before they approach the subject.

Core HQ is only 12mile away, perhaps i'll pay them a visit
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Old 07-23-2003, 08:43 AM
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I thing TR should stay TR for TR fans ....other games fans should buy their favourite games and buy TR if they wants to become one of us....sure they will be if they try more than 3-4 levels from original TR series...those who played just AOD are not TR fans...and they are talking in forums from unknown causes...I don't think EIDOS&CORE will desapoint TR fans to please others game fans....they certanly loose us for good...but they sure don't if they change the
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Old 07-23-2003, 08:58 AM
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I thing TR should stay TR for TR fans ....other games fans should buy their favourite games and buy TR if they wants to become one of us....sure they will be if they try more than 3-4 levels from original TR series...those who played just AOD are not TR fans...and they are talking in forums from unknown causes...I don't think EIDOS&CORE will desapoint TR fans to please others game fans....they certanly loose us for good...but they sure don't if they change those:
-put back the lara control from TR series with some improuves like atack with bare hands
-put back the camera angles
-give Lara back the dual guns
-give us back TR sound(remember the music when Lara descovers important things or she were in danger in TR 2?that was beautiful)
-give back the tombs and miystic areas
-give back 'Lara's home'
-change the way of Lara aspect when she walk the stairs she look like a monkey then
-give lara back the precision of jumps not free jump like in AOD
-eliminate the RPG facts like he borring talking around with people or the possibillity to chose the answers ths can make you loose some important parts of the game
-eliminate that ridiculous 'i'm not strong enough' or something
-eliminate the time that Lara can stay hanging
-eliminate the almost impposible to beat bosses like red ghost or boaz
Like this with a new story TOMB RAIDER 7' will be the best game ever I think...
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Old 07-23-2003, 09:06 AM
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i actualy like the "free jump" mode tho the manner which she gains the upgrades was poorly done i think.

and as for the length of time she could hang was a nice improvement i thought.
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Old 07-23-2003, 09:16 AM
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I think the time limit for lara to stay hanging is a major improvement and makes the game challenging.

Also red ghost and Boaz were decently challenging enemies. If they were as easy as eckhart or karel, that would have been stupid. I hope they have more of as challenging bosses in the next one, if not more challenging.

The free jumping makes the game challanging

It seems to me you want unchallenging things in the game.

I think the talking was good coz now when I played the game a second time, I have to travel towards and thru the graveyard in a different way. I would have actually wanted to miss a larger chunk of the game through the talking coz then I'd have a better reason to play the game again. Oh well, whatever turns u on, bakes your cake, washes your dishes, raids your tombs.....
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:29 AM
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lets see how many oldest fans wants that 'new improvment for most chalanger game' and how many doesn't ,did you see how many threads are against the controls the free jumps and how many requests are for savegames after the 'easyer to beat bosses'?take a look back after these forums play old TR series compare the fun and athmosfere and after that give me an answer...prohabs this game is good only for nonTR fans but for us???what about us?must go to the other games?
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Old 07-23-2003, 07:04 PM
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The PC Version has just been released in the UK so maybe they are waiting to get more comments about the game before they approach the subject.

Core HQ is only 12mile away, perhaps i'll pay them a visit

That's pretty funny. I hope you do! LOL

I get the feeling that maybe this game should have been released stictly for the newbies and casual 'Raiders, with a longer, fuller, more traditional version for us vets.
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Old 07-24-2003, 03:47 AM
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Woah, edy_smf, put the gun away!!! Be fair, ok, the game had a fair few buggerings here and there but overall it was fine. Terrible controls until you get used to them but... y'know...
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Old 07-24-2003, 05:34 PM
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there is not just the controls...there was to many things like rpg facts in TR this is stoopid....OK there are and many better things like graphics...and maybe the story but I am not so sure.....
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:41 PM
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If you've watched the 'Making Of' Extra featurette on the game disk you'll know what a load of pretentious w**k that was - All the big names from Core/Eidos including the now-departed J Heath-Smith playing up to the camera in an ill-judged, badly-executed 'noir' documentary (if you can call ten minutes of badly-lit, moody gits a documentary).

The words Hype and B***S***t spring immediately to mind. Who's got egg all over their faces now (and in Heath-Smith's case, no job)?

I hope a lesson has been learned by Core/Eidos, I really do.

AoD is a pretty good game - I love it, anyway. But the relentless and suffocating hype machine at Eidos and Core deserves to have a spanner thrown in its works.

A lot less hype: a little more humility next time might go down very well with the fans.

BTW: The 'Making Of' documentary is a film still waiting to be made.
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Old 07-25-2003, 05:22 AM
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Ralo, gimmie that (swipes Ralo's gun) This is confiscated!!!

Ah cool! Now I've confiscated Ralo and edy_smt's firearms... I'VE FINALLY GOT THE DUAL PISTOLS!!!
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Old 07-25-2003, 03:16 PM
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and I think you are feeling better with dual guns,right?What about Eidos&Core gave them from the beginning...you surelly didn't need ours than...like many things you miss in TR ,,,I am sure of that evan if many people don't adimte this and tell that AOD is better
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blue Skies
Consider AOD a warm up and getting Lara back into the gaming scene.
After a bit of tweaking and polishing Lara will shine brighter than ever.
Not having played AOD yet, I can't really comment on the game.
But having been witness to all the griping about it as well as all the
praise, that's probably the smartest thing anybody's said so far...
I've gotta wait for a Mac version anyways. Hopefully by then the bugs'll be worked out.
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Old 07-26-2003, 09:39 AM
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edy_smf: If youve read the posts in the forum, youd notice most people complaining the game to be too short and too easy. If we were to bring back the grid-based jumping, it would be even easier. I would certainly not want that. The jumping system now needs you to get the timing right, which is much more funner.

As for the bosses, most people who need the saved games have some bug problem. If they find it too hard, then they just need to keep trying. If we are gona skip the hard levels no wonder the game feels short. If anything, there have been more complaints about the bosses being too easy.

Ive played from TR1 to TR4 and the bosses in all of them are usually very hard.Dont you remember the big round ball type boss in TR1, that was damn hard. If you are a true TR fan you shoulda got used to the hard bosses by now.

For you, I hope Core make TR7 like other games where you get to choose from easy and hard difficulty levels at the start of the game, then you might be happier.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:14 AM
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ok man I want smart jumps where i can control Lara...In TR 1-5 I could In AOD major of jumps was bassed on luck and not on smart...and in TR 1 that boss could be beaten...you can run away from him with the guns drawed but in AOD that guy that has not be in TR even can't get closser to the target and moves like an idiot straight to the boss you can't run away from it with the guns out or jump and shoot or roll...that's the point...not because the boss s to hard,but red ghost?? Can you really shoot a ghost?? can you be faster than it? the picture disapears even the ghost isn't near...that really sucked that wasn't based on smart ,that bassed only for luck ....

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Old 07-26-2003, 04:11 PM
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you should vote in the ' POLL:how must TR be more like?' if tou like previous series and you want to see a game like them again!
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