IGN.com

[Frugo_PL]

Yes, IGN,com nothing more. People who worry that the new TR will be crappy, do not believe IGN! I dont know what kind of drugs they give to the reviewers, but I surely know that they are strong. Need example? Ok, for example, TR 4, probably the best TR ever got rated 7/10... In other mags/newspapers - between 8 and 10... Or Enter The Matrix - 6.5... ok, the last one is a bit off! I played the game personally (even beat it) and I must say that it's AT LEAST an 8/10 title. Now they are talking crap about AoD. If IGN will keep on giving such low scores, they will never find a good game! SO remember - IGN.com is a bunch of pessimistic drug addicts who dont know crap about games.

[XanderD2]

Originally posted by Frugo_PL
Or Enter The Matrix - 6.5... ok, the last one is a bit off! I played the game personally (even beat it) and I must say that it's AT LEAST an 8/10 title. Now they are talking crap about AoD. If IGN will keep on giving such low scores, they will never find a good game! SO remember - IGN.com is a bunch of pessimistic drug addicts who dont know crap about games.

Actually, I think their Matrix rating is very close to the mark.

I can understand Frugo_PL ..IGN is just going to far with their "this game s*cks and I don't even want to waste my time realizing it's not so bad"

Just look at some statements:

"Eventually this game will come out and we will even review it for you"

"If Lara kills a bad guy with stealth why doesn't she grab his gun and use it since she's unarmed" - well d'uh it's a game... I never heard them complaining about that when reviewing games like MGS2 and Splinter cell....

And some other statements like these; it's just not professional what they are doing...

And believe it or not they always were bad reviewers for Tomb raider because they do not like the game...makes sense doesn't it?

[Mangar The Dark]

I just finished reading the IGN preview, and it seems reasonable to me.

I think a lot of us are simply clinging to the hope that AOD will be spectacular, despite some evidence to the contrary, and we get mad when somebody dares to tell us that the game isn't the best thing since sliced bread (and I bet somebody will get mad at me for saying this too.) None of us here have really played the game (as far as I know). We've only seen a few trailers-- some of which were good, others which left a lot of us a bit skeptical in recent threads.

The people who HAVE played the game (those at E3), weren't thrilled with it. Frankly, I'd take the word of someone who actually played it, over somebody who only read a press release.

The preview mentions the uninspired action, which is something a lot of us on this forum complained about when we saw the training video (many of us said it looked a little too familiar.) It also mentions some annoyances such as not being able to open doors while your gun is out. Yes, I know it sounds minor, but those minor details can make a game less enjoyable. If you're being shot at, and you want to get through a door, it will be annoying to have to holster your gun and be defenseless for those few seconds. A few more annoyances along with that one will ultimately make the game a bit of a dud.

I'm certainly not giving up hope for AOD, I just think it's unfair to criticize an article written by somebody who actually had a chance to see AOD in action when most of our praise for the game is really nothing more than wishful thinking at this point.

If we can all come back here on June 20th and say, "Hah! IGN was wrong! The game is spectacular!" that'll be great.

[Frugo_PL]

The point is that IGN simply gives too low ratings. Often I play the game and it's not so bad, and trust me, I am a very selective guy. They played ONE mission and they are already saying that TR will have uninspired and slow action... Ok, look at any TR game. There always has been slow action (most of the time). I can bet that IGN hires amatuers to do the reviews, most of whom are prejudiced. For example, look at at any of the professionsal reviewers - like at PC Gamer, Computer Gaming World, or PSM. There people try to find as many good sides of the game as possible! Now, at IGN, they concentrate on finding minor bugs, like the weapon and door thing (btw, in every TR game you had to holster your gun... and it was never a problem...). I also read the review of TR 4. And all that I found were BUGS, no good sides! The best part was "some puzzles are good, but some, like this flame puzzle, are simply frustrating." Lemme put it this way - TR 4 had the most and the best puzzles yet... and they say that they are lame... WTF! They didn't even TRY to compare the good improvments with the new ones!

[unkwon]

Originally posted by Mangar The Dark
I just finished reading the IGN preview, and it seems reasonable to me.

I think a lot of us are simply clinging to the hope that AOD will be spectacular, despite some evidence to the contrary, and we get mad when somebody dares to tell us that the game isn't the best thing since sliced bread (and I bet somebody will get mad at me for saying this too.) None of us here have really played the game (as far as I know). We've only seen a few trailers-- some of which were good, others which left a lot of us a bit skeptical in recent threads.

The people who HAVE played the game (those at E3), weren't thrilled with it. Frankly, I'd take the word of someone who actually played it, over somebody who only read a press release.

The preview mentions the uninspired action, which is something a lot of us on this forum complained about when we saw the training video (many of us said it looked a little too familiar.) It also mentions some annoyances such as not being able to open doors while your gun is out. Yes, I know it sounds minor, but those minor details can make a game less enjoyable. If you're being shot at, and you want to get through a door, it will be annoying to have to holster your gun and be defenseless for those few seconds. A few more annoyances along with that one will ultimately make the game a bit of a dud.

I'm certainly not giving up hope for AOD, I just think it's unfair to criticize an article written by somebody who actually had a chance to see AOD in action when most of our praise for the game is really nothing more than wishful thinking at this point.

If we can all come back here on June 20th and say, "Hah! IGN was wrong! The game is spectacular!" that'll be great.

Kind of sad too... I was really hopping for TR to make a comeback... I don't see why core can't seem to do it! I personaly think Core is lazy, though they do have the talent... because I've exelent games made in 9 mounths, and I know Core can make really Killer games... Though also when you look at it, it is TR and core cannot not really make it into something else, there are very little people I know every where that look at TR as the Britney Spears of gaming, ask them and they'll flame you... I Still hope they can get it right...

Why in the hell can't they release a demo!!! Dang it!

[shutian]

Originally posted by XanderD2
Actually, I think their Matrix rating is very close to the mark.

We agree on this count.

[Glucolisis]

Even if I like the TR games (and I do) i must say that since TR2 ALL tomb raider have been VERY BAD!

I`ve played the all, and i can`t say they are good games.

In ANY place you read a review of Tomb raider they will give it low scores, why? because the games sucks!

I think that IGN and Gamespot are very kind when they give a tomb raider game a 7/10.

I`ve waited for a GOOD tr game since the 3rd, wich i think is the worst, (if you don`t believe me just read the reviews). I have VERY high hopes with AOD, and I hope to see a review above 8.5.

[XanderD2]

Originally posted by Glucolisis
I`ve waited for a GOOD tr game since the 3rd, wich i think is the worst, (if you don`t believe me just read the reviews).

Funny, I think TR3 was good. As to reading reviews, I read them, and then I play the game myself, and usually I find that some overpraised titles simply suck, while some other titles which received rather low scores are actually enjoyable.

[Mangar The Dark]

Originally posted by Frugo_PL
Lemme put it this way - TR 4 had the most and the best puzzles yet... and they say that they are lame... WTF! They didn't even TRY to compare the good improvments with the new ones!

I agree with you about TR4. That game really revived the TR series for me. I loved the original game, hated TR2, and thought the third was merely okay, but not as good as the original. Then TR4 came along and blew the others out of the water with puzzles that actually bordered on being comparable to those found in graphic adventures. Core should have gotten credit for that. The problem may be the fact that it WAS the fourth game. Imagine if TR2 and 3 didn't exist and we went straight from TR1 to TR4-- it would seem very impressive. As it was, a lot of people were already sick of the series by the time Last Revelation hit the shelves.

[moe888uk]

100% agree with you Mangar. The 1st was very good and the 4th was definitely very good. The middle two were extremely poor lazy pieces of work. I hope AOD is the 3rd good Tomb Raider game.

I dont read many reviews for games and I dont know who IGN are but them criticising the puzzles in The last revelation clearly shows they just dislike the series. Maybe Eidos or Core did something to them which no one knows and they have a grudge.

Best way to select games is through recommendations from someone you trust and your own logical reasonings. ***** reviewers, what do they know.

[Mangar The Dark]

Originally posted by moe888uk
100% agree with you Mangar. The 1st was very good and the 4th was definitely very good. The middle two were extremely poor lazy pieces of work.

OMG!!!! Someone who actually agrees with me about TR2! (last time I said anything negative about TR2, I was slammed pretty hard.) Thank you for letting me know I'm not the only one.

[DaveJ]

At the end of the day its up to you to enjoy it or not.

Do reviewers do any of your thinking for you on the matter? Hopefully not.

We can't all like the same stuff. There wouldn't be enough to go round.

[LaraAngelOfDarkness]

Tomb Raider is an adventure title plain and simple. If the game is boring to them because they have to explore and not just shoot things then they are biased reviewers. Tomb Raider to me is a game where you have to use your brain more than just your guns and fists. I believe the game will be great, thats why I never listen to reviewers.

[sbp]

I read the IGN preview also and found it reasonable.

Hey Frugo_PL, if you going to slam IGN.com, slam 'em for the ads they make you go through, old news posted and whatnot. They've really ruined a site I used to check every day.

Ok so you don't like IGN and their ratings. What happens if Gamespot gives AoD a mediocre rating? How about if Game-Revolution gives AoD a average rating? How about Game Over Online? How about Games Domain? On it goes with site after site that could be named.

There is going to be one way to find out how good AoD is...and that is when AoD comes out in 2 weeks. Then you decide for yourself.

[Glombus_freakboy]

Frankly I'd have to agree that IGN doesn't know crap about reviewing PC games, but I find their ratings of systems like GameCube and the handhelds to be about right.

*makes mental note to check the PS2 review of the game instead of the PC one*