Story Continuation

[Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames]

Not sure why this board seems to be dominated by non-US English speaking people.. first time I've seen that happen.

I can think of 2 reasons

first all the US-English speaking people have gone to the Diablo 2 forum... (not likely)
or unemployment might be higher outside USA, leaving us more time to come and tchat here.

(or we have more time at work, like mmiself)

[[SYN] Nexus]

Or only non American people are smart and you do know that only smart people like a complex game like DeusEx

Im from Belgium

[Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames]

oh, nooooo
not another nationality flamewar!!

[Lawnboy360]

Nope, just a harmless joke
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And I'm a Canadian/French hybrid! Fear me.

[Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames]

sadly, humour only works when everyone has the same, and when more than 5 persons are in the same place, we can safely assume at least one won't get the joke. (how many are we on this forum?)

[swimp]

Originally posted by Le`Sauveur`De`Ces`Dames
sadly, humour only works when everyone has the same, and when more than 5 persons are in the same place, we can safely assume at least one won't get the joke. (how many are we on this forum?)

I think the question is Why we are here? Shouldn't we be over at Ion Storm's forum!? hehe

[Lawnboy360]

Have you been to the Ion Storm boards lately? Lenghty flame-wars about features that are/aren't in DX:IW. A sample from a 14 pages long thread about the lack of location damage on the player character : http://www.ionstorm.com/forum/viewth...12110&id=18225

[swimp]

oh.

[JeffDenton]

Sorry if someone already said this because I have a lot of other posts to check out, but I read recently in PCG that the beginning of DX: IW shows the possibility of any of the endings actually occuring so as to not make you feel like you chose the wrong ending... that's a good idea if you ask me. A sort of conglomerate of the three: none completely sure of happening, but there are parts of each one.

[swimp]

One of the first game's signature features was its multiple endings, which let you confront different parts of a global conspiracy. Naturally the designers have had to pick one ending to be the basis for the next game's story, but they just won't say which one.

- GameSpot Preview

[JeffDenton]

Hmm... I'm not saying it's wrong, but when was this announced? The article I read in PCG is from this month's issue. Maybe yours is more recent. We'll just have to see when DX: IW comes out!

[Lawnboy360]

swimp's post is an assumption of the author of a preview, february 2003
What you read in PCGamer was said by a member of the DX:IW team at E3 2003 (may).
Somehow I tend to believe the later is right.

[swimp]

Oh! Thought it was a recent preview. Silly me. Sorry for the mix up.

[Lawnboy360]

You will pay for that...


Oh yes you will...

[Lexusbeat]

It seems obvious to me, but deus ex can only successfully continue from one of the three endings, the Helios one.
Obviously Alex would get destroyed in the new dark age ending.
The Illuminati ending has been discounted, in my point of view because of the fact, that Harvey Smith said in a review with hyper that JC was "...he is now the more optimal JC from a story stand point. He is going to be taking a stand ethically speaking." it would be difficult for someone who was ethically upstanding to support the Illuminati.
But i do not believe that it could follow on from the Helios plot device because of the way in EVERY preview that Eidos has published they say they say its going to be a "surprise" or "interesting" and thats what Im hoping for

P.S Hyper is an Australian/New Zealand mag dont go looking for it unless you live in NZ or Au ... or you could go to there site www.hyperactive.com.au

[UnConeD]

Hehe speculation is always fun (as opposed to mindless bashing/praising something no-one except for the dev's have played).

Some points I'd like to add:

- If they cloned JC and Alex from Paul, then they probably still had samples of DNA stowed away somewhere (e.g. Versalife). If the Alex in the pod died in the explosion-ending, then they might've just cloned him again, and named him Alex, because the original one never lived.
This might also be an explanation of why Alex can be female in DE:IW, even though the body in the pod was male .

- At the end of DE, nanotechnology has reached amazing power. Perhaps this is exaggerated in the game, but the Universal Constructor was pretty much instant and could do pretty much anything. If this technology *hadn't* been destroyed, wouldn't the world be plunged into chaos anyway, being given unlimited production capacity?

- I never quite understood how the JC+Helios ending worked. How would they 'rule the world'? Helios has merged into JC, so he longer has access to all communications right? I think this ending doesn't leave JC as a God, but rather an incredibly smart person with augmentations.

- If Area 51 was destroyed, only global communication would be destroyed. Society would be returned back to before the information revolution... not really a dark age. And with some effort, things could certainly be restored again within 10 years.


For me, any ending is really possible . In the game, I took the Helios ending...

[WSimons]

Wow that's too much to think about. I'm just going to wait and see.

[JeffDenton]

I just figured it out for SURE: They hired a writer to make a conglomerate of the three endings, to make sure no one thought they made the wrong choice of ending. Not that it matters much, 'cause we all did all three endings. Right?

[cball05]

Originally posted by JeffDenton
I just figured it out for SURE: They hired a writer to make a conglomerate of the three endings

He better be pretty darn talented - he has to have JC destroy, merge with, and control Helios all at the same time! I'm not being totally sarcastic - actually, I was thinking along these lines too. Here's an idea: early in the game, someone asks your character about Helios and you can respond in three ways, revealing how you thought the last game ended. Something like that, maybe, or something so ambiguous that we don't know what happened to Helios and we can only guess about which ending they used

[WSimons]

Yeah maybe that or perhaps we can choose which story, before the game starts, we want to continue off of.

[Mr.Tellurian]

I guess that's quite impropable. I think the major Ending was the Illuminati-take-over-MJXII-thing. At least thats what I last heard from where they want to take off and rebuild the world.
I mean let's face It, somehow JC had to decide the fate of the World in Area51. Each choice led to another World-to-come.
I don't think the endings are even close to being merged, and I don't think the developers make up 3 different plots...
I mean there never was a C&C-Sequel where NOD had won the war... Just for example...

[cball05]

Originally posted by Mr.Tellurian
I mean there never was a C&C-Sequel where NOD had won the war

Good point - I agree that the Illuminati ending is by far the most well-developed ending and includes words like "not yet" (implying a sequel) and "invisible hand" (connection to invisible war?), so if they had to choose one that would definately be it. However, let me remind you that in the C&C GDI ending you think that kane is dead but he comes back, so they do not completely stay true to the ending - they do a bit of a mix. However, I'm hoping that DX2 is a little more interesting than that. If you haven't seen the "alex controversy" thread, take a look - it shows how the destruction of Area 51 did not necessarily kill alex and could be a possibility as well.