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Old 10-09-2012, 03:07 PM
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Default Thief keybinding.

Let's see what is your actual keybinds. Now I'm going to get real fun to discover how different is reality from what I suppose.

Mine is:

Up arrow: run forward
Down arrow: move backward
Left arrow: move left
Right arrow: move right
Space: jump
Ctrl: toggle speed
Shift: walk
/ key: crouch (in TDS), hold crouch (in the other Thief games)
. key: toggle crouch (in T1/TG/T2)
Left mouse key: use weapon, throw objects (only in TDS)
Right mouse key: interact with objects and open the doors (in TDS), interact with objects, use the inventory items and open the doors (in the other Thief games)
\ key: use the inventory items (in TDS)
Backspace: clear inventory
Mousewheel clicked (or "third mouse button"): remove weaponThief
Delete: lean left
Alt Gr: block attack
Page Down: lean right
Insert: lean forward (only in T1/TG/T2)
Home: next inventory item
End: previous inventory item
Mousewheel up: next weapon
Mousewheel down: previous weapon
` key: zoom in
Tab: zoom out
Enter: objectives
M key: read maps
R key: release objects (only in T1/TG/T2)
F10: quicksave
F12: quickload

Increase and decrease gamma are disabled, and so are freelook, look up, look down, slide left and slide right.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:42 PM
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W: run forward
S: move backward
A: slide left
D: slide right
Space: jump
Ctrl: hold crouch
Shift: walk
F: toggle crouch
Left mouse key: use weapon
Right mouse key: interact
Tab: clear inventory
Z: lean left
V: block
C: lean right
X: lean forward
E: next inventory item
Q: previous inventory item
O: objectives
M: maps
R: drop item
F11: quicksave
F12: quickload
+: increase gamma
-: decrease gamma
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:54 PM
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W - WALK forward (yes, walk)
A,S,D - appropriate moving directions
Q,E - leaning
F - lean forward
X - jump/climb
LeftShift - crouch (toggle)
LeftCtrl - run (hold)
Space - creep (hold)
M1/M2 - attack/use
M3 - deselect item
Wheel Scroll - scroll through inventory
G - deselect weapon
Alt - block
Alt+W - zoom in
Alt+S - zoom out
Alt+X - reset zoom
Alt+F10 - screenshot
T - drop item
1-0 - weapons
F1-F12 - items
O - objectives
M - map
Minus - decrease gamma
Equals - increase gamma


I made same movement for Thief 3. I generally use the same key binding for tactical sims/games (SWAT3, Ghost Recon). I love realistic mechanics, hence I like tactical games, Thief is even more so unique because it utilizes realistic movement mechanics, but is a fantasy game. Well, part of why I like stealth games is that they naturally need more realistic movement mechanics.

I wish more games would have more realistic mechancis. I'm sick and tired of the same unimmersive arcade game and gameplay mechanics most games have. I'm sick of most games.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:47 PM
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W - run forward
A, D - slide sideways
S - back
Shift + W - sneak
Ctrl - hold crouch
Space - jump
Q, E - lean sideways
0 - hide weapon
1-9 - weapons
LMB - attack
RMB - open/use
/ - previous item
* - next item
V - compass
Numpad 0 - health potion
Numpad 1 - holy water
Numpad 2-3 - lockpicks
Numpad 4-9 - various tools (flashbomb, mine)
, (Hungarian keyboard) - adjust brightness
Backspace - drop item
O - objectives
M - map

In Thief 2 I always change the default Quick save/load keys to F5 and F9.
I always increas the mouse sensitivity so that I can turn around very quickly.

I almost never use zoom or lean forward. Also, I rarely use speed potions, flares, flash mines, noisemaker arrows.

Generally, I use these settings in virtually every FPS game with their various functions.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:31 PM
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W: run forward
S: move backward
A: slide left
D: slide right
Space: jump
Ctrl: hold crouch
Shift: walk
F: toggle crouch
Left mouse key: use weapon
Right mouse key: interact
Tab: clear inventory
Z: lean left
V: block
C: lean right
X: lean forward
E: next inventory item
Q: previous inventory item
O: objectives
M: maps
R: drop item
F11: quicksave
F12: quickload
+: increase gamma
-: decrease gamma
You've forgot the zoom in-zoom out

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I wish more games would have more realistic mechancis. I'm sick and tired of the same unimmersive arcade game and gameplay mechanics most games have. I'm sick of most games.
I suggest you to try Shade - Wrath Of Angels, then.

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Generally, I use these settings in virtually every FPS game with their various functions.
Me too.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:28 AM
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Code:
________T1/T2________________
W       - Run forward (100%)
Shift   - Walk modifier (50%)
S       - Slow walk forward (25%-30%)
A       - Run left
D       - Run right
X       - Run back
Space   - Jump
LMB     - Attack
RMB     - Use
MMB     - Jump/Block
      _
*      \
G       > Lean Forward
Alt+W _/
Q       - Lean left
E       - Lean right
Z       - Turn left
C       - Turn right
PgUP    - Look up
PGDn    - Look down
      _
F      \
Enter   > Toggle crouch
(num) _/
Tab     - Inventory next
Sh+Tab  - Inventory previous
Num .   - Clear Inventory
      _
Del    \
/       > Drop Item
R     _/
`       - Clear weapon
1       - Sword
2       - BlackJack
3       - Broadhead arrow
4       - Water arrow
5       - Fire arrow
6       - Moss arrow
7       - Gas arrow
8       - Rope arrow
9       - Noisemaker arrow
F1      - Healing potion
F2      - Breath potion
F3      - Holy water
F4      - 4х lockpick
F5      - 3х lockpick
F6      - Flashbomb
F7      - Gas mine
F8      - Explosive Mine
F9      - Capture Video (Fraps)
F10     - Screenshot
F11     - Qsave
F12     - QLoad
=       - Compass
Num+    - Zoom +
Num-    - Zoom -
M       - Map
O       - Objectives
 

___Additional for T3_______
S       - Forward 50% (Direct options.ini edit)
Shift   - Walk modifier 50%
Ctrl    - Creep modifier 30%
F2      - Oil flask
F7      - Gas Bomb
MMB     - Throw inventory item


Joystick for left hand:
Analog input    - movement
Trigger - Jump
D-Pad<  - Lean Left
D-Pad>  - Lean Right
D-Pad/\ - Lean Forward (Wall hug in T3)
D-Pad\/ - Toggle crouch
3-6     - Scroll weapons, scroll inventory
7-12    - map, lockpicks, zoom, etc.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:39 AM
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Am I wrong, or these are the Thief keybindings default, DJ Riff?

And what this means? O_o

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___Additional for T3_______
S - Forward 50% (Direct options.ini edit)
Shift - Walk modifier 50%
Ctrl - Creep modifier 30%
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:47 AM
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Am I wrong, or these are the Thief keybindings default, DJ Riff?
I Don't know. It's probably a mix from both T2 and T1 default bindings. I so used to copying the .BND file from one installation to another that I don't even remember what it was based on.

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And what this means? O_o
Directly from T3's options.ini:

S=MoveForwardBackward 0.500000
W=MoveForwardBackward 1.000000
X=MoveForwardBackward -1.000000

[T3Settings]
WalkMultiplier=0.5
CreepMultiplier=0.3

This allows me to walk by pressing only S button without holding Shift key. Same way you can change all movement to half-speed by default, and WalkMultiplier=1.0 will make Garrett run when Shift is pressed.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:54 AM
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W- run forward
S- walk forward
Z- strafe left
C- strafe right
X- move back
A- turn left
D- turn right
Q- lean left
E- lean right
R- drop items
Backspace- deselect items
Shift- creep
1/9- weapons
F1/F12- items
~- deselect weapon
Alt+shift+w- lean forward
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:18 PM
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I see that many of yours keep the default settings. Mines are inherited by TDS, with some practical change (like Enter for the objectives, and Delete and Page Down for leaning).
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:12 PM
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Mine are pretty standard as Thief was the first FPS game I ever owned.

W run
S walk
X walk back
Z walk left
C walk right
Q and E lean left right
D lean forward
F crouch
Space jump
Tab/Caps inventory forward and back
Mouse Wheel inventory too
Mouse Wheel Button clear inventory
Shift creep (but I hardly ever use it)
R drop item
~ clear weapon
1-9 standard weapon binds
F4 F5 picks
F6 Flash Bomb
F9 compass (any other items I scroll rather than hot key)
Alt-S save
Alt-L load
O and M objectives and map
[ and ] Zoom in out (rarely use it)
Backspace clear inventory
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:46 AM
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WASD - movement
Shift+W - run
QE - lean left/right
X - crouch
Ctrl+W - lean forward
Space - jump
Tab or Shift+Tab - browse inventory
R - drop
Alt - use
1-9 - sword blackjack arrow water fire moss gas rope noisemaker
F1-F4 - flashbomb, healing potion, holy water, lockpick
I have only one binding for the lockpicks because they're next to each other.
O - objectives
M - map
Esc - menu
PgUp PgDown - zoom
Left mouse - attack
Right mouse - block
Middle mouse - clear weapon

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:39 AM
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WASD - movement
That's the standard for those keys. I wonder how you feel, with the right hand in that part of the keyboard... I would find it uncomfortable, it's more natural using the arrow keys for the movement, imo.

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Shift+W - run
Funny, I just use the Shift key to decrease the speed, walking (I guess it's a TDS standard).

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1-9 - sword blackjack arrow water fire moss gas rope noisemaker
F1-F4 - flashbomb, healing potion, holy water, lockpick
I have only one binding for the lockpicks because they're next to each other.
I've never used these keybindings, I preferred scrolling the weapons/inventory with the mousewheel, but now, playing the Strange Bedfellows mission, I've noticed how a bind for the lockpicks would be required, because I should have the lockpicks ready to open a locked door without being caught by the beasts and reloading any time the quicksave.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:39 PM
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That's the standard for those keys. I wonder how you feel, with the right hand in that part of the keyboard... I would find it uncomfortable, it's more natural using the arrow keys for the movement, imo.
I use left hand on the keyboard. Right hand is on the mouse as it controls the camera.

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Funny, I just use the Shift key to decrease the speed, walking (I guess it's a TDS standard).
I prefer walking on default, as I'm used to moving carefully. That's becouse when I started playing I thought it would be impossible to blackjack a moving guard (could've been some TDS glitch) so I just sneaked past them, and I had to sneak almost everywhere.

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I've never used these keybindings, I preferred scrolling the weapons/inventory with the mousewheel, but now, playing the Strange Bedfellows mission, I've noticed how a bind for the lockpicks would be required, because I should have the lockpicks ready to open a locked door without being caught by the beasts and reloading any time the quicksave.
Well hotkeys are handier than scrolling through all the potions, food, keys, tools and mechanist junk.
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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I prefer walking on default.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:14 PM
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I prefer walking on default, as I'm used to moving carefully..
That should be more logical. But I was a victim of defaults too: I started with TDS, and the default bind for the W key is running, and toggling the speed with the Shift key.

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That's becouse when I started playing I thought it would be impossible to blackjack a moving guard (could've been some TDS glitch) so I just sneaked past them, and I had to sneak almost everywhere.
You too started with TDS?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:42 PM
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I hope that Thief 4 will have different control schemes, thief gold, thief 2, TDS, modern, although I'm not going to hold my breath for it. (I mean as in presets.)

Something about pressing s to move slowly and x to walk backwards I just find totally sensible. I'm sure many people don't feel this way and prefer the WASD control scheme that has become standard but I can't imagine Thief any other way.

Also I have no idea why but the * and / key on my numpad have become next and previous item. I can use the other default item switch keys but * and / feel as if you have to go out of your way to find a key, makes the game more of an adrenaline rush as a guard is creeping around the corner and you're trying to find that item you need. It's a self-imposed risk but I like it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:45 AM
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You too started with TDS?
Yeah some years ago I was a bit bored. I decided to try something different, something that would provide intellectual challenge and excitement. I had a bit earlier read The Black Knight and started wondering whether there would be any games on theft. Eventually I found the TDS demo somewhere on the internet, liked it, got the full game, played it and then I started wondering whether there would be more Thief games, and only then I found TDP and TMA.
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