What about this...

[bkbayero]

Ok, what I would like to see on the next SR Game....

All of us agreed that TUREL is needed on the game...

So what about this:

In Abhors a Paradox, we see Raziel on the spectral plane, in a new time stream made by Kain's decision to take out the reaver from raz's chest....

Imagine that Raziel recover his strength, must fight Moebius the time streamer... After devouring his souls, you get plenty of knowledge of how the time streaming devices work, so for raz's to fullfill his true destiny, he must operate a time streaming device, and that one send him back in time when he emerge from the abyss... Finding his former self, they became one, fixing the initial paradox kains create, but he must regain his former powers, so you must fight again your brethren again including TUREL, and could be the one who gave a new power....

So after that, you must then find your way to kill demonics armies, unlock again the Reaver Elemental Fonts, But this time each Font has a Guardian, Huge Hylden Demons that you must fight to acquire your new powers...

After that, you must take each power to the site beneath the Pillars. Each font could be the key to unlock the pillars, using the reaver as the key...

Any Contributions are accepted

[warpsavant]

If I play SR3 and I dont have the constrict ability and I have to go and find the FIRE ELEMENT AGAIN I will totally flip out ninja style and eat the disc.

I do not wish to travel forward in time to kill the Brethren a THIRD time. It would be cool to go there and kill Turel, but I do not wish to kill the other brethren, again.

The thing about the fonts having Guardians is cool, as long as they arent gaurding fonts we've already activated.

[bkbayero]

Excuse me , It was on the moment of gathering Ideas....

When I was referring on traveling in time, I don't mean to travel back, I was meaning traveling to a future, to kill a new brethren raised by TUREL Itself....

[bkbayero]

Or if u prefer, you must travel back in time to learn how to unlock the pillars, and return to activate them... using your new powers...

[warpsavant]

Originally posted by bkbayero
Excuse me , It was on the moment of gathering Ideas....

When I was referring on traveling in time, I don't mean to travel back, I was meaning traveling to a future, to kill a new brethren raised by TUREL Itself....

Hrmm. Well, how am I supposed to know you are talking about some brethren that are the spawn of Turel? The "brethren" are Kains sons AFAIK. But the idea of Turel Spawn sounds interesting.

[Omega One]

Originally posted by bkbayero
Imagine that Raziel recover his strength, must fight Moebius the time streamer... After devouring his souls, you get plenty of knowledge of how the time streaming devices work, so for raz's to fullfill his true destiny, he must operate a time streaming device, and that one send him back in time when he emerge from the abyss...

Kain has already killed Moebius, if Raziel kills him before Kain has the chance, it would make the events of BO1 irrelevent, and I don't think CD are willing to let that happen...

Meeting Raziel prior to his execution? Are you mad?! We've already met one former Raziel and things didn't go quite as planned

If I play SR3 and I dont have the constrict ability and I have to go and find the FIRE ELEMENT AGAIN I will totally flip out ninja style and eat the disc.

I'll go one better and shape the disk with my teeth into a chinese throwing star

Unlock the Pillars? Again, are you mad?! Release the Hylden?!

[warpsavant]

I wonder what would happen if Vampire Raziel killed the SR Raziel....

[bkbayero]

But if you analyze omega one the ending on SR2, it seems that the terrible mistake Kain does altering history, was in fact something related to the hylden (May be they were released by this terrible mistake on history)....

What if the Pillars were not intended to imprison the hylden... What if the Pillars were meant to Erradicate the Hylden...

[Omega One]

Impossible! SR Raziel "... is beyond death."

[Vampmaster]

Agreed about constrict and the fire forge. Amy said Raziel would begin with everything he had in SR1 and he didn't. I wasn't really bothered about the spells from SR1, because they wern't really a part of the story. If constrict makes it too easy, then they could just do the same as they did with the Reaver and change it for something else later in the game. This could be explained by saying that Raziel's abilities are evolving and become dormant for a time when they're about to change. They could also let us turn it back on as a reward for completing the game.

I think that the pillars are unlocked already and the key is needed to unlock them. (I think the reaver might cause them to be rebuilt and uncorruptable. Maybe the blood curse will be cured as well, allowing vampire guardians to be born as well.) I also think that the evil hylden we saw in BO2 were just a misled faction of their race like the sarafan were of humans. I think the ancient's may have made the mistake of not being able to tell the difference and that may have caused part of their problems.

[Rook]

Originally posted by bkbayero
But if you analyze omega one the ending on SR2, it seems that the terrible mistake Kain does altering history, was in fact something related to the hylden (May be they were released by this terrible mistake on history)....

"My God, the Hylden. We walked right into their trap." --Kain, of course

I'm still dabbling with the idea that the they that Kain refers to might not be the Hylden. Maybe I'm disecting it a little too much, but it sounds as if it could be a reference to either the Hylden or some other unforeseen enemy.

I seriously doubt it, but it is a thought...

[keepittrue]

Actually Rook I agree, I have thought the same thing but then again.......