Lara's new look & body

[Christie Luv]

Originally Posted by Ants_27_

True, but do we need to get this across anymore? I mean, Woman are accepted (in most cases) to be as equal to men -- I and my mates have never doubted that as we've all be predominately raised by female figures. Back then I think having Lara prove that woman can doing anything equal was needed but not so much now, as for me there is no real stereotype to break anymore.

You made lots of good points, and I think here we may have differences in culture. Since you live in the UK, and I live in Texas. I do see that more often where I live. We have a lot of conservative christians here trying to make this the 1950's again.

[Mick2412]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

But we KNOW that's just not the case for Lara. She's got intelligence, wit, charm, culture, courage, dedication, grace, and sophistication going for her as well. Those other qualities shouldn't be diminished by sex appeal, and the sex appeal doesn't have to exclude the other.

It doesn't have to be that a woman can only be hot or strong/intelligent, just one or the other, when it can easily be BOTH, which always makes for the more compelling character.

It's the combination of BOTH physical sexiness and her personality/attitude that makes Lara so attractive. If either weaken too much then lots of Lara's appeal is lost. Things like wit, courage and intellegence do add so much towards Lara's sexiness. It is though undenyable that Lara's curves count towards it too. To show other sides to Lara you don't have to take away her sexuality and incorporating sexuality properly and in a tasteful way really enriches the character.

Originally Posted by Driber

I just think that we should not forget ourselves. We all have "animal"instincts which makes us attracted to physical beauty. I read earlier that "boys will always prefer boobs". Yeah, so, what's wrong with that?

Ladies also drool over guy hunks. While I'd probably go like "ack" (picture finger stuck half-way into mouth), they have every right to and I wouldn't discourage them from doing so.

I appreciate both beauty and brains. It's nonsense to deliberately suppress one of those just because it's PC.

Think you are spot on with what you are saying Driber and love your frankness on the issue.

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

We're arguing whether or not Lara should have big boobs or not. A girl can be pig-ugly but still have massive boobs or tiny boobs so beauty is completely irrelevant to the debate.

For me supporting a more curvy figure is supporting Lara's look built up over 15 years. What do you have so much against larger breasts?

[Elliot Kane]

The issue, to me, is not actually one of breast size at all. It's about what we each think Lara looks like and how much we think that should be deviated from.

Lara has always had brown hair, brown eyes and a certain body shape that has been refined from 'cartoon' to 'more real' over the years, without ever sacrificing that essential curvaceousness.

If new character 'Sara Croft' is a blue eyed blonde with small boobs and a generally stocky build, no-one will care. She'd be a new character and that'd be that.

If Lara were to be re-imagined as a blue eyed blonde with small boobs and a generally stocky build, however, none of us would be happy, would be? Because we all know what Lara looks like, and that's not her.

As others have said, the issue is not one of beauty or sexiness or anything like that. It is simply that whatever else is changed for the new games, Lara needs to look like Lara.

[Driber]

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

No one is saying anything bad about beauty. Even all the girls (from what I know) want Lara to be beautiful. We're arguing whether or not Lara should have big boobs or not. A girl can be pig-ugly but still have massive boobs or tiny boobs so beauty is completely irrelevant to the debate.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_C

I agree with LadyRufina, boobs are not the criteria for beauty ! A lot of models have tiny boobs, and some have brains too. Angela Merkel have big boobs and brains. And according to you, boobs = beauty ?

Perhaps "beauty" was a slightly wrong choice of words in that particular sentence if you really want to be nit-picky

I meant the issue at hand - sex appeal / physical sexiness.

I thought the gist of my post made that clear already

[LadyRufina]

Originally Posted by Driber

Perhaps "beauty" was a slightly wrong choice of words in that particular sentence if you really want to be nit-picky

I meant the issue at hand - sex appeal / physical sexiness.

I thought the gist of my post made that clear already

If ya wanna be nit-picky you gotta take nit-picky

[Driber]

Alright all ya boob & sex appeal loving guys out there, I have just received official confirmation that CD is going to reboot this reboot. To cater to people's wishes, the new TR game has been completely scrapped and they are going to continue the story as a whole new franchise and seriously sex her up, to please the male fan base.

[Ants_27_]

Originally Posted by Christie Luv

You made lots of good points, and I think here we may have differences in culture. Since you live in the UK, and I live in Texas. I do see that more often where I live. We have a lot of conservative christians here trying to make this the 1950's again.

Actually, I forgot that all countries and cultures don't have the same views so ta for bringing that up.

And yeah, I suppose the UK isn't that bad of a place, considering. I mean nearly everything is accepted over here; the idea of being Gay (where in some countries they arrest people for it) and I genuinely completely forgot that in some countries and cultures as well, they aren't as lenient (want of better word) to allow women to be equal to men...

Therefore I guess there is still that 'stereotype' to break... just not so much in places like the UK.

But I guess they don't really need overly sex her up... but I also think I'm on a way different track to everyone in here!

@Driber - C'mon that's not a real game... is it?

[LARALOVERnr.1]

Originally Posted by Ants_27_

@Driber - C'mon that's not a real game... is it?

Apparantly, it is... :S

[Ants_27_]

Originally Posted by LARALOVERnr.1

Apparantly, it is... :S

Well I want....

In a kind of Macho analysis kinda thing.

Nah I think I could live without.

[Driber]

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

@Driber - C'mon that's not a real game... is it?

Not only is it very real....take a look at who the publisher is

[d1n0_xD]

Originally Posted by Driber

Not only is it very real....take a look at who the publisher is

Well, I'll be damned

[Ants_27_]

Originally Posted by Driber

Not only is it very real....take a look at who the publisher is

That is... brilliant.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

I don't get it? :S

[Lara_Fan_84]

See from a female point of view, playing as a male video game character, I'm not out to hope or make sure the guy I'm playing as is shirtless and super muscular to the point where you have to wonder if those muscles aren't photoshopped. I know the character is animated but I hope you get my point. I focus on the character and not necessarily the sex appeal.

[Elliot Kane]

So Blonde is actually a very good game, though it has some drawbacks here and there.

I actually wrote a fairly detailed review of it, once, should anyone be interested.

Months afterwards, what I mainly remember is how much I enjoyed it rather than any annoyances, though, which has to be a good thing.

[Ants_27_]

Originally Posted by Elliot Kane

So Blonde is actually a very good game, though it has some drawbacks here and there.

Maybe I'll have a go one day, I like a good old Point 'n click game... malways loved Broken Sword.

Originally Posted by Lara_Fan_84

See from a female point of view, playing as a male video game character, I'm not out to hope or make sure the guy I'm playing as is shirtless and super muscular to the point where you have to wonder if those muscles aren't photoshopped. I know the character is animated but I hope you get my point. I focus on the character and not necessarily the sex appeal.

You mean like Mr redfield who went from:
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...s-redfield.jpg
TO:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...819793zq8.png/

[LARALOVERnr.1]

^
Lol :P I kinda liked it. Never really liked the old Chris, but I thought he was okay in RE5.

Though Jill totally kicked his ass

[hiMe]

First Chris Redfield looks much cuter imo

I like any character as long as they've been well thought out. And as for smexifying males, I don't really see male characters as "ooooh, I'd do him if he were real". Honestly. (e.g. Nathan Drake doesn't appeal to me. Neither does Altair or the Prince from Prince of persia.) Then again it's always more appealing to the eye to have a beautiful character to play as, especially if you're staring at their backside the entire time. So fantasy beautiful clothes, or beautiful characters usually pull it off.

[Elliot Kane]

Originally Posted by Ants_27_

Maybe I'll have a go one day, I like a good old Point 'n click game... malways loved Broken Sword.

Same here. My favourite Adventure Game series, in fact

Annoyed at the company for the mess over the last one that only works on single core computers, though...

You mean like Mr redfield who went from:
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...s-redfield.jpg
TO:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...819793zq8.png/

Woah! That guy's been hitting the weights a bit! And the steroids... !!!

[Elliot Kane]

Ultimate team-up! Just sayin'

[LadyRufina]

Originally Posted by Ants_27_

You mean like Mr redfield who went from:
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...s-redfield.jpg
TO:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...819793zq8.png/

I'm not joking I actually prefer him in the first picture, he looks cute and not too muscular. In RE5 he looked too muscular imo.

[Ants_27_]

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

I'm not joking I actually prefer him in the first picture, he looks cute and not too muscular. In RE5 he looked too muscular imo.

Yeah. Although Capcom, from what I've heard didn't make him 'sexier' to appeal to anyone, it's just the perceived view that the Japanese (or around that region of our brilliant world) see all the Western folk as being that... yeah I bet some will be disappointed if they come to visit. So unlike Lara, I guess it's a different case.

You've got Lara that if she's sexed up it's usually more deliberate to acquire the eye of us males whereas Capcoms decision was based more on a stereotype I suppose. But I guess it's all the same thing.

@Elliot Kane - I think there'd be a few blokes that wouldn't mind his secret, ha.

@LARALOVERnr.1 - Jill did steal the show, although to fit in with this discussion they changed Jill a bit... so in Lara's case I guess it was inevitable:
http://ui22.gamespot.com/949/jillremake_2.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...69-344-335.jpg

[LARALOVERnr.1]

@Ants
Well, they made her blonde, but other than that, I don't think they changed her that much, other than her outfit.

Although...

(click image to enlarge)
They did make her Wesker's *... :P

EDIT: Oh wait, this is still the Lara's Body thread. Right... :P

Last comment: She looks great, with or without watermelons.

[Ants_27_]

At least I'm trying to stay on subject, so no one can shout... well they could I just probably wouldn't notice.

[WinterSoldier]

Bloody hell, tricky to keep up with this convo.