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[Drazar]

Originally Posted by Batman The Trailer Hunter

Hopfully this means trailer soon!

Teaser trailer is likely to be included in TDK Rises, will it show any footage however? Time will tell.

Originally Posted by batfan08

I don't know what to think of "Beware the Batman." I understand the need to give people something different in terms of villains, and even giving some other villains a chance, but when I hear:" Gotham City’s criminal underworld led by the likes of Anarky, Professor Pyg, Mister Toad and Magpie, " I laugh out loud. Seriously? Out of all of Batman's rogues gallery, even the C-F listers, they couldn't do better than Magpie!?! Also, this show will fail without Professor Pyg's sexy dance, just sayin'.

I don't know why you're nitpicking considering every Batman show (well maybe not The Batman, ugh) has made you interested or a fan of a previously rather unknown villain/hero, so why can't the show do the same here?

Originally Posted by Old_BenKenobi

Aquaman #7 failed to wow me I'm afraid. Ivan Reis just isn't a very good storyteller, his stuff is very all over the place. Maybe its a result of Geoff Johns saying he wants every panel to function like a single page due to how tablets show comics, who knows?

Good point, shame you didn't like it.

Originally Posted by Old_BenKenobi

All I know is DD kicked ass this week and that Paolo Rivera is a freakin master.

Mmmhm. Not to mention Mark Waid is finally getting Daredeivl to fight some bigger foes with the evil organizations returning + Dr. Doom Latveria plot.

Wrath of the Titans Rant:
I don’t know how to start this, for a lot of people including myself the Clash of the Titans remake was a disappointing movie that showed typical Hollywood dumbness with its plot, pacing and ending to the movie, while obviously having a huge budget to give that epic Greek mythology feeling that has enthralled the audience since Jason & the Argonauts. This movie still has the dumb plot, the weird pacing, the epic feeling, but quite sadly I do feel the awfulness of the 3rd act and the ending to this movie may make the 1st movie a more enjoyable experience, now the action, the designs and whole general plot outline is much more better here, but the last 20 minutes seemed so rushed, not to mention they don’t even care about the plot they themselves tell, such as God’s losing their powers because humans aren’t worshipping them anymore, but when you see the final battles, this is completely irrelevant.

Speaking of the Gods, they don’t even have any Gods in this movie outside Zeus, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Hades and Ares, that’s it! Poseidon decides to explain the gods have somehow vanished, so yeah they just left the movie behind the scenes. Also no one of the supporting characters (outside of 1 character, new actress) return from the 1st movie. Perseus’ quest to save the world is joined by Aregor, the son of Poseidon! (Played Toby Kebbell) He is the comedic scavenger mischief & the other hero to join Perseus is Andromeda, the young princess from the 1st movie who is now the warrior Queen of Argon. (Played by Rosamund Pike) I liked her character a lot as well, she was pretty much Xena the Warrior Princess, but sadly even she suffers from Hollywood clichés as she and Perseus must share feelings towards each other at the very end of the movie! Which reminds me, at the end of the 1st movie the love interest dies, but Zeus decides to resurrect her for Perseus (not his family included, which is what motivated Perseus to begin with in the 1st movie) now the 2nd movie literally starts with us learning it has been about 10-15 years since the 1st movie, the 1st love interest has died again, but Zeus decided to let this one slip by, despite seemingly having grown such huge fondness to Perseus,

My biggest disappointment from the movie comes from the fact I feel lied towards to, the trailers and the title imply Titans, but there truly is no other Titan in this movie besides Kronos. The marketing made me feel that the Minotaur, Cyclops, Chimaera & Makhai we’re Titan level monsters, but nope, they’re simply different variety of monsters, which is disappointing since I was assuming this was about Gods & Demi Gods against the Titans.

Now what makes this movie such a big pile of crap? Why is the darker, edgier but far more action themed and better plot outlined movie ultimately more crap than the 1st? Well here are the spoilers on the 3rd act: Practically everything is tied down in such a rushed way, heroes die left and right, plot points are completely irrelevant and it all boils down how cliché everything was, it felt like this was the 1st draft of a script that didn’t receive any ironing whatsoever. It’s just such a shame because the general idea with the movie was really cool, but so was the original envision with Clash of the Titans having Zeus as the main villain, and to be honest with how crap this movie was, it sort of made me appreciate Immortals a bit more, a movie I absolutely despised seeing in the theater.

If you really want to see this, just wait for the Blu-ray, just be prepared for a disappointment.

Carey Mulligan to star in Refn's Sex Thriller: I Walk with the Dead

I’ve always wanted to make a movie with lots of sex,” he told us at the time. “So I wrote this story called, ‘I Walk With the Dead’ and it takes place in Miami and it’s just going to have a lot of sex in it. I have two films that are getting made with French investors and one is ‘Only God Forgives’ and one is ‘I Walk With the Dead.’ ”

Shot from Only God Forgives:

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

I would say Wraith of the Titans was slightly Better than the first one (I kinda like the whole brothers/family theme) but not as good as Immortals.


Which really isnt saying much



P.S. Wow im a Moderator....what a terrible April Fools joke...

[A Dark Knight]

Um, how am I suddenly a moderator as well? Wait a minute...

Is this really your guys' idea of a good April Fools joke? Really?

[batfan08]

I'm not nitpicking, but I do get a little itchy when I hear that Magpie is being tauted as one of Gotham's Criminal Elite, but I digress, I will wait until I see the show before I form any theories or opinions. Anyone here watch Justified?

[A Dark Knight]

What's that about?

[Drazar]

My thoughts on Ultimate Spider-Man:

What i liked:
+ The animation and characters
+ the Voice acting from everyone! Yes everyone!
+ Norman's motivations are very Ultimate, i mean, why should he be a petty crime lord of New York city in a world full of superheroes, when he can become more powerful and dangerous thru legal ways and become untouchable by the heroes without them crossing some "Big Brother" border.
+ Aunt May
+ The humor, dear lord was it campy. <3
+ The music

What i disliked:
- The blatant commercialism of the Spider-Bike & his improved weapon gadget, both received way too much introduction and focus to ensure Disney would have animated and voiced clips in prepared for the toys. Really disappointing to see Paul Dini himself getting involved in this, for shame brother! I mean we got episode 4 with Iron Spider going on, c'mon now obvious toy additions. <__> This is like having Wally West ride a motorcycle.

Mixed Feelings:
I loved Drake Bell's narration and introducing villains, heroes and characters to the audience, but at the same time some of the things we're too much "tell, not show" and thats abit bleh.

[A Dark Knight]

Eh, they should have just kept Spectacular Spiderman.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Speaking of Spiderman...

[A Dark Knight]

Those were interesting. Last one reminds me of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

New Leaked Trophies for Arkham City DLC

[A Dark Knight]

Finally! That'll be what I buy next after I complete Mass Effect 3.

[batfan08]

Awesome! Can't wait!

[Old_BenKenobi]

Its funny how so many of the same fanboys who whined nonstop about Spidey not being a smartass are now complaining about the ASM clip of Spidey being a smartass, just because its the "wrong" kind of smartass.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Originally Posted by Old_BenKenobi

Its funny how so many of the same fanboys who whined nonstop about Spidey not being a smartass are now complaining about the ASM clip of Spidey being a smartass, just because its the "wrong" kind of smartass.

I think its perfect...albeit a little immature, but thats all about growing up!

[A Dark Knight]

Haha, the "wrong" kind of smartass? Seemed fine to me. Still something a bit off, but I'll wait to see how it all coalesces in the film. Clips can be deceiving.

[Old_BenKenobi]

Originally Posted by Batman The Trailer Hunter

I think its perfect...albeit a little immature, but thats all about growing up!

The complaints are about him just being mean instead of being funny and about him taunting the guy after hes tied up. They're saying hes a bully. Bullying a knife-wielding thug...

[The Hylden]

It would help if those clips were in better quality, especially the sound. But yeah; early cockiness that will probably mature, when he realizes with great power comes great responsibility

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Avengers Soundtrack

[Old_BenKenobi]

Gotta love that jiggle.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

Originally Posted by Old_BenKenobi

Gotta love that jiggle.

http://www.dacritics.org/2012/04/rea...johansson.html

[A Dark Knight]

Well, I got 100% Galactic Readiness for ME3. Now to actually beat the game...

Jeremy Carver is returning to Supernatural as showrunner! Sera Gamble won't be missed. While I've enjoyed season 7, season 6 was probably the weakest of the show. Still great, yes, but more mixed. Sure, she seems to be getting better with the current season, but I'm not waiting another whole season for her to hit her stride. Welcome back Carver!

[Drazar]

Originally Posted by Batman The Trailer Hunter

New Leaked Trophies for Arkham City DLC

Here's hoping it's good and well priced.

Originally Posted by Old_BenKenobi

Its funny how so many of the same fanboys who whined nonstop about Spidey not being a smartass are now complaining about the ASM clip of Spidey being a smartass, just because its the "wrong" kind of smartass.

Tell me about it!

Originally Posted by Batman The Trailer Hunter

Heh.

Hunger Games Review

The Hunger Games is a teen action movie set in a dystopian future that acts as a commentary of today’s society, specifically the Occupy Wall Street movement with the poor (99%) against the rich (1%) alongside today’s pop culture sensation with reality television where people compete against others for fame & riches. The nation Panem has twelve districts, with the first two being the utter rich and the rest becoming more middle class to ultimately the very poor where people are forced to hunt squirrels and berries for mere survival. The Hunger Games itself is a gladiator survival match where two people (male & woman) are randomly picked from each district into the battle zone and only one may leave it alive.

Our protagonist Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) hails from the utter poor district 12 as the symbolic figure of the 99% alongside with Robin Hood symbolism her weapon of choice the bow & arrow. She is a survivor, beautiful, wise and utterly pure, nothing is wrong with her and the poor people as they are the heroes, they are the ones the audience has to root and cheer for, only the poor receive any positive light whatsoever in this film.

What about the rich then? The fashion for the rich is not any commentary on today’s fashion, but it seems to be very Lady Gaga inspired with people going over the top colors and crazy make up, it felt like the 1960s when color televisions became mainstreamed and people started wearing bright colors to show their clothing off instead of the bland grey and white. However the main point about the rich (or well, the evil 1% Wall Street people) is that they have no redeeming qualities. The rich are selfish, amoral, cruel and absolutely corrupt, some are even flat out insane, but the movie represents not a single good willed person, but simply that the rich are evil and the poor are good. Am I supposed to take this seriously? How one sighted and utterly pessimistic view is this?

As for the movie itself, it is two and half hour long and well for me, with all this positive reviews it has received alongside become a huge box office hit in the world, I really was expecting more and found myself very disappointed because of the latter half of the movie. The movie is very character driven and while the movie does not carry Katniss’ thoughts thru inner monologue, the fantastic performance of Lawrence shows great lengths of talent as her mere face tells us everything we need, with the orchestral soundtrack by the talented James Newton Howard, you have a great tools of displaying the emotional core of the money, but sadly it does become unintentionally laughable how blandly forced the “poor are noble, good and pure with rich being corrupt, evil and amoral”.

Now the actual Hunger Games doesn’t begin until the latter half and the director Gary Ross is clearly new to the action films genre and sadly does the worst possible decision with the movie, very closed up shaky camera scenes instead of clear wide and visually stunning action. It’s hard to be scared or cheer for the leading protagonist when it’s impossible to tell who actually is winning. I also found it incredibly bland how the game could be determined if you had “sponsors” or got killed by additional foes send by the game master, I mean image if Idol had elements like fan favorite singer getting special treatments or while during a song performance you also had to multi-task other elements? I just found that incredibly lame.

Overall, like I said I was disappointed. Its start off incredibly well with a very character driven emotional story that simply turns into a rich vs. poor commentary and to make it worse, there is no real big payoff to this movie, just a big hook for the sequel. You can’t end a movie with no real closure outside of hyping out the inevitable sequel. Also to explain a little, the reason these rich vs. poor commentaries are really stupid, is that they don’t offer any real alternate options outside of this very romanced ideal of a modern day Robin Hood. “In Time” movie had the very same problem with the protagonists just stealing from the rich to the poor in a very optimistic (and somehow successful light) and even Michael Moore’s “Capitalism: A Love Story” doesn’t offer any strong arguments how to fix today’s economic problems. You just get these “yeah a civil war against the rich and the poor, the poor will win and thus create utopia” is just so far reached.

We Need to Talk About Kevin Review

This movie makes you want to talk, think and feel towards its subject, which is wonderful, after all movies are made for entertainment and for me, there is a lot of great entertainment from receiving insight, seeing good performance, a very good soundtrack and a subject very fitting for today’s society: School shootings. Based off a 2003 book, it’s still very relevant and the only thing missing from today’s society would be the social network with Twitter & Facebook becoming so mainstream & important to youth culture.

Eva Khatchadourian (Tilda Swinton) is a famous world traveling journalist and the mother of a teenager who became a school shooter at the age of 16, killing multiple students and causing permanent damages to some, now set in prison for life. What caused this? Was it awful parenting? Was there something always wrong? Is it today’s society? What makes a person decide he wants to kill people at his’ or hers’ school?

The movie has a non-chronological story telling format and jumps from scene to scene on different time periods from before Kevin entered Eva’s life, Kevin’s early years as a child, days before the shootings and years after the shootings. It creates this whole big character arc for both Eva and Kevin. (Who is played by multiple actors)

To talk further about the plot would be spoiling things, so I’ll leave it with this: Tilda Swinton’s performance is pure entertainment, the damage is there, her joy in the past is clear and her role as a mother is the toughest thing she has endured in her entire life, her guilt, her questions and her attempt at a normal life is dramatic. The story telling is interesting and really works out, but the 2nd act of the movie is just really long as the movie begins to heavily focus on the days before the shooting, thus leaving act 3 very short and not packing a punch. The music enhances the scenes with clever usage of songs such as “Everyday” by Buddy Holly & “Mother’s last word to her Son”. It’s a very entertaining movie that makes you want to think and talk about the subject, because it is very real and it is still happening.

To me, I feel situations like Kevin could possibly be avoided if parents and society in general would feel more welcomed to going to shrinks or some family group meetings to truly talk about feelings and possible troubles, ethical questions and so forth.

So the gamers actually won againts Bioware, oh my.

This might simply get the fans cocky, but the sheer determination is worth admiring especially the amount of money used towards it. Still makes you ponder how this effects Bioware's future games.

[A Dark Knight]

Well, I just beat the game myself today and the end was... interesting. It was fine, but it's true that it has no real closure and leaves way too much up to the player's imagination for a game series built on choices and the consequences of those choices. Still an incredible game in its own right, and now one of my favorite of all time.

[Batman The Trailer Hunter]

So the gamers actually won againts Bioware, oh my.

This might simply get the fans cocky, but the sheer determination is worth admiring especially the amount of money used towards it. Still makes you ponder how this effects Bioware's future games

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Not really, they ignored 90% of what we asked and basically denied the criticism and went and did something so the casual fans who are disappointed would go away but the hardcore fans are still unsatisfied. We shall see what they have in stored. But from what i can tell they are just going to raise more questions and produce more plot-holes if they try to expand the crappy ending.



Pretty much how EA/Bioware deals with their fans

BioWare: Every ending MUST end with the galaxy blowing up in an R/G/B explosion.

Fans: What? You mean you just ignored all our choices throughout all three games?

BioWare: .... NO

Fans: But what about an internally consistent conclusion, or preserving themes explored throughout all three--

BioWare: IT IS NOT A THING YOU CAN COMPREHEND

Fans: Look, we don't want a "happy" ending, just one that makes se--

BioWare: IT IS NOT A THING YOU CAN COMPREHEND

Fans: It is!

BioWare: NO. NO. NO.

Originally Posted by A Dark Knight

Well, I just beat the game myself today and the end was... interesting. It was fine, but it's true that it has no real closure and leaves way too much up to the player's imagination for a game series built on choices and the consequences of those choices. Still an incredible game in its own right, and now one of my favorite of all time.

The game is awesome, definitely top 5 of the decade. But the ending is terrible. Especially from an artistic standpoint



^^^ That is how Bioware should do with the DLC cutscenes. Make the Indoctrination theory a reality, instead of bullcrapping the hardcore fans with dumbarse endings

[A Dark Knight]

Terrible is a strong word. Confusing and somewhat unsatisfying? Yes. But not terrible. That's over-exaggerating a bit IMO. Like I said, I wasn't enraged by the endings and I'm completely satisfied with the game as a whole.

Also, that whole argument that each ending is just a different color is borderline idiotic. The decisions are so radically different that the ramifications would also be very different. Problem being that the ramifications aren't explored, thereby making the endings look the same when they are, in fact, distinctive.

Overall, I'm happy that they're fleshing out the existing endings in Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut rather than changing them altogether, thereby keeping to their vision while still satisfying the fans with more explanation as to what the hell actually happened during and after the ending(s).