Lara's love interest?

[RosePetals]

I'm a full-fledged Kurtis Trent fan girl, but personally I don't like the idea of Lara being in love (even if it is with a hot ex-Legionnaire with psychic powers). It's just not her. And it doesn't fit the whole Tomb Raider concept of lonely relic-searching, butt-kicking, free-falling adventures. She's a strong woman who always keeps people she cares for at an arms length, so I doubt she'd be into anything serious romance-wise.

Sure, if she were to fall in love, it'd make her more human, but the thing is, Lara Croft isn't human (and we have to accept that). She's a legendary video game icon. Yeah, I guess the upcoming new game makes her more realistic and believable as a person, but yeah, she'd still be a superhuman, right?

But who knows?

[LC is Me]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

And I wanted to touch again on the position that several people have taken; that the love interest element can only work as an RPG mechanic.

WHY?????

Hell, can't stand love in RPGs.
But it's more tolerable because that's expected of RPGs.

[QiX]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

And I wanted to touch again on the position that several people have taken; that the love interest element can only work as an RPG mechanic.

WHY?????

Because a linear story line don't leave space for choice, and the vast majority of the players are simply not interested in another relationship drama in the series. So here comes the usefulness of the RPG mechanic: if they come with another stupid Kurtis Trent at least give us the option to leave him talking to the hand while we simply go and explore yet another temple in ruins.

[Cheese is nice.]

Originally Posted by QiX

Because a linear story line don't leave space for choice, and the vast majority of the players are simply not interested in another relationship drama in the series. So here comes the usefulness of the RPG mechanic: if they come with another stupid Kurtis Trent at least give us the option to leave him talking to the hand while we simply go and explore yet another temple in ruins.

This. However I disagree with making Tomb Raider an RPG. It's never been one and I sure as hell do NOT want to see it become one.

[adobeARTIST]

Ummm, guys, you only partially quoted me. And the main reason I bring that up is because in the full post (previous page) I addressed the nature of love interests in linear story games where player choice isn't implemented.

[LC is Me]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

Ummm, guys, you only partially quoted me. And the main reason I bring that up is because in the full post (previous page) I addressed the nature of love interests in linear story games where player choice isn't implemented.

Too bad there was only one point in the entire post I wanted to focus on.
Because in some way or another, what you said in the entire post, you've already said, I've already responded to, and you are still going to think what you want to think. Which is ok.
But I won't make a chore out of circular debate.

[Lyle Croft]

Originally Posted by Kami

Maybe their idea of making her more human is giving her a love interest? I just wish they manage to avoid cliches if they go with it.

This guy in front of Conrad seems inmortant. ANd he seems to know what he is talking about when pointing at the map. SO he has to be an archaeologist too. And he is young. Could be a love interest. The reason why I am saying this is that he really reminds of Chase Carver from the TR comic books, who is this TR who had past with Lara.




He especially looks like Chase Carver drawn by Joe Jusko
http://i.livescience.com/images/Jusko3-03.jpg

NO laras love should be a forbidden love like Conrad? i think

[QiX]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

Ummm, guys, you only partially quoted me. And the main reason I bring that up is because in the full post (previous page) I addressed the nature of love interests in linear story games where player choice isn't implemented.

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

And I wanted to touch again on the position that several people have taken; that the love interest element can only work as an RPG mechanic.

WHY?????

You speak about it like it's never been done in traditional scripted and linear story driven games before. I mean does the fact that Ezio, Solid Snake, Alan Wake, Sam Fisher (formerly married), Prince of Persia, Spiderman or numerous other pre-defined characters have or had a love interest, in any way ruins their characterization or the gaming experience?

In those non-RPG games you don't have the option to direct them on a path of solitude as you see fit. So does that make the game unplayable? Are you nay-sayers screaming at your screens, "no no no no [main character], don't go with her/him, that's totally wrong!!" ??

And I can show you my gamercard, I have very thoroughly played Mass Effect and Dragon Age series. yes, I do get the appeal in being able to develop the relationship as you choose to. But the reason you have that control in RPGs, what makes them RPGs in the first place, is that your are playing your own character creation. So of course they can be developed in which ever direction you desire, they have always been in your hands as what makes that type of gameplay.



Not the case with Lara. She is not your own creation, any more than Ezio or any of those afformentioned characters. They're the creations of the their respective develpers and as such, they're character development relies on the scripting provided. And I would say that in what has become very cinematic story driven games, it benefits the audience much more to have the most comprehensive & detailed characterization possible. Not just in romance but all facets of the person's background which would successfully bring to life a genuinely believable human being. The goal of all fictions.

Ezio, Solid Snake, Alan Wake, Sam Fisher, Prince of Persia... I couldn't care less about any of them actually. Maybe my lack of sympathy for them has something to do with them pushing soap opera elements down the player's throat, but there's more to it than just that. Actually most of them didn't even appeal to my interest enough for me to buy their games and get to play them. Except for Prince of Persia which I actually played a bit I didn't even know these games had romantic subplots. My point goes deeper to the character's conception.

Building a game character is easy, making him/her/it charismatic and interesting as a character is not. The odds are about the same as a winning lottery card being hit by a meteorite, tending to zero. Despite the fact that Ezio, Solid Snake, Alan Wake, Sam Fisher and Prince of Persia are the protagonists in awesome games they all seem shallow and unappealling to me. They fail epicly to hold my interest, even if their games are actually quite good. Lara is the opposite, specially the "new" Lara, so to speak. Even if I have no idea on how the new game will be, the character conception has something intriguing, compelling. Something clicks in my head and makes me want to buy the game right on the release day and play it all slowly, taking weeks or months to explore every little inch of the place and the story.

I don't say you need RPG mechanics for romantic plots work in a game, but to make it work in a linear story like TR would be like shooting flying bats in the head while blindfolded. To come with just one male character and expect the players to like him will simply not work. See by this thread, most of the fans hated the idea, people will whine all over the planet if they do it this way. As a marketing decision it would be too unpopular to be actually considered. Gaming companies don't bet their money just like that. It would be a fiasco, it's not going to happen.

[Christie Luv]

I'd like to see a lesbian love interest, but maybe that's me because I'd definitely picture myself as the other girl hehe. *love sigh*

[Lyle Croft]

Originally Posted by RosePetals

I'm a full-fledged Kurtis Trent fan girl, but personally I don't like the idea of Lara being love (even if it is with a hot ex-Legionnaire with psychic powers). It's just not her. And it doesn't fit the whole Tomb Raider concept of lonely relic-searching, butt-kicking, free-falling adventures. She's a strong woman who always keeps people she cares for at an arms length, so I doubt she'd be into anything serious romance-wise.

Sure, if she were to fall in love, it'd make her more human, but the thing is, Lara Croft isn't human (and we have to accept that). She's a legendary video game icon. Yeah, I guess the upcoming new game makes her more realistic and believable as a person, but yeah, she'd still be a superhuman, right?

But who knows?

she IS superhuman whenever you kill her she comes back to life unless since this game IS more real we would watch a computer screen for 5 years and watch Lara's virtual dead body rot...

[Hoodedclaw]

I hate the idea of a man in her life lol. But...................................................

Uncharted fans read on............................. If she had a relashionship like Chloe & Nate welll that would be good because at the end they could split up just like the game !!!! x

[adobeARTIST]

Originally Posted by Hoodedclaw

I hate the idea of a man in her life lol. But...................................................

Uncharted fans read on............................. If she had a relashionship like Chloe & Nate welll that would be good because at the end they could split up just like the game !!!! x

While you're generally against, I appreciate you still keeping an open mind

[Charlie.T.Raider]

I miss Kurtis. Couldn't they bring him back? He fit well with Lara.

[mrskurtistrent]

Originally Posted by Charlie.T.Raider

I miss Kurtis. Couldn't they bring him back? He fit well with Lara.

* tear* i wish they could atleast bring him in an upcoming game, or like some want ( like me) make a sequel to the angel of darkness! And bring karel back too for some more action! I thought playing him in the game was an interesting touch, i prefer lara still, but him as a character was awesome!

If TR9 doesnt turn out well like planned, i think as a reboot they should bring back the AoD story. But how rare that would be. That would be the day i discovered what is behind that door in Kameo: elements of power

[WinterSoldier]

I'm up for Lara having a love interest. But I agree w/ a few people above: He (or she) would have to die. Not because of a "What?! Lara CAN'T fall in love!" reason. Just because a bit of tragedy such as that makes for interesting characters and/or character development. In my opinion, mind you. But I like things of a "dark" nature, so take that for what it's worth.

[Silvermoth]

I wonder if she would have a gay best friend?

[Natla]

Originally Posted by Silvermoth

I wonder if she would have a gay best friend?

Of course she would

As for Kurtis, is there any evidence that he was interested in women?

[Silvermoth]

Ha, I often wondered if Alastair was Lara's GBF

[WinterSoldier]

Originally Posted by Silvermoth

Ha, I often wondered if Alastair was Lara's GBF

He seemed straight to me. Just a bit "nerdy" is all. Ok, ALOT "nerdy". Like, it's easy for me to see how he could go to a bar with every intention of meeting a girl and sparking a romance and not accomplish that goal. Then again, if a dude says: "Yeah, I spend LOADS of time with Lara Croft. She's great." how many girls are going to think: "Yeah, I've got a chance with him."?

[LC is Me]

Originally Posted by WinterSoldier

He seemed straight to me. Just a bit "nerdy" is all. Ok, ALOT "nerdy". Like, it's easy for me to see how he could go to a bar with every intention of meeting a girl and sparking a romance and not accomplish that goal. Then again, if a dude says: "Yeah, I spend LOADS of time with Lara Croft. She's great." how many girls are going to think: "Yeah, I've got a chance with him."?

I think he was straight, just a bit of a metrosexual.
Spent a bit too much time on his looks...
I mean he could have been gay. LOL idk.
I don't care one way or the other, but it'd have been interesting.

[xXTombRaiderXx]

i think she should go out with like Drake person like her

[tomb1fan]

Originally Posted by Silvermoth

Do you think Lara should have a love interest in the new game or sequels? I wonder what sort of guy she would go after. I could see her being interested in Chris Redfield or maybe one of those old fashioned Hollywood movie star type guys like Clark Gable or whatever.

It doesn't have to be an in your face, twilighty sort of romance. Just a strong relationship with romantic intent sort of thing. Maybe even something similar to the relationship between Emma Peel and Steed in "The Avengers".

i dont Chris Redfield wouldn't match the concept of the game i think Nathan Drake from Uncharted would work though or bring back Kurtis Trent from tr angel of darkness

[Jerion]

I think Lara should have either a "flirt-interest" or an ex-SO. Active romantic relationships are really hard to sell in games, and usually kinda pointlessly done outside of a select few RPGs. A past relationship or something that could potentially become one are ingredients for a more interesting character.

[GemmaDarkmoon]

Originally Posted by Jerion

I think Lara should have either a "flirt-interest" or an ex-SO.

Lara having chemistry with a guy such as was done with TRA Larson and Kurtis is always good to see. I want to see more of that but not really a proper romance story.

[Pulse]

Laura shud totes dateee Kurtiss zomg!!!1!!!11! Dey r sooo cuteee!!!1!!1!1!

I'm not being serious btw... just bored. Seriously a flirty relationship like with Larson, but more personal would be fine by me.