PRE-ORDER/ORDERS Thread- Exclusives/Bonus/DLC Q&As/Different Editions -All Discussion

[Fluffis]

Oh, those *Bad People*!

Why the hell do they insist on doing these *Extremely Annoying* moves?

This kind of *Bad-Meany* maneuver has kept me from buying games before. *Manure*!

[Zakka]

Originally Posted by Darthassin

Than you don't know the hardcore fans of Deus Ex.

Lol as a hardcore fan I am psyched this is like the cheapest CE ever for so much content. And I'm NOT talking about the weapons/credits/map I'm talking about the 5 other things...

[Darthassin]

Let's see... Hmn... "All 3 weapons in full version of the game will be pretty cool."
Please someone tell me it's not true.

[Thasc]

Originally Posted by Darthassin

People are scared because they think they don't get those extra weapons at all in the full version of the game. But they are wrong, right?

Not a clue. I'm guessing there'll be a grenade launcher and a sniper rifle in the game, but the pre-order stuff seems to offer enhanced variants. If there actually isn't a nade launcher and sniper rifle in the basic game, that'll be pretty hilarious (can you imagine reviewers' reactions to a DX game without a sniper rifle?), but not a game breaker for me.

[Angel-A]

Originally Posted by Pretentious Old Man.

He hates you, Angel. In fact, he plans to launch multiple, simultaneous deep strikes on your very home this very instant.

What did I ever do you you, Eidos?! NOOOOOO

[Esnuk]

Ok, so, I am still a bit confused about the 2 preorder packs and the augmented edition, so here are my questions I hope someone will calrify:

1) Does the Augmented Edition have all the 2 packs plus its primarly content?
2) Is it the Aug. Ed. the best way to get every single extra, bonus and stuff from the game?

[FuzzyPuffin]

Originally Posted by Esnuk

Ok, so, I am still a bit confused about the 2 preorder packs and the augmented edition, so here are my questions I hope someone will calrify:

1) Does the Augmented Edition have all the 2 packs plus its primarly content?
2) Is it the Aug. Ed. the best way to get every single extra, bonus and stuff from the game?

Well, the Augmented edition doesn't list both exclusives, so I would guess the answer is no, you'd just get the exclusive depending on where you bought it. Which is ridiculous, because there's no way to get everything in a legitimate fashion.

It would be nice to get a confirmation on that, though.

[IOS]

The bonus guns don't look too great. None of them can be upgraded, meaning they'll probably be outclassed by midgame. The only thing of significance that you might miss out on is the bonus mission. I'll bet its available for cheap after the game's been released along with everything else (See: Just Cause 2)

[Darthassin]

That's not fair. In MANY countries pre-ordering the game is impossible. I live in one of those countries. I'm scared, depressed and lonely right now. I want my sniper rifle.

[IOS]

Originally Posted by Darthassin

That's not fair. In MANY countries pre-ordering the game is impossible. I live in one of those countries. I'm scared, depressed and lonely right now. I want my sniper rifle.

Just use the regular ingame one then that can actually be upgraded.

[Pinky_Powers]

I am universally against withholding content for pre-orders or DLC. If you've built the content, it should be in your game for everyone who's purchased it... period!

And an entirely new mission with a DX1 CAMEO?? FU EM!


PS. The Augmented Edition looks lovely.

[Darthassin]

Is there any other sniper rifle in the game?

[Dead-Eye]

Originally Posted by IOS

The bonus guns don't look too great. None of them can be upgraded, meaning they'll probably be outclassed by midgame. The only thing of significance that you might miss out on is the bonus mission. I'll bet its available for cheap after the game's been released along with everything else (See: Just Cause 2)

I don't think so. The ability to fire two shotgun shells at the same time is so OP I might not use any other shotgun.

[FuzzyPuffin]

Originally Posted by Darthassin

Is there any other sniper rifle in the game?

Of course.

[IOS]

Originally Posted by Darthassin

Is there any other sniper rifle in the game?

Yes, on the main site they compare the preorder sniper rifle to the regular one:

"The Longsword Whisperhead Suppressed Extreme Range Sniper Rifle is a military Spec-Ops variant of the standard Longsword 202 ‘ERaSeR’ sniper rifle..."

http://deusex.com/preorder

[Darthassin]

Ufff.... OK. Thanks.

[Corpus]

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I don't think so. The ability to fire two shotgun shells at the same time is so OP I might not use any other shotgun.

Power VS ammo count/reload time

[Ashpolt]

Oh Eidos Montreal, you really are trying your very best to make me not buy this game, aren't you?

The weapons I couldn't really care less about, barring the remotely detonated explosives: they have the potential to be a large part of the gameplay, opening up entirely new ways to do things that a double barrelled shotgun and sniper rifle won't really do. There's this idea:

Originally Posted by Pretentious Old Man.

On reflection, at least the new weapons are just more powerful versions of existing ones, rather than being *the* sniper rifle or *the* grenade launcher.

But has this actually been confirmed? I haven't seen anything to confirm or even suggest this, just a bunch of speculation with, as far as I can tell, no factual basis. Notice, incidentally, that Kyle popped in to tell us about the pre-order art book and the automatic unlocking device, but hasn't given us an answer on this: what he doesn't say tells us as much as what he does.

But yeah, like I say, the weapons are "meh" to me, the big deal is the extra mission - a) because it's specifically a mission that features a "classic" Deus Ex character, so one the long time fans will particularly want to play, and b) because it suggests the game is structured so that missions can be easily dropped in and out - can you imagine taking a mission out of the original Deus Ex, or even Invisible War? It would've ruined the flow of the game completely with an abrupt "skip" - like in Assassin's Creed 2: "You did a couple of missions here, but THE DATA FILES ARE CORRUPTED" (WINK) "SO WE CAN'T SEE THEM NOW" (WINK!)

Add on to this the fact that the preorder bonuses are separate depending on your retailer, so you can't play the full version of the game (without resorting to piracy) and it reinforces my longstanding belief that Eidos Montreal has nothing but contempt for its consumer base. OK, you may be able to get all of these add-ons with the collector's edition - i.e. by paying extra, which is bad enough in itself - but notice, again, that Kyle hasn't popped on to confirm this.

Also, they've only given us details of the US pre-order bonus. I wouldn't like to take a bet on non-US customers not being able to (legitimately) get these things at all, but on the other hand, I wouldn't bet against it either.

Finally, is it just me or is the collector's edition massively disappointing? After all our thoughts on here about whiskey glasses, zippo lighters, Adam / boxguard figures, sunglasses, etc etc, what do we get? An absolutely bog-standard making of DVD, soundtrack, artbook and motion comic - now, the motion comic could be cool, but it's of the E3 trailer that we've probably all got committed to memory by now. Seriously, after all Eidos Montreal's assurances that if they did a Collector's Edition, it'd be something special, this is an incredible let-down - because, in fitting with absolutely everything about this game so far, it's just doing what every other game out there does. *Yawn*

So yeah, Eidos Montreal delivers another big "screw you" to their fanbas. After the last trailer, I was actually starting to get (cautiously) more optimistic about this game, but this whole thing has shot that straight back down again. I really fail to think of a way that Eidos Montreal could realistically insult their fanbase more. Good job, everyone involved.

[EDIT] Oh, and "UR-DED"? FFS,, EM, why don't you just write "Age rating: 15 and under" on the box?

[Angel-A]

Originally Posted by Pinky_Powers

And an entirely new mission with a DX1 CAMEO?? FU EM!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT


Why, why, whywhywhywhy
Exclusive content... Eidos why would you do this?

[Dead-Eye]

It seems to be like that. They say one thing, and I feel optimistic. Then they say something else a few day later and it gets me upset. Then they come back and say something again and I'm less upset, then they inform me that they added a double barrel shotgun but I won't get it and this makes me want to rape and kill.

Help me Kyle san Kenobi, you're my only hope!

[Thasc]

Originally Posted by Angel-A

Eidos why would you do this?

I read an excellent point in the YouTube comments on the preview vids - Eidos may not have had any choice. Retailers really like pre-order incentives like this, particularly for less-consumed PC games, to the point that they may demand such incentives be added before they'll stock the game.

It's a shame, but, a fact of the market. Just remember that the whole rest of the game is there. The loss of a mission is the worst part of this for me, but it's not going to stop me buying it vanilla (I don't think the pre-order extends over here).

[FuzzyPuffin]

Originally Posted by Ashpolt

Finally, is it just me or is the collector's edition massively disappointing? After all our thoughts on here about whiskey glasses, zippo lighters, Adam / boxguard figures, sunglasses, etc etc, what do we get? An absolutely bog-standard making of DVD, soundtrack, artbook and motion comic - now, the motion comic could be cool, but it's of the E3 trailer that we've probably all got committed to memory by now. Seriously, after all Eidos Montreal's assurances that if they did a Collector's Edition, it'd be something special, this is an incredible let-down - because, in fitting with absolutely everything about this game so far, it's just doing what every other game out there does. *Yawn*

Actually, the CE is the one thing in this mess that I like. Yes, it is standard and there's not a whole lot, but it's a just a $10 increase. Seeing that all I care about is the soundtrack and making of, and not useless items that take up space + inflate the price, I'm happy.

Of course, The Witcher 2 gets all the same sort of stuff in the normal $50 preorder...

[Jerion]

Well, looks like Gamestop will be getting my money for the Aug Edition pre-order. It was never a question of whether or not I'd be getting the special edition, but rather from whom.

This process of handing out specific extra goodies to different retail outlets is unfortunate. I had hoped this wouldn't be the case for HR.

[FuzzyPuffin]

Originally Posted by Thasc

I read an excellent point in the YouTube comments on the preview vids - Eidos may not have had any choice. Retailers really like pre-order incentives like this, particularly for less-consumed PC games, to the point that they may demand such incentives be added before they'll stock the game.

Pre-order incentives are OK, but retailer-specific incentives are just evil, because it's impossible to get all the content. I doubt Gamestop "demanded" to have its own special content.

[Ashpolt]

Originally Posted by Thasc

I read an excellent point in the YouTube comments on the preview vids - Eidos may not have had any choice. Retailers really like pre-order incentives like this, particularly for less-consumed PC games, to the point that they may demand such incentives be added before they'll stock the game.

Bull. Complete bull. At the end of the day, game stores will stock any title that they think is going to sell. They are absolutely, categorically not going to refuse to stock a title that has the potential to be popular just because the developers / publishers won't reach some agreement with them - because if they don't stock it, their competitors surely will. For a game as publicised as DXHR, the ball is firmly in the publisher's court.

Originally Posted by FuzzyPuffin

Actually, the CE is the one thing in this mess that I like. Yes, it is standard and there's not a whole lot, but it's a just a $10 increase. Seeing that all I care about is the soundtrack and making of, and not useless items that take up space + inflate the price, I'm happy.

I personally would much rather pay a decent amount extra to see some decent content. Saying "it's only $10 extra" is all well and good, but it's just reflective of the content rather than being indicative of a great deal.