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Old 12-20-2010, 01:27 PM
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That's why I was asking questions. I would like a clarification on this. Fat chance of that happening though.
I'm with you on wanting to know more. I just don't agree with this:

"Apparently things are different now. JJB makes it sound like Adam can install any type of aug at any time just by spending 2 praxis points."

We were given more information, not altered information. Unless there's no way around it, new information should build upon the old, not tear it down. And these Praxis points fit quite comfortably into what we already knew.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:34 PM
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Oh, amidst the criticism I almost forgot about the praise:

Very good choice of a question this time, this is the sort of stuff we actually want to hear about
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:39 PM
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He did mean that we buy/find augs and need praxis points to be able to install them at a "limb clinic", right? Not that we'll be able to ram them on ourselves as we find them. I sure hope so. I really want to have to go to a shady doctor to get augs installed. It's one of the things I've actually looked forward to with this game.

Oh, and kudos on choosing a good question.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:43 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Glad you liked the question choice. But please don't get mad at us if you don't like the choice for EVERY video. As I've said before, we're trying to answer many different questions for many different people who have varying interests.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:44 PM
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I think Pinky is right, we (including me) shouldn't speculate too much. The only thing we should get from that answer is the way praxis points are distributed. We now know that we will have the interesting choice to either upgrade one or multiple augs you already have with 1 praxis point per upgrade or to get an enitre different aug for 2 praxis points. I hope I understand this right.

What would you guys do if you had 2 praxis points? Get an entire new augmentation or upgrade what you already have? It depends, I guess : )
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:49 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Glad you liked the question choice. But please don't get mad at us if you don't like the choice for EVERY video. As I've said before, we're trying to answer many different questions for many different people who have varying interests.
I think a pretty big part of the reaction to the first video was the fact that a question posted by someone who... hasn't got the best reputation on the board (so to speak)... was chosen as the first one answered. That it was fairly irrelevant, in light of all the other info people thirst for here, just "added insult to injury" (for lack of a better term).

The idea is great, though! Getting some straightforward answers warms my little black heart.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:59 PM
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What would you guys do if you had 2 praxis points? Get an entire new augmentation or upgrade what you already have? It depends, I guess : )
This goes right to the heart of a good RPG.

Do you want a wide range of base talents, or do you want mastery of a few core powers?

Some great choices to make.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:10 PM
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JJB and Adam Jensen have relatively the same facial hair...coincidence?
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:18 PM
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They already told us Adam's look was partly based on JJB
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:31 AM
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Nice vid; informative. Thanks!

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I kind of liked the plot even if it was a bit silly
Yeah, I think the point is that the content did not really live up to the plot "frame". With all that happened during the game, the simple escape from the prison was like...disappointing. I don't know, something was lacking at the end, had no substance. Yet again, the game was really nicely made
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:58 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Glad you liked the question choice. But please don't get mad at us if you don't like the choice for EVERY video. As I've said before, we're trying to answer many different questions for many different people who have varying interests.
As has been said above, I think the reaction to the first one was because it was the very first question answered. If you'd chosen a couple of "tougher" questions to start with, and then moved onto questions like that, you wouldn't have had such a bad reaction. A lot of us assumed that this podcast wouldn't really answer much, and that first question seemed to confirm that.

For anyone who cares: I messaged JJB on Twitter to thank him for answering my question, and to ask him if we still need cash / limb clinics to install new augs. He sent me a direct message saying that he's trying to get permission from the powers that be to answer that, so hopefully (fingers crossed) we should get this cleared up pretty quickly.

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I'm sure Dugas made a comment along the way that suggested the Tech Tree upgrading was akin to Adam learning how to use his Augs; that it would take time for his brain to adjust to the new tech.
....Which makes sense for upgrading existing augs, but you can't get so experienced with your normal fleshy legs that they magically turn into mechanical ones. :P That's why the division of cash + limb clinic for new augs, experience for upgrading existing ones made sense. If you need experience as well as cash and a limb clinic to install new augs, then that makes perfect sense too. It just doesn't make sense that experience alone makes you grow a pair of mechanical legs.

While we're talking about it though, how many new augs can there be? We get arms and eyes as default: all that I can think of that's left are legs, brain and potentially some kind of chest thing, which doesn't make for a lot of new branches.
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:09 AM
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He sent me a direct message saying that he's trying to get permission from the powers that be to answer that, so hopefully (fingers crossed) we should get this cleared up pretty quickly.
Honestly, I don't get this. We're not talking nuclear secrets here. It's a simple yes/no question and should have been answered after we asked the question.


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While we're talking about it though, how many new augs can there be? We get arms and eyes as default: all that I can think of that's left are legs, brain and potentially some kind of chest thing, which doesn't make for a lot of new branches.
It depends on how far they are willing to go. Each new aug that takes up a certain slot could come with its own augmentation or section of augmentation. For instance installing Cloak would lead to a different looking chest plate than installing Ballistic Protection. This would limit the amount of new augs to the number of slots.

If you can install all augs in one game (even when they occupy the same body slot) you could make each aug add a new texture to the existing model. A chest plate with both Cloak and Ballistic Protection installed would look different than just Cloak or just Ballistic Protection.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:36 PM
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....Which makes sense for upgrading existing augs, but you can't get so experienced with your normal fleshy legs that they magically turn into mechanical ones.
Absolutely, that would make no sense. I was speaking purely on the upgrading of existing Augs.

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While we're talking about it though, how many new augs can there be? We get arms and eyes as default: all that I can think of that's left are legs, brain and potentially some kind of chest thing, which doesn't make for a lot of new branches.
21 base Augs, brother. 21. If it sounds like a lot, that's because it is.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:12 PM
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21 base Augs, brother. 21. If it sounds like a lot, that's because it is.
I believe that's 21 aug functions, rather than 21 aug slots: i.e. super speed and quiet running, though both using the leg augmentation slot, would count for 2. Assuming that, as in the original, you can only have one aug per slot (and that is pure assumption at the moment, of course) then we've still got very limited expansion capability, considering 2 aug slots are installed as default.
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I believe that's 21 aug functions, rather than 21 aug slots: i.e. super speed and quiet running, though both using the leg augmentation slot, would count for 2. Assuming that, as in the original, you can only have one aug per slot (and that is pure assumption at the moment, of course) then we've still got very limited expansion capability, considering 2 aug slots are installed as default.
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That's 21 base aug slots, each with it's own upgrade tree.
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That's 21 base aug slots, each with it's own upgrade tree.
Sweet. Are those all represented visually on the character out of interest?
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He sent me a direct message saying that he's trying to get permission from the powers that be to answer that, so hopefully (fingers crossed) we should get this cleared up pretty quickly.
Honestly, I don't get this. We're not talking nuclear secrets here. It's a simple yes/no question and should have been answered after we asked the question.
Agreed. Let's hope they let JJB clear that up ASAP, it would really get the ball rolling.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:00 AM
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Sweet. Are those all represented visually on the character out of interest?
That's that thing I was rambling about.


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Agreed. Let's hope they let JJB clear that up ASAP, it would really get the ball rolling.
The weird thing is that this concerns stuff they've already talked about in public. It's not on par with asking them to reveal a new aug or something. It's just confirming whether something that was already in the game is still in the game.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:24 AM
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The weird thing is that this concerns stuff they've already talked about in public. It's not on par with asking them to reveal a new aug or something. It's just confirming whether something that was already in the game is still in the game.
The fact that he has to ask if it's okay to divulge that, is enough for me to prick up my ears.
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Sure did!

Oh, and new Ask JJB is LIVE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpeIFOcuR_I

Thanks Kyle. Will add to first post/first page of this thread.
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Apparently Adam has skulls for shoulders. Pre-alpha issue?

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Old 12-22-2010, 09:57 AM
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^ I don't know, it looks like a Coracoid Process to me...
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That's the orbital cavity, for sure.
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