"THIEF" - Your current THOUGHTS & SUGGESTIONS & CONCERNS - All General Discussion

[DarknessFalls]

Originally Posted by Platinumoxicity

Events happen, things change. People turn into birds, and entire laws of physics disappear.

Things get contextual, hands get held. Player freedoms get stripped, and cinematic level previews appear.

[zhunt]

there seems to be no satisfying some people. for a long time, there was very little info, now we have lots of stuff coming out, gameplay, screen shots, interviews, etc etc, yet they moan.
in fact some people have been outright rude. people are throwing about all sorts of accusations and conspiracy theories. im starting to imagine them at home with their tin foil hat on so the government cant read their thoughts!
they say they havent listened to people.
well, heres 2 examples from myself that we see in the new game. granted, that could be coincidence.
i suggested a brothel as a mission, and we have one.
i suggested a mission where the environment is unstable. originally, my idea was an unstable underground cavern with shifting columns and falling beams, but there is a burning building instead with falling beams.
just remember, the game isnt out for over a year, and they have more than enough time to "listen" to our complaints and suggestions and make changes.
how about we all just chill out. its not a matter of life and death.
im sure the sun will still come up even if they release a game with garrett with a jetpack and shotgun.

[ClassicGamer]

Know what my big proplem with all the *ing and moaning in regards to the released info is? If a year from now EM says that they're going to delay the game for a span of time so that they can improve some things, all the people who are currently saying the game looks like are going to complain that they have to wait longer to play it.

If you hate the game so much, why play it? So you can boost your ego and be able to say that you were "right"? Well guess what that's your opinion and no matter how many other people agree it's still an opinion. Meaning that you aren't "right."

So if you can't be "right" about the game being terrible, why play it at all?

[Animikii]

Originally Posted by zhunt

there seems to be no satisfying some people. for a long time, there was very little info, now we have lots of stuff coming out, gameplay, screen shots, interviews, etc etc, yet they moan.

On the contrary, I think that a quiet majority of players are very grateful to Eidos Montreal for taking the time out of designing the game that they made to include the numerous optional implementation features. The most overt departures from the core series appear to be capable of being switched off, slimming the game down to a gameplay experience more familiar to the hardcore fans.

I have a love/hate relationship with Deadly Shadows, because they were handcuffed by trying to deliver a faithful adaptation of a niche game while still opening the door for more casual players or players that missed the original games. The new Thief has put forth a pretty elegant solution I think.

[Platinumoxicity]

Originally Posted by zhunt

there seems to be no satisfying some people. for a long time, there was very little info, now we have lots of stuff coming out, gameplay, screen shots, interviews, etc etc, yet they moan.

You know why they moan? They have a right to. This forum was established for collecting information regarding what the fans expect from a new Thief. After years of saying absolutely nothing, almost every bit of news revealed has been about going exactly contrary to fans' wishes. And there are so many simply horrible design choices where the correct course should have been obvious. People are complaining because they were let down. They were given the impression that they are listened to, and they were never listened to. And some of the things that were done wrong are so major that they can no longer be changed. Like the prioritization of cutscene mouth animations instead of character consistency and voice. Ten years of fans demanding the return of Garrett and Russell, or no Garrett without Russell. And EM simply didn't care. Instead they wanted cutscenes with precise mouth animations for a masked character.

If this forum was never started before the reveal... if EM simply said that they won't listen to anyone's wishes, then there would be no right for anyone to complain. But because the forum was opened for a specific purpose for which it was never actually used, people have a right to complain. People have a right to accuse EM accurately of either being deceptive or stupid. They either lied about the forum, or misunderstood everything that went on on the forum.