Help with Influence/Sympathy

[bodkinhead]

I need some advice with the sympathy/influence
part of this game.

I'm playing my first campaign as Britain, I take
over a provence with my army only to find a few
turns later it converts to Russian ownership.
Russia never even set foot in the place.

I'm starting to think what's the point of taking
a provence by force when I look at the stats I
see that another nation will just take it off me
through their influence?

How do I stop this happening?

My overall reputation seems to be low, but the
only thing I'm doing wrong is to reject stupid
offers of trade from other countries which would
bankrupt me if I accepted.

Any advice apreciated.

[Queeg]

If by "take over" a province, you mean having an army there while still at war with its owner, then the problem is that you don't really own it until you take it from them as part of a peace treaty.

Also, it might be that you are holding one province at the same time Russia conquers the capital, which (I think) would give the entire country to Russia.

[bodkinhead]

Originally Posted by Queeg

If by "take over" a province, you mean having an army there while still at war with its owner, then the problem is that you don't really own it until you take it from them as part of a peace treaty.

Also, it might be that you are holding one province at the same time Russia conquers the capital, which (I think) would give the entire country to Russia.

Oh, ok so I can't just take one province off another owner?

I thought if you defeated another army so yours was the only
army in the area, eventually it would turn over to your control.


If a province isn't neutral i.e. France owns it, is it then
possible for Russia to capture it through sympathy/influence
alone? This is my concern that an influential country can
just take regions off because they have alot of sympathy amongst
the local population.

Maybe the province that Russia took from me was not yet
fully owned by me.

I'm still learning this game so I'm probably not making sense.

[Yorkie]

In order to take "a" province you need to win the battle for that province, Then when you have it geyed out in your colour (red in your case) you can then get a peace treaty. all provinces currently greyed out will be owned by there countries .

You lossed the province beacuse russia anexed the capital of that country.

[Queeg]

You take temporary control of a non-capital province by moving an army into it and defeating any enemy there. You don't take ownership of the province, though, until you make peace - then it becomes yours.

[bodkinhead]

Originally Posted by Queeg

You take temporary control of a non-capital province by moving an army into it and defeating any enemy there. You don't take ownership of the province, though, until you make peace - then it becomes yours.

Ok that makes sense although it wasn't really explained
in the tutorial or manual.

In my case I defeated Denmark in Norway then the province
went Red although I still couldn't build there. 1 turn
later the province went green and I was told to get out
of Russian territory. The Danish capital was still in
the hands of the Danes.