Purist Mode on the first playthrough | UPDATE: will be available! see OP

[xChupa]

Edit by Driber: Please see this update from the devs:

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

It seems voicing your concern helps from time to time. I've just heard back from the team that purist mode is now designed to be unlocked from the get go. now, unless something critical happens, I feel confident that you can all get your butts handed to you from the first playthrough.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthr...80#post1790880

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Does anyone know if Purist Mode will be available right from the get-go? Or does it need to be unlocked?

If it's available from the start, how many of you will play through Purist on your first playthrough?

Normally I play through games on Normal difficulty the first time, but in this case I think I will do the hardest difficulty available. You can always playthrough the game again to figure out little features you may have missed on Purist, but you can only experience the game like a true assassin once.
For example, let's say you're playing through a level and you find your target using Instinct, and notice he's wearing a grey suit and has blonde hair. Now when you play through the game again on Purist you'll already know he's a blonde guy in a grey suit, and won't need to do any investigating to learn his identity or find him.

Since you only get one chance to experience the game for the first time and get the true assassin feeling, I think I'll play through Purist, or if it's locked, the hardest difficulty available with all Instinct features turned off.
I hope Purist isn't locked at the beginning.

So my question to you all, what difficulty will you do on your first playthrough?

[Nick@IO]

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

[xChupa]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

Cool, thanks for the reply
Expert it is then, with (if possible) as many Instinct features disabled as possible.
Not that I have anything against Instinct, just that like I said I want to experience the game as close to a true assassin as possible for the first time

[Sam_kain]

Nick@IO I would love it is unlocked from the start, Stealth games especially needs immersion and challenge, Purist Mode can give us that and more.

[MacGregor91]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

Does that mean that purist mode will provide a different ending or slightly changed story, or is it just a reward for people playing through the game for the first time?

[David 47 Bateson]

Really? was hoping it would've been unlocked from the start how many instinct features will we be able to disable on the hardest difficulty then?

[Knu]

I would prefer if purist mode is available right from the start..

[David 47 Bateson]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

why is the one mode the hardcore fans are looking forward to the most locked? its not very pure if we already know how to complete the missions.

[Redkid]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

Please, please, please change this. Purist mode is the difficulty I want to play, and it is the difficulty that I want to experience the game for the first time in. Experiencing something for the first time is a very big thing.

After I have played through the game on purist, I might try the lower difficulties. If I have played through the game on a lower difficulty first, then I might(probably) have ruined alot of the challenge in Purist.

So please allow Purist from the start. There is no reason, I repeat, no reason to disallow purist from the start. If you have one, I would like to hear it.

[Trzebiat]

Originally Posted by David 47 Bateson

why is the one mode the hardcore fans are looking forward to the most locked? its not very pure if we already know how to complete the missions.

Exactly! Once we complete the game on Normal or Expert, we already know the levels, targets and possibilities. If we don't know that, this would be a real challenge. I see that this way: one first level (the tutorial one) on Normal difficulty to get to know controls, which button is for pick things up, actions, shooting, etc. And then - play the game on purist.

I think I'll have to ask my brother to complete game on Normal as fast as possible (no matter of style) just to unlock Purist mode

[aconda71]

why u guys so worried about purist mode need to be unlocked from the start?

it's just like bloodmoney guys..i really remember it..its the same like previous hardcore hitman game 0.0

hardest difficulty on each level will unlocked by completed those level first
(no matter u are get mass murderer or silent assassin rating)

sry im write not very good in english.

[xChupa]

At first I wasn't too disappointed but now that I've though about it more, I too hope they reconsider and unlock Purist Mode at the start.
It's not like it's too late since it's such an easy change to make. Maybe someone should pepper one of the devs with our concern so that they notice and reconsider.

You are all right, after playing the game through from start to finish, we will know all the levels and targets whatnot. A lot of the challenge of Purist (gathering info, exploring, ect) will then be removed.

They put Purist Mode in the game to appease hardcore fans, but they force us to play through the full game, thus removing much of the challenge, just to play the mode dedicated to us? Seems a bit redundant to me.

To the developers, don't feel like you need to have some sort of new mode unlocked for beating the game. That's just a gimmick meant to give incentive to replay the game again, but we have plenty incentive already with the Challenges. There is, literally, no reason not to unlock Purist Mode from the start. Worried that inexperienced gamers will try it on their first go and get mad and stop playing? Well, then I ask you: why would an inexperienced gamer choose the hardest mode first? That would be their own fault. No one is forcing anyone to play Purist.
If you really, REALLY are worried about that, then give us a code on these forums that unlocks Purist from the start. That way, us devoted fans who know what we're getting into can play through Purist right away while inexperienced casual gamers won't even know they have the option.

Please IO, reconsider and allow us to play through Purist on the first time through.

[aconda71]

1 level complete = that level now have Hardest diffculty (purist mode).

each by each level if u completed them, they will soon have purist mode, even u still not complete all level within the game.

so i think there is misunderstanding, u no need to completed the whole game's level to unlock Purist mode on every mission. CMIIW

[sgg847]

A discussion between so-called "hardcores" always makes me LOL.
It would have been much more funny if that puris...t had been unlocked after the completion all so-called difficulties.

[David 47 Bateson]

Originally Posted by aconda71

1 level complete = that level now have Hardest diffculty (purist mode).

each by each level if u completed them, they will soon have purist mode, even u still not complete all level within the game.

so i think there is misunderstanding, u no need to completed the whole game's level to unlock Purist mode on every mission. CMIIW

There's no misunderstanding, it shouldn't need to be unlocked in any way at all, it was a mode designed to appease the players who don't want to use the instinct feature and want a classic hitman experience, now half of that experience will be wasted as we'll already know how to finish the game by the time its unlocked, thus ruining the point in purist mode.

[sgg847]

Originally Posted by Redkid

There is no reason, I repeat, no reason to disallow purist from the start. If you have one, I would like to hear it.

There is one reason - only 19% of players will see the last level of HA. It is the artificial trick to increase an interest to the boring game. By adding 5 difficulties to the game they want to cater to more players (universal logic - probably if the game had 10 different modes then they would multiply number of players by 2 times) and increase so-called replay value which depends not on new ideas and features (aka desire to replay a game) but amount of bots on level and instinct.

[David 47 Bateson]

Originally Posted by sgg847

There is one reason - only 19% of players will see the last level of HA. It is the artificial trick to increase an interest to the boring game. By adding 5 difficulties to the game they want to cater to more players (universal logic - probably if the game had 10 different modes then they would multiply number of players by 2 times) and increase so-called replay value which depends not on new ideas and features (aka desire to replay a game) but amount of bots on level and instinct.

I get the feeling you don't like hitman lol , and that's not a good reason as there is probably already people boycotting the game because of the lack of Bateson(I'm not one of them ) this will just add more fuel to the fire

[Redkid]

Originally Posted by EliteAssassin

Is it so hard to first play through on expert mode ?

Did you read the arguments made? It has nothing to do with tediousness or difficulty.

[Rekalty]

While I'm not worried, it seems odd to "force" people to play the game without the Purist mode first, and then unlock it on their 2nd playthrough. It doesn't really feel like a solid second option for the people that really want to play this mode, if they have to play the entire game once without it, it should simply be a toggle/option when starting a new game, not a "feature" to unlock. Now, to count how many times I repeated myself.

In any case, all that I've seen and heard about the game up until now, gave me the impression that you were just able to choose Purist/not - It being a "reward" seems odd to me, but then again, quite a few games these days unlock harder difficulties once you've completed the game, and Hitman: Absolution is trying its darn hardest to be as mainstream as possible, so why not also "borrow" that gameplay design as well.

[MacGregor91]

Well, theoretically speaking once you have the full game installed you could try accessing the developer's console (often ^-key on qwertz and ~ key on qwerty keyboards) and then trying out something like "PuristMode=1". Personally I don't mind Instinct that much but I also often checked the map to see where the targets are in earlier games. Anyway, if the console is accessable that could be a workaround if the dev's stand to their decision of not making Purist Mode available until the 2nd playthrough.

[David 47 Bateson]

Originally Posted by MacGregor91

Well, theoretically speaking once you have the full game installed you could try accessing the developer's console (often ^-key on qwertz and ~ key on qwerty keyboards) and then trying out something like "PuristMode=1". Personally I don't mind Instinct that much but I also often checked the map to see where the targets are in earlier games. Anyway, if the console is accessable that could be a workaround if the dev's stand to their decision of not making Purist Mode available until the 2nd playthrough.

That doesn't help console players though

[Rekalty]

Originally Posted by David 47 Bateson

That doesn't help console players though

Console players without console? That's crazy!

[MechazawaPrime]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

I just now registered on the forums to let you know that my purchase hinges on purist mode being available from the start. I know there are many people who feel the same way (maybe it won't decide their purchase but they'd like the option from the start). There is really no reason not to allow us to this mode from the beginning if this is the way we want to play.

[Leeham720]

Wow, this is a joke.

I am not stupid. I am not a child. I don't need targets highlighting, I don't need a minimap and I don't need any other helper you are forcing on me. I do NOT need to be spoonfed anything to enjoy a game. What's the point of playing a game if it holds your hand from start to finish? I'm supposed to be a lone assassin in a heavily guarded area. I'm supposed to be at a disadvantage and in danger at all times and have to work to complete the mission. How difficult is this to understand? Have you completely forgotten what Hitman is about?

It's extremely insulting to have a developer assume I am an idiot that needs help. Not surprised really, considering every game and every developer caters to the lowest common denominator and allows their product to greatly suffer in the process. Don't you care about what you create? Don't you want it to be the best it can be? Obviously not. Jonny 12 year old needs a go too!

Stop giving these failing developers money and they'll stop making bad products for the dumb populus. Unfortunately the dumb dollar massively outweighs the intelligent dollar, and they will be falsely rewarded for a poor product.

Preorder cancelled.
Edit: To give one game props, Goldeneye 007 Reloaded at least had a 007 Classic mode that was available from the get go - no regenerating health or body armour.

[MrAtmea]

Originally Posted by Nick@IO

Purist mode is only available after you've played through the game at least once - on Normal, Hard or Expert as it stands right now. I guess you will want to go through on expert on your first try

I'm sorry Nick, but I think it is pretty stupid that you are forced to play on an easier mode before you can get to play Purist mode, which if I am correct was specifficaly designed for the original fans. It will take away a lot of fun.

Let me explain further. For example in Hitman 2 there was a mission where you have to sniper a general at a meeting. Once you finally have figured out how to get to the best sniper spot, it turns out that there are several generals. While Diana is figuring out which general you have to shoot, you are biting your nails and close to a massive heart attack, because you know that the guards could come in any minute. Once you hear which general to shoot, you pull the trigger as fast as you can and then get the out of there.

My point is that on the second playthrough, you already know which general you have to shoot, and will probably shoot him immediately instead of waiting for Diana.

I have nothing against instinct, I just don't want to use it at the first playthrough.