I want Lara in shorts !

[Ivana KC]

Originally Posted by Driber

I have a feeling that the OP will get their wish...



See those ripped pants? With all the action on the island, they are just begging to rip even further and turn into shorts

Oh, now this is something! Although I have nothing against Lara wearing cargo pants, I think shorts would be way more awesome.
Like you guys said, by the end of the game she will be wearing shorts. In fact, maybe she will wear something else entirely, but I don't care that much. I always thought that Lara looks awesome no matter what she is wearing.

Originally Posted by Metalrocks

im also pretty sure this will happen. if they already made lara dirty in underworld, so its obvious that laras clothing will be affected as well. by the end of the game, she will be in shorts for sure. maybe she even find some boots as well.

Isn't she already wearing boots?

Take a look:

[hiropon056]

To be true I don't want Lara in shorts. I already read a lot of comments on other sites which were just like "Boobs or GTFO" concerning her look in the new game. And I don't want these people to have the satisfaction to see more naked skin on her or see her as a sex-symbol any longer
That's what my inner feminist thinks
Anyway I still will play that game.. no matter what she wears

[Driber]

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

Lmao. You know what I mean, Driber

It's just that Batman's suit has become more sophisticated with age. It's exactly the same with Lara Croft. I always thought her outfit looked cheap and tatty. Now it looks sophisticated and practical - well as practical as you can get when you're taken by surprised and shipwrecked on an island full of crazed maniacs. I'm sure she would have brought a long a nice jacket in hindsight.

Heh, I know what you meant yeah

Practical it is for this island, indeed. I have no demand that Lara should wear a bikini in TR9, lol.

But I do hope that we will see more stronger hints to her iconic outfit either by the end of the game or in the next games.

I do not like the idea of Lara in fully covered cargo pants forever from this day forth :/

Oh and about her old outfit being cheap and tatty; you're not a true fan then

Originally Posted by hiropon056

To be true I don't want Lara in shorts. I already read a lot of comments on other sites which were just like "Boobs or GTFO" concerning her look in the new game. And I don't want these people to have the satisfaction to see more naked skin on her or see her as a sex-symbol any longer
That's what my inner feminist thinks
Anyway I still will play that game.. no matter what she wears

I wouldn't pay too much attention to childish guys like that. (Yes, GUYS. I'm willing to bet that those comments are coming for 99% from males ) Us REAL TR fans know better that Lara isn't just the skin showing outfits she wears

And honestly, if you let those kinds of comments influence your opinion on Lara's clothes, perhaps you should spend more time on this forum and less time in places the likes of neogaf, kotaku, 4chan, etc

[chip5541]

4chan *shiver*

[Love2Raid]

Originally Posted by Driber

I have a feeling that the OP will get their wish...



See those ripped pants? With all the action on the island, they are just begging to rip even further and turn into shorts

But what about the right half? You would get a sort of pants/shorts hybrid then... everyone pleased.

The classic outfit is very 90s, lol, I think it would look strange and out of place now. I liked what they did with it in Anniversary (the Underworld version was awful >_<), but realistically speaking, nobody in their right mind would explore those places in booty shorts. You would want to protect your skin from scratches, creepy crawlies etc.

[Andy64]

Originally Posted by hiropon056

To be true I don't want Lara in shorts. I already read a lot of comments on other sites which were just like "Boobs or GTFO" concerning her look in the new game. And I don't want these people to have the satisfaction to see more naked skin on her or see her as a sex-symbol any longer
That's what my inner feminist thinks
Anyway I still will play that game.. no matter what she wears

Over all the games Lara has really defined her own set style. She has such bravery, confidence and is always herself. One think that is SO clear from her fashion choices is that she likes to look sexy. She certainly isn't doing it for any guy or to seduce foes. She chooses that look as that is the outward image she wants to reflect to the world. If that a great sexy image then good for her and I don't get why so many want to do her down for that. Maybe it's the same thing as pointing out cellulite on celebs in magazines.

When Lara walks in he Japan dress in TRL I do think she looks so hot but I also get a feeling of 'you go girl' in that she has the attitude to pull the look off. It's so amazing to see such an empowered female character as she has always been. Should she be forced to supress her fashion style for political correctness or cos some women want to peer pressure her? - No. I so strongly believe that Lara and CD should keep her true to being sexy rather than cowering out. If freedom of self-expression is taken from Lara then that don't seem like a victory for feminism.

When it comes to the new outfit I think Brian must have been watching a box series of Lost when he designed it as it looks like what Kate wears rather than what Lara would wear. It 100% needs in injection of more personality. Yes I would like to see shorts appear again as a throwback to the classic outfit but what is way more urgent is getting some style and sexyness back in unlockables/DLC/The next game after this one.

[Metalrocks]

Originally Posted by Ivana KC

Isn't she already wearing boots?

Take a look:

ok, should have made my self more clearer about that. my bad.
what i mend was, that lara will find/get these boots she wears in the previous games. these boots she has now are shorter, compared to her normal once.

[adobeARTIST]

Who wears short shorts??
sorry, couldn't resist

Originally Posted by Elliot Kane

Gotta say, I don't think the clothes maketh the woman in Lara's case.

There are plenty of times she wears outfits that involve long trousers and even once or twice dresses or skirts, just for the sake of shock!

As a general rule, Lara tends to dress for the terrain, and that's true in most of the games.

EDIT:

TR2 & 3 outfits, as recreated by Matty Croft for XNALara:

Just in those two games she varies her look a LOT. That tendency has been pretty constant throughout, I'd say.

Exactly THIS. Lara has never, NEVER been limited to just booty shorts. On plenty of occasions has had trousers, from her military garb, to the catsuit, to her denim casuals. To say nothing of Lara demonstrating stylish sophistication in evening gowns (rrrrawr ).

It's just absurd that some people "define" Lara by her attire, when she's always had a varied ensemble. It's the same as people limiting her to just her braid. Going just by her outward appearance is a tragically superficial way to characterize our Lady here.

No, when you really look at it, what has truly defined Lara Croft isn't any one particular item of clothing, but her overall sense of style, that has always been a reflection of beauty & strength accentuated by self assured confidence. Not to mention her diversity and variations.

But BUUUUUUT, hold on now, because I KNOW what's coming next. "well we aren't seeing any of that in this game.". yeah yeah heard this drum being banged plenty. Yet these remarks completly disregard the context of the game.

This is starting from a new beginning, when Lara has yet to discover her true strength, and therin her sense of self that develops her assertion of individuality and from that, her core of self expression. But we know that's coming. We just have to experience the journey along with her that will take us there.

I also need to re-state the other importance of context - how the plot determines the visual direction of Lara. Not only is it a statement that she hasn't come into her own yet (the drab utilitarian "prison outfit"), but even more importantly, how she is stripped of any luxuries and even some basic resources.

I think it's imperative for the visual direction here to be a reflection of the circumstances Lara finds herself in. This is Lara being deprived of any resources her wealth afforded her before, from which she learns to rely on herself and how that grows her fortitude to see her through her ordeal. The outfit not only accomplishes this by the haggard condition it's in, but the very fact that this is all she has, and can't be replaced, emphasing the horrific reality that she won't have access to any relief supplies.

I know we all enjoyed the benefit of outfit options before, but as gamers we must also accept what ever presedence the context places on the game design. In fact this same priciple has been in effect in previous titles as well.

The context determined Lara being clad in a wetsuit as appropriate for her diving sequences. Or having to wear her thermal jacket for going to the Arctic. And when she attended a posh penthouse party to meet with a contact, she was suitably attitred in a striking dress to fit in with her surroundings.

Context must and should override your own personal preferences to reinforce the reality within the game.

Yes it's nice when Lara has plentiful options to adorn herself with. But at the same time, she shouldn't be dependant on it to define herself. It's her personal characteristics which define her, that clothing can of course accentuate, but never actually be needed to accomplish it either.

Originally Posted by LadyRufina

I think it's silly that so many people think Lara is not Lara without shorts. Batman's suit changes all the time but it always incorporates old elements of past suits. Just as the new Lara's suit has. Yes, she's got trousers which are much more realistic but we can definitely see elements of Lara's old outfit in the colour of her tank top (which is officially grey but we can definitely see a turquoise tinge) and the colour of her trousers and her boots. It's got elements of her old outfits but just looks more realistic and fashionable to the era. Just like Batman's suit.

As I had said before, when you really look at the new outfit, it's a modern reimagining of the classic outfit

[Elliot Kane]

^ Totally with Adobe on this one! Very well said, Sir!

[Priscillia]

I know you are right Adobe, but I think many player (including me) would have loved to START the game with the shorts.
Indeed, Lara always have had a huge wardrobe, but when you look at it, we mostly begin a TR game with the shorts (TR 1, 2, 4, 7 at least).

About the braid, it's a little bit different because true, it was getting old and ponytail is more trendy for sure. That being said, I needed time to accept this new Lara, because Lara without the braid was not Lara anymore to me XD
I have the same feeling about the shorts : even if I know Lara has a big wardrobe, Lara without her shorts is not Lara (by the way, I do wear short shorts pretty all year long ^_^, to answer your question)

BUT, I know changes were needed, or else we finally would play the same game each time.
Probably because I'm getting old, I miss the good old Lara anyway, and this is not really the game I was waiting for as a TR fan. Otherwise, it looks really promising and the shorts or the boots are tiny details compared to the overall game. The franchise is evolving, so we, old TR fans, should evolve with it too or else we might be disappointed endlessly ^_^

That's why I personnaly stopped thinking about what used to "define" Lara, and why I'm expecting this game as a complete new one. Not a reboot, nor a prequel, just a whole new game

[pidipidi39]

i'd love if in the end of the game lara cuts her trousers to make them shorts! because the outfit is identical to the classic, apart for the trousers

[Quartzclock]

Originally Posted by adobeARTIST

As I had said before, when you really look at the new outfit, it's a modern reimagining of the classic outfit

Give me the real classic outfit any day over this one and I hope we get the chance to unlock it latter on. The new outfit is a reimaging like puting your lunch in a bin is a reimaged meal. I am notsaying it to be mean just as I want CD to reconsider. If we are going to be Lara stuck the whole time in that outfit then that isn't going to make me a happy gamer.

[Dollpy]

Originally Posted by Quartzclock

Give me the real classic outfit any day over this one and I hope we get the chance to unlock it latter on. The new outfit is a reimaging like puting your lunch in a bin is a reimaged meal. I am notsaying it to be mean just as I want CD to reconsider. If we are going to be Lara stuck the whole time in that outfit then that isn't going to make me a happy gamer.

Well, you don't get the old Lara so why would you get the old outfit? With all due respect, I doubt we'll get the classic outfit. This is about Tomb Raider moving forward not going back in the past. CD team keeps stressing realism and as others have said, running around all these enviorment in booty shorts has nothing real about it.

[pomeranianpuppy]

I've read CDs reason for the outfit and i completely agree with them a young lady whos trying to prove herself to the world isn't going to swan about a ship wearing tight tank tops and shorts

[OneMorePike]

Now her cloth is more real. From the one hand it is nice because it is so close to reality, but from the other hand, her previous cloth was more colourful, more interesting) But anyway I like new outfit, despite of shorts

[Sophiafan]

It's far too plain for Lara to wear. They aren't going to change it but I wish so much that they would or at least give us a styish unlockable outfit.

[LARALOVERnr.1]

You know what would be awesome? The following scene:

Before she can escape, Lara will have 1 final, heavy task to complete.
While she's preparing herself mentally, she cleans her wounds and washes away all dirt and blood.
Her pants are torn apart, so she cuts of a big part, making them into her classic shorts.
She doesn't want her hair to be in the way, so she braids it into her classic ponytail.
She rises, grabs the 2 guns she found in a ship, checks them for ammo, decides what other weapons/supplies she will take with her (there's no going back after this, it's either escape or die), then leaves the safe basecamp, the only place where she felt save on the island, and walks into the forest, all of this displayed in a sexy cutscene with dramatic 'survivalish' music playing ofcourse.

BAM, she turns into a younger, badass version of the modern Lara we all know and love

[a big house]

Originally Posted by pomeranianpuppy

I've read CDs reason for the outfit and i completely agree with them a young lady whos trying to prove herself to the world isn't going to swan about a ship wearing tight tank tops and shorts

She might if she was about to go to bed...

Also since the ship crashes at night, I don't see why she would be wearing her full outfit. For me, I always take off my shoes, whether I'm about to sit indoors for a few hours or just for five minutes.

It kinda seems like Lara was dressed for the occasion...

[The Hylden]

Not everyone is the same in what they lounge in, and she's on a ship, not at home. I would imagine she'd want to keep her boots on until she's ready for sleep. She was sitting up looking at pictures when the boat went into turmoil. The cabins are probably just bare metal flooring and I'm sure sitting there without her boots on would be inadvisable. Her tootsies would freeze

[Mondic]

Originally Posted by LARALOVERnr.1

You know what would be awesome? The following scene:

Before she can escape, Lara will have 1 final, heavy task to complete.
While she's preparing herself mentally, she cleans her wounds and washes away all dirt and blood.
Her pants are torn apart, so she cuts of a big part, making them into her classic shorts.
She doesn't want her hair to be in the way, so she braids it into her classic ponytail.
She rises, grabs the 2 guns she found in a ship, checks them for ammo, decides what other weapons/supplies she will take with her (there's no going back after this, it's either escape or die), then leaves the safe basecamp, the only place where she felt save on the island, and walks into the forest, all of this displayed in a sexy cutscene with dramatic 'survivalish' music playing ofcourse.

BAM, she turns into a younger, badass version of the modern Lara we all know and love

This is exactly what I'm hoping for, LaraLover, and I've already imagined the same thing. I fully concur that the new young Lara would realistically not start out immediately with the classic outfit we are used to. The trousers will get torn off and she will braid her hair and strip down to the basics and weaponry that she is comfortable with for survival in the new lifestyle that has been forced upon her, in which she metamorphoses into the predatory raider that she will become, like the scene near the end of Aliens when Ripley goes down in the elevator to rescue Newt and prepares herself on the way down, and when she reaches the bottom of the ride, BAM, we are fully back with the tough (and even tougher) Ripley we knew from the first Alien film, because whacking xenomorphs is a destiny she can never shake off, and she will always have to come back to it.
My post was intended to alert CD that this is how it should be, and that I'm trusting them to do it this way, more or less like you and I have described. Hopefully I don't want to have to wait till the end of the game for it though, not unless 'TR2 Reboot' is also ready for release very soon after this one.
For the record, I've never bothered to change Lara into any of the unlocked outfits in any TR game, they just don't interest me in the slightest, I've never asked her to dress up special for me, and I always have her running around the Arctic and the Himalayas etc in her shorts. She was fine on the sheer walls of ice in Peru in her shorts, she never complained to me or asked me for trousers, she looked just perfect on that first day we met, so that's how I always keep her.
I never play with the music on either. I like Lara to be able to hear enemies creeping up well in advance, so we keep things nice and simple.

[WinterSoldier]

Yeah I'm one of those people that thinks that her previous clothing changes have always made sense considering her enviornment at the time. If I were jumping from iceberg to iceberg in the arctic, I'd want a snowsuit. Shorts are part of the icon, yeah, but heck, even Spider-Man's had about 16 different costumes in his "life".

I wouldn't throw my hands up in the air and curse Crystal to the heavens if they made the tradityional outfit an unlockable feature tho.

[Driber]

Originally Posted by LARALOVERnr.1

You know what would be awesome? The following scene:

Before she can escape, Lara will have 1 final, heavy task to complete.
While she's preparing herself mentally, she cleans her wounds and washes away all dirt and blood.
Her pants are torn apart, so she cuts of a big part, making them into her classic shorts.
She doesn't want her hair to be in the way, so she braids it into her classic ponytail.
She rises, grabs the 2 guns she found in a ship, checks them for ammo, decides what other weapons/supplies she will take with her (there's no going back after this, it's either escape or die), then leaves the safe basecamp, the only place where she felt save on the island, and walks into the forest, all of this displayed in a sexy cutscene with dramatic 'survivalish' music playing ofcourse.

BAM, she turns into a younger, badass version of the modern Lara we all know and love

You know it's gonna happen

Originally Posted by a big house

She might if she was about to go to bed...

Also since the ship crashes at night, I don't see why she would be wearing her full outfit. For me, I always take off my shoes, whether I'm about to sit indoors for a few hours or just for five minutes.

It kinda seems like Lara was dressed for the occasion...

Originally Posted by The Hylden

Not everyone is the same in what they lounge in, and she's on a ship, not at home. I would imagine she'd want to keep her boots on until she's ready for sleep. She was sitting up looking at pictures when the boat went into turmoil. The cabins are probably just bare metal flooring and I'm sure sitting there without her boots on would be inadvisable. Her tootsies would freeze

Yeah, what TH said.

Lara wasn't asleep when the ship crashed and also...being in a strange place, you're likely to keep your shoes on. Hell, I even used to keep my shoes on at home (not in bed, though )

It even wouldn't be weird if she went to sleep fully clothed. Lara could've been dead tired from a busy day and just drift away once she gets a bit comfortable. I've fallen asleep like that (in my clothes) on many occasions, myself.

But again, she wasn't asleep when it happened.

[larafan25]

If her pants actually rip into shorts I'll whimper like a baby, I'm that in love with the image of that outfit sporting shorts, with those bad ass short boots.

People need to overcome this idea that Lara wearing shorts would make her too sexed-up.

That's not avoiding sexualizing Lara, it's just shorts, it's avoiding ammo for those who do see Lara as just a sexual object.

Because I am more important than those people, Lara will now wear shorts.

And screw practicality, it's fun and adventurous.

[Lara_Fan_84]

To me, Lara is Lara no matter what her outfit is.

[adobeARTIST]

Originally Posted by Lara_Fan_84

To me, Lara is Lara no matter what her outfit is.

This, EXACTLY THIS It's not the clothes that make the woman, it's the woman that makes the clothes - from outdoors apparel, to diving suits, to catsuits, military garb, cocktail gowns, denim casual, bikinis, biker apparel, arctic gear, hell even just a towel... Lara adds that extra POW to em like nobody else!!