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    Default will we see Diana naked?

    so as we all know there's a part in the Absolution where 47 tries to kill Diana while she's in the shower, so my question is, will there be nudity?

    I honestly hope the answer is yes, because I think the past Hitman game's avoidance of nudity was very silly, we all remember stuff like bikini clad strippers, or a woman showering while wearing a dress in Contracts, or the "Playboy mansion" level in Blood Money where not a single lady was topless and there was even a photographer taking pictures of a bikini clad woman despite this supposedly being for a Playboy type magazine!

    I mean come on guys, we're all adults here, the Hitman series is rated M after all, I can understand why they couldn't get away with nudity in 2002/2004/2006, which was pretty darn taboo back then (and of course it's strange that graphic violence was ok, while bare breasts weren't) however these days a game can get away with nudity without raising a fuss at all, games like the God of War series or Heavy Rain

    so the taboo has been broken and there's no reason not to have nudity in Absolution, if the Hitman series once again shies away from that I'll be disappointed

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    ^cant forget The Witcher 2. That game had the most nudity I've seen in a mainstream game

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    Having girlfriend is much better then look on some animated chicks in the game! ))

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    sure,because agent 47 will wear her cloths

    but i hope she never be naked,because hitman games no need something like this Vains

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    Quote Originally Posted by branco18 View Post
    Having girlfriend is much better then look on some animated chicks in the game! ))
    ^ One up that.

    Regardless if there is or isn't doesn't change anything about the game. Just eye candy for men...and some women.

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    Even if a game is M, VERY few companies have the balls to actually push any sort of nudity. Most likely because it'll upset the retarded mothers of children who are perfectly fine buying their kids call of duty.
    FACT: I am definitely without a doubt........ the Truest Fan of the Thief franchise.

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    iiii think they would have to change the rating from Mature to Adult... and like an NC 17 movie you would need to show i.d. to buy it...

    pretty sure

    japan has a big market for like anime sex game type stuff if you want to see computer created boobies...

    orrrrr buy a playboy

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    Tits alone don't warrant AO
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    What a thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by nirvana1 View Post

    but i hope she never be naked,because hitman games no need something like this Vains

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    i hope i get to see dianas bum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeky Man View Post
    so as we all know there's a part in the Absolution where 47 tries to kill Diana while she's in the shower, so my question is, will there be nudity?

    I honestly hope the answer is yes, because I think the past Hitman game's avoidance of nudity was very silly, we all remember stuff like bikini clad strippers, or a woman showering while wearing a dress in Contracts, or the "Playboy mansion" level in Blood Money where not a single lady was topless and there was even a photographer taking pictures of a bikini clad woman despite this supposedly being for a Playboy type magazine!

    I mean come on guys, we're all adults here, the Hitman series is rated M after all, I can understand why they couldn't get away with nudity in 2002/2004/2006, which was pretty darn taboo back then (and of course it's strange that graphic violence was ok, while bare breasts weren't) however these days a game can get away with nudity without raising a fuss at all, games like the God of War series or Heavy Rain

    so the taboo has been broken and there's no reason not to have nudity in Absolution, if the Hitman series once again shies away from that I'll be disappointed
    Interesting question. As far as I know, we're not looking to censor anything but I suppose it would come down to regions and age ratings. Some versions might have nudity.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Even if a game is M, VERY few companies have the balls to actually push any sort of nudity. Most likely because it'll upset the retarded mothers of children who are perfectly fine buying their kids call of duty.
    Need I remind you that we put both Kane & Lynch naked in Dog Days?

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    Granted, you guys push the boundaries further than most and I'm grateful for that. Eidos has the best cast of characters and probably the most controversial in gaming, but that comparison is on par with the sims in terms of nudity(which is rated teen). I always wonder when the gaming community will get our "midnight cowboy" of video games.
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    There was plenty of nudity in the form of male genetalia in Hitman: Silent Assassin. It was just the wrong nudity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick@IO View Post
    Interesting question. As far as I know, we're not looking to censor anything but I suppose it would come down to regions and age ratings. Some versions might have nudity.



    Need I remind you that we put both Kane & Lynch naked in Dog Days?
    wow, I'm sorry but I can't help but be surprised to get an answer from one of the developers themselves, that is very cool

    and thanks for the response

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    IO... dooooo ittttttt


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    Nudity has no place in media, except for when you want porn.

    When nudity is introduced into a media, it cuts out a huge chunk of the potential audience and therefore potential sales.

    In addition, nothing is being gained by the player in having nudity in the game.

    If the sole reason is for wanting porn, then that is illogical. When you experience a media you want to be immersed in it.

    You could argue that the lack of nudity lowers immersion because it is "unrealistic", but alas that is also not true.

    A casual cloth put over a body, or a body put in such a way that it's private parts are covered is in no way unrealistic.

    I otherwise wouldnt mind if there was nudity anywhere, but the problem is that the people I live with don't agree. When you want to share a media with someone but can't because of it's content, that really sucks, and blows. It also sucks when you're parents (or spouse) approach you to get rid of the game because of it's content.

    Please IO, no nudity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 111BLACKLIGHTNING111 View Post
    Nudity has no place in media, except for when you want porn.
    wow, that doesn't even begin to make sense. so what you're saying is there should never be nudity even in movies unless it's pornographic? I mean what the hell are you talking about?

    and since when is nudity "pornographic"? it's not

    When nudity is introduced into a media, it cuts out a huge chunk of the potential audience and therefore potential sales.
    it doesn't matter if the game is going to be M rated anyway, Hitman Absolution will be M rated regardless of whether there's nudity or not, so there's no loss of "potential audience"

    In addition, nothing is being gained by the player in having nudity in the game.
    nothing is being lost either

    If the sole reason is for wanting porn, then that is illogical. When you experience a media you want to be immersed in it.
    huh, what are you even talking about? is English not your first language?

    You could argue that the lack of nudity lowers immersion because it is "unrealistic", but alas that is also not true.

    A casual cloth put over a body, or a body put in such a way that it's private parts are covered is in no way unrealistic.
    guess what? it is unrealistic for strippers to be wearing bikinis, it is unrealistic for someone to be showering while wearing clothes and it is unrealistic for there to be no nudity at a "Playboy mansion" type party, I don't know what version of reality you're living in

    I otherwise wouldnt mind if there was nudity anywhere, but the problem is that the people I live with don't agree. When you want to share a media with someone but can't because of it's content, that really sucks, and blows. It also sucks when you're parents (or spouse) approach you to get rid of the game because of it's content.

    Please IO, no nudity.
    so you're fine with showing people a game where you can murder innocent people for money but OH NO WATCH OUT THERE'S SOME VIRTUAL BOOBIES!

    this is all starting to remind me of the absurd outrage over the GTA San Andreas "Hot Coffee" incident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeky Man View Post
    Originally Posted by 111BLACKLIGHTNING111 View Post
    Nudity has no place in media, except for when you want porn.

    wow, that doesn't even begin to make sense. so what you're saying is there should never be nudity even in movies unless it's pornographic? I mean what the hell are you talking about?
    What I'm saying is very simple. Porn and other media should stay separate.

    and since when is nudity "pornographic"? it's not
    Unless it is by complete accident, by very definition nudity is pornographic.

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    When nudity is introduced into a media, it cuts out a huge chunk of the potential audience and therefore potential sales.

    it doesn't matter if the game is going to be M rated anyway, Hitman Absolution will be M rated regardless of whether there's nudity or not, so there's no loss of "potential audience"
    I never said I cared that Hitman Absolution was M did I? This is what we call strawmanning, when you quote something from someone that the someone did not say, or otherwise twist or obscure what was actually said.

    And yes, nudity drives people away and therefore potential sales. Concerned spouses and parents take away the offending games and either get refunds or sell them used. In either case, a potential sale or many more is lost. Before a game is even purchased many people often look at the rating details. Nudity is an automatic "don't buy" for parents with gore and language sometimes being more forgivable.

    It's really not rocket science.

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    In addition, nothing is being gained by the player in having nudity in the game.

    nothing is being lost either
    Wait... so you agree that nothing is being gained by way of nudity in media? So... like you're entire argument is pointless? Before you say I'm strawmanning think about the implications of you're reply.

    I say something, you don't make the opposite claim but instead argue the opposite side of the argument. Since you haven't challenged my argument you imply you agree with it.

    Oh, and yes I do believe customers are being lost.

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    If the sole reason is for wanting porn, then that is illogical. When you experience a media you want to be immersed in it.

    huh, what are you even talking about? is English not your first language?
    Huh, coming from someone who doesnt even capitalize the first word to a sentence.

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    You could argue that the lack of nudity lowers immersion because it is "unrealistic", but alas that is also not true.
    A casual cloth put over a body, or a body put in such a way that it's private parts are covered is in no way unrealistic.

    guess what? it is unrealistic for strippers to be wearing bikinis, it is unrealistic for someone to be showering while wearing clothes and it is unrealistic for there to be no nudity at a "Playboy mansion" type party, I don't know what version of reality you're living in
    Okay, shower is an obvious one, but everything else you said is simply not true. What do strippers wear before they strip... what was it called... eh... clothing oh yeah. Maybe on the night 47 visits no one tips the strippers? Eh?

    Also, as said, a person can be made to appear obviously naked without covering up their private parts without clothing. Didn't you ever watch little mermaid... or more relevantly, the Hitman teaser trailer with Diana shown naked in it, which is what this whole freaking thread is about, which shows diana is obviously naked, but doesnt actually show any of her private parts?

    Strategic camera, set piece, and body placement can censor nudity without actually censoring it.

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    I otherwise wouldnt mind if there was nudity anywhere, but the problem is that the people I live with don't agree. When you want to share a media with someone but can't because of it's content, that really sucks, and blows. It also sucks when you're parents (or spouse) approach you to get rid of the game because of it's content.
    Please IO, no nudity.

    so you're fine with showing people a game where you can murder innocent people for money-
    Criminals, murderers, perverts, otherwise scum and villainy. These people are not innocent, so much to the contrary that I actually consider killing them to not be murder.

    I think officially 47 has never killed a civilian, but then again there was that priest and reporter in requiem... meh, they probably deserved it too.

    And yes, nudity is worse than "strong language, gore" and whatever else might appear on the rating details.

    Lets compare language, gore and nudity by associating them with certain physical experiences of pain.

    Lets say a devout christian sees a zombie get decapitated; sudden headache.

    Hears the phrase "fuhk you *"; slap to the face.

    Sees a dead naked girl, vajayjay and everything; sledgehammer to the groin.

    but OH NO WATCH OUT THERE'S SOME VIRTUAL BOOBIES!
    Hipster, find some other forum to *** with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 111BLACKLIGHTNING111 View Post
    What I'm saying is very simple. Porn and other media should stay separate.


    Unless it is by complete accident, by very definition nudity is pornographic
    so by your definition Michelangelo's David and other classic paintings to feature nudity are porno? mkay then


    I never said I cared that Hitman Absolution was M did I? This is what we call strawmanning, when you quote something from someone that the someone did not say, or otherwise twist or obscure what was actually said.

    And yes, nudity drives people away and therefore potential sales. Concerned spouses and parents take away the offending games and either get refunds or sell them used. In either case, a potential sale or many more is lost. Before a game is even purchased many people often look at the rating details. Nudity is an automatic "don't buy" for parents with gore and language sometimes being more forgivable.

    It's really not rocket science.
    and yet plenty of games, such as the God of War series, have featured nudity and done quite well in sales, God of War 3 for example had the most graphic nudity I've ever seen in a game and yet it did quite well in sales (after all, there's going to be a God of War 4)

    I mean heck, if anything I would say nudity would increase sales, sex sells after all

    Wait... so you agree that nothing is being gained by way of nudity in media? So... like you're entire argument is pointless? Before you say I'm strawmanning think about the implications of you're reply.

    I say something, you don't make the opposite claim but instead argue the opposite side of the argument. Since you haven't challenged my argument you imply you agree with it.

    Oh, and yes I do believe customers are being lost.
    no, nudity does not have a direct effect on the actual gameplay of a game, but then again neither do pretty graphics or dozens of other purely aesthetic things developers put in games, it doesn't matter whether players "gain" anything from it


    Huh, coming from someone who doesnt even capitalize the first word to a sentence.
    at least what I say makes sense


    Okay, shower is an obvious one, but everything else you said is simply not true. What do strippers wear before they strip... what was it called... eh... clothing oh yeah. Maybe on the night 47 visits no one tips the strippers? Eh?

    Also, as said, a person can be made to appear obviously naked without covering up their private parts without clothing. Didn't you ever watch little mermaid... or more relevantly, the Hitman teaser trailer with Diana shown naked in it, which is what this whole freaking thread is about, which shows diana is obviously naked, but doesnt actually show any of her private parts?

    Strategic camera, set piece, and body placement can censor nudity without actually censoring it.
    true and that's what's been done in past Hitman games, what I'm saying is that I'm tired of the Hitman games skirting around nudity and would rather they just have the balls to show it instead of being so coy


    Criminals, murderers, perverts, otherwise scum and villainy. These people are not innocent, so much to the contrary that I actually consider killing them to not be murder.

    I think officially 47 has never killed a civilian, but then again there was that priest and reporter in requiem... meh, they probably deserved it too.
    you can kill plenty of innocent bystanders in all of the games, not just the "targets"

    And yes, nudity is worse than "strong language, gore" and whatever else might appear on the rating details.

    Lets compare language, gore and nudity by associating them with certain physical experiences of pain.

    Lets say a devout christian sees a zombie get decapitated; sudden headache.

    Hears the phrase "fuhk you *"; slap to the face.

    Sees a dead naked girl, vajayjay and everything; sledgehammer to the groin
    I really have no clue what the point you're trying to make is, other than you think sexual content is worse than violence, a lot of people have that mindset, but it's still backwards, I mean what would you rather catch your kids doing? masturbating or killing animals?


    Hipster, find some other forum to *** with people.
    Hipster?

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    Blacklightning, you shouldn't be copying and pasting every post you make into a new thread that you create. You're just wasting more space than you already are with redundancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick@IO View Post
    Interesting question. As far as I know, we're not looking to censor anything but I suppose it would come down to regions and age ratings. Some versions might have nudity.



    Need I remind you that we put both Kane & Lynch naked in Dog Days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 111BLACKLIGHTNING111 View Post
    Nudity has no place in media, except for when you want porn.

    When nudity is introduced into a media, it cuts out a huge chunk of the potential audience and therefore potential sales.

    In addition, nothing is being gained by the player in having nudity in the game.

    If the sole reason is for wanting porn, then that is illogical. When you experience a media you want to be immersed in it.

    You could argue that the lack of nudity lowers immersion because it is "unrealistic", but alas that is also not true.

    A casual cloth put over a body, or a body put in such a way that it's private parts are covered is in no way unrealistic.

    I otherwise wouldnt mind if there was nudity anywhere, but the problem is that the people I live with don't agree. When you want to share a media with someone but can't because of it's content, that really sucks, and blows. It also sucks when you're parents (or spouse) approach you to get rid of the game because of it's content.

    Please IO, no nudity.
    Yep, I agree completely with this. You're buying a game, not a porno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Fleming View Post
    Yep, I agree completely with this. You're buying a game, not a porno.
    Well, if somebody want's nudity in H:A, go and watch porn on Red Tube

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    Default Extreme violance is ok but tits aren't??????

    1. there has been nudity in art since it's inception, video games are an art form, why do we now consider nudity to be pornographic, stop being so prudish. do you sensor your own privates when you get in the shower.
    2. nudity is not in it's nature "pornographic", it's only viewed that way by ridiculous conservatives.
    3. nudity is something we find in life, we play video game to immerse ourselves in the life of the character. so true immersion would involve nudity, not for pornographic reasons, but because it's what happens.
    4. the whole " it limits who can play the game", well if it's rated m, then those under 17 should not be playing it, so nudity should have no effect on perspective buyers.
    5. back to one, I don't understand how we are ok with violence ( I am), extreme violence, drug use, etc, but again, nudity, a pair of harmless breasts, which we are all exposed to as soon as our mothers breast feed, suddenly causes everyone to freak out. grow up.

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    go buy a porn magazine if you wanna look at naked chicks..!!!

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