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Old 08-19-2010, 07:19 PM
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Default Where did the robbers go as i remeber kane and lynch as from 1st game...?

I remeber them both as robbers , and i found the stealing items as the primary story progress that the first game had , to be genious and fun.

Now here its all shooting and running and no quest in the story. Its just plain
confusing at times and i feel it destroys more than adding depth to the duo..

Also in a trailer its kane and lynch that does a briefig of a team for a heist, where did that part of the game go ?
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:37 PM
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So what your saying is that there is no story in dog days..... ok, your very wrong.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:26 AM
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no i did not mean it like that, i just think they choose the wrong story to use.

They had a handheld camera as a good visual feature, tough a bit weird to.
they could easely run a type of "heat" story , would made the story more interesting as to the connection to the heist type of game the multiplayer promotes to...
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:18 AM
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The briefing involving all the multiplayer characters is just a trailer for Fragile Alliance, not part of the main campaign.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:36 AM
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no i did not mean it like that, i just think they choose the wrong story to use.

They had a handheld camera as a good visual feature, tough a bit weird to.
they could easely run a type of "heat" story , would made the story more interesting as to the connection to the heist type of game the multiplayer promotes to...
Run a type of heat story?!?! why dont you just watch the movie heat? why would you want a Kane and lynch to ride the coat tails of a movie.

As for them not robbing anything this time, thats not the way the story went this time around. They were to busy trying to escape the dirty shanghai underground.I mean why would you want them to rehash the same story they did in the first game.

And lastly the clip you saw from the FIRST TEASER TRAILER of kane in the middle of heist gone wrong, was setting the foreground the story of dog days.

If you have this much of an issue with the game trade it in or put a crew of trained people make your own kane and lynch but please just stop *ing
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:36 AM
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with which part of your body did you see and hear 'Dead Men'
Kane literally rob his stuff (looking for the infamous briefcase) and there was no other 'robbing scene' it was just the concept of FA and still is the concept of FA.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:43 AM
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no i did not mean it like that, i just think they choose the wrong story to use.

They had a handheld camera as a good visual feature, tough a bit weird to.
they could easely run a type of "heat" story , would made the story more interesting as to the connection to the heist type of game the multiplayer promotes to...
They chose the wrong story to use? who are you to say? Are you head of the devlopement team? Wow I am amazed at how much of a cry baby you are. " waaaahha I dont like the story WAAAAAH" thats how you sound right now. big baby
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:25 PM
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K&L2 did seem to lack a bit in the set pieces like the bank, the night club, or the tower from the first one, and I think that's what many reviewers took issue with. I guess the justification for this is that the game follows Lynch's life which is too improvised and chaotic to pull off something that Kane planned in the first game. The set pieces in K&L2 did follow this improvised nature
but it seems like most of them weren't really large scale enough to get much attention from reviewers. I have to say though, the small scale nature really accents the fact that these guys are absolutely small time and fairly insignificant goons.
So what was in the game I enjoyed, and the multiplayer is where all the robbery set pieces seem to have gone. So that stuff is still in the game, it's just not part of the story. (I would recommend checking them out, at least in arcade mode)

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K&L2 did seem to lack a bit in the set pieces like the bank, the night club, or the tower from the first one, and I think that's what many reviewers took issue with. I guess the justification for this is that the game follows Lynch's life which is too improvised and chaotic to pull off something that Kane planned in the first game. The set pieces in K&L2 did follow this improvised nature
but it seems like most of them weren't really large scale enough to get much attention from reviewers. I have to say though, the small scale nature really accents the fact that these guys are absolutely small time and fairly insignificant goons.
So what was in the game I enjoyed, and the multiplayer is where all the robbery set pieces seem to have gone. So that stuff is still in the game, it's just not part of the story. (I would recommend checking them out, at least in arcade mode)
Please just stop what did you want them to do send kane and lynch back to all the same spots from the first game and rehash it. If you dont understand who Kane and Lynch as characters you will never be able the enjoy the game.
Kane and Lynch 2 isnt about where the story takes place its about kane and lynch.
just go trade your copy in i can see you just dont get it.
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Please just stop what did you want them to do send kane and lynch back to all the same spots from the first game and rehash it. If you dont understand who Kane and Lynch as characters you will never be able the enjoy the game.
Kane and Lynch 2 isnt about where the story takes place its about kane and lynch.
just go trade your copy in i can see you just dont get it.
Are you kidding? Did you not understand my post?
Never did I say I wanted to send them back to the same spots. In fact I supported the new set pieces and commented on how they really added to the characters. Kane & Lynch used to be big time, robbing banks, taking on big crime bosses, but now they're high profile small time crooks going for that one big score while trying to avoid big crime bosses.
I even offered that if someone misses the feel of the robberies that they try out the multiplayer or arcade mode, which has a similar feel to the set pieces of the first game.

I mentioned in my post that I absolutely enjoyed the game, it's just that some people may be looking for something different than what it's offering and by doing so they might miss out on the cool and unique situations in the game. I'm hoping to help people see the cool little things in the game.
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:52 PM
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Are you kidding? Did you not understand my post?
Never did I say I wanted to send them back to the same spots. In fact I supported the new set pieces and commented on how they really added to the characters. Kane & Lynch used to be big time, robbing banks, taking on big crime bosses, but now they're high profile small time crooks going for that one big score while trying to avoid big crime bosses.
I even offered that if someone misses the feel of the robberies that they try out the multiplayer or arcade mode, which has a similar feel to the set pieces of the first game.

I mentioned in my post that I absolutely enjoyed the game, it's just that some people may be looking for something different than what it's offering and by doing so they might miss out on the cool and unique situations in the game. I'm hoping to help people see the cool little things in the game.
they were never big time robbers, they have always been hasbeen desprate low life crimnals. kane was a traitious dog on the run from the seven till they caught his wife and daughter and forced him to give back what he had stolen. and the only reason lynch was there is because the seven tricked him in thinking that they would make him a member if played as kanes watch dog. and then the seven backstabbed him halfway through the game. These two characters are hardly big time. they have never been anything more then two desprate crimnals past their primes. either looking for revenge or one last pay day. Kane wanted revenge lynch wanted a pay day. Then the roles were reversed in the sequal.
Like I said before, I find it sad they youre just looking for a rehash on the first game. they story has to go somwhere.
And as for them avoiding a crimeboss this time round, they weren't. They were on the run from a corrupt government offical with endless resources and millitary on hand. and they were still able to storm the building with a helicopter and kill that bast*rd.
I argue that this is just a different chapter in the lives of these tragic characters. I find it sad you dont get it.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:51 PM
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Old 08-21-2010, 08:27 PM
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they were never big time robbers, they have always been hasbeen desprate low life crimnals. kane was a traitious dog on the run from the seven till they caught his wife and daughter and forced him to give back what he had stolen. and the only reason lynch was there is because the seven tricked him in thinking that they would make him a member if played as kanes watch dog. and then the seven backstabbed him halfway through the game. These two characters are hardly big time. they have never been anything more then two desprate crimnals past their primes. either looking for revenge or one last pay day. Kane wanted revenge lynch wanted a pay day. Then the roles were reversed in the sequal.
Like I said before, I find it sad they youre just looking for a rehash on the first game. they story has to go somwhere.
And as for them avoiding a crimeboss this time round, they weren't. They were on the run from a corrupt government offical with endless resources and millitary on hand. and they were still able to storm the building with a helicopter and kill that bast*rd.
I argue that this is just a different chapter in the lives of these tragic characters. I find it sad you dont get it.
Cause they weren't robbers. Kane was a mercenary, still is really. Lynch is a schizophrenic who allegedly killed his wife.

Lynch was not big time anything, Kane sure as hell was/is.

I also hate it when people say they're nothing but scum or low-lives, it's a pretty base an idiotic blanket statement. I've never actually seen Kane as a bad guy. He was a mercenary, so what, most of the people fighting in Iraq are too. Lynch, likewise, I don't see as a bad guy, he's at the mercy of his mental disorder.

Saying Kane is a traitor is also without grounds. Just because everyone in Dead-men chirps him at every opportunity doesn't mean it's true. We only have the stories. The seven say he betrayed, Kane says he thought the seven had been killed. Either one as likely as the other honestly. Even if you take the easy way out in the first game (and since Jenny survives I think that is the one they went with) and leave your team to be killed, that still isn't a "scum" move. His daughter was the only innocent of the lot of em, so rightfully she should be the main objective when it comes to survival.

So as much as that guy doesn't understand, as you say, that this is a just a part of their life story, you don't seem to understand their life with your crude judgments.
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Old 08-22-2010, 08:36 AM
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I get where you're coming from, the core of the first game was publicized as a heist game, a Michael Mann "Heat" experience in VG format, and it's completely gone in the second game's SP. The SP is a bit weak in terms of duration and cutscenes and doesn't have a strong storyline like the first game, but on it's own it's still pretty good overall. The heists do make a return in multiplayer, and are great this time around.
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Cause they weren't robbers. Kane was a mercenary, still is really. Lynch is a schizophrenic who allegedly killed his wife.
Im pretty sure if you rob a bank, your a robber... The back of dead men even describe's the game as an "epic CRIME drama".

"ITS THE NEW BREED OF HARD-EDGED CRIMINAL ACTION!"

Dog day's was more about them being mass murderer's then robber's.
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Im pretty sure if you rob a bank, your a robber... The back of dead men even describe's the game as an "epic CRIME drama".

"ITS THE NEW BREED OF HARD-EDGED CRIMINAL ACTION!"

Dog day's was more about them being mass murderer's then robber's.
I didn't realise if the word CRIME was used it instantly meant robbery. Silly Bachelor of Criminology lieing to me. Idiot.

They robbed a bank, yeah. They also destroyed public and private property, are evading justice, escaped prison, broke into prison and helped others escape and are aiding other fugitives, killed people, kidnapping and forcible confinement.

The only thing they did more than once was break into an out of prison, and kill a load of people.

I'd call Jesse James, a robber. John Dillinger. Neil McCauley, both in real life and in HEAT. Because robbing, thievery, was how they made THEIR LIVING. Neither Kane, nor Lynch made a living as robbers, so it's crass and idiotic to label them as robbers when it's one, SMALL aspect of what they've done. If anything the fair assessment would be to call them "Killers" since they've wiped out half of the police force or military of the US, China, and Cuba by now. Not to mention all the killing they did in Venezuela.

But keep it up, stupid looks good on you.
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Jesus christ on a cross...

The're criminals, they commit crimes, and robbery was one of them. My point being the game was about CRIME.

And I was agreeing with a few posts above about how this time around the story was not just a rehash of the first.

And I was being sarcastic.

Sorry bro.

But keep it up, acting like a jerkoff suits you good.
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Jesus christ on a cross...

The're criminals, they commit crimes, and robbery was one of them. My point being the game was about CRIME.

And I was agreeing with a few posts above about how this time around the story was not just a rehash of the first.

And I was being sarcastic.

Sorry bro.

But keep it up, acting like a jerkoff suits you good.
Thanks for noticing. I try real hard. At least we both play to our strengths, stupid and jerk.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
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lol kane and and lynch the good guys with flaws bwahahahahaha. excuse me while i piss myself laughing.
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Tsentralnaya, i'm not sure this game is for you.
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What exactly is the problem here ? ...

Both sides offer their own interpretation of the characters and their moral status , i don't see what's so wrong about that ...

I mean as long as no one shouts that Lynch and Kane are "epic gangsta" and ...
(granted the marketing campaign of the franchise Does make them look like men that does nothing but "blow up") ...
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Tsentralnaya, i'm not sure this game is for you.
I reckon intelligent life isn't for you. Shame nothing can be done about it.
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I reckon?! Are you FIXIN to insult me country boy? hahaha shut your pie hole simple minded redneck.
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I think it's pretty damn impressive if a country boy/simple minded redneck managed to find his way into this god forsaken forum , and should not be chased away , but rather fed with muffins ...

No ? ...
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