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Prince Daka
12-18-2009, 05:11 PM
For those of you who have been waiting for E. Nygma to turn away from the sleuth game & return to being a nasty-minded villain we know as The Riddler - well it seems like we're all in luck. In Batman #693 there is a point where Helena (Huntress, w/o the costume) is tracking down someone suspicious. Riddler follows her because he is tracking the same person (as he was hired to do so by an unknown), only for the two of them to get hit by a small bomb. 10 minutes later Riddler gets up looking sinister & says "Twister of truths... Dastardly definer of definition... King of contradiction... Grandmaster of all Riddles... I'M BAAAAACK! heh heh".

It's about time! I did enjoy some of the reformed riddler stories, but I've been waiting for the real Riddler to return, & this issue certainly seems to indicate that the evil Riddler we adore has returned. The question now is... what will he do? & has the memory of Batman's identity returned to him?

Drazar
12-18-2009, 05:20 PM
I asked Tony Daniel about this. He said the Riddler is slowly turning to "evil" ways and you will see more of him in Gotham Sirens.

door noob
12-19-2009, 09:38 PM
How did you asked Tony Daniels :eek:
A podcast or something similar :scratch:

Drazar
12-19-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm Batman. (http://tonydaniel.blogspot.com/) *wink*

SammiiDoogles
12-19-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm Batman. (http://tonydaniel.blogspot.com/) *wink*

Haha oooh that was clever ;)

door noob
12-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Oh wow, lol. I um.... didin't think of that.... :whistle:

TheCluemaster
12-19-2009, 09:59 PM
Oh wow, lol. I um.... didin't think of that.... :whistle:

I'm Cluemaster, Riddler's best bud. He always tell me what he does in his next appearance.

door noob
12-19-2009, 10:01 PM
heehee cluemaster.

http://www.spermio.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cluemaster.jpg

TheCluemaster
12-19-2009, 10:02 PM
heehee cluemaster.

http://www.spermio.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cluemaster.jpg

No The Batman sucked that interpretation up and spit it out.Drazar my good man could you show him BADASS CANON CLUEMASTER.

door noob
12-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Oh no not Drazar, anything except that, NOOOO!!!!! j/k

SammiiDoogles
12-19-2009, 10:06 PM
heehee cluemaster.

http://www.spermio.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cluemaster.jpg

lmfao

door noob
12-19-2009, 10:10 PM
That is no laughing matter, that is the true cluemaster, triple the brain power the riddler has, and quadruple the man power.

TheCluemaster
12-19-2009, 10:24 PM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/392881-31112-cluemaster_large.jpg

BADASS

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Detective_810.png

Drazar
12-19-2009, 10:55 PM
fun fact: the cluemaster design used in The Batman was the ORIGINAL design for their Riddler. >_<
Canon Cluemaster might be a lower tier villain, but the guy had his moments when Stephanie bited the dust.

Anyhow yeah Tony Daniel has his blog, he updates it fairly regularly with pencils, covers and sometime videos with him pencilling.

Prince Daka
12-20-2009, 12:41 AM
"The Batman" changed every villain... that's why everyone hates that show.

glad to know Tony Daniel has made it clear about Riddler returning to evil. hope it's not diet evil either. i wanna see Riddler cause some chaos in Gotham. if he's gonna stay in the "Gotham City Sirens" book he should get Query & Echo back too, since that book stars female villains.

what's Cluemaster doin' nowadays anyway?

TheCluemaster
12-20-2009, 08:29 AM
"The Batman" changed every villain... that's why everyone hates that show.

glad to know Tony Daniel has made it clear about Riddler returning to evil. hope it's not diet evil either. i wanna see Riddler cause some chaos in Gotham. if he's gonna stay in the "Gotham City Sirens" book he should get Query & Echo back too, since that book stars female villains.

what's Cluemaster doin' nowadays anyway?

Last thing I remember he was angry at Batman for his daughter's "death", used the alias Aaron Blake (I think), did some political stuff to try to discredit Batman, and fought him as the Cluemaster. (The reason he looks bad in those pictures is because he saw 3 of his friends die, saved Major Disaster twice and got shot multiple times by terrorist on a Suicide Squad mission.)

Prince Daka
12-20-2009, 01:52 PM
Last thing I remember he was angry at Batman for his daughter's "death", used the alias Aaron Blake (I think), did some political stuff to try to discredit Batman, and fought him as the Cluemaster. (The reason he looks bad in those pictures is because he saw 3 of his friends die, saved Major Disaster twice and got shot multiple times by terrorist on a Suicide Squad mission.)

Sounds epic

Drazar
12-21-2009, 10:11 PM
Gotham City Sirens #9

written by paul dini; art and cover by guillem march
the riddler continues leading the gotham city sirens into a labyrinth of puzzling predicaments. Is edward nigma friend or foe? Whatever the case may be, the girls are going to get their revenge
on sale february 24, 2010



Gotham City Sirens #10

written by paul dini; art and cover by guillem march
is the riddler friend or foe? One thing's for sure – he definitely isn't making life easy for catwoman, poison ivy and harley quinn!
On sale march 10, 2010

TheCluemaster
12-21-2009, 10:35 PM
What's happened Gotham City Sirens so far?

Drazar
12-21-2009, 10:42 PM
I don't enjoy it whatsoever. It's Paul Dini writing the girls he wants with this artist showing their butts and tits in the most exposed ways ever along with alot of BDSM elements on it. Some like the story telling, but i just haven't enjoyed it whatsoever.

What has happened tho? Hush has appeared along with an old sidekick of Joker who wanted to kill Harley Quinn along with 1 issue of Riddler being a badass.

TheCluemaster
12-21-2009, 10:45 PM
I don't enjoy it whatsoever. It's Paul Dini writing the girls he wants with this artist showing their butts and tits in the most exposed ways ever along with alot of BDSM elements on it. Some like the story telling, but i just haven't enjoyed it whatsoever.

What has happened tho? Hush has appeared along with an old sidekick of Joker who wanted to kill Harley Quinn along with 1 issue of Riddler being a badass.

1 issue? Cluemaster had a Suicide Squad issue and a whole story arc of being BADASS.

Drazar
12-21-2009, 10:52 PM
well the comic is Gotham Sirens so Riddler is just guest starring in it.

TheCluemaster
12-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Yeh that's true. What's the best bat-book out?

Drazar
12-21-2009, 10:56 PM
Batman and Robin easily. Long live the new dynamic duo!

royal flush
12-22-2009, 07:40 AM
Batman and Robin easily. Long live the new dynamic duo!

agreed!! jason todd ftw!!

Prince Daka
12-22-2009, 02:00 PM
just read "Arkham Reborn" 1 & 2 (of 3). pretty interesting mini so far. #2 was a laugh riot for me.

i agree Gotham City Sirens isn't very good other than the 1 issue where Riddler was a badass. i still don't get why catwoman would be hangin around poison ivy & harley.

i've been meaning to check out the Batman & Robin book since ive heard only good things. Damien Wayne is definitely an interesting character.

how many bat books are there at the moment anyway?

Drazar
12-22-2009, 02:04 PM
Batman and Robin
Batman
Red Robin
Batgirl
Azrael
Detective Comics
Outsiders
Streets of Gotham
Gotham Sirens.

Pre-Batman Reborn it was:
Batman
Robin
Nightwing
Detective Comics
Batgirl
Batman and Outsiders
Birds of Prey.

Batwoman comic was just confirmed which is FULL of win. Greg Rucka is an amazing male writer who writes great female characters withouth the need of sexifying them AT ALL. Dunno who will take over Detective Comics. I doubt Streets of Gotham is getting canceled since the sales are good and Paul Dini has such a fanbase he can hold a comic title all by himself easily, tho i do wish Gotham Sirens would sharpen up. :D

Really my top 3 picks would be:
1) Batman and Robin
2) Detective Comics
3) Streets of Gotham

Batman title would be the 4th, but Judd Winnick's arc was just bad so avoid him. Tony Daniel has obviously impressed both of us. ;)