The Batman animated series

[iamtombombadil]

Not TAS written by Dini, but THE BATMAN.

How many of you like this series. I loved TAS and grew up watching them, but I do like "The Batman" too. I am just not the biggest fan of Joker's look and am disappointed that there are no "Scarecrow" episodes.

[Blitxxx]

Well, to me, anything is better than Batman Beyond....

[lukeob94]

the batman was kinda different.the joker was a complete mess in apperance but wasn't that bad as a character.i didn't like the animation too much either.alotta the storylines were changed too.i didn't like how poison ivy was a teen anger and at that kinda freaky,i liked how she kinda looked like a greek godess but it didn't come out as well as it could have.i don't think scarecrow was in because of batmna begins.i think their some ruler where 2 bat characters can't be used in media at the same time,cuz robin couldn't be used till teen titans was over.i wanna right my own batman ainmated series when i get older,thats why i'm gonna go to college for screen writing

[fatal shadow]

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[Old_BenKenobi]

I don't mind it. But it was an important show. it was very much a kid's show, and because of that I'm sure there are many new little Bat-fans running around because of it.

I also like the Joker they used. It's not THE Joker, but I think it's a very cool interpretation.

[SolidSnake_123]

I thought it was terrible, hehe.

[ThatGuyHarris]

I didn't like the art style and basically ignored the entire run. Now that it's over I've gone back and picked through some episodes. It's not horrible, I suppose, but it's no Batman: TAS which set the standard for all modern era Batman toons in my opinion.

[SolidSnake_123]

I didn't like the art style and basically ignored the entire run. Now that it's over I've gone back and picked through some episodes. It's not horrible, I suppose, but it's no Batman: TAS which set the standard for all modern era Batman toons in my opinion.

Yeah I agree, its not all that TERRIBLE, just a bit bad, hehe.

[Creature of the Night]

It took me heaps to get used to but it was good but not better than TAS.

[Mistress of Fear]

It wasn't to bad but I could never get over with the new Joker interpretation and didn't watch it(plus no Scarecrow). I did catch a few episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold with that they tried to make campy but still....not like the 60s? show.....Should of just had Adam West voice Batman though. XD
That one was actually pretty entertaining...well the episodes I watched were.

[DiamondBlade]

The Batman's first 2 seasons were the best.
The third one had Batgirl introduced, and it was "meh." She was portrayed as a crime fighting kid, not a vigilante that is, more or less, just as much a threat to criminal as Batman himself.
The fourth season had Robin - D-ick Grayson - brought over into the show, and that season was "alright".
Up next was the fifth and final season - which was horrible in every aspect possible. It introduced the audience to the concept of Batman joining the Justice league - only to give each of the League members the most ridiculous backstory that can come to mind. Not only that, but the stories regarding Batman were also of no consolation: One episode even involved Batman using Green Lantern's ring for flight. GAH!

EDIT: ROFL, the forums's curse filter cencored Grayson's first name.

[fatal shadow]

I did catch a few episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold with that they tried to make campy but still....not like the 60s? show.....Should of just had Adam West voice Batman though. XD
That one was actually pretty entertaining...well the episodes I watched were.

Did you see the teaser for Trials of the Demon?

[Mr_Scarecrow_Goes_To_Town]

Well, to me, anything is better than Batman Beyond....

Heretic. :p

I couldn't stand The Batman. It was an affront to everything great that had been established by TAS.

[SolidSnake_123]

Heretic. :p

I couldn't stand The Batman. It was an affront to everything great that had been established by TAS.

I agree 99.999999 percent.

[Old_BenKenobi]

I love how Bruce Timm was charged to make a more kid friendly show with a hip, teenage Batman akin to Spider-Man-esque quips, and he ended up making the darkest and most depressing Batman show in the character's history!

[fatal shadow]

I liked Beyond.

Nowhere near TAS, but still good.

[Mistress of Fear]

Did you see the teaser for Trials of the Demon?

No I saw the beginning on youtube though and the ending of it yesterday morning..

[fatal shadow]

The beginning of the main plot or the whole ep itself? There are these so called "teasers", the episode I mentioned had one with Scarecrow.

[Drazar]

It wasn't to bad but I could never get over with the new Joker interpretation and didn't watch it(plus no Scarecrow). I did catch a few episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold with that they tried to make campy but still....not like the 60s? show.....Should of just had Adam West voice Batman though. XD
That one was actually pretty entertaining...well the episodes I watched were.

Adam West will voice Thomas Wayne in season2 of Brave and Bold... Julia Newmar (Catwoman from 60s) will be Martha Wayne. :)

[Old_BenKenobi]

And Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy will appear in the same episode as West and Newmar. :D

[butterskenny]

I hated "The Batman"

[batfan08]

I liked it for what it was,but better than beyond?

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[Mistress of Fear]

The beginning of the main plot or the whole ep itself? There are these so called "teasers", the episode I mentioned had one with Scarecrow.

Just the beginning part with the Scarecrow and some after. I had to leave after so I never finished watching it.

[Riddling Artist]

i tohught The Batman was great for what it was.... filelr unttil Batman: The Animated Series returns :D

[Old_BenKenobi]

More like responsible for the downfall of Batman in the DCAU. :p

[Zombie_in_zen]

The Batman lacked a certain something for me. I have the DVDs for Batman TAS and that just seemed so much deeper in terms of stories and characters. The Batman takes it's self too seriously for what it is.

I like the art style though... and the new take on the characters. ESP Joker.

I'm loving the Brave and the Bold though. I like the way Batman always plays it straight but the laughs come from the reaction of people around him. The Robot Santa episode is the best... when Tornado gives Batman that mug with 'worlds greatest detective' written on it lol.

[Old_BenKenobi]

I love Brave and the Bold because Batman in that one is determined to be a hero. It's all about the heroics.

[EnragedSith]

Not TAS written by Dini, but THE BATMAN.

Damn!

How many of you like this series.

I can't stand five minutes of 'The Batman' myself, though I'm willing to admit that I was spoiled by TAS which was a masterpiece (the whole DCAU is good, but nothing can truly stand shoulder to shoulder with Batman: The Animated Series)


I am just not the biggest fan of Joker's look and am disappointed that there are no "Scarecrow" episodes.

Most of their take on the characters was just plain odd, 'The Batman's Rastafarian Monkey Joker is one such example (I despise it myself)

As for no Scarecrow...that might have something to do with the Bat embargo

[Gi Kieo Li]

I love The Batman.
The Joker was the the best I have seen.
I never liked the suit outfit Joker as much as the lunatic one in TB.
It was scarier in the first series but later got a bit lighter. Not as good but still awesome.
The old theme tune was best.

I do not like Batman The Brave And Bold as much, but it is good.

[JackieFiest]

I can't stand five minutes of 'The Batman' myself, though I'm willing to admit that I was spoiled by TAS which was a masterpiece (the whole DCAU is good, but nothing can truly stand shoulder to shoulder with Batman: The Animated Series)

This is pretty much my problem, too. I was introduced to the Batman mythos via B:TAS, which was an award winning series. But, unfortunately, not everything is that good so most things are meh.

I also agree with the person who posted the picture of Hamill's Joker looking at The Batman's Joker like :hmm:. That's kind of how I feel about it, too. That dude even looks weird.

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[mwkcope]

Wait,Dini did this hackjob?!Note to self,NEVER watch any Batman cartoons unless they are approved by the fans!

[Drazar]

Wait,Dini did this hackjob?!Note to self,NEVER watch any Batman cartoons unless they are approved by the fans!

Thats hard to say. Alot of fans approve Brave and Bold except the grim dark lovers. Whats sadly the sad part is that they barely even watch the show so how can they judge something. =*(

[DarkKnightReturns]

Thats hard to say. Alot of fans approve Brave and Bold except the grim dark lovers. Whats sadly the sad part is that they barely even watch the show so how can they judge something. =*(

It's all a matter of taste. Some people like the darker Batman, some people like the cheesier Batman. I've seen enough of TBATB by now to form a solid opinion on it, and I think it's a very well-made cartoon, but I just don't agree with it. I accept it and respect it as a lovingly crafted and fully deserving contribute to the Batman mythos, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

[Drazar]

It's still the most loyal Batman incarnation in the comic mythos and it archieved this in just 1 season. It's glad to hear you respect it, but we've had some "trolls" who try to bash every single aspect of it simply because they can't approve a non-grim dark Batman.

[DarkKnightReturns]

It's still the most loyal Batman incarnation in the comic mythos and it archieved this in just 1 season. It's glad to hear you respect it, but we've had some "trolls" who try to bash every single aspect of it simply because they can't approve a non-grim dark Batman.

I would say TBATB has captured roughly half of Batman's comic history. I remember him being conceived by Bob Kane and Bill Finger originally as a real dark figure, but then again if the modern era stayed true to his original vision then we'd have a Batman who was okay with using guns and killing villains, and part of the charm that makes Batman the way he is is his reluctance to do either albeit being very efficient with non-lethal methods.

As I mentioned in another topic, TBATB has done good at representing Batman in his Golden Age and Adam West days, which, however repulsed it may be by some fans, is still just as big an imprint in Batman's history as his darker incarnations are. I think by now the cultural impact of Batman is solidified, oddly enough, as two sides of a coin (no pun intended regarding Harvey); campy and fantastical, and dark and brutal. Even BTAS which was revered for it's darkness has several instances where there's some nod to the cheerfully beautiful absurdity things like Adam West have made immortal (in many episodes, such as Christmas With The Joker, Almost Got 'Im, The Strange Secret Of Bruce Wayne, etc.)

So, I say, fine with TBATB and whatever else they're going to make paying tribute to the immortalized incarnation of camp Batman, just as long as his roots that Bob Kane and Bill Finger intended aren't forgotten, which I don't think is going to be much of a problem anytime soon.

[Drazar]

Oh Brave and Bold has it's dark moments. It's funny how this show is regarded as the brightest and happiest Batman serie yet, it still has the most disturbing, sad and grim dark origin tale for Batman. Heck i still can't believe how much balls this show has.

Not to mention all the people they killed in Season 1. From one of Batman's sensei's to the heroic death of Ted Kord. =O Yeah at it's heart this show is about pure heart and heroism, but when you have moments such as Jim Craddick's execution to Solomon Grundy trying to cut a man's head open for his brains. It makes me chuckle at the campy comments. :D

Also this Batman personality is pretty much the same as BTAS and The Batman. All shows have Batman in his Bronze Age persona. Determined detective solving crimes.

And yes i do find this serie much more loyal to the Batman mythos than what DCAU managed in 4 different shows put together for their Batman. I'm also happy the show doesn't bother that much with having early day Bruce-Batman adventures, but here his on his prime-time fightning crime globally just like in the Justice League show.

Gosh just 2 weeks for the Justice Society of America episode. :thumb:

PS. I wouldn't give any credit to Bob Kane by the way. Guy's nothing more than a thief. ;( Bill Finger deserves the credit.

[DarkKnightReturns]

I wouldn't give any credit to Bob Kane by the way. Guy's nothing more than a thief. ;( Bill Finger deserves the credit.

I really wish people would credit Bill Finger more often. You practically never see it, in comics, movies, anything. It makes me really sad.

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[Drazar]

I really wish people would credit Bill Finger more often. You practically never see it, in comics, movies, anything. It makes me really sad.

Bob Kane even regretted it. Did he do anything about it? Nope. :(

I just don't get why some doesn't like this series. It's still Batman. What's wrong with it? So what if the characters change up a bit? It's still Batman! I like The Animated Series, The Batman AND Brave and the Bold. They're all great!

Eh my problem personally with The Batman was few things:
A) Too censored. I don't know why Warner Brothers censored this show so much. Batman was always happy, his parents' death was never touched.
B) Some of the designs just didn't match the character and their supposed personality.

Tho the show had it's moments. Good voice acting from Batman, Joker, Penquin, Alfred and Catwoman definatly. :thumb: Beatifullly fluid animation with cool combat. Wided the rogue gallery of Batman and introduced the newer generation of Bat-fans villains such as Black Mask.

My favorite episode of "The Batman " was definatly Artifacts. :) But really it's just that i find BTAS and Brave and Bold so much better personally.

[D.A.V.E.]

Bob Kane even regretted it. Did he do anything about it? Nope. :(



Eh my problem personally with The Batman was few things:
A) Too censored. I don't know why Warner Brothers censored this show so much. Batman was always happy, his parents' death was never touched.
B) Some of the designs just didn't match the character and their supposed personality.

Tho the show had it's moments. Good voice acting from Batman, Joker, Penquin, Alfred and Catwoman definatly. :thumb: Beatifullly fluid animation with cool combat. Wided the rogue gallery of Batman and introduced the newer generation of Bat-fans villains such as Black Mask.

My favorite episode of "The Batman " was definatly Artifacts. :) But really it's just that i find BTAS and Brave and Bold so much better personally.

A) Much of the first season was Batman moping about his parent's death. It was mentioned in the first episode, there was a flashback in the Mr. Freeze episode, Hugo Strange and Clayface alluded to it, Bruce mentions it in the Wrath episode, and it was a major point in Robin's origin. Even D.A.V.E. mocks Batman over his parents' death in the final battle.

B) Agreed. I love their interpretation of the Riddler, for example, but the design never really suited him.

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