Batman Arkham Asylum 2 ?

[giz]

hello,, i was just thinking

it would be nice to play this game in a co-op,, for example you play batman, a friend of yours play with robin!!!

yes arkham asylum with batman & robin

its just a idea:p what do you people think

[Ahasverus]

No and no. No more Arkham and please, no Robin.
1- Arkham was perfectly detailed in this game, so, the new game couldn't be in the same arkham and that's completely illogic because we could explore every inch of it.
2- If it were placed in the same Arkham, wouldn't it be boring?
3- Robin doesn't exist in the game's universe, Batman said: "I work better alone"
4- Rocksteady knows that 60% of the world don't like Robin, putting him in could damage sells.
5- Batman works better alone.

[Drazar]

3- Robin doesn't exist in the game's universe, Batman said: "I work better alone"

He says that to a guard. Taking that as "I dont need sidekicks" is pretty wrong since he's the one who trains them for a good reason.

4- Rocksteady knows that 60% of the world don't like Robin, putting him in could damage sells.

Geez, how about you show where you found these statistics, unless these are made up numbers? :rolleyes:

5- Batman works better alone.

Storywise: No
This game: yes, since it has horror elements and for being "Batman's roughest night"

[Mr_Scarecrow_Goes_To_Town]

I always thought before the games release that the sequel would be in Gotham as a No Man's Land deal, since Joker blows up Gotham. But with the disappointing Titan Joker ending I guess that's all out the window. :(

[Old_BenKenobi]

I have a pretty good grip on what I'd love to see in a sequel. I posted it in another thread though, but the thread died a few posts after so I don't think it'll be spam or anything:

Setting: Gotham City
Story: Based on No Man's Land (not a direct adaptation). A disaster has fractured Gotham and has been declared a No Man's Land. Entering or leaving is illegal. Many criminals have remained and war over territory. Batman, Gordon, Oracle and a few officers of the GCPD have stayed behind to clean up the city. Money is worthless, with bartering making up the economy.
Villains: Two-Face, Penguin, Freeze, Poison Ivy, Joker, Harley Quinn, Black Mask, Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, Scarface/Ventriloquist, Zsasz, Scarecrow, as well as a few gangs.

New gameplay:
- Various fighting styles. Choose between Stealthy (Precise blows that are very power, accurate and quiet, but don't build up combos and don't allow for counters. Best used for stealth portions.), Agile (very fast and acrobatic attacks useful for thinning large crowds, but aren't very powerful) and Powerful (Big, powerful blows, sweeping kicks and lots of damage, but slow and ineffective on large crowds) Able to switch between the three on the fly.

- Radio scanning. Ability to scan radio signals and cell-phones, as well as nearby voices for information.

- Vehicle play. Drive the Batmobile, Batcycle, Batboat and Batwing. Over the course of the game you unlock each vehicle and can upgrade your previous ones. Eventually you can summon them remotely. Pedestrians will automatically dodge the Batmobile and stay off course and you can have it upgraded to automatically swerve itself to avoid nicking objects by holding a button. The Batcycle is much more agile and can be upgraded keep Batman from falling off and keep it upright. The Batboat can lower itself just beloe the surface for stealth purposes. The Batwing can be called to you, in which case you grapple up to it. You don't have to land it, you can jump out and glide to your target and the Wing will be safe.

- Territory. The disaster that has fractured Gotham has left criminals in charge. All of the villains have formed powerful gangs and have staked territory across Gotham. Several gangs have formed and have their own territory's too. The GCPD is it's own gang and has it's turf, and Batman has his own turf. Each gang territory is split into smaller territories, mostly based in neighbourhoods or around public buildings. The territory Batman claims is defended by it's inhabitants. He can assign Nightwing and Robin to defend various areas.that are likely to come under attack. Any territory that doesn't belong to Batman or the GCPD is hostile, and Batman will come after attack.

- Sidekicks. Batman can be joined by Nightwing or Robin in his adventures. They can be given orders and can fight alongside Batman if he desires. In stealthy areas they will not give away his position and can fend for themselves should they come under fire.

- Multiplayer. The game can be played in co-op with a friend via split screen or online. The main story can be played. There are twice as many enemies when playing online. The two-players can separate, but can't go far before being called back by Batman. If the 2nd player doesn't comply Batman sends him away as punishment and ends the multiplayer.

- Customization. Alter and tweak the Batsuit, Batmobile, Batcycle, Batwing, Batboat and Utility belt.

Batsuit mods include:

Ears - Long ears can be grabbed by enemies, but short ears don't have as much range when scanning radio.

Cowl Armour - Light armour lets you counter earlier (more flexible head and unmuffled ears = better awareness of surroundings). A more armoured cowl lowers your response time but lets you take more hits.

Colour-scheme - Using a dark grey or black suit and/or black cape makes you harder to see, but using a grey suit and/or blue cape makes you more shocking, stunning enemies momentarily when you reveal yourself to them. Changing the cape colour changes the colour of the gloves, mask, briefs and boots as well.

Bat-emblem - All black makes you harder to see, but the black and yellow one makes you more resistent to gunfire, since gunfire is aimed more at your armoured chest.

Forearm blades - Heavily curved blades with pointy tips add extra damage to punches, but stubbier, flatter blades let you block/counter knife attacks.

Suit construction - Three options: Light, armoured, powered. Light suit grants little protection but makes you faster. Armoured suit is standard, giving good protection. Powered makes your blows hit harder, but it weighs you down and makes you slow.

Boots - Heavy duty armoured give more power to kicks. Lighter boots make for quietor steps.

Batmobile, Batcycle, Batboat and Batwing:

Adjust the profile of the vehicle, the power, the propulsion, the weaponry and any visual cues (fins, logos, etc).

Utility Belt: Lot of gadgetry to play with, as well as a variety of belts.

Gadgets:

Bat-Rope: A rope-and-batarang that is thrown and used to climb walls. Low range, lower speed of ascension. Can be used as a primitive Batclaw as well.

Grappel: Mandatory once unlocked. Use to scale buildings. Range is upgradable.

Basic Batarang: Mandatory. Use to knock down foes and occasionally interact with environment.

Mini Batarang: More resembleing ninja stars, Batman can't throw these as far and they don't knock down enemies, but he can throw up to three at once (after upgrades) and either hit three target or pull all three on one target. They pierce skin and cripple hands, preventing them from holding guns. (must aim and be at close range to do so)

Noisemaker: Pellet thrown that creates a cracking noise, distracting enemies and moving them.

Sonic Batarang: Draws closest enemy to a spot and can be detonated. Once used in an area can't be used again.

Remote-Control Batarang: Can be steered to take down multiple enemies.

Smoke pellets: Used to create cloud of smoke to hide in momentarily and used for a quick escape.

Explosive Gel: Plastic explosive that can be denonated remotely. Upgraded to detonate automatically when a foe approaches and to allow individual detonation in case of mroe than one trap set. Only three traps can be used at once.

Acid Gel: Can be sprayed on weak surfaces and remotely activated to melt through something silently. Can be used to set traps by creating puddles of acid, allowing you to block paths on walkways.

Bat Claw: Grappel upgrade that lets you snare enemies. Can be upgraded further to fire three hooks at once to pull down walls and target multiple enemies.

Zip-Line: Fires a line forward and backward and pulls you forward to cross gaps. Can be used to kick. Can be uprgraded to climb shallow inclines.

Lockpicks: Let you open locked doors silently.

Cryptographer: Lets you hack into computer systems and open electronic doors.

Rebreatther: Miniature breath mask that lets him survive without air for some time.

Bat signal: Remote control that calls Bats from the Batcave to his current location. Distracts and scares enemies, but Bats take a bit of time to arrive at location.

At the start of the game, most of Gotham is closed off and you're stuck using one of your emergeancy Batcaves. You're poorly equipped, but as you play you unlock more Batcaves and more equipment. You also get better belts with more capacity. Each gadget takes up a certain number of spaces in your belt, so you have to pick and choose the best for the job. Robin and Nightwing can be customized as well, but less in-depth.

[Ahasverus]

He says that to a guard. Taking that as "I dont need sidekicks" is pretty wrong since he's the one who trains them for a good reason.

Geez, how about you show where you found these statistics, unless these are made up numbers? :rolleyes:

Storywise: No
This game: yes, since it has horror elements and for being "Batman's roughest night"
Oh yes Drazar, people DON'T like robin, because Batman is such a dark character and very dramatic, Robin is a rainbow paint in a gothic catedral. Yes, comics geeks love him (And not everyone...) but certainly, the world doesn't like Robin. Ok, perhaps the original Robin, Grayson is also a tragic character and very dramatic, and Nightwing is an excelent complement to batman because is dark too, but the other robins.., yuck. I'm sure, if DC again makes a poll to kill Robin, people will kill him again.

Batman alone is great; he know how to cares about himself, he does his work. Alfred is good enough, he's the only partner he needs, or perhaps Oracle. Batman & Robin is always a fail because they are taking care of each other and aren't focused in making their job. perhaps Robin will work as a standalone character, but world needs Batman. World doesn't need Robin.

[Sterlington]

I have a pretty good grip on what I'd love to see in a sequel. I posted it in another thread though, but the thread died a few posts after so I don't think it'll be spam or anything:


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best idea all day

[SolidSnake_123]

Great idea Kenobi!

[Gopher_777]

@ Old Ben: GREAT IDEA!!!! i love the customization options!

[Old_BenKenobi]

I suspect that a major factor in why the world doesn't like Robin because of the Adam West show. Batman's gotten himself darkened up and really serious with the latest movies, but Robin hasn't gotten the treatment so people still remember him in the booty-shorts and saying crap like "HOLY ELEPHANTS BATMAN!".

Robin got good treatment in the Animated series, because he wasn't shown as a kid sidekick, he was a partner. And Batman needs a partner. Not all the time, but there are some situations even he can't handle alone. It's not like Robin makes Batman any less grim. Their dynamic makes Batman more interesting, IMO. The same way Harley does with Joker. People hated Jason Todd because he was a *****. But Tim Drake is a good Robin and a good character to read. So do I think Robin should be in a Batman game (not Arkham)? Yes. Do I think Nightwing deserves the same treatment? Yes. We've already got Oracle. Bring in Nightwing and Robin too. BTAS did it best though. Robin was part time.

Give the option to choose whether to use Batman alone or with Robin and everyone's happy.

[Drazar]

Oh yes Drazar, people DON'T like robin, because Batman is such a dark character and very dramatic, Robin is a rainbow paint in a gothic catedral. Yes, comics geeks love him (And not everyone...) but certainly, the world doesn't like Robin. Ok, perhaps the original Robin, Grayson is also a tragic character and very dramatic, and Nightwing is an excelent complement to batman because is dark too, but the other robins.., yuck. I'm sure, if DC again makes a poll to kill Robin, people will kill him again.

Batman alone is great; he know how to cares about himself, he does his work. Alfred is good enough, he's the only partner he needs, or perhaps Oracle. Batman & Robin is always a fail because they are taking care of each other and aren't focused in making their job. perhaps Robin will work as a standalone character, but world needs Batman. World doesn't need Robin.

Ahasverus please don't talk about subjects you don't know about.

if you say people don't like Robin, then why is Richard Grayson and Tim Drake so popular? They have/had their own comic titles that lasted for nearly 200 issues (12 issues a pear, so thats 14-16 years of great comics right there).

Nightwing is dark too? I''m sorry but this just exactly shows you you don't know what youre talking about. Richard Grayson is smiling, joke cracking crime fighter whos now the Batman, and guess what? He smiles, he jokes and isn't all "grim dark Batman" infact, he is very much like the 70s Bruce Wayne Batman, so again: get your facts.

Tim Drake on the other hand... is very Frank Miller Batman. He is grim, dark, obssessed with justice and yeah, you get the picture.

Also regarding the fans killing off Robin in 80s, that was because the Richard Grayson FANS did not like Jason Todd, they wanted Richard Grayson BACK. Heck, even writers such as Frank Miller OPPOSED to the idea of killing off Jason Todd.

Fact is: Robin is popular, why else does Tim Drake have his own comic book title? Why is Richard Grayson the new Batman? There popular characters in the comic book world, and since you don't apparently read comics, you just make claims that are based off... thats right, just your opinions.

Bottom line: Robin is important aspect to Batman, withouth Robin there wouldn't be Batman, and really who cares if the rest of the world as you claim doesn't like Robin? They can get to know the great character of Robin. It won't hurt the sales, i mean people here said "Joker on PS3 will hurt the sales omigod" and guess what? It didn't.

[SolidSnake_123]

Ahasverus please don't talk about subjects you don't know about.

if you say people don't like Robin, then why is Richard Grayson and Tim Drake so popular? They have/had their own comic titles that lasted for nearly 200 issues (12 issues a pear, so thats 14-16 years of great comics right there).

Nightwing is dark too? I''m sorry but this just exactly shows you you don't know what youre talking about. Richard Grayson is smiling, joke cracking crime fighter whos now the Batman, and guess what? He smiles, he jokes and isn't all "grim dark Batman" infact, he is very much like the 70s Bruce Wayne Batman, so again: get your facts.

Tim Drake on the other hand... is very Frank Miller Batman. He is grim, dark, obssessed with justice and yeah, you get the picture.

Also regarding the fans killing off Robin in 80s, that was because the Richard Grayson FANS did not like Jason Todd, they wanted Richard Grayson BACK. Heck, even writers such as Frank Miller OPPOSED to the idea of killing off Jason Todd.

Fact is: Robin is popular, why else does Tim Drake have his own comic book title? Why is Richard Grayson the new Batman? There popular characters in the comic book world, and since you don't apparently read comics, you just make claims that are based off... thats right, just your opinions.

Bottom line: Robin is important aspect to Batman, withouth Robin there wouldn't be Batman, and really who cares if the rest of the world as you claim doesn't like Robin? They can get to know the great character of Robin. It won't hurt the sales, i mean people here said "Joker on PS3 will hurt the sales omigod" and guess what? It didn't.

I have to agree completely with you Robin is a great character, but one thing I disagree with is that I don't think if there wasn't a Robin there would be no Batman, I don't completely agree with that.

[Drazar]

Batman was doing poorly on sales and Bill Finger wanted Batman to have someone to talk to, hence they created Robin.

[SolidSnake_123]

Batman was doing poorly on sales and Bill Finger wanted Batman to have someone to talk to, hence they created Robin.

Wow, really? Wow, I guess I learn new things every day from the mods, lol :thumb:

[Monster No69]

Im just hoping for a survival room. The challenge rooms are great but what about mode similar to horde from GOW or survival mode in Tekken, I would love to see how far I could make it. It should not end and you only get a portion of your health back at the end of the round, how much depends on how well you do.

[Old_BenKenobi]

It's also been said a few times in the comics that Batman needs a Robin. Not only does Robin help him, he also helps Batman with his humanity. It's been said that Batman is a psychological monster that threatens to overtake Bruce's mind and turn him into a raging psychopath. Robin helps keep that monster at bay, much more than Alfred or Gordon, because Robin is the only one out there on the field with Batman.

[KillerCrocofS**T]

I think Robin should be playable for specific missions but not a tandem character like Shiva in RE5, I think it would hurt and limit the gameplay. I suggest breaking them up to play their individual parts but maybe for some intense boss battles that require diversions and teamwork.

Also, I'm all for Kenobi's suggestions...just not the batsuit color/insignia scheme stuff. I find it hard to believe that he would concern himself with changing his costume every 4 screens to scare different thugs.

Maybe after completing the game under certain conditions you unlock new costumes that have different effects (be them psychological or physical), but i dont wanna pause it every 5 minutes just to change a costume.

And i like the combat in this one so i wouldn't change it very much aside from adding different stealth attacks and take downs.

[Old_BenKenobi]

Also, I'm all for Kenobi's suggestions...just not the batsuit color/insignia scheme stuff. I find it hard to believe that he would concern himself with changing his costume every 4 screens to scare different thugs.

Maybe after completing the game under certain conditions you unlock new costumes that have different effects (be them psychological or physical), but i dont wanna pause it every 5 minutes just to change a costume.


Batman's costume changes from artist to artist, so DC's official word on it is that he has a bunker in the Batcave with every possible suit in it. That's what I had in mind. Same with the vehicle customization. It's been shown that he has every Batmobile he's ever had in the batcave in tip-top shape. So it's not really customizing as much as it is picking very specific gear. And of course, changing your costume would require a return to a Batcave to do so, not from picking out of a menu in the pause screen. :p

[apple@thebatmanuniverse]

very simple what i would want in part 2

1. open world (gotham is our play ground)

2. 1-4 players co-op (friends can be villains or heroes)

3. Drive that awesomeness batmobile that rocksteady make us hit bane with! (we can still save it, go in gotham bay and save it!!!

[Ahasverus]

Your idea is weird batunivetse :S I don't know if a coop could work as exellent as Arkham Asylum...

[marvinfish]

ahaverus is wrong about batmans side kicks not being in that universe because if you go and see joker in the visitors center joker makes a comment on batmans sidekicks costume

[Old_BenKenobi]

Your idea is weird batunivetse :S I don't know if a coop could work as exellent as Arkham Asylum...

Arkham was a great environment. But playing through it again in a new story in a new game would just feel contrived and repetitive. The logical place to set the next batman game is in Gotham, and you can't put that much detail into an open city, it's just not feasible. So it's best to forget about the atmosphere and isolation of Arkham when dreaming of a sequel because frankly, either Arkham gets done, again or they go into Gotham and try something new.

[Sashman]

This game is perfect. It would be hard to do this again. Why a second visit to Arkham? This would be boring!

But playing Batman again would be cool. Maybe Wayne Manor instead of Arkham? Maybe the villains captured Robin and found out about Batmans secret identity? And they all are invading the manor? Maybe this could work...

[lt_skittles]

It shouldn't be called Batman: Arkham Asylum 2

[Drazar]

Batman 2: Facing Double Trouble, in the second installation of Rocksteady's doubletastic double-the-fun game where Two-Face takes the danger to the 2nd level!

Should obviously be the title. ^^

[lt_skittles]

Batman 2: Facing Double Trouble, in the second installation of Rocksteady's doubletastic double-the-fun game where Two-Face takes the danger to the 2nd level!

Should obviously be the title. ^^

lol

[zechelseaboy]

I would rather it be in a new bit of Arkham at the start to then get the Bat boat to Gotham (i dont know how this (arkham asylum ends) so i dont know if it would work, also have a massive map of gotham where you can drive the bat mobile about and be able to go back to arkham. :).
Or,
like a new villain (a made up one)(would it work) which challenges batman and joker so joker gets all his partners and so does jokers, (which will make it co-op) and they have to stop loads of these new villains (which are massive 10 times the size of bane) and then when they stop it batman and joker face off against each other

[lt_skittles]

I figured out a name they should give the next game

Batman: time 2-face your fears.

[Black-Xero]

i've always wanted them add some new exclusive original villain that's able to stand toe-to-toe with batman.no super-powers just skills like batman.his new greatest enemy.if not than it would be better to add either ra's al ghul or prometheus.the joker is awesome but he's not powerful

[SolidSnake_123]

I think the game should be in gotham, I think most of us have explored every inch of Arkham and its time to move on, plus, I think the Title should be Batman: Gotham.

[Old_BenKenobi]

This game is perfect. It would be hard to do this again. Why a second visit to Arkham? This would be boring!

But playing Batman again would be cool. Maybe Wayne Manor instead of Arkham? Maybe the villains captured Robin and found out about Batmans secret identity? And they all are invading the manor? Maybe this could work...

Wayne Manor would be boring. It's not like Arkham where there's a mansion, a hospital, a prison, a greenhouse, etc. It's just a house and a Batcave.

Anything related to Bruce Wayne would be boring, IMO. Anything useful Bruce can do he can do is costume from his cave.

[Mani-Man]

It could work if they would re-build arham,a free roam batman game like spiderman would suck IMO.But one thing i would like to do would be walk around in the wayne mansion,and the big batcave under it!

[Old_BenKenobi]

Why would they rebuild Arkham?

[Pattycakes]

i think a game with robin would be awesome. if it began shortly after the first game ended than i suppose it would be tough to integrate him into the story, but it would be cool to have batman and robin's paths cross every now and again according to the way the story line works but being able to choose which character you want to play through the game with, now that would be saweet. i think if that happened with all of robins acrobatic moves he would be an awesome character to have in the next batman. but who knows it will be years before we see a sequel in progress....:(