What happened to the Arkham Batcave in the new "Gadgets" trailer?

[EliteF50]

I was watching over some gameplay, and I quickly noticed how bad the Batcave looks in the new trailer compared to a video released earlier this month by IGN.

Here's a comparison:

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo15/EliteF50-2/ArkhamGood.png

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo15/EliteF50-2/ArkhamUgly.png

I'm hoping it was just a screw up in the editing. What do you think?

[sd921]

it kind of looks the same just different gamma

[EliteF50]

Look at the textures. They're definitely not the same.

[Solidkill3r]

It could be the textures haven't redrawn yet. but i cant be certain.

[sd921]

ohh now i see your right, thats kind of weird i wonder why its like that:hmm::confused:

[EliteF50]

It could be the textures haven't redrawn yet. but i cant be certain.

You may be right. I have noticed some very minor texture pop-in during the demo. But why would they use that clip in an official trailer? :confused:

[sd921]

You may be right. I have noticed some very minor texture pop-in during the demo. But why would they use that clip in an official trailer? :confused:

maybe they didint realize till it aired

[SilentGuardian]

hm maybe it is one of the cowl modes but i could be wrong. it does not look like that in the gadget video when it shows him getting scanned. which is awesome i might add. but i guess we will find out what it really looks like in 12 days eh? WOOT

[Solidkill3r]

Elite you should watch both videos and see if its the same clip.

[EliteF50]

Looks like the new one was from an older build, maybe?

[sd921]

it could be a possibility, like before the polishing of the game

[EliteF50]

Elite you should watch both videos and see if its the same clip.

It is, I double checked. Batman glides in, gets scanned, door opens, he goes into the Batcave.

I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

[HenryundertheC]

real it looks like detective mode but then i notice the color in the bat cave so idk maybe they toned down some textures to make way for something else.

[Solidkill3r]

i am gonna do some research! elite which video is the one above?

[sd921]

i am gonna do some research! elite which video is the one above?

its the gadget trailer

[SilentGuardian]

hm maybe when he gets scanned a light comes on above him to indicate approved access. this may make the lighting different and the door might become like become more metallic looking or shed its camoflauge or something. also if you watch in the gadgets video when he is walking towards the door it looks like the IGN video : /

[EliteF50]

i am gonna do some research! elite which video is the one above?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4vbGfmBVjk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eeidosgames%2Ecom%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D88853&feature=player_embedded

[EliteF50]

The hue could be easily explained: Batman came into the Batcave at two separate times during the night. The textures are the issue...

[Solidkill3r]

I think im gonna say that the textures haven't redrawn yet in this clip. I dunno if the player could have died and the textures werent ready, because it happens in the demo.

[sd921]

its a possibility, but slightly off topic in the gadget trailer you see a cut on batmans cheek at 24 seconds in i thought i would just point that out because i thought it was cool

[Solidkill3r]

its a possibility, but slightly off topic in the gadget trailer you see a cut on batmans cheek at 24 seconds in i thought i would just point that out because i thought it was cool

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s158/jedimaxi/Batman_CUT.jpg

[sd921]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s158/jedimaxi/Batman_CUT.jpg

awesome thanks:thumb:

[lt_skittles]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s158/jedimaxi/Batman_CUT.jpg

In that picture you can see the stubble too.

[sd921]

In that picture you can see the stubble too.

ya your right the cosmetics in the game are quite amazing

[DarkCrusader67]

epicness ^^

[stoobytoons]

It just looks like second still is missing the bump, displacement, or normal mapping for some reason. For those of you who don't know, this is just graphical information that a rendering application would interpret as depth in space.
However, there is some definite loss in the diffuse mapping too. I'm not exactly sure why they would step it back unless there was a frame rate drop for some reason.

[ItsHenry99]

hmmm it is odd

[roddollente]

first pic: pre-rendered cutscene?

second pic: in-game? lol.

[Kai Rei]

Is it that hard to figure out?


The above pic is obviously from the PC, and the below pic is from a console.

[stoobytoons]

Is it that hard to figure out?


The above pic is obviously from the PC, and the below pic is from a console.

That was my initial reaction. We'll see.

[daklog]

it looks like some textures hadn't rendered completely yet... having experienced first hand the textures both systems are doing in AA, i don't think one shot is ps3 and one is 360... hmmm

[ChristianBaleBatman]

I'm leaning towards the trailer being old.

Maybe they've sat on that trailer since before the delay?

And I don't think it's a PC to console thing. B/c no matter what, that bottom pic looks almost blurry bad.

[daklog]

ding ding ding.. i believe CBB has cracked the code here...

these trailers were probably all completed quite some time ago, still in a beta copy

[CaptainMcMulla]

Very strange. The gadgets trailer looks like i dont know.

[Sumsar]

hmmm that's som really bad textures in the gadgets trailer....hope its from an old build :confused:

[Clown Prince Of Crime]

The texture's havn't re-drawn yet, as Solidkill3er and F50 have already said.

It's nothing to worry about.

[artyfin]

It definitely seems like an older build because there's no way they'd release it to that standard. The lack of textures in that new shot are horrifying. The PS2 can do better.

[Grommers]

I'm guessing PC / console as well. I really wouldn't worry all to much about it.

[CrashxUae]

Maby Becuase it's a Trailer ?!?

[Zhim]

Can a mod comment on this?

[Turn and Face the Strange]

Looks like he's in Detective Mode, that's all.

Do you really think they would put a clip with horrible bland textures into, and I quote, "the most epic trailer yet"?

[Ahasverus]

Keiiirrr???!

[Solidkill3r]

I know this has nothing to do with the Batcave, but did anyone else notice that the cape looks even better in the new trailers?

[Ahasverus]

Yes, But I don't like that it's very very damaged; at the end of the game, Bats could be naked :P

[warvibe24]

It could be the textures haven't redrawn yet. but i cant be certain.

Hope your right.

[daklog]

i dunno if it's a texture problem because from my experiences with texture pop-ins from the demo, it is only on certain surfaces... meaning even if the texture on the rock wall that was about to let bats in hadn't redrawn yet, everything else should have still looked decent... but there are like NO good textures in that shot except for on bats...

to those of you saying it's detective mode, it isn't
detective mode places a small white outline around bats when he's against a blue color surface

[Zhim]

He's definatly not in Detective mode, no halo around bats.

[Vaad]

Its just where the texture's haven't loaded propperly. Happens from time to time. The unreal 3 engine is known for this. Happens in Gears alot when a scene changes

[batman4747]

The textures haven't redrawn yet this also happens in Gears Of War 1 & 2.

[Inzane]

Its just the graphic settings. One looks like one is high settings, one looks like low setting . those with the pc version know this.. Nothing to worry about.

[ChristianBaleBatman]

I just noticed, that in the same trailer...before that shot, the ground and bottom half of the boulders are in great detail and looks better.

It's before the part where Batman gets scanned, and before the "Against All Odds" text. The ground and the rocks looks better than a few second after that, which is the picture that's captured at the beginning of this thread. Anyone else notice that? I'm not sure why this is, though.