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VIKTORIA
05-11-2009, 05:48 AM
Should the new game be titled just "Thief IV", or should iit include a subtitle too?
Just for fun, share your T4 game subtitle suggestions... :D

StalinsGhost
05-11-2009, 05:51 AM
No specific suggestions, but not something generic like "Deadly Shadows". I really, really liked "The Dark Project" and "The Metal Age" because they set out the theme before you even loaded up the game. One was about the attempted bringing about of a Dark Age of the Trickster, another was one literally of "The Metal Age". "Deadly Shadows" didn't really say anything else.

Also, please get whoever slipped and put the 4 where the "E" is meant to be back! :D

Velecost
05-11-2009, 05:57 AM
Well to help it sell better you may want to leave the 4 out. It may turn some people off knowing they missed 3 games in the series. Before picking a subtitle would have to know something about the story though.

TheJoker
05-11-2009, 06:05 AM
Thief IV

Imho

dark_angel_7
05-11-2009, 06:05 AM
I think "Thief IV" would be good enough ;)

Morphine
05-11-2009, 06:36 AM
Technically, Deadly Shadows wasn't Thief 3.

So the title should technically be Thief 3.

Technically.

Gorephazer
05-11-2009, 07:01 AM
"Thief 4 -- Shadows of the Metal Age" Kind of a combination of the last two titles; it could feature the deterioration of the Mechanist's physical influence on the City. I dunno just a random idea...

VIKTORIA
05-11-2009, 07:13 AM
"Thief 4 -- Shadows of the Metal Age" Kind of a combination of the last two titles; it could feature the deterioration of the Mechanist's physical influence on the City. I dunno just a random idea...

We can't leave out the first game... :p
So, "Dark Shadows of the Metal Age", then? :D

I jest. If there is to be an additional subtitle it needs to be completely different to the others, imo.

UrUkUs
05-11-2009, 07:17 AM
Thief IV - Burricks Revenge

StalinsGhost
05-11-2009, 07:18 AM
Thinking on it further, it really doesn't bother me so long as ThiAf goes. "Thief: Garrett Goes for Spagetti Dinner" would do me fine so long as it's "Thief".

Necros
05-11-2009, 07:26 AM
Yes, I'd like a subtitle but only a short one. I have no tips yet because there's no info about the story, so I'll wait for some details. :)

Gorephazer
05-11-2009, 07:27 AM
Hmm you are probably right. Okay then just something with three words, the first being "The." I like that pattern. The third word could be "Codex" just because it sounds cool and because it ties in well with the Keepers :)

R Soul
05-11-2009, 07:42 AM
Thief IV: The Unwritten Times

or

Thief IV: Better Than Tomb Raider

geekytom
05-11-2009, 07:49 AM
Sorry, I'm not a fan of numbering sequals. You make them sound like cheesy American block busters.

Thief is such a strong brand that simply "Thief" would have done the trick.

So....

Thief: (and then the name of the story)

That'll do.

VIKTORIA
05-11-2009, 08:35 AM
Thief IV - Burricks Revenge

Haha! :D

Goliath The Thief
05-11-2009, 09:30 AM
Thief IV : Burglar Tycoon

HellKittyDan
05-11-2009, 09:42 AM
Thief 4: Thi4f For4v4r

Anyway, being that we don't know anything about the game it's kinda hard to think of a realistic title, but the version of Thief 4 that exists solely in my head is called:

Thief: Renaissance

Kinda clashes with the Renaissance styling they've got going on in DX3 though.

Vladimyre
05-11-2009, 09:48 AM
Thief IV: It puts the I V in for thief addicts ;)

Thief IV: PewPew with my mansley bow.

Actually, I think Thief IV is just fine :)

UrUkUs
05-11-2009, 09:52 AM
Ершуа 4

NewHorizon
05-11-2009, 09:53 AM
I think they should figure out a story and see what kind of name comes organically from that. It would also be nice if they went with something that echoed the first titles Thief: The Dark Project and Thief: The Metal Age

Since we're being silly....Thief IV: Finders Keepers

Danie1
05-11-2009, 09:58 AM
No specific suggestions, but not something generic like "Deadly Shadows". I really, really liked "The Dark Project" and "The Metal Age" because they set out the theme before you even loaded up the game. One was about the attempted bringing about of a Dark Age of the Trickster, another was one literally of "The Metal Age". "Deadly Shadows" didn't really say anything else.

Also, please get whoever slipped and put the 4 where the "E" is meant to be back! :D

Probably the best response here. The subtitles had references to the story in the first two games. "Deadly Shadows" felt like a nod toward kids who want shoot 'em ups.

We'll have to hold off on a phrase until we know a little about the storyline.

And Thief doesn't feel like Thief if the title doesn't look correct. Go back and use the old "e".

cobakka
05-11-2009, 11:23 AM
Thief IV: The Unwritten Times

The Unwritten Times or something based upon that probably makes the most sense if it takes place after Thief 3 (i hope so) and not a bad title either!

and i couldnt care less if it is Thief or Thief IV... just have a good subtitle!

UrUkUs
05-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Thief IV: Better Than Tomb Raider
^ ftw!!

Platinumoxicity
05-11-2009, 11:27 AM
"Thief 4 -- Shadows of the Metal Age" Kind of a combination of the last two titles; it could feature the deterioration of the Mechanist's physical influence on the City. I dunno just a random idea...

I think I've heard that somewhere... Hmm... Oh, I know! T2X - Shadows of the Metal Age. :lol: I don't know whether your idea was just purely for the lulz, but I think it wouldn't be too respectful for the hard working developers of the single largest free fan project in the series.

nicked
05-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Well to help it sell better you may want to leave the 4 out. It may turn some people off knowing they missed 3 games in the series. Before picking a subtitle would have to know something about the story though.

This is exactly why the 4 (or IV) NEEDS to be in the title. So people DO go back and play the first three and find out what they were missing. Otherwise, you're pandering to retards.

Thievingtaffer
05-11-2009, 11:33 AM
How can you possibly expect us to write titles when we have no idea what it's about?

Thief IV: The Phantom Keeper
Thief IV: The Attack of the Pagans
Thief IV: The Revenge of the Hammers
Thief IV: A New Keeper
Thief IV: The Pagans Strike Back.
Thief IV: Return of the Hammers

Gorephazer
05-11-2009, 11:50 AM
I think I've heard that somewhere... Hmm... Oh, I know! T2X - Shadows of the Metal Age. :lol: I don't know whether your idea was just purely for the lulz, but I think it wouldn't be too respectful for the hard working developers of the single largest free fan project in the series.

Wow haha! Totally did not know that at all... I mean I've heard of T2X before but I've never played it. I guess great minds think alike ;)

Herr_Garrett
05-11-2009, 11:53 AM
The 'Unwritten Times' sounds pretty good, only I guess some people would conclude that you have to steal a special edition of 'The Times', filled with Glyphs but never actually issued or something :D

Thief IV - The Secret of the Taffer

Blue Sky
05-11-2009, 12:02 PM
How about...

Thief: Deadlier Shadows

Thi4f: The 4 Is Actually An E

Thief: Garrett Goes Forth

CaliTHIEFFOURnication

He Will THIEF Your FOURtune

...one of those has to be the winner.

Gorephazer
05-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Thief: Return of the Thief

GmanPro
05-11-2009, 12:25 PM
It will be something dumb like "T4: Revenge of the Rogues!!11!!1"

DarthEnder
05-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Thief IV: <something related to the game's plot>


would be just fine.

Blue Sky
05-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Got some more...

Thief 4: More Thieving

Thief 4: Thieve Harder

Thief 4: It's FOURsome

Thief 4 and the Goblet of Fire

Danie1
05-11-2009, 02:10 PM
Thief 4 and the Goblet of Fire[/b]

LOL Good one!

abr4
05-11-2009, 06:13 PM
Thief IV: The Dark Menace
Thief IV: Attack of the Servants
Thief IV: Revenge of the Hammerites
Thief IV: A New Thief
Thief IV: The City Watch Strikes Back
Thief IV: Return of the Keepers

:P

Pipinowns
05-11-2009, 06:17 PM
Thief IV: Don't Fear The Keeper

Velecost
05-12-2009, 03:39 AM
This is exactly why the 4 (or IV) NEEDS to be in the title. So people DO go back and play the first three and find out what they were missing. Otherwise, you're pandering to retards.

Your relying too much on people to do this which the majority will not. Some will that really want to know more about the world and characters. I just want the game to sell well so the franchise keeps going! But hey I could be wrong as long as thief 4 rocks it won't matter!

mister_riz
05-12-2009, 03:51 AM
Well this kinda depends on the story doesn't it :P But:

Thief 4: Rise of the Black Guild

And a theme involving Garrett discovering an underworld guild that has infiltrated all the powerful groups within the city would be my personal choice for the next story. It would be possible to incorporate an intricate plot which ends with the city in balance again ready for a potential number 5...

edit: I googled RotBG and it doesn't seem to be taken by another game/film/book ;)

Dominus
05-12-2009, 03:55 AM
Thi4f: t3h l33t prjkt

Thief Raider: Sexy Shadows

but really, the subtitle, if any (I prefer none), would be best made by the ones who are writing the story.

Thievingtaffer
05-12-2009, 07:37 AM
Thief IV: The Dark Menace
Thief IV: Attack of the Servants
Thief IV: Revenge of the Hammerites
Thief IV: A New Thief
Thief IV: The City Watch Strikes Back
Thief IV: Return of the Keepers

:P
Did you happen to see my suggestions, also on this page? :D

kin
05-12-2009, 08:01 AM
Thief4: The dark glyph (some story about a mysterious glyph)
Thief4: Resurection of the [.....] (you can put anything you like in here Victoria, Trickster...)
Thief4: The elements (some story about the elements and talismans?)
Thief4: Ruins of the metal age
Thief4: (this should be a nice surprise anyway)

The previous titles didn't say anything about the story in the subtitle so it could just be something that just sounds or looks good.


Really you can't just give a title without knowing what is the story so you must make a quick story in your mind.

Mshade
05-12-2009, 08:11 AM
I would be fine with just Thief IV. However, it would sound weird with just a number at the end. Why don`t they just name it `Thief`` plain and simple since that hasn`t been used yet. Or have a subtitle that has something to do with the story.

Demtor
05-12-2009, 08:35 AM
Bring some respect back to the series.

Thief IV: (something story related)

Platinumoxicity
05-12-2009, 08:56 AM
Thief 4 - Jeepers Keepers
or Super Thief 4 3D!:nut:

agrash
05-12-2009, 09:10 AM
Thief 4: the unwritten chronicles
Thief 4: the Keeper of Darkness (got this from tomb raider: The Angel Of Darkness ^^)
Thief 4: the uncertain times
Thief 4: unforgiven

this is hard :/
And it should be something plotrelated like in the first 2 games imo :/

Elukka
05-12-2009, 10:00 AM
Not anything generic, since it'd be pointless. I'd like a subtitle, and I'd like it to have to do with the plot, while also being a good hook. "The Metal Age", for example, just sounds interesting, while also having to do with the plot.
I don't have any exact suggestions, since I don't know anything of the storyline.

Watcheratthegatesofdusk
05-12-2009, 10:50 AM
Thief 4
Shadows of the Keeper

abr4
05-12-2009, 10:59 AM
Did you happen to see my suggestions, also on this page? :D

lol, nope XD

Hey atleast there's only one similar :D

Blue Sky
05-12-2009, 03:10 PM
And some more...

Deadly Shadows 2: The Dark Age

Theif: The Illiterate Project

Thief: Y'know, the Medieval Version of Splinter Cell

Thi4f: You Think This Name Is Bad, You Wait For Thi5f

Thief 3: The Rewriting History Project

GmanPro
05-12-2009, 04:22 PM
Thi4f: You Think This Name Is Bad, You Wait For Thi5f

I lol'd at that one

jhook
05-13-2009, 12:16 AM
Bring some respect back to the series.

Thief IV: (something story related)

This is what it should be!

You must respect the storyline thus far. T1 T2, and T3 are now canon. It was referred to in T3 many times by the Keepers as "The Coming of the Dark Age", and that should be quite simple enough to label.

Thief 4, "The Dark Age"

Anything else will be against canon of the series. T3 led up to it all the way. T4 should pick up where everything left off. Also, T4 should hint at the coming of another age, or era for title respects to a possible T5. On.e thing I have noticed is that most of the Thief series had developments leading into the next series. T4 should be no different.

GmanPro
05-13-2009, 12:19 AM
^^ I actually really like that title (assuming T4 takes place after T3). Its like mixing The Dark Project with the Metal Age. What could possibly go wrong amirite? :D

agrash
05-13-2009, 01:12 PM
Thief IV: the beginning of a new trilogy

Blue Sky
05-13-2009, 01:22 PM
Thief 4: Garrett's Now A Girl!

Thief 4: Not 4 Thieves...Buy A Copy

Thief 4: A New One Of Those Games Wot You Like

Thief 4: It's Like Saying 'See Saw' With A Lisp

Oh no, I just thought a better name for Deadly Shadows!

Thief 3: Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Get Back In The Water

Tohtori
05-13-2009, 03:52 PM
"Deadly dark age" would be better for combined name or perhaps in proper order "Dark age shadows". Or maybe make it more action concentrated and name it "4 Thies 4 furious".

Anyway "Thief IV" is my suggestion. And I also support the "Thief IV: The unwritten times". It fits in the story.

Terr
05-13-2009, 04:57 PM
I thought of the "Dark Age" referring to the breaking of the Keeper's power. In essence, it (and the earth-shaking changes) already happened by the end of T3. What was prophesied to happen during (rather than causing) this dark age, I wonder?

GmanPro
05-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Thief IV: Deadly Shadows of Death and Darkness ... and Death

Durinda D'Bry
05-14-2009, 04:41 AM
If they would success in main franchise principles: "Thief: Shadow of Dark Project, Metal Age and Deadly Shadows", if not "Thief: Robbing LA 2067":)

Seriously I prefer "Thief: Metal Age" title - it is very corresponding to plot, "Dark Project" was also good but "Deadly Shadow" was too generic, seems title appeared before story finished to design. I mean - do not call Thief 4 "Metal Age" again, just follow the story:)

Leshrac
05-14-2009, 04:52 AM
- Thi4F is really lame to be honest.
- T4 would make it look like yet another terminator clone.
- Thief IV... hmm... well... Star Trek IV too...

Gaelic title ! Original and i don't think it's been done before :)

Thief : Ceithir (number 4 in scottish gaelic). Not only does it look unusual it will actually have people scratch their heads :D

I think it's better to have an usual title than use cliché crap like

Thief: The revenge, Thief: The [bs] Age, Thief: Reborn, Thief: Untold story, Thief: Darkness times, etc...

:):)

tender19
05-14-2009, 11:40 AM
Thief: A tale of two cities. Dic.kens would love that.

Thieffanman
05-14-2009, 01:23 PM
"Thief IV: A New Hope", quickly followed by "Thief V: The Empire Strikes Back" . . .

or has that been done before? :D

On a more serious note: "Thief IV: The Unwritten Times" and "Thief IV: The Dark Age" are winners. This game's storyline should follow Deadly Shadows because it was so *good*, and the possible storyline expansion with the final scenes where the kid almost pick's Garret's pocket should be explored.

--Thieffanman

Blue Sky
05-14-2009, 04:20 PM
Thief 4: His Name Rhymes With Parrot

Thief 4: The Musical

Thief 4: The Isometric Real-Time Strategy Game

Thief 4: Better Than A Poke In The Eye With A Sharpened HB Pencil

Hypevosa
05-14-2009, 05:11 PM
I don't know the plot, but assuming there's any major betrayal...

Thief 4: Honor Amongst Thieves

GmanPro
05-14-2009, 05:25 PM
Thief 4: We Promise Your Health Doesn't Regenerate! We Learned Our Lesson!

Flashart
05-15-2009, 05:50 AM
Thief IV: Black Night
Thief IV: The Longest Night
Thief IV: Eclipse
Thief IV: Darkness Falls
Thief IV: The Light In The Black
Thief IV: Night Watch
Thief IV: New Dawn
Thief IV: False Keeper

Platinumoxicity
05-15-2009, 06:41 AM
Garrett in an underground city of the alien demon killer zombies from outer space!
Not really, just something I imagined a few years ago.
http://filesmelt.com/Imagehosting/pics/302c4176d70015a682d670b5ad3b2792.PNG
Made with Paint :)

Blue Sky
05-15-2009, 08:07 AM
Oooh! "Depths of Darkness" is very good!

Doesn't really mean anything, but as a generic non-story-specific subtitle it's wonderful, and a lot better than the jarring "Deadly Shadows".

Your MS Paint rendition is brilliant, too, but why does the "4" look like an "E"? I don't understand! :confused:

Corvin25
05-18-2009, 07:28 AM
We have no idea what the story is about, so how can we possibly think of a proper subtitle? :(

Why not just make the game "Thief IV" with the roman numeral system? Gamers aren't so uneducated that they won't know what "IV" means.

Well, here are some non story-specific subtitles. ;)

Thief IV: Riddles in the Dark (That pretty much sums up Garrett's life.)
Thief IV: Broken Silence (my favorite)
Thief IV: Tooth and Hammer (like Tooth (pagans) and Nail, except.... there's Hammers...... >_>)
Thief IV: The Unseen
Thief IV: The Invisible Hand
Thief IV: Cloak and Dagger
Thief IV: The Builder's Paradise
Thief IV: Secret Of The Eye (I'd like to know that myself.)

Alex50
05-18-2009, 09:22 AM
this depends on of a plot line.
The Thief 1: dark project - a coming the epoch of the darkness and Chaos.
The Thief 2: metal age - a coming the epoch of the order and world Karrasa.
The Thief 3: deadly shadows - a keepers raddled in their own secret absorbed corruption in their own rows.
Hope "Thief: Garrettina" I shall not see :D possible
Thief: "dark gambit" , "Between light and dark", "illuminating Shade", "BadBalance", "stealthy in shade" and much others

Platinumoxicity
05-18-2009, 10:00 AM
Legend of Thief: Twilight Business :D

Herr_Garrett
05-18-2009, 09:31 PM
Thief - The Video Game
Thief II - The Wrath of Gamall
Thief III - The Search for Artemus
Thief IV - The Voy4ge to South Qu4rter
Thief V - The Final Glyph
Thief VI - The Undiscovered Loot

City Trek...

WVI
05-18-2009, 09:36 PM
Eidos will break convention by retitling it as

The Fourth Thief Game





And everyone cheered.

tender19
05-21-2009, 02:03 AM
I think, that would be awesome, if "Thief" would be the last word of the title.

Like Once a Thief :D

Blue Sky
05-21-2009, 02:34 AM
Thief 4: Look Who's Thieving Now!

Thief 4: Now With 4th Person Perspective

Thi4f: Pretend It's Spelled Correctly And Get Over It

Thief 4: Once, Twice, Three, Four Times The Lady Thief

BlooferLady
05-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Thief 3: Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Get Back In The Water

:lol:

Master Taffer
05-25-2009, 05:55 PM
I can't even begin to suggest a title until I have an inkling of what the story is about. Deadly Shadows was a pretty bad name, and I've always thought "The Dark Age" would have worked very well. But I can just chalk it up to the list of things Ion Storm did wrong with DS.

I still like the game, but I readily admit it's flawed.

Herr_Garrett
05-25-2009, 09:28 PM
What with the connexions between Thief & Dark Camelot and whatnot... How about The Once and Future Thief?:D

theBlackman
07-05-2009, 03:21 PM
I think it should be something like this, if they want to use the 4.

jtr7
07-05-2009, 03:25 PM
Interesting. And it's a new approach! It could be made of stained glass and the missing piece could be a section where Garrett broke it. :D

theBlackman
07-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Thanks JT, I really have a huge dislike for that THI4F image. It isn't even a fake out LEET or TEXTING usage.

jtr7
07-05-2009, 05:29 PM
Well, I'm glad we are being told it's not going to be...

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/TheTHI4F.jpg

A parody of John Carpenter's The Thing.




Here's the hack job, using the original original logo:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/thieftitle.jpg



Of course, it implies, too, that the logo is broken.

theBlackman
07-05-2009, 05:34 PM
I like it. I have not the skills with graphic applications to do things as nicely.

How about using the Brush stroke logo and just take the leg off the bottom of the H. Leave the rest exactly as it is,heading this page (no 4, of course) and just drop the leg.

I really like the typeface and, from my perspective it would work... With the color of course.

jtr7
07-05-2009, 05:51 PM
Like this?

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/T4iefLogo.jpg

theBlackman
07-05-2009, 06:00 PM
Yes. That's perfect. :thumb::thumb:

Fatherwoodsie
07-05-2009, 06:02 PM
looks cool but why the unfinished H?

theBlackman
07-05-2009, 06:07 PM
THIEF 4.. The H is the 4. You like the THI4F better? If you read, as you should, always, the four or five posts above where you pop in, the conversations are easier to follow and understand, and mostly would answer the question you did not need to ask.

And even as L337 the 4 makes no damn sense at all as a replacement for the E. The broken H works a lot better.

jtr7
07-05-2009, 06:11 PM
Glad to help, Dusty!


Yeah, if we must have the "4" in the logo, let's have it where it makes more sense to us non-1337 speakers. AOL-speak really degraded the literacy levels of our youth. Adults today are still using that crap.

TheEye
07-06-2009, 02:17 AM
every other game had a subtitle so i think thief 4 should have one too. don't worry anyway they are bound going to change it. i just hope its good like the previous games and dosen't give away the ending.

also lets hope that eidos DON'T mess too much with the title and turn it from Thief into Taffer-man or something.

jtr7
07-06-2009, 02:49 AM
Thief 4: The One True Keeper of THE GIRL
Thief 4: My Brothers' Keeper
Thief 4: Garrett and the Taffer Boys
Thief 4: Dark Age of Unemployed Librarian Scholar Mystics


Garrett as the Peter Pan to the street urchins' Lost Boys (Children).

Hamadriyad
07-06-2009, 04:51 AM
Like this?

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/T4iefLogo.jpg

Much much better.

DarknessFalls
07-06-2009, 07:44 AM
Thief IV: Black Night
Thief IV: The Longest Night
Thief IV: Eclipse
Thief IV: Darkness Falls
Thief IV: The Light In The Black
Thief IV: Night Watch
Thief IV: New Dawn
Thief IV: False Keeper
Not sure why, but this one seems perfect to me... :lol:

Actually, I was going to recommend Thief IV: The Dark Age and then saw it in a while back in this thread, so my vote would go to that! Even without any info on the story EM might use, there is just so much you could do with a title like that. In fact, EM could focus on building quality levels first and THEN worry about fleshing out a story using this title :)

The Thief 4 logo directly above (with the 'h' as a '4') is nice -- maybe even better than Th4f --but I'd prefer the roman numeral be used after the word "Thief" (e.g., Thief IV) to be consistent with the T1/T2 logos.

Hamadriyad
07-06-2009, 08:11 AM
Thief IV:Unwritten Times.

tarhiel
07-06-2009, 08:14 AM
Thief: (something related to story) - that should be it, as it was stated several times before.

I came up only with: "Thief IV: The beginning of the end" or "Thief IV: New Era (NOT new age!!!)"

esme
07-06-2009, 08:52 AM
Thi4f : teh l33t 4g3 graettt 4 the w!!!!111111one

:mad2:

DarknessFalls
07-06-2009, 08:55 AM
I recommend T4I4F

esme
07-06-2009, 08:57 AM
Thi4f : Garrett gets a car with a personalised numberplate

Fatherwoodsie
07-06-2009, 10:24 AM
thief IV: revenge of the eye

jtr7
07-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Thief 4: Eye'm Baaaack!

DarknessFalls
07-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Thief IV: Feiht (pronounced 'Fate')

Hypevosa
07-06-2009, 06:13 PM
Like this?

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/T4iefLogo.jpg

Ironically enough, that's exactly what I was thinking of around half an hour ago "Why didn't they just use the H?

I don't like how it just seems cut off... personally I'd want to put something there... I was thinking a barely visible outline of a hood, and then maybe a slight blue glow of the mechanical eye. Make something break the H. I'll try and make my own image, if someone wouldn't mind trying out themselves (you can probably do better)...

Hypevosa
07-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Alrighty then, I'm done.

Here's the logo the way it should be, no 4 for an e.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/Hypevosa/Newthieflogo.jpg

Here's the logo the way I think it should be, where the h is the 4 instead, and someone's makin it that way....

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/Hypevosa/Thief4logowithgarrettcopy.jpg

Whatd'ya think? is it an improvement?

I used this image (http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/71789_thief2.jpg) to make the Garrett in the second logo

jtr7
07-06-2009, 07:28 PM
Not bad. Not bad.

DarknessFalls
07-06-2009, 07:59 PM
Not bad. I still think it'd be better to just go with Thief IV. Some non-tafficionados might see it and just think it's the original Thief (maybe they'd think the 'h' is smudged/scratched out, or their mind still reads it as an 'h')... Thus, loss of potential sales.

Arkanis
07-06-2009, 08:12 PM
I strongly feel it NEEDS to be Thief IV: *Whatever name*, or atleast just "Thief IV". Thi4f looks so stupid, and honestly just discourages me, and I'm sure many others, thinking it's going to be a god-awful game designed for the kiddie audience. Kind of like the Twin Autobots in Transformers 2.

Clearly we can't think of a secondary part of the title because we don't know the plot, but people should be aware that yes, this is the fourth installment. Why would they try to hide it in Thief 3? Especially with such a dumb title. We don't need garbage assassin themes to throw off the Thief legacy.

theBlackman
07-06-2009, 08:17 PM
I agree with Ark... Thief IV at least. That THI4F is the dumbest I have seen in years.

If the 4 must be in the title in one form or another it should not ever, ever be that stupid looking THI4F.

As clumsy as the truncated H is it is not half as annoying as that 4 replacing the E.

jtr7
07-06-2009, 08:41 PM
Not to mention yet another replacement of the original perfectly good "E", indicating yet another departure in another dubious direction.


One intro or cutscene-like scenario I keep thinking on is someone running up to the wooden door of a residence and carving "THIEF" into the door of the accused with a cheap blade as the first step of retribution. It's not Garrett's door, but like the "Scarlet Letter", someone's been called out for their crimes.

Hypevosa
07-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Not to mention yet another replacement of the original perfectly good "E", indicating yet another departure in another dubious direction.


One intro or cutscene-like scenario I keep thinking on is someone running up to the wooden door of a residence and carving "THIEF" into the door of the accused with a cheap blade as the first step of retribution. It's not Garrett's door, but like the "Scarlet Letter", someone's been called out for their crimes.

I like that idea alot. Imagining that scene makes me feel rather satisfied.at it.

Platinumoxicity
07-07-2009, 02:48 AM
This would be cool for the end of an intro video. The camera moves to a spot in the rainy City where the light from the windows reflects from the wet street forming the title T4IEF. Badly represented here.
http://filesmelt.com/Imagehosting/pics/8983188f05c2ee1f61d264d0192acaf5.PNG

Hamadriyad
07-07-2009, 03:01 AM
This would be cool for the end of an intro video. The camera moves to a spot in the rainy City where the light from the windows reflects from the wet street forming the title T4IEF. Badly represented here.
http://filesmelt.com/Imagehosting/pics/8983188f05c2ee1f61d264d0192acaf5.PNG

Good idea.

Pieter888
07-07-2009, 03:46 AM
Thief IV
-The Plague-

PS: kinda like THI4F to...

DarknessFalls
07-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Just playin some more...

Thief IV: Gamma Man

[PT] Garret [PT]
07-10-2009, 10:05 AM
thief IV : Shadows of Revenge

Platinumoxicity
07-10-2009, 10:20 AM
Thief 4: (additional title)

The opening flavor text:

"in thief iv the girl on the last cutscene in thief 3 dies in thief 4 at the beggining of the game she ran on a building the building was so old that a part of it broke that part was when she steped on it she falled and she died but at that old building there were many many ghosts traped that they make a mess in the building thats how the girl dies but there are many ways that she could have been died."

-clock12345, Eidos Thi4f forums. :D

Fatherwoodsie
07-10-2009, 10:32 AM
Thief 4: curse of the glyph

Direlord
07-10-2009, 02:20 PM
We can't leave out the first game... :p
So, "Dark Shadows of the Metal Age", then? :D

I jest. If there is to be an additional subtitle it needs to be completely different to the others, imo.

Shadows of the Metal Dark Age

Thief 4 Taffers Treasure
Thief 4 Silent and Deadly
Thief 4 What happens in the shadows stays in darkness.
Thief 4 Burrick with a match
Thief 4 Mechanists Revenge
Thief 4 Pagans and Hammerites unite!
Thi4f The title that shall live in infamy.
Thief 4 Stephen Russell hath returned
Thief 4 To correct the mistakes of 3
Thief 4 Glyphs Revenge
Thief 4 The next Generation

jtr7
07-10-2009, 03:50 PM
"Thief III: The Dark Age" is what TDS logically should've been called, but "The Dark Age" would work great for the new game. "Thief 4: The Unwritten Times" is the next logical name in the series, if it is a sequel following TDS.

Herr_Garrett
07-11-2009, 10:30 PM
Thief VI should be: Garrett and the Deadly Shallows.

hexhunter
07-12-2009, 04:20 AM
Either Thief IV: The Dark Age or Thief IV: The Light Age...

FriendlyStranger
07-12-2009, 04:30 AM
Maybe "The Golden Age" ... sounds intriguing
Or "Garrett Rising" ^^
The Dark Project 2? Or Garrett: The Early Years, The Autum Years

Thief 4: Planet Of The Apebeasts
Thief 4: Burrick Perversity
Thief 4: For A Fistful Of Craymen


@Platinum I love the idea with the "Thief" reflexion in the water - that's how it should be done, or at least in a similar way.

Fatherwoodsie
07-12-2009, 12:22 PM
id have to go with the unwritten times

Nothke
07-12-2009, 01:11 PM
lol, this reminded me of star wars:

Thief : The Burrics Manace
Thief: Attack of the Pagans
Thief: Revenge of the Hammerites
Thief: An Old Hope
Thief: The Trickster Strikes Back
Thief: Return of the Keepers

and Harry Potter:

Thief and the Stone from Markham's Isle
Thief and the Chamber of Secrets... Many of Them
Thief and the Prisoner of Cragscleft
Thief and the Chalice of Fire Elemental
Thief and Order of the Keepers
Thief and the Half-Blood Baron
Thief and Deadly Shadows (already used)

and I don't want to suggest anything, because its up to you devs, just keep it connected with story as in TDS and TMA, and no generic names like DS, and PLEAAAASE no standard one-word sequel names like:

Thief: Awakenings
Thief: Ressurection
Thief: Atonement
Thief: Legends
Thief: Revolution
Thief: Rising
Thief: Fall
Thief: Reloaded (remember matrix, so generic)
Thief: Dawn of Fallen (hm, actually this is not bad one... can refer to Keepers, but generic again)

gryphos
07-12-2009, 07:35 PM
>>please get whoever slipped and put the 4 where the "E" is meant to be back

Maybe Garrett taffin stole it to show EM who's boss...

Seriously, if they include a subtitle, I think Unwritten Times is already strongly suggested as it has been so prominently mentioned. I'm not sure that it's the most interesting for marketing though.

Not as seriously, for those who want to make a tougher, deadlier Garrett and forego the stealthy part:
Thief IV: The Pillaging.

Platinumoxicity
07-12-2009, 11:39 PM
>>please get whoever slipped and put the 4 where the "E" is meant to be back


You do mean "put the "E" back to where the "4" is" -right? :D

[PT] Garret [PT]
07-13-2009, 02:34 AM
Should the new game be titled just "Thief IV", or should iit include a subtitle too?
Just for fun, share your T4 game subtitle suggestions... :D



in the end of TDS when the little girl tries to pickpocket Garret he says:

"You got talent...its no easy thing to ...see a KEEPER , expecially one who does not wich to be seen"


so, what about - Thief IV : Tales of a Keeper?

[PT] Garret [PT]
07-15-2009, 04:01 AM
Thief 4: Now With 4th Person Perspective






haha that was cool

[PT] Garret [PT]
07-15-2009, 04:06 AM
i vote for :


T4IEF: The Dark Age

darkmagicasorseer
09-12-2009, 10:32 AM
Thief 4: Unseen Hand

darkmagicasorseer
09-12-2009, 10:37 AM
Thief 4: Unseen Hand

It actually refers to the term 'invisible hand' where economist stated that the economy can regulate itself in balance and harmony and recover itself if there happens to be a recession. Which is proven till today not really true, there must be an intervention by the authorities to regulate them... Which is the same scenario in thief, the keepers are no longer in power to maintain balance, and they cannot rely on the invisible hand, the natural cause, to maintain balance of the factions...

Just an Idea...discuss with me...

evilblizz
09-12-2009, 11:24 AM
i didn't read all the other posts.

Thief : Garrett's path.

Having numbers to a game name is stupid:P

Aceyalone7777
09-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Thief 4: Taffin'
Thief 5: Burrick goes to school
Thief 6: 6 is a 9 upwards! Hurraaaayyyy!!!
Thief 7: ROFL
Thief 8:The lost fate of the red ruby of the enclaver pink dragon of the blue house up in the hill
Thief 9: Splinet Cell: Sam Fisher still's got it suxorzzz
Thief 10: l33t t4lk1n6 ann1vers4ry!
Thief 11: Garrett goes to Hollywood
Thief 12: Garret and the 7 dwarfs

Absinthe
09-12-2009, 04:06 PM
As great and even funny some of the suggestions are, why not keep it simple? No subtitle, no number.

"Thief"

Done...

jtr7
09-12-2009, 04:25 PM
If we are going to have the '4', then it should live up to the trilogy or blow it away, otherwise, drop the number.

Hecateus
09-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Thief: The Noon of Knight
Thief: Mid-Knight

hmmm...

darkmagicasorseer
09-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Thief: Crouching Taffer hidden Garrett...

esme
09-14-2009, 06:31 AM
Thief : The Dawn of the Dark Ages

Thief : illitterate illuminati

Thief : Cry Havoc and Unglyph the Gates of the Gods

none of the above are to be taken in any way as serious comment ;)

Davehall380
09-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Thief 4 - Guns, Rappers and Ho's

Admiral_Thrawn
09-14-2009, 07:57 PM
just from the suggestion from theBlackman... Just did a quick stab at it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/Admiral_Thrawn/thief.jpg

Cheers,
Admiral_Thrawn

jtr7
09-14-2009, 08:00 PM
:thumb:

Maybe that'll appease those who thought this Garrett was too dark (accurate as it is):
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/Hypevosa/Thief4logowithgarrettcopy.jpg

:D

Hecateus
09-14-2009, 08:08 PM
Thief: Fulcrum

(I always liked the titles to episodes of Blake 7)

jtr7
09-14-2009, 08:17 PM
Thief 4: The Pendulum Swings
Thief 4: Hanging in the Balance

Admiral_Thrawn
09-14-2009, 11:21 PM
:thumb:

Maybe that'll appease those who thought this Garrett was too dark (accurate as it is):
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/Hypevosa/Thief4logowithgarrettcopy.jpg

:D

Bugger, must have missed that one. :P and I did read though the other pages. lol.
looks better than mine anyway :D


Cheers,
A_T

jtr7
09-14-2009, 11:46 PM
Great minds think alike? :D

darkmagicasorseer
09-15-2009, 11:16 AM
Great minds think alike? :D

not really...

Hypevosa
09-15-2009, 12:08 PM
It actually refers to the term 'invisible hand' where economist stated that the economy can regulate itself in balance and harmony and recover itself if there happens to be a recession. Which is proven till today not really true, there must be an intervention by the authorities to regulate them... Which is the same scenario in thief, the keepers are no longer in power to maintain balance, and they cannot rely on the invisible hand, the natural cause, to maintain balance of the factions...

Just an Idea...discuss with me...

That theory was headed by Smith...

I went over this last week in my economics class o.O

Anyone else find it really wierd how when you learn something new it ALWAYS manages to pop up at least once within a week of when you learned it? Or at least it always seems to happen to me.

And it's nice to see people reposting my work! :D

Thanks jtr and A_T

^_^

Hypevosa
09-15-2009, 12:11 PM
Great minds think alike? :D

Ah my friend, but fools seldom differ.

The question is, which are we?

jtr7
09-15-2009, 03:39 PM
I think the pendulum swings back and forth, though I'd hope it sticks to the least foolish side more than the other. :p

mvs
09-16-2009, 04:58 AM
Thief: A tale of two cities. Dic.kens would love that.

GENIUS. best so far. of course only applicable if there are two cities ... ;)

Davehall380
09-16-2009, 05:24 AM
How about . . . . Thief: NOT deadly shadows?

imnotwelsh
09-17-2009, 04:22 AM
T4444

esme
09-17-2009, 05:46 AM
T4444garrett with polymetal alloy exoskeleton over living tissue he can morph his hand into simple shapes like keys for doors or a club for blackjacking, he can alter his colouration and shape at will for stealth .... sounds familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it :D

windwalker
09-17-2009, 07:15 AM
Thief: Unwritten Times is very appealing.
I would also go for something like "blind balance" or "silent shift"
If the storyline would go as something entirely different: "golden call" or like?

matdmcc2
09-17-2009, 08:45 AM
Thief 4: Better not be on consoles

Hecateus
09-17-2009, 08:12 PM
Thief: Palimpsest

> Definition < (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/palimpsest)

darkmagicasorseer
09-19-2009, 12:19 AM
Thief Bright Project

huzi73
09-23-2009, 05:25 AM
ALL TAKEN FROM TTLG...

thief: friendly shadows

thief: War of the Clans

thief: The hammer and the paw

thief: Stout's Revenge

thief: Unknown Secrets

thief: unseen darkness

thief: Black dangers

thief: Missing Loot

thief: Tiffers and Taffers

thief: Stupid Guards

thief: The lost cloak

thief: Return of the Rope arrows

thief: Swim lesson

thief: Where's my eye?

thief: stolen stuff

thief: Orlandzilla

thief: nothing

thief: the stolen purse

thief: the stone age

thief: big bad blackjack backstab

thief: the key

thief: where is my sword?

thief: keeping keepers

thief: Is that a Rope ?

thief: The Useless age

thief: Get yourself a Cloak

thief: A sword for a Dagger

thief: Taffers and Thieves

thief: There goes the Clocktower

thief: Choking Moss

thief: go to jail

thief: reloaded

thief: revolutions

thief: the fellowship of the rope

thief: the two taffers

thief: the return of the cloak

thief: Lootless

thief: A new house for Big G.

thief: the thiefless age

thief: A new rope

thief: Benny Strikes Back

thief: Benny Strikes Twice

thief: Search for the final taffer

thief: The big search for Orland's Body

thief: Gold and Giant orlands

thief: Thiefproof

thief: My dagger for a horse

thief: Is that a sword?? TRASH IT !!!

thief: Them woodsie folk

thief: Get rid of your eye

thief: the lost guard

thief: NO TITLE

thief: Bes you there lakspur

thief: a lesson of paganish

thief: hammer those heads

thief: stand and deliver

thief: 50 Loot (12%)

thief: A smack in the face

thief: blackgarrett

thief: Blackjack meets garrett

thief: Black market Bertha's Big Bad Blackjack Contest

thief: Private Posters

thief: A new cell for G.

thief: Harry Garett and the chamber of Loot

thief: Harry Garrett and the glyph broom

thief: Harry Garrett and the Taffer's Stone

Andersioh
09-23-2009, 05:54 AM
Thief IV: Revelations
or
Thief IV: Garrett
or
Thief IV: Mysteries

But it HAS to do with the story of ambience.

Anyway, as long as it is NOT Thi4f! :mad2:

darkmagicasorseer
09-25-2009, 04:49 PM
Hey guys, do you recall what happen in TDS in the Kurshok Caverns aka. the Sunken Citadels? One of the readings (books I have read) mentioned about how the fish people want to rise again to the surface to fight against the "Leafty Lord" (I presumed the Trickster) an yet there is no sign of these opponents in the later levels... How about making them the main antagonist and make the title name based on that? I have no cool names to make yet based on this (fish people) theme. But here goes...

Thief: The Sunken City

darkmagicasorseer
09-25-2009, 04:50 PM
ALL TAKEN FROM TTLG...

thief: friendly shadows

thief: War of the Clans

thief: The hammer and the paw

thief: Stout's Revenge

thief: Unknown Secrets

thief: unseen darkness

thief: Black dangers

thief: Missing Loot

thief: Tiffers and Taffers

thief: Stupid Guards

thief: The lost cloak

thief: Return of the Rope arrows

thief: Swim lesson

thief: Where's my eye?

thief: stolen stuff

thief: Orlandzilla

thief: nothing

thief: the stolen purse

thief: the stone age

thief: big bad blackjack backstab

thief: the key

thief: where is my sword?

thief: keeping keepers

thief: Is that a Rope ?

thief: The Useless age

thief: Get yourself a Cloak

thief: A sword for a Dagger

thief: Taffers and Thieves

thief: There goes the Clocktower

thief: Choking Moss

thief: go to jail

thief: reloaded

thief: revolutions

thief: the fellowship of the rope

thief: the two taffers

thief: the return of the cloak

thief: Lootless

thief: A new house for Big G.

thief: the thiefless age

thief: A new rope

thief: Benny Strikes Back

thief: Benny Strikes Twice

thief: Search for the final taffer

thief: The big search for Orland's Body

thief: Gold and Giant orlands

thief: Thiefproof

thief: My dagger for a horse

thief: Is that a sword?? TRASH IT !!!

thief: Them woodsie folk

thief: Get rid of your eye

thief: the lost guard

thief: NO TITLE

thief: Bes you there lakspur

thief: a lesson of paganish

thief: hammer those heads

thief: stand and deliver

thief: 50 Loot (12%)

thief: A smack in the face

thief: blackgarrett

thief: Blackjack meets garrett

thief: Black market Bertha's Big Bad Blackjack Contest

thief: Private Posters

thief: A new cell for G.

thief: Harry Garett and the chamber of Loot

thief: Harry Garrett and the glyph broom

thief: Harry Garrett and the Taffer's Stone

Thief: Marla and Garrett One night stand

Absinthe
10-17-2009, 08:06 AM
I was wearing my brand new Thief shirt to work yesterday. The most common reaction was: "Huh? What does that mean??". I think that's perfect proof that "Thi4f" doesn't work...

Change please!!!

Quad
10-18-2009, 01:05 PM
Annacond4
Die H4rd
T4XI (hey wait, this one is real)
St4r Trek
Spiderm4n
Leth4l We4pon
Indian4 Jones
Wing Comm4nder
Monkey Isl4nd
Thi4f
St4r W4rs

I don't believe any of those was amusing or don't even work. It's as if something is pulled inside and wants to come out. It just doesn't feel good. But still I can see on top of this page "Thi4f" and devs wearing t-shirts with the very same logo......


What about :

"Thief - Albedo" (lightreflection on surfaces)
"Thief - Enceladus" (brightest moon of Saturn, just reads nicely and is kinda mysterious)
"Thief - Atrum Luna" (Dark moon in latin), might as well be "Thief - Dark Moon"
"Thief IV" (it means it's the fourth installment of Thief and with "IV" it means it's going to be a true T2 successor)
"Thief 4" (I think it means it's the fourth installment of Thief and with "4", it means it's going to be the follow-up of TDS)

"Thief - Prophecy"
"Thief - Viktoria's Secret" .....kinky, but it's with "k" and not "c"

Psychomorph
10-18-2009, 01:29 PM
I was wearing my brand new Thief shirt to work yesterday. The most common reaction was: "Huh? What does that mean??". I think that's perfect proof that "Thi4f" doesn't work...

Change please!!!
Haha, that's a good one. Beat the marketing guy in the guts!!