Let's be realistic

[Chimaera]

Okay folks, I've browsed the forums a bit, and I've decided to make a thread that probably won't make me popular, but hell, I don't care.
:rasp:


I've decided to make a few predictions.

1.This game will not have multi-player.
2. This game will not have the Bat Family. Nor will they be playable characters.
3. This game will have, at the most, 9 main villians.
4. Th game will be 15-20 hours long.
5. There will be no DLC.

The reasons?

1. Honestly? I really don't think it has a chance of working, games like this should not have a multi player component imho.
2. I really think it would kill the atmosphere.
3. It's a nice number, and seeing as it's not huge it means the bosses themselves wont be too rushed.
4. Nothing wrong with that, for a stand alone single player game that's story driven.
5. DLC, a pipe dream.

I am by no means criticising others, merely voicing a slightly less enthusiastic opinion.


Maybe less enthusiastic is the wrong phrase, as I am really looking forward to this game.

[door noob]

Okay folks, I've browsed the forums a bit, and I've decided to make a thread that probably won't make me popular, but hell, I don't care.
:rasp:


I've decided to make a few predictions.

1.This game will not have multi-player.
2. This game will not have the Bat Family. Nor will they be playable characters.
3. This game will have, at the most, 9 main villians.
4. Th game will be 15-20 hours long.
5. There will be no DLC.

The reasons?

1. Honestly? I really don't think it has a chance of working, games like this should not have a multi player component imho.
2. I really think it would kill the atmosphere.
3. It's a nice number, and seeing as it's not huge it means the bosses themselves wont be too rushed.
4. Nothing wrong with that, for a stand alone single player game that's story driven.
5. DLC, a pipe dream.

I am by no means criticising others, merely voicing a slightly less enthusiastic opinion.


Maybe less enthusiastic is the wrong phrase, as I am really looking forward to this game.

Most of us probabily have alread observed(atleast i did) that what you have stated is true by far, although if eidos will persue in the batman franchise we might see some of the capbabilities that will not be available in this game.( I just consider the other threads what if... situations)

Though we may never be sure about the dlc

[The Hylden]

Personally, I don't buy games for multiplayer, nor DLC. This game is looking amazing, so if it weren't to have this all and was about 15-20 hours, it would be great, if the story were great and the gameplay was as well. All of this looks to have a fair shot at being so:) I agree with the initial post: I am very excited for this game!

[Drazar]

I don't see how DLC wouldn't be possible, i'm certain anyone here would love to get extra costumes and whatnot, its money for the company. =P

[RabidEasterBunny]

I agree with all accespt the villans. I mean, they have Amygdala. He's a minor villan, so if they do THAT much detail...

[Batmanhill6157]

Do I think multiplayer or DLC for this game would make it or break it? No. But any other included content if fine by me.

As for me I hope there are a lot of bosses, or maybe even a story that changes a little bit depending on how you play it

[Zsasz]

As long as you can do things by various means, I don't mind. I've always loved in games the ability to do things your way, whether it be full combat, sneaky Thief-esque scenario's, or even reasoning with people, I want to be able to accomplish something differently the next time I reply it.

DLC isn't a big thing for me because I doubt I would ever actually buy it, Multiplayer isn't something I'm dead excited about because when I'm feeling slightly less sociopathic and have friends over we usually don't play games, we either drink, talk, watch a few movies, etcetera.

I think I would rather have few but incredibly well put together villains than lots of shoddily made second-rate quick-time event reliant bosses just because we want Calendar Man, who is to be frank a fairly useless super villain.

[HystericFreak]

I agree with all of them, apart from DLC; developers nowadays are using it as a way to test out their skills for future games and as a way to make more money by plying us with delicious little bits and pieces.

Mmmmm bits and piecesss.....

[shadowmatt18]

it been stated that oracle will be your intel throughout the game, wether or not it's voiced by barbara from the TAS hasn't been confirmed. multiplayer? "boy, and i thought my jokes were bad". you just can't do multiplayer in a game like this it's like [almost] every spiderman game, it just wouldn't work out and would be a waste. DLC maybe, but i doubt they would be that greedy for a couple extra bucks. i believe that the darkness and seriousness of the situation would look less dangerous if you had a colourful character like robin involved therefore batman should go solo in combat (just my opinion).

[imbatman08]

Is They Guy Who Posted This Mad You Think There Will Only Be 9 Big Boss's

I Cant See Them Trying To Make The " Best Batman Game To Date " with only 9 Boss's It Just Wouldnt Feel Right..

As A Batman Fan I Wanna See Way More Than 9

[angleslam99]

9 main villains? How do you figure? If this is Arkham, I'm sure there will be AT LEAST 15 or 20

[shadowmatt18]

9 main villains? How do you figure? If this is Arkham, I'm sure there will be AT LEAST 15 or 20

well now that you think about it... maybe we will only see like 9 boss batles for size restrictions. most games only have just a few villains.

[angleslam99]

well now that you think about it... maybe we will only see like 9 boss batles for size restrictions. most games only have just a few villains.

9 boss battles maybe, but he said we'd only get 9 villains. that's false, im sure there will be more than that

[Chimaera]

I said 9 main villains people, main villians don't include foes like Amygdala.

The Joker will obviously be fought more than once, but I like the idea of nine, it's a good number. I'm not claiming any higher knowledge, simply opinion.

Also, Firefly would be an amazing boss.

[shadowmatt18]

I said 9 main villains people, main villians don't include foes like Amygdala.

The Joker will obviously be fought more than once, but I like the idea of nine, it's a good number. I'm not claiming any higher knowledge, simply opinion.

Also, Firefly would be an amazing boss.

naw you'll only face joker once, the whole point of the game is to catch joker and bring order to the asylum.

[Wigglez]

I do kinda see DLC for this game. But, the only DLC I see in this game is more levels, and more costumes other than the ones you unlock from beating the game.

[|THE D3T3TIVE|]

Well My Xbox 360 is broke with is where most DLC is Going to Go if there is any. Well let me ask you this why would there be multi-player in a batman Game ? that dose Not really make any since to start with. i can see them adding on Extra Levels to Arkham asylum it self so you can get afew more hours out of the game.kinda like oblivion when you download something it just add's another place or section to the world your in.

i Wont rule out Night wing or Cassandra Cain just yet. besides they are Releasing alot of DLC for the tomb raider games like costumes & levels. i am Guessing there will be something but maybe not right off the bat.

[pdgeorge]

I think the best way to see what might happen would be to look at the recent batman movies, how they were done, why they were popular, and why too many under 15's will buy this game despite there being laws against it. (those little brats buying games they shouldn't even have gives a bad name to all gamers out there...)

I have to say I agree with the points made, however for different reasons.

1) from what I know of the game so far, I can't see a good platform for staging multiplayer on. The closest I can guess is (for 2 players only) one good guy, one bad guy. Bad guy trying to do something, good guy trying to stop. (good guy obviously being batman and bad guy being one of the villians). For more then 2 players... brawling. set up a ring, pick a character, and let them brawl. That's the best I can come up with (and that's not that great... the 2 player one I wouldn't mind playing)

2) If the batfamily would be in it, they would have been shown already would be the most obvious thing. The less obvious but still true comment would be "playing on the hype built up from the last movie" Batman by himself versus Joker. It's already been done before in MK vs DC. Superman was the big good guy in that for DC, but somehow (maybe related to the aforementioned movie success) joker and batman got a lot more screen time then the rest of them. That's just a round about way of saying "This is somewhat cashing in on current popularity". Another good reason for not having the batfamily... if they have to have any of them, they have to have robin (because everyone is familiar with robin being the sidekick, most people don't know about the rest of it) and simply enough... people hate robin. (DC asked people to vote their opinion 'should robin live? or die?', everyone wanted him to die... SO they had robin beat to death by the joker with a lead pipe)

3) I can't say I'm 100% for or against this number, it depends how the game is designed. Whether its "heaps of minions then a boss" or "chase a boss most of the game, each level is one boss" would change the number of villeins

4) going back to my other "riding the popularity pony" comment, as a stand alone game people will buy it even if it's that short because it appears to have good game play so far. You only need to make the game longer and more in depth if you have to try and attract more attention to it.
I don't mind the idea of it being 15-20 hours... however in my books that makes it a 'rental'. Most gamers can finish a game of that length over the course of a weekend (even while doing other things) It would need things to add replay value to it to make it something I'd actually buy (assuming it's only the 15-20 hour thing, I have yet to see more about the game as it goes)

5) May or may not be DLC. For DLC: it's extra money for little more work (since it's just working on what they already have etc.) Best ideas would probably be extra floors of the building, adding multiplayer later on, etc.
Against: for the most part they won't need it I don't think. I remember back in the day *rocking chair* games were sold complete, without bugs and patches and the like.



and a point 6)
Australians will get ****ed.
(whether in release date, DLC availability or even just price. Video game developers just don't like us)

[HystericFreak]

...Australians will get ****ed.
(whether in release date, DLC availability or even just price. Video game developers just don't like us)

*hug* There there mate, maybe one day the fairy will come and be nice to us for a change...?

... Naw, fat chance. We pay through our nose for any kind of entertainment down here, don't companies realise we aren't a penal colony anymore? -_- Ahhh the joy of the Australian economy.

My one issue with DLC is that because our dollar is pathetic I usually have to double the price. That and yes, it is actually nice to have a game that can stand alone, and be complete without little extra bits tagged on. I would never pay for silly visual pluses like extra costumes for Batman, even though I am an incredibly shallow and shiny based person. It's just not worth my money.

[SamStar42]

Don't know why, but I can see there being DLC. Maybe like The Force Unleashed Character Packs, where you can download 'faces' or so, and play the storyline as the Joker or Robin, etc etc.

Maybe a bonus mission, but that might be a bit optimistic.

[Stealthguy1986]

[QUOTE]As long as you can do things by various means, I don't mind. I've always loved in games the ability to do things your way, whether it be full combat, sneaky Thief-esque scenario's, or even reasoning with people, I want to be able to accomplish something differently the next time I reply it.[\QUOTE]

Well said Zsaz. All of ur ideas were promising but I really like ur idea of 'reasoning with people' . I feel it would be cool if bat could reason with the enemies and show them the correct path. After all Batman is not just a brawling vigillante, he is wise too and by includng this feature , I think it would reflect how wise batman is.

[DrBo42]

I think you guys are out of your minds if you think this is going to be more than a 10 hour game. I actually think most will probably get through it in 6-8 hours.

[taskun56]

Think about Bioshock. Made with the same engine. Approx 15-20 hours long. No DLC. No multiplayer, and easily one of best games of the year.

Don't forge that the following behind Batman is nearly the same as Star Wars. With that kind of following people will buy this game regardless.

I foresee this being one of the best video games of '09. I wasn't even a Batman fan until The Dark Knight, but after looking up Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth I feel that this is going to easily become a bestseller.

[The Hylden]

From the IGN article here:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/949/949536p1.html

Seeing as how this is supposed to be the longest night in Batman's life, look for the hero to be sporting more and more stubble as the events wear on. As the events of the night unfold, expect Batman's costume to become damaged and stay damaged -- when holes pop up in his cape, you'll need to account for it when you glide.

I believe it said something about a lot of familiar villains as well. The longest night in Batman's life facing all of those villains doesn't constitute only 6-8 hours in my mind... I can only hope Rocksteady wouldn't think so as well...

Edit: although thinking about it, a night sure doens't last that long anyway, now does it? lmao

[|THE D3T3TIVE|]

From the IGN article here:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/949/949536p1.html



I believe it said something about a lot of familiar villains as well. The longest night in Batman's life facing all of those villains doesn't constitute only 6-8 hours in my mind... I can only hope Rocksteady wouldn't think so as well...

Edit: although thinking about it, a night sure doens't last that long anyway, now does it? lmao

In Most of the Comics batman/bruce Normally Starts his Knight work Right after the Sun Go's Down Since He is so obsessed with keeping order in the city. Since Gotham city was Created with New york city in mind i am Guessing it Takes him about 30 minutes to get home or maybe a bit over that. Then it Takes about another Good 10-15 minutes to get suited up and into the batmobile. since in the new video batman said joker did not really put up much of a fight gives me the idea they where in a remote location Not alot of joker's men where Present & it had to be something to trow batman off a litte.

So i am thinking bruce Got at wayne manor around 7:15 New york time that is. Got the joker by 8:00. it is said it takes the batmoble around 5 or 10 minutes to get to the city's center from wayne manor. so i am guessing around 15 minutes and some changes when on his way to arkham. then they have to stab the joker in with the walk most of the way to the intensive care ward with is deep into the asylum on the lower levels i am Guessing. That and there using a very slow cargo Elevator. so by the time joker brake's free & Harley starts to let everyone out i am thinking anywhere with in the time frame's between 9:30 -10:55.

Knowing batman is a very Smart guy this trip game wise i think would be around maybe 12-13 hours depending on all they put into the game. in a comic book i would say to get every good Ankle on the story maybe 6 or 7 comics and in animated movie at best just 2 hours. well that's my take on it.

[Blak Puddn]

Buy the game play it then comeback and write a review.:wave:

[ysoserious1999bday]

idk if batamn does nt have to breathe unferwater that would be un realistic :mad2:

[Kai Rei]

idk if batamn does nt have to breathe unferwater that would be un realistic :mad2:

I don't think we'll ever be going underneath the water anyway. I don't think Arkham has it's own Sea Life Centre.

[Darth]

I don't think we'll ever be going underneath the water anyway. I don't think Arkham has it's own Sea Life Centre.

Well, there is the sewer where Killer Croc was in the teaser.

[PS3/PSPGamer7]

How deep is sewer water...? Any way if for osme strange chance Batman must be underwater I'm sure he has some kinda sweet gadget for that. Like a batbreather

[death stroke]

as far as play able charactors
I would like to be able to unlock charactors by beatin the game on a difficulty
easy= robin
normal= batgirl
hard= night wing
super hard= alfred:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kai Rei]

as far as play able charactors
I would like to be able to unlock charactors by beatin the game on a difficulty
easy= robin
normal= batgirl
hard= night wing
super hard= Azrael.

Fixed.