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Headache
11-13-2008, 01:12 PM
So my mom works with the public school transportation around here, and the bus she works on is special needs. There are 2 attendants, including my mom and this one other guy.
Anyways, she came home last night and said the one guy was flossing his teeth on the bus and she told him she thought it was somewhat inappropriate to do that in public... He disagreed and said, "Well it's my space" so my mom replied, "Well then would you mind if I picked my nose?" and he snapped, "As long as it's in your space" :rolleyes:
My inquiry is this: Is it indeed inappropriate to do any kind of hygiene in public?
Personally, it doesn't bother me - as far as flossing goes - just as long as they don't misfire any slimy missiles at me o_0
Picking noses is a plain turn-off, however...
http://hamiltoncountydemocraticparty.com/hillary_clinton_picking_nose.jpg
staticon
11-13-2008, 01:44 PM
Must admit it doesn't bother me.
Living in a very large town I think I've seen just about everything at one time or another.
And I'm not above re-arranging the family heirlooms in public in the interests of comfort. :lol:
van_HellSing
11-13-2008, 01:54 PM
Somewhat off topic:
I work at a gas station, doing night shifts primarily. It was a pretty relaxing job until a few weeks ago.
But recently, the mayor of my town passed a bill prohibiting any stores from being open past 10pm. Catch is, gas stations are obviously not accounted for.
So now we have to deal with all the worst alcoholic scum from the whole area... You wouldn't believe how people can STINK. Not to mention the increased fun of cleaning the toilets...
And try to explain to a bunch of vandal, sometimes drugged up "sports fans" that you can't sell anything for about half an hour at midnight because you have to do all the stuff related to closing the fiscal day (while the company requires that the front doors are still open).
andy3536
11-13-2008, 02:19 PM
What a strange subject......
Flossing, can't really see a problem there, providing he doesn't leave the floss on the bus seat it's not ever going to effect anybody else.
Picking your nose though, defenatly wrong. Especially if you have nowhere to put it and the next person that sits in that seat might leave with it attached somewhere or put a hand in it.:(
MRSA lives up the nose and isn't a pleasant thing to catch.
Basicly anything that can be self contained and doesn't involve removing clothing shouldn't be a problem.:thumbsup:
KoolKat
11-13-2008, 02:26 PM
I don't mind people doing such things if they are trying to improve their hygiene, for example, brushing their hair, flossing teeth (after all - how do you feel looking at someone who still has part of their lunch in their teeth?), wiping their face with a wet one... :)
Nose picking (they could always use a tissue), spitting and public urinating etc is not improving hygiene, however and is just a sheer disgusting lack of manners. Seeing people do such things really makes me feel ill. ****
Speaking of hygiene, there are some people out there who just don't seem to be aware that they actually make people ill. I work with a girl who stinks ferociously of both BO and excrement (she has some stomach twisting toilet behaviour) but she doesn't seem to care. Trying to do something as simple as talk to her can be a nightmare because the smell is strong enough that it makes me gag. There are lots of other similar people out there too.
It scares me because at what point did society allow these people to behave in this way?
Randy 54
11-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Any kind of personal hygiene that can create a health hazard to others should not be done in public. Flossing would fit into this category as it has the potential to spread bacteria.****
james987654321
11-13-2008, 07:32 PM
It does seem a bit strange, but to actually mention it to the person is rude.
chip5541
11-13-2008, 07:36 PM
and you can also get sued for it as well. Several cases of people suing because they pass gas too much or too much odor and when mentioned they sue. :mad2:
Spong
11-13-2008, 08:10 PM
I accidentally spat on someone while I was waiting to start work once, I did it as I was turning round. I was as genuinely shocked as the person I did it to, but his reaction was so ridiculous that by the time I wiped it off the bottom of his trouser leg, I was in fits of hysterics.
:lol:
So people pick their noses in public or spit or fart or burp, so what? Are they murdering children?
It scares me because at what point did society allow these people to behave in this way?
What kind of horrible attitude is that?
I don't think I'd say anything to someone who was flossing their teeth, it's be an 'ew' moment though.
Living in London and using public transport I'd say that personal hygiene and people washing thoroughly is a more pressing issue. There nothing worse than standing next to someone that stinks up the tube http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/p/puke.gif
LaraCroftRox
11-14-2008, 02:59 AM
This thread is icky. :lol: :lmao: :p
andy3536
11-14-2008, 06:32 AM
I don't mind people doing such things if they are trying to improve their hygiene, for example, brushing their hair, flossing teeth (after all - how do you feel looking at someone who still has part of their lunch in their teeth?), wiping their face with a wet one... :)
Nose picking (they could always use a tissue), spitting and public urinating etc is not improving hygiene, however and is just a sheer disgusting lack of manners. Seeing people do such things really makes me feel ill. ****
Speaking of hygiene, there are some people out there who just don't seem to be aware that they actually make people ill. I work with a girl who stinks ferociously of both BO and excrement (she has some stomach twisting toilet behaviour) but she doesn't seem to care. Trying to do something as simple as talk to her can be a nightmare because the smell is strong enough that it makes me gag. There are lots of other similar people out there too.
It scares me because at what point did society allow these people to behave in this way?
In my contract with work it says somthing about keeping a good level of hygene.
So if i went to work smelling of No2 then i could get the sack for breach of contract.
But they are always showing round potential customers trying to say what a wonderfull place it is and what a wonderful job we do. They'd never belive it if we all stank like a toilet, even if it is a workshop.
I would hope that girl you work with isn't let loose on customers, they'd be likely never to return.
It's about morals and hygiene.
If it were oh so natural then surely, we wouldn't care if someone was picking their nose but I find it repulsive - same with people who pick their ears (sorry but it is disgusting).
I could elaborate but I won't as if I did you'd all just starve to death if I told you what I have found in a plate of food once.
What I find UNACCEPTABLE is folk who do not prepare food hygienically. I'm not for one moment suggesting we become a germ-free society for we need a certain level of contamination to build up a half-decent immune system. But I am referring to TV chefs here too.
Remember that cookery show The Two Fat Ladies? one used to insist on handling everything whilst wearing chunky rings (no doubt with soap trapped beneath them), and red nail varnish (which can chip and also it covers a multitude of sins beneath).
If that isn't bad enough, TV chefs never tie their hair back or wear caps and even if I find one of my own hairs in food I'm on the verge of regurgitating the lot. But that's an infrequent occurence since I tie my hair back when preparing food AND i roll my sleeves back. Chefs don't always wear the correct attire and have these fluffy jumpers and tops that attract fluff and they lean over everything. it's nasty.
One more thing. Staff in cake shops and sandwich bars do not always handle food with gloves. They use their hands and then they handle coins and paper money. That's out of order. One person or more should handle the food and one person handle the money. :mad2:
KoolKat
11-14-2008, 03:48 PM
What kind of horrible attitude is that?
I don't understand what you mean by that. Personal hygiene is a simple yet important part of life. It's not rocket science. I pride myself in always making sure I keep clean and tidy.
I said what I did because somehow some members of society sees it as ok to approach a smoker to tell them to 'put it out' or that they have 'a digusting habit' (I should know - I was approached many times before I quit), but at what point do those same people feel comfortable approaching the unhygienic people and saying 'excuse me, but your odour is making me sick'? It's simply not nice and not fair that the people who do make the effort in taking care of themselves must suffer at work, or on the bus or wherever else due to those disgusting people?
Andy3536 - I don't know if our work has one of those. I wish it did. She serves customers regularly and they have complained once or twice, but most are too embarrassed to say anything to anyone except other till workers or their friends and family.
I couldn't agree more Lo. A lot of them do seem to risk food poisoning. Also, I know what you mean about the money. I handle a lot of cash at work and at the end of my shifts, my hands are almost black (not to mention, nobody knows where the money has been previously). It wouldn't take 5 minutes for them to quickly wash their hands or even just rub on some of that alcohol dry hand wash stuff that evaporates. Really though, they should wear gloves.
naraku
11-14-2008, 04:44 PM
My inquiry is this: Is it indeed inappropriate to do any kind of hygiene in public?
Personally, it doesn't bother me - as far as flossing goes - just as long as they don't misfire any slimy missiles at me o_0
Picking noses is a plain turn-off, however...
http://hamiltoncountydemocraticparty.com/hillary_clinton_picking_nose.jpg Hey Headache, long time no see. Is that really Hillary picking her nose?
at what point did society allow these people to behave in this way? People have been pigs since the dawn of time. I wonder if the almighty wonders that as well.
and you can also get sued for it as well. Several cases of people suing because they pass gas too much or too much odor and when mentioned they sue. :mad2: They get sued. You haven't been sued have you?
It's about morals and hygiene.
Hmm.. Morals and Hygiene? That has always, changed with the times. At least it's not like the middle ages, when people showered once a year. I guess that's why they put makeup and invent perfume. Oh by the way you didn't find a finger in your food did you?
On the question of hygiene in public?! there's always public bath rooms. :whistle: But at least we're not like chimpanzee's grooming each other and eating each others flees. If someone farts the polite thing for him to say is "excuse me", and we say "Your excused". If someone is a total pig I let them know, sure they'll get pissed, if they sue me, sure why not? let everyone know what a pig they are.
This thread makes me feel dirty....:lol: I think I'll take a shower now...:lmao:
Headache
11-15-2008, 04:33 AM
Hey Headache, long time no see. Is that really Hillary picking her nose?
Hey, how's it going?
But yes, that is indeed Hillary truly picking her nose :D
I'm not going to elaborate on things I have found in my food because I might risk damaging somebody and giving them a food phobia! :rasp: I don't want to be responsible for someone developing an eating disorder!
But yes, Koolkat is bang on the money (oh a pun!), when she mentions how grotty money is. But I doubt those germs would harm us so much. Still, that isn't to say we want our food to be handled by someone who has been handling dirty money. Launder it first if need be :lol: (j/k!).
All of us have a tendency to shed things like skin and hair. It's natural. But to avoid contaminating food, people should wear the correct protective clothing. Another thing I find replusive is folk who graze on the food they are preparing before dipping the spoon back in the pot, or dipping their finger into something. It's totally unnecessary.
I make a lot of homemade grub because that way I get to wash everything and know exactly what I'm eating!!
naraku
11-15-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm not going to elaborate on things I have found in my food because I might risk damaging somebody and giving them a food phobia! :rasp: I don't want to be responsible for someone developing an eating disorder!
But yes, Koolkat is bang on the money (oh a pun!), when she mentions how grotty money is. But I doubt those germs would harm us so much. Still, that isn't to say we want our food to be handled by someone who has been handling dirty money. Launder it first if need be :lol: (j/k!).
All of us have a tendency to shed things like skin and hair. It's natural. But to avoid contaminating food, people should wear the correct protective clothing. Another thing I find replusive is folk who graze on the food they are preparing before dipping the spoon back in the pot, or dipping their finger into something. It's totally unnecessary.
I make a lot of homemade grub because that way I get to wash everything and know exactly what I'm eating!!
I don't know, we tend to think that our food is clean right from the grocery store, but if last year and this are any indication, with the E-coli scare that ain't the case. Fresh just isn't fresh anymore. Nothing is ever for certain, and germs are part of life. Manners are a human invention, we think too much for the sake of thought.
andy3536
11-16-2008, 02:30 AM
I don't know, we tend to think that our food is clean right from the grocery store, but if last year and this are any indication, with the E-coli scare that ain't the case. Fresh just isn't fresh anymore. Nothing is ever for certain, and germs are part of life. Manners are a human invention, we think too much for the sake of thought.
Manners are also about showing a little respect to those around you. Just as it's a human invention, doesn't make it bad.
Good manners are the tiny threads that seperates us thinly from the neanderthals of this world ;)
KoolKat
11-16-2008, 12:58 PM
I couldn't agree more, Lo. :)
Love2Raid
11-16-2008, 01:51 PM
I think both flossing and nose-picking, and also burping, farting and spitting is inappropriate in public. It's just......****
Unless of course, it's a 'whoops'-moment and unintentionally. Like Hillary.........I think she was in deep thought at that moment! :o :lol:
naraku
11-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Manners are also about showing a little respect to those around you. Just as it's a human invention, doesn't make it bad.
It's weird what can be passed for good manners these days though.
Good manners are the tiny threads that seperates us thinly from the neanderthals of this world ;)
Not by much, I'd say, Maybe we're the Neanderthals? :whistle:
Tomb-Dude
11-17-2008, 09:19 AM
I've been brought up with manners and the one thing i hate is super market toilets.
I only know the guys loos obvious :whistle: but yeah, they stink to hell and back the guys who go in there do their business and don't wash their hands. I might sound "snobby" but i think that sort of thing is discgusting :p
Even my "friend" (when we use to be) when he came round I had a right go at him 1 for not flushing the toilet and 2 not washing his hands (bedroom was next to bathroom and could hear the tap and toilet go) I makes me shiver... Sorry if i sound snobby.
But flossing in public, I don't mind that much. They are cleaning their teeth, if i have something in my teeth in public and it's annoying me i try and get it out.
KoolKat
11-17-2008, 03:47 PM
I don't think you're snobby. I think your friend should have at least flushed without having to be told.
As well as being plain good manners, simple actions like washing our hands after being to the bathroom, not picking our noses and not spitting on the streets are what helps to prevent the spread of disease.
It's natural for us to be disgusted by certain things because it is often those same certain things that can lead to illness. I have often found that the people who claim that we're snobby for feeling as such only say so to try to defend their own poor hygiene control.
Headache
11-17-2008, 04:54 PM
I have often found that the people who claim that we're snobby for feeling as such only say so to try to defend their own poor hygiene control.
Aye, very true.
naraku
11-17-2008, 10:53 PM
I've been brought up with manners and the one thing i hate is super market toilets.
I only know the guys loos obvious :whistle: but yeah, they stink to hell and back the guys who go in there do their business and don't wash their hands. I might sound "snobby" but i think that sort of thing is discgusting :p
Even my "friend" (when we use to be) when he came round I had a right go at him 1 for not flushing the toilet and 2 not washing his hands (bedroom was next to bathroom and could hear the tap and toilet go) I makes me shiver... Sorry if i sound snobby.
But flossing in public, I don't mind that much. They are cleaning their teeth, if i have something in my teeth in public and it's annoying me i try and get it out.
Tomb Dude, you made me loose my lunch. *puke*
Tomb-Dude
11-18-2008, 10:11 AM
Tomb Dude, you made me loose my lunch. *puke*
Glad I could be of service :p
Raziel'sRevenge
11-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Ugh, I work at a Stewart's (it's basically an east-coast convienence store) and I have all manner of people come in. I usually work the late shift, which goes on until midnight, so we get some strange ones. Stinky people I can handle. A lot of people reek of booze, and quite a few are unbathed, and there are a lot of guys who're just getting out of work and covered in grease and oil, so they can't really help it, but there have been people that we've actually requested to leave. We can't do it, but if another customer complains then we can pass it on. Big fun.
On another note,
900th post!!!!!!!!
Raindrops Melody
11-18-2008, 06:01 PM
As long as it's not aruond me.:lol:
Awww!!! poor Spong!!!
This thread is icky. :lol: :lmao: :p
I agree!!!
Round my way there's a grocery store with a bakery at the rear.
Anyhow, they put fresh produce such as rolls on a shelf that's at floor level and they don't provide any tongs.
One day I witnessed a FILTHY farmer with muck-riddled hands, handle a bread loaf and then put it back on the shelf. I've reported them before to the correct authority and they are still doing it so either nothing was done or there's a loophole in the laws that govern food hygiene.
Revolting. :rolleyes:
Raindrops Melody
11-22-2008, 10:43 AM
Round my way there's a grocery store with a bakery at the rear.
Anyhow, they put fresh produce such as rolls on a shelf that's at floor level and they don't provide any tongs.
One day I witnessed a FILTHY farmer with muck-riddled hands, handle a bread loaf and then put it back on the shelf. I've reported them before to the correct authority and they are still doing it so either nothing was done or there's a loophole in the laws that govern food hygiene.
Revolting. :rolleyes:
Yuck!!! That's absuloutly horrid!!! :eek: I heard of some funny disgusting things going on in the fast food places here.....:nut: *shudders*
Oh I hear you, Tessa.
I once sat outside of McDonalds and saw someone emerge from the rear door (kitchen staff access), and smoke a cig, plus handle the wheelie bin. The person went back in and I thought "God I hope you DID wash those grubby hands" :(
I like to have a clear view of the kitchen when I go to an eaterie.
There is one tell-tell sign. If you know the flat/apartment above a small take-away or restaurant is being lived in by the restauant owners, take a look at the windows. A lot of them have really grotty net curtains that haven't been laundered in centuries. If their living accommodation is that bad then I don't imagine their food hygiene would be any better to be honest :eek: "Ick"
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