DX3 Music - Will it be Alexander Brandon? Other suggestions etc

[MagnumJoe]

I think that one of the strongest points about Deus Ex, over most of this world's games, is that it had an outstandingly good ambient music.

And this music, is what gave the game its "movie" nature. You kinda feel you are playing a movie, not a game, i.e: very immersing!

So i urge the developers, to make it good this time.

I trust Alex Brandon and the rest of the team.

Edit: I found his email, it's: abrandon@midway.com :D Let's send him a request!

[StormFront]

I think that one of the strongest points about Deus Ex, over most of this world's games, is that it had an outstandingly good ambient music.

And this music, is what gave the game its "movie" nature. You kinda feel you are playing a movie, not a game, i.e: very immersing!

So i urge the developers, to make it good this time.

I trust Alex Brandon and the rest of the team.


Swings and roundabouts though. While I liked the music and still get goosebumps when I hear the main theme like any DX fan, I often wished it would shut the hell up. Having a continuous jungle track that just played along merrily was deeply annoying (esp. Hong Kong! GAH!). Hopefully something more subtle and refined can be implemented with a newer engine (though I still wish the cheap skates had shelled for UEng 3...)

[gamer0004]

I really liked the HK themes. Hope it isn't any more subtle than in DX.
I have confident in the dev team too. Everything you hear or see about this project sounds/looks good.

[StormFront]

I really liked the HK themes. Hope it isn't any more subtle than in DX.
I have confident in the dev team too. Everything you hear or see about this project sounds/looks good.

:confused:

Other than the teaser clip and the engine, we know nothing about this game. Nothing.

We also know not one thing about the team as it is newly formed and this is their first game.

On what is your confidence based, pray tell?

[MagnumJoe]

Having a continuous jungle track that just played along merrily was deeply annoying.

But i think at this stage of the game, it had to be merry, or somewhat merry: because it was like.. a payback start. Like the NYC2 theme: that one is very expressive.

It's a track that gives you optimism about your future plans for the world, and gives you security about the place too: you don't need to lurk much in HK.

And also, once you get in Versalife or the canal, it switches to the dark side at once!

I find this track perfect :D

But i appreciate your opinion: i admit it, sometimes it felt stupid with it playing all the time: it actually distracted me sometimes.

[gamer0004]

:confused:

Other than the teaser clip and the engine, we know nothing about this game. Nothing.

We also know not one thing about the team as it is newly formed and this is their first game.

On what is your confidence based, pray tell?

On what they've said so far. Everything they say in interviews sounds well-conceived (relatively small teams and such), I think the choice of the engine was good (looks like they aim at good gameplay than good graphics) and the trailer is, after you've carefully watched it, great and really DX-like.
Every piece of information so far has been good (not that it means a lot, of course they can still screw it up).

[MagnumJoe]

(not that it means a lot, of course they can still screw it up).

O boy: that's a thriller!

[StormFront]

On what they've said so far. Everything they say in interviews sounds well-conceived (relatively small teams and such), I think the choice of the engine was good (looks like they aim at good gameplay than good graphics) and the trailer is, after you've carefully watched it, great and really DX-like.
Every piece of information so far has been good (not that it means a lot, of course they can still screw it up).

Going for gameplay over graphics? With THAT engine. The engine for which we had to wait an entire generation of graphics cards in order to play it? And they plan to UPGRADE it? Gameplay OVER graphics? You sure?

[gamer0004]

I ment gamaplay above graphics...

[MagnumJoe]

Gameplay OVER graphics? You sure?

Graphics, can't by any means, make me accept a game with bad gameplay.

I can withstand bad graphics, when gameplay is good,
but i can never withstand bad gameplay, even if graphics are super!

[comy]

Deus Ex 1 had superb music!!! It was one of my fovourite soundtracks in the game selection! The NY theme, gloomy, darkish, Hong Kong track was great imho, overall the music contributed so much atmosphere to the game it was impressive.
But then came DX2. I was shocked to find that after finishing the entire game I didn't remember a single track. It was all there in the background, totally ambiental, no it wasnt even ambiental it was like the music wasnt even there... one of biggest dissapointemets...
So I suggest that DX3 music goes back to its roots! :whistle:

[MagnumJoe]

I am with you comy...

[StormFront]

Hold up, I think my post is being missinterpreted. I loved the Deus Ex music too, however there was too much of it IMO. By this I mean that it did not need to play all the time, over and over. I liked that each level had a theme; that was very atmospheric. However I wish there had been more ambient music about the place (tragically a little like IW, but that is not a popular example).

No doubt we will get something quite different musically as the team is not using any version of the UEng which was the defining factor of the Deus Ex music

[Red]

Cold, cyberpunk, partly industrial. I believe that's a good recipé for DeusEx.

(Well, depends on the whole theme of the game... We all remember, DX1 was dark, night-time, misterious, empty, and we all love it because of it.)

[MagnumJoe]

Hold up, I think my post is being missinterpreted. I loved the Deus Ex music too, however there was too much of it IMO. By this I mean that it did not need to play all the time, over and over. I liked that each level had a theme; that was very atmospheric. However I wish there had been more ambient music about the place (tragically a little like IW, but that is not a popular example).

No doubt we will get something quite different musically as the team is not using any version of the UEng which was the defining factor of the Deus Ex music

Ah, i get you.

[Bluey71]

Yup loved the DX 1 music. As for ambient sound, that was pretty good too. I remember listening to the sound of mj12 troopers boots on metal, sure did it for me and put right there in the middle of the action.

[Joseph Manderley's Corpse]

Best video game score ever.

[van_HellSing]

GOD NO

For the most part, Deus Ex had terrible music. There are some good tracks (UNATCO comes to mind), but the rest... Also, the mod technology made it sound outdated even when the first game premiered, nevermind now.

The main theme ranks high on my "worst game music of all time" list. I cannot help but wonder why some people seem to like it - I guess it's an association thing, nostalgia; it reminds us of Deus Ex, and since DX is awesome, the music eventually managed to develop positive connotations too.

[DarkForge]

A matter of preference, I guess, van_HellSing. Personally I loved pretty much all the music in the first game.

Joseph Manderley's Corpse: I don't know if you meant reusing the exact same music, although I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Maybe reuse/adapt one or two pieces where relevant, but not the whole score.

I'd say new music would be needed, but I do think that it should be in the same style as that in the first game. The music in IW wasn't that memorable IMO, and the only IW music I like listening to except the Kidney Thieves songs were the few short pieces that sampled melodies from the first game. I get the approach they were going for in IW, with more natural "atmospheric" music, but I just don't feel it lived up to Hong Kong's awesome oriental tunage or the comfortably familiar tones of the UNATCO HQ. Many is the time I find myself humming along to the music when playing through DX1, something that for the most part I found impossible to do with IW.

[Joseph Manderley's Corpse]

GOD NO

For the most part, Deus Ex had terrible music. There are some good tracks (UNATCO comes to mind), but the rest... Also, the mod technology made it sound outdated even when the first game premiered, nevermind now.

The main theme ranks high on my "worst game music of all time" list. I cannot help but wonder why some people seem to like it - I guess it's an association thing, nostalgia; it reminds us of Deus Ex, and since DX is awesome, the music eventually managed to develop positive connotations too.

It goes to familiarity I guess. If you played HL2, you can't help but notice that the sound effects are the same as the original. The entire franchise is like that.
Did you check out the DX3 teaser? Tell me hearing that theme didn't get your attention...:cool:

[AlexBrandon]

Wow. I'm glad so many were fond of the soundtrack. StormFront, I do have to agree with you. Deus Ex had some good themes and a strong overall musical identity, but the repetition was indeed annoying. Back in those days we didn't pay as much attention to gameplay time against music length. It was more about "eh, two minutes should suffice for this entire level, as long as we have combat and exploration", but if exploration lasted a lot longer than combat, etc.. It's one of the things that taught me to work much more closely with designers on a regular basis as to a level's specific progressions and mechanics.

I also agree with the folks that think the music itself is outdated. It is! While nice for nostalgia, MODs are dead except in handheld, and we even used a live orchestra to record the main theme for the PS2 version.

I'm definitely flattered and honored that Eidos had a nod to the original theme in the trailer. I'm hoping they'll take the memorable bits from the original games (my personal favorite is the title from DX:IW, for example) and skillfully weave them into DX3, while giving the game a feel all it's own and introducing new themes. I'm excited to see what this game will unfold into.

[van_HellSing]

Yup, it did give me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside. But I was glad it was just the beggining ambient tones rather than the main melody ;)

[Tyrant Worm]

As cheesy as it was, I loved the music from the original. Even mentioning the words "Deus Ex" immediately starts the music in my head. When I cover modern China in my history classes, I have the Hong Kong music in my head. I will NEVER forget the music from the first game. I can't remember a single song from the second, however.

[Kasjada]

Well the soundtrack from Deus Ex 1 was really cool (I like to listen to it even when i don't play DX1). I think it would be great to hear the music again in situations that have something to do with DX1. I could imagine that this would be a nice effect concerning the atmosphere.

[WhatsHisFace]

Music is one of those things that carries a spirit with it. Anyone remember how ghostly it was going through JC's UNATCO memory in Deus Ex: Invisible War? For such a short game moment it was really quite impacting. I highly agree with the Topic Starter.

[Harakiribert]

I really love the DX soundtrack. It adds so much to the atmosphere.
I was a bit disappointed from the IW music as I was from the game as well.

I hope the style of the DX3 soundtrack will be more DX1ish again this time.

[binaryboy]

I loved the music and the sound in general. It helped to create the atmosphere of the game.

[Harakiribert]

I love the DX music so much, it's an all time permanent on my mp3 player and my winamp playlist.
Though ingame I usually turn the volume of the music down to better hear the footsteps of my enemies.

[ricwhite]

Just listened to bits of the soundtrack again. Wow. Talk about bringing back the mood and the feeling of the game. Classic music. No other game has ever done that.

[StormFront]

Just listened to bits of the soundtrack again. Wow. Talk about bringing back the mood and the feeling of the game. Classic music. No other game has ever done that.

No other game had good music that was evocative of the game itself? Are you serious?

I know that the DX music was iconic and recognisable (and I want the themes it painted to be carried forward) but the style of them was terrible. Sounded like the midi crap you'd get on the Amiga back in the day

[WhatsHisFace]

No other game had good music that was evocative of the game itself? Are you serious?

I know that the DX music was iconic and recognisable (and I want the themes it painted to be carried forward) but the style of them was terrible. Sounded like the midi crap you'd get on the Amiga back in the day
But on the other side of the fence, it shouldn't sound like the orchestral score from "The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion" either. Some of Deus Ex's songs I simply can't imagine in any non-digital form (Escape from UNATCO) although some could really benefit from some instrumental work.

[StormFront]

But on the other side of the fence, it shouldn't sound like the orchestral score from "The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion" either. Some of Deus Ex's songs I simply can't imagine in any non-digital form (Escape from UNATCO) although some could really benefit from some instrumental work.

And why should you? I would not want to see anything but the most basic themes carried forward in the score as was done fo rthe opening title of IW (which I liked a lot). Reproducing the DX score for a game that was not DX is just stupid. There is no reason that DX3, a completely new game, could not have a full orchestral score. Why are people even discussing the iea of the music being "remade"? It's just a nonesense.

[gamer0004]

I've downloaded both the orchestre files and the original files, and some originals are better and some of the orchestre files are better. It depends on the music, for instance UNATCO HQ. UNATCO HQ is better in the original version, it just sounds better.
Some really great remakes are the piano versions of Sivak Drac: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=111104&songID=1697233

[WhatsHisFace]

And why should you? I would not want to see anything but the most basic themes carried forward in the score as was done fo rthe opening title of IW (which I liked a lot). Reproducing the DX score for a game that was not DX is just stupid. There is no reason that DX3, a completely new game, could not have a full orchestral score. Why are people even discussing the iea of the music being "remade"? It's just a nonesense.

Where did I say they they should just start remaking all the songs? I said I'd like some pivotal themes carried over, as happens with just about any series. You really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I simply said it wouldn't feel like Deus Ex if the entire soundtrack is orchestral.

[StormFront]

Where did I say they they should just start remaking all the songs? I said I'd like some pivotal themes carried over, as happens with just about any series. You really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I simply said it wouldn't feel like Deus Ex if the entire soundtrack is orchestral.

Fair comment,I must have missunderstood your post. I thought you were talking as if it was assumed that DX3 should have the same music as DX1 and you could not bare the thought of them orchestrating it. Got my wires crossed.

[Laputin Man]

Wow. I'm glad so many were fond of the soundtrack. StormFront, I do have to agree with you. Deus Ex had some good themes and a strong overall musical identity, but the repetition was indeed annoying. Back in those days we didn't pay as much attention to gameplay time against music length. It was more about "eh, two minutes should suffice for this entire level, as long as we have combat and exploration", but if exploration lasted a lot longer than combat, etc.. It's one of the things that taught me to work much more closely with designers on a regular basis as to a level's specific progressions and mechanics.

I also agree with the folks that think the music itself is outdated. It is! While nice for nostalgia, MODs are dead except in handheld, and we even used a live orchestra to record the main theme for the PS2 version.

I'm definitely flattered and honored that Eidos had a nod to the original theme in the trailer. I'm hoping they'll take the memorable bits from the original games (my personal favorite is the title from DX:IW, for example) and skillfully weave them into DX3, while giving the game a feel all it's own and introducing new themes. I'm excited to see what this game will unfold into.

Did any of you notice that this is friggin Alex Brandon who helped create the music from Deus Ex and Invisible War??? And no one here has even said so much as hello to him? Anyways big fan of the original music. And if you don't mind if I ask what are you up to now a days?

StromFront, I didn't really think that the music had a midi sound so much as a techno sound. I thought that given the some what futuristic setting, that the music was meant to have a digital or electronic/techno sound. I am not sure if that is what was intended though.

I agree with you that they should be left to do what they want with the music, though I'd like if they gave a wink and a nudge here and there to some of the previous games music. Maybe even something like the original theme song remastered or something.

[StormFront]

Did any of you notice that this is friggin Alex Brandon who helped create the music from Deus Ex and Invisible War??? And no one here has even said so much as hello to him? Anyways big fan of the original music. And if you don't mind if I ask what are you up to now a days?

StromFront, I didn't really think that the music had a midi sound so much as a techno sound. I thought that given the some what futuristic setting, that the music was meant to have a digital or electronic/techno sound. I am not sure if that is what was intended though.

I agree with you that they should be left to do what they want with the music, though I'd like if they gave a wink and a nudge here and there to some of the previous games music. Maybe even something like the original theme song remastered or something.

LOL. Good god, I completely failed to notice! :nut:

Good to see you on the forums Alex. I gather from your comments that you are not involved in anyway with this project then?

[Laputin Man]

LOL. Good god, I completely failed to notice! :nut:

Good to see you on the forums Alex. I gather from your comments that you are not involved in anyway with this project then?

:lmao: I know right? And he was speaking to you directly too. He may not be back after such a poor reception :P Probably thinks we are a big bunch of snobs, lol.

[Xcom]

Did any of you notice that this is friggin Alex Brandon who helped create the music from Deus Ex and Invisible War???

Damn it, no :eek:


Welcome to the forum, Alex. :) Forgive the lack of hospitality, khe khe.. :o

[ricwhite]

Most memorable soundtrack in a game I ever experienced. But if it can be done once, it can be done again. DX3 should be different, but I hope they put some good effort into it and make it memorable. By the way, Alex Brandon, who was a developer of the original score for DX1 is a poster on this forum.

[Lucifer]

The Best music from Deus Ex 1

[gamer0004]

Is it really him or is it an imposer? (could be...).

[Xcom]

He looks authentic enough to me.

[ricwhite]

He looks authentic enough to me.

I'm sure it's him. Go to his profile and then to his home page link.

[JSDonald]

Most memorable soundtrack in a game I ever experienced. But if it can be done once, it can be done again. DX3 should be different, but I hope they put some good effort into it and make it memorable. By the way, Alex Brandon, who was a developer of the original score for DX1 is a poster on this forum.

Really? Under what name?

[-=fox=-]

Really? Under what name?..."AlexBrandon"... http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?p=715111#post715111

[Dave W]

GOD NO

For the most part, Deus Ex had terrible music. There are some good tracks (UNATCO comes to mind), but the rest... Also, the mod technology made it sound outdated even when the first game premiered, nevermind now.

The main theme ranks high on my "worst game music of all time" list. I cannot help but wonder why some people seem to like it - I guess it's an association thing, nostalgia; it reminds us of Deus Ex, and since DX is awesome, the music eventually managed to develop positive connotations too.

Wow.

All the songs in it are brilliant, Alex did a fantastic job on it, just like he did with IW and any other game he's worked on (Unreal easily has one of the best soundtracks of any game). I don't know why you think the mod technology makes it sound outdated, though. And I like the Deus Ex theme song because it sounds awesome.

[pKp]

I love the DX1 music, but I don't trust myself on it, it's probably only a nostalgy thing.
And people, please, PLEASE, please stop thinking that DX3 must resemble DX1 in every way, Or Else. It's stupid, it's not constructive, and it's not gonna happen. Live with it. Or buy yourself UE3 and remake DX1 in it.

That's a good idea, actually...any takers ? ^^

[exmachinad]

Would be nice to see a remix, or a similar version, to some of the main tunes from DX.

Soundtrack is very important to a game and care a spirit with it, as some1 posted above.

Like the series Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, for instance. Ozar Midrashim is the music of the main character, Raziel.

And the main theme of the first DX is just awesome.

[Dave W]

I love the DX1 music, but I don't trust myself on it, it's probably only a nostalgy thing.
And people, please, PLEASE, please stop thinking that DX3 must resemble DX1 in every way, Or Else. It's stupid, it's not constructive, and it's not gonna happen. Live with it. Or buy yourself UE3 and remake DX1 in it.

That's a good idea, actually...any takers ? ^^

It's already happening with UT2004, no reason why it can't happen with UT3.

[JulianP]

StromFront, I didn't really think that the music had a midi sound so much as a techno sound. I thought that given the some what futuristic setting, that the music was meant to have a digital or electronic/techno sound. I am not sure if that is what was intended though.

This is what I've always thought as well. I think they should try to achieve the same feel with the DX3 soundtrack, but by some other means than using outdated technology. :D

And Alex, I'm a huge huge fan of your work. Great to see you on a forum like this :)

[gamer0004]

Yeah. The music he made is great and I'm still listening to it (even when I'm not playing the game).

[LuciusDeBeers]

I like the score in the original, but I think it would be more atmospheric if it were orchestrated. I'd like the score for DX3 to merge the synthesised tones of the original with some orchestrated parts to reflect the theme of the augmenting of organic and synthetic- both within the game's characters and the the world they inhabit.

[Necros]

Well the soundtrack from Deus Ex 1 was really cool (I like to listen to it even when i don't play DX1).
Me too, great music indeed. :cool: I hope some of the tunes will be reused as well as some sound effects, like in Thief 3. :)

[MagnumJoe]

For sure Deus Ex's score is the best!

From the dramatic point of view, and the pure musical point of view! IT should be studied in colleges!

But i'd rather that they keep the "Originality", the "Coherence", and the "Harmony" of the music with the events happening in the new game.

[CJ Denton]

I think reworking the music in much higher quality would be good, and theres no need to keep all, or even most of it. Its more about theme and atmosphere than anything else.

Who didnt feel an awesome buzz when the title music from DX1 chimed in over "What we are is but a stepping stone to what we can become?". If I was given to vulgar expressions I would say I nearly creamed myself.

[The Edge]

Yeah. The music he made is great and I'm still listening to it (even when I'm not playing the game).

Oh yes. The music is truly great. I play the soundtrack in my car audio STILL TODAY. And I think the DX Soundtrack is one of the best scores ever written for a game. I hope Mr. Brandon will be onboard the DX:3-ship !!!!

The Edge

[Unstoppable]

Wow. I'm glad so many were fond of the soundtrack. StormFront, I do have to agree with you. Deus Ex had some good themes and a strong overall musical identity, but the repetition was indeed annoying. Back in those days we didn't pay as much attention to gameplay time against music length. It was more about "eh, two minutes should suffice for this entire level, as long as we have combat and exploration", but if exploration lasted a lot longer than combat, etc.. It's one of the things that taught me to work much more closely with designers on a regular basis as to a level's specific progressions and mechanics.

I also agree with the folks that think the music itself is outdated. It is! While nice for nostalgia, MODs are dead except in handheld, and we even used a live orchestra to record the main theme for the PS2 version.

I'm definitely flattered and honored that Eidos had a nod to the original theme in the trailer. I'm hoping they'll take the memorable bits from the original games (my personal favorite is the title from DX:IW, for example) and skillfully weave them into DX3, while giving the game a feel all it's own and introducing new themes. I'm excited to see what this game will unfold into.

Many more people than you perhaps realize are very fond of the music you and your team came up with in DX 1 and DX: IW. If you could do some music for DX 3 that would be awesome.

I remember the first time I walked into Unatco HQ about 6 years ago. I heard the Unatco HQ soundtrack and I felt like I was in a live movie. It was unreal and felt totally immersive.

Without the soundtrack that DX 1 had, it would of only been half the game. I also enjoy very much the DX: IW title soundtrack.

Last but not least what about when I heard Jock yelling as he dropped me inside Area 51. Queue the Area 51 music and Jock's copter blows up. That was totally epic. All I wanted were two men. Bob Page and definately Walton Simmons as he mocked me.

[GundamXXX]

I love the soundtrack, its one of the only 3 I have ever played (others were Driver and Half-Life during Halloween - it rocks :P)
Dont know wether Im allowed to ask it but does anyone have the soundtrack for me? My game disc is in Australia and Im in Holland at the moment :P
(already had to be abit naughty!)

[van_HellSing]

http://www.deusex-machina.com/music/

[Inane Mythos]

No doubt we will get something quite different musically as the team is not using any version of the UEng which was the defining factor of the Deus Ex music

Um, the game engine has nothing to do with the music used these days. Maybe when the Atari first came out but not now. Any music can be used in any game, its the Atmosphere + Music + Setting factor which defines wether it's suitable or not.

[jordan_a]

According to the current trend, I don't think DX3's music will have the same "video game style" music DX1 had. It will be more elaborate (which doesn't mean better) just like what we've heard in IW. I don't know if I'm clear but to my mind musics in games tend to be more "serious" these days... :D

[JulianP]

I just hope that they won't go the epic-orchestral-soundtrack route. I'm sick and tired of hearing stuff like that. Leave that out of videogames, unless it reallyreally fits the overall concept (fantasy games, RTS games with huge battles etc, not Deus Ex). :/

[lbhearn]

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with a new (orchestral) score for the game. Many memorable movies themes are orchestral (star wars?), and that (as I see it) is what many of you seem to want in the game; a movies feel to it.

Not to say the game should sound like a John Williams score, just of the instrumentation. I do however think there should still be hints of the original style of music in the 3 game.
I am not sure how many of you played Diablo 1 and 2, but the 2nd game gave hints the original theme through out parts of the game.
Another aspect to be considered to please both sides of the field here would be to use an orchestral score and have maybe have synthesized chords to harmonized with the orchestra. It would give it both that ambient feel of the original game yet not still have something new and exciting to offer.

[Unstoppable]

I'd like a rock and roll remix of the Unatco HQ theme hehe.

[van_HellSing]

About orchestral stuff - I wouldn't want to hear a DX game scored by Jeremy Soule or something, but I wouldn't complain about, say, a string quartet accompanying an electronic score - think Requiem for a Dream.

[JulianP]

Yeah, that could work very well. Nothing wrong with acoustic instruments, but orchestral epicness is a whole different story.

[Mengioto]

oh my god, does anyone have the music sheets for the piano version of the soundtrack??? I really would like to learn how to play it!!!

It sounds quite easy to play (usually the case, but then when I try to play it I'm like HUH?) the left hand is, I think just an octave with sixteenth notes??(not sure about that, still am learning:))

I swear, if I were able to play it on the piano, I couldn't stop playing it! :p and Hi alex:)

[jordan_a]

DX2's musics disappointed me because they were too ambient, setting musics. You just forgot them. DX1's ones were more video game-like and well composed: you just remember them.

[rokstrombo]

I loved the music in both games. The music in the original Deus Ex was more thematic and memorable than Invisible War. But I have to say the ambient music of Invisible War definitely helped to set the mood of the maps.

I agree that the MODs are dated, but I thought they worked out pretty well in the original game given the futuristic theme. I liked the creepy organ sound in the title theme. It just seemed kind of like the music that people would come up with in that setting, given that they were too poor to buy real instruments ;).

Another game which I thought had an amazing soundtrack was the first Hitman game. That was quite thematic too (and involved separate exploration and action tracks). Like the original Deus Ex music, it really set the mood and context of the levels. The soundtracks for the later Hitman games however, were really extravagant and too similar to movie soundtracks, in my opinion. I don't like it when composers make games sound like movies.

What I would like to hear in the next Deus Ex game is a combination of the more thematic tracks in Deus Ex with the ambient tracks in Invisible War. Personally speaking I tend to associate memories with music, so I would love a soundtrack that I can remember! But I agree with the views that a 2 minute anthem repeated continually in a 2 hour level has the potential to get annoying. It actually didn't get annoying in Deus Ex or Hitman, but these were really good anthems (and broken up by action and dialogue)!

[WildcatPhoenix]

Personally I loved the electronic feel of the original soundtrack. Three tracks in particular stood out to me:

1. UNATCO HQ- Like a previous poster said, the music here pulled me out of my chair and put me right into J.C.'s shoes. I felt like I was in the middle of a great sci-fi movie, and isn't that kind of immersion the entire point of video gaming?

2. Wan Chai Market- I love how Alex integrated traditional Chinese meter and instrumentation with the electronica of the DX soundtrack. Hearing this music brings me right back to the first time I wandered around Wan Chai, marvelling at all of the NPCs and scrambling for a crowbar to beat the **** out of Louis Pan.

3. Chateau DuClare- My absolute favorite track. Roaming through an empty chateau with only Nicolette and the dark, ominous voice of Icarus to keep me company, just a beautiful moment. I still play this track sometimes when I go to sleep at night.

Here's hoping DX3 does aim for a memorable soundtrack. I personally didn't hate IW's music (about the only thing I didn't hate from that game), but all I remember is the theme...which was quite nice.

-Wildcat

[Gary_Savage]

1. UNATCO HQ- Like a previous poster said, the music here pulled me out of my chair and put me right into J.C.'s shoes. I felt like I was in the middle of a great sci-fi movie, and isn't that kind of immersion the entire point of video gaming?
-Wildcat

I UNATCO HQ music right after the prison-break mission does this for me.

The Wan Chai Market music is my all time favorite, though; and the coolest music, for me, was that short tune that plays during firefights in NYC, the first time you get there. I remember I used to get into firefights just to pause the game and enjoy the music.

[rhalibus]

Fantastic job on the music! The DX soundtrack (which comes with the GOTY version of DX) is the only game soundtrack on permanent rotation on my system. I listen to it when I'm writing or storyboarding (I'm a filmmaker).

My favorite tracks are Liberty Island, The Synapse (or "Hong Kong Streets"; the theme everybody remembers), Majestic 12 Labs, Return to NYC, and especially the creepy Area 51 music. It's impossible to hear Liberty Island's "B E, F# B" note progression without recalling the spirit of Deus Ex...

I also appreciate Dan Gardopee's contributions for Naval Base and Vandenburg--very ambient and subtle.

The only complaint to the DX soundtrack is that it only includes the instrumental version of the Main Title--I actually like the original, with its funky alternate middle theme.

If you ever need a few thousand DX fans to petition for you to be hired again for DX3, I'm sure that won't be a problem...:)

Follow up note: If you listen to Alex's album "Era's End" on his website, you'll swear it has a similar mood as his DX work. As far as I'm concerned, Alex is the music of Deus Ex.

[lightbringerrr]

DX1 = Reeves Gabriels( Bowie's guitarist for you un-initiated folk ); great music for a game, and definatley NOT an afterthought.

DX2 = KIDNEY THIEVES! "My God Paints A Pretty Pict-cha'"! Indeed.

DX3 = I'm voting for a one-time partnership between Skinny Puppy and Dirty Rig; THAT would seal the deal.

[lightbringerrr]

...Just for ****s and giggles; I want at least ONE bar scene with a NG Resonance-style Holoprojector Jukebox, that has Tom Jones singing "She's A Lady"!!!!

[Mengioto]

LOL

oh I love the music inside the NYCbar and the Paris Cathedral music, with the organ :)

I feel like playing the game again!! But I already know what I'd do in certain places, so it kinda spoils it.. no surprises anymore (bumpin into a suit) and already knowing what certain patterns are and stuff, like where I'm supposed to go.

[Azrepheal]

Get up
Get on up
Get up
Get on up
Get up
Stay on the scene
Get up
Like Deus Ex Machina

:whistle: :whistle:

[lightbringerrr]

LOL

oh I love the music inside the NYCbar and the Paris Cathedral music, with the organ :)

I feel like playing the game again!! But I already know what I'd do in certain places, so it kinda spoils it.. no surprises anymore (bumpin into a suit) and already knowing what certain patterns are and stuff, like where I'm supposed to go.

You sir, are due for a round of Lightbringerrr's patented Deus Ex: Bloodbath!
As I posted at "DX1 Reveiew":

"The rules are simple; go in to Godmode and shoot EVERYTHING THAT MOVES!
It's hilarious, and the conversation cutscenes, with anyone and EVERYONE riddling you with ammo as you have a nice, calm conversation with whomever, will leave you in a fit of pants-pissing laughter"!

Now Boot-Up, and get to killing!!!

[Vestu]

I simply LOVED DX background music. In fact, it's the only game of which soundtrack really struck me after the nes-era lol.

I still occasionally have some DX tunes playing on my ipod. Especially UNATCO HQ, all NYC, Liberty Island and that seemingly controversial, uplifting HK theme.

DX music wasn't TOO ambient but still laying low enough on the background not to annoy or distract you. I think it's impossible to have an equal audio experience on any game any more :p but I hope they'll come up with something DX1ish on DX3.

[Edx]

I simply LOVED DX background music. In fact, it's the only game of which soundtrack really struck me after the nes-era lol.

I still occasionally have some DX tunes playing on my ipod. Especially UNATCO HQ, all NYC, Liberty Island and that seemingly controversial, uplifting HK theme.

DX music wasn't TOO ambient but still laying low enough on the background not to annoy or distract you. I think it's impossible to have an equal audio experience on any game any more :p but I hope they'll come up with something DX1ish on DX3.

What confuses me was why Invisible War music is so unimpressive compared to DX1. I guess they didnt want any melodic stuff at all, which si a shame because we know Alex Brandon can do it so well. I loved the main titles with the vocal section and its annoying we dont have any reprise or any continuation of that. I also missed some of the synth elements that obviously the tracker format actually helped, but as he didnt use it, some of the sounds just sounded bad rather that interesting and unique. But look at the intro FMV to DX Invisible War, I wanted to hear music like that. I liked that oboe playing the main theme! Shame.

[mouse]

Mates, please don't mix your grudge against DX2 with the actual quality of the music. I have to 'confess' that I like the DX2 ambient more than the of the first game. Much depends on personal taste, yes, but I think that the DX1 music is often to intrusive and misplaced. The worst part was in HK Wan Chai, where I had to turn it of lest I go mad... The music in the Lucky Money was Ok, although I don't like techno

[Edx]

Mates, please don't mix your grudge against DX2 with the actual quality of the music.
Actually I never played DX2! I didnt have a pixel shader card capable of playing it. I really should get a better card, Im sure I would like it a lot more than some people here have made out.

I have to 'confess' that I like the DX2 ambient more than the of the first game. Much depends on personal taste, yes, but I think that the DX1 music is often to intrusive and misplaced.

Some of it was yes, sure, going into some kind of dystopian rave when you were fighting was cool ..sometimes and maybe at the beginning, but I wish it didnt after a while. I was a bit annoying having the music start just because an ememy spotted me, it also alerted me to the fact that they had when otherwise they would have caught me off guard when I didnt notice.

The worst part was in HK Wan Chai, where I had to turn it of lest I go mad...
hehe, i loved the HK music!! :D

My main problem with Invisible War music is that its so unmemorable, Im not really that impressed with the ambient fx and at one point I hear Korg Trition pizzicato strings (which sucks). The thing about Alex' MODS is the sounds sounded more electronic and so worked, rather than just sounding fake. The oboe sound is bad in DX1, but it didnt sound like an oboe, it sounded like some kind of synth and so was cool. I think alex should have used a mix of tracker and normal MIDI sequencing.

The only standout tracks are the main titles with that gorgeous vocal part in the middle which, like I said, is never reprised (or at least not on the tracks I found on the internet), the intro cinematic music and the end credits. I lstened to all of them yesterday really trying to find one I really liked. Its not like I dislike them, they just dont do anything to me.

EDIT: Im currently making a sample library cd Im calling "Dystopia" which has lots of sound effects (musical and foley). I am heavily inspired by Deus Ex, and listen to DX 1 (and the main titles and end credits from IW) music in the background when I am creating the art for it. I just keep thinking, "how would this sound work in the DX world?". :p

Ed

[Gary_Savage]

I was a bit annoying having the music start just because an ememy spotted me, it also alerted me to the fact that they had when otherwise they would have caught me off guard when I didnt notice.


I often end up using the change in music, from ambient to combat music, to know when the enemies have spotted me, or are still looking for me, and when they have stopped. This sort of thing spoils the gaming experience for a game like DX, where your skills (I'm not talking about the skill point system, which definitely a must) and your cunning should get you through the day (or night). I would suggest (for DX3) not starting the combat music until after you see an enemy NPC/camera/bot/turret who is looking at you, or is looking for you. As for stopping the combat music, I am not sure. I don't want it to be an indicator for when the enemy is no longer looking. Perhaps the combat music should stop a set few seconds after the following conditions are met:
-you do not see any enemies looking at you.
-you do not see any enemies looking for you.
-you do not see guns being fired, or bullets/tracers flying.
-you do not see objects being hit by bullets.
-you do not hear gun firing.
-enemy alarms have stopped (I am not too sure on this one).

EDIT: The ambient music could start a set few seconds after the combat music stops (a suspenseful period without music, with the uncertainty of not knowing whether the coast is clear). This is because I'm not sure I will like it if the music keeps changing every few seconds, from my leaning and peaking.


hehe, i loved the HK music!! :D

This is my favourite music, though I sometimes get a little annoyed, since I listen to it very often.

[Edx]

I often end up using the change in music, from ambient to combat music, to know when the enemies have spotted me, or are still looking for me, and when they have stopped. This sort of thing spoils the gaming experience for a game like DX, where your skills (I'm not talking about the skill point system, which definitely a must) and your cunning should get you through the day (or night). I would suggest (for DX3) not starting the combat music until after you see an enemy

I havent played Halo 3, but I hear their dynamic music is very sophisticated. Can anyone report how well that works, or how it works and what its problems are (if any)?

You are right though, its not good to let people know an enemy has seen them by switching the music espcially in a game like DX.

[DaRkJaWs]

I also loved Brandon's music, but there are other options as well if Alex can't spend the time to work for the new Deus Ex. Steve Foxon, the guy who created the music for Deus Ex Zodiac and Deus Ex Redsun2020, also has an immense amount of skill. I particularly liked his Zodiac music. This is info just so mods are aware of him. Here's his website:

http://www.sfsounds.co.uk/

[pauldenton]

Did any of you notice that this is friggin Alex Brandon who helped create the music from Deus Ex and Invisible War??? And no one here has even said so much as hello to him? Anyways big fan of the original music. And if you don't mind if I ask what are you up to now a days?

StromFront, I didn't really think that the music had a midi sound so much as a techno sound. I thought that given the some what futuristic setting, that the music was meant to have a digital or electronic/techno sound. I am not sure if that is what was intended though.

I agree with you that they should be left to do what they want with the music, though I'd like if they gave a wink and a nudge here and there to some of the previous games music. Maybe even something like the original theme song remastered or something.

Laputinman i feel you have said all that needed to be said.

also Alex Brandon, welcome and thank you.

[jordan_a]

One guy I LOVE: Grant Kirkhope

# Star Fox Adventures (2002)
# Banjo-Tooie (2000)
# Perfect Dark (2000)
# Banjo-Kazooie (1998)
# GoldenEye 007 (1997)

:nut:

[Wgibbsw]

Wow yeah hello I don't know if you're responsible for it but the UNATCO theme was brilliant :rolleyes:

[AlexBrandon]

I do have to set the record straight, it was Michiel Van Den Bos who wrote UNATCO's theme. And I loved it plenty. Very "Escape from New York", which for all it's spartan composition is still one of my favorite soundtracks.

[Scadvid]

I do have to set the record straight, it was Michiel Van Den Bos who wrote UNATCO's theme. And I loved it plenty. Very "Escape from New York", which for all it's spartan composition is still one of my favorite soundtracks.

S-m-a-l-l world, as I was just thinking about you today after spending 6hrs going through ALL those tracks, trying to separate the main theme from the action and ambient ones.

God, I hope you're working on the Deus Ex 3 soundtrack. Deus Ex 3 may not be a worthy successor, but at least the music would be good! :D

Got to give credit to Eidos on their game soundtracks. Picked up a Commandos game and it has some good diddies in there, too.

[Larington]

Glad to see some of the rampant fanboyism (Sorry folks, but there is quite a bit of gushing in this thread) didn't scare you off. Heres hoping you get to contribute to the music for DX3, certainly your opening post demonstrated you learned a lot from working on the original (With regards to how a 2/3 minute ambient piece isn't necessarily long enough in a game like DX1 specifically).

[Scadvid]

Glad to see some of the rampant fanboyism (Sorry folks, but there is quite a bit of gushing in this thread) didn't scare you off. Heres hoping you get to contribute to the music for DX3, certainly your opening post demonstrated you learned a lot from working on the original (With regards to how a 2/3 minute ambient piece isn't necessarily long enough in a game like DX1 specifically).

It's not "gushing". I don't play the game as much as I listen to the music!

Wanted to separate the tracks to get more, since the GOTY disk doesn't include them all (and some of the action themes are memorable - OceanLab action themes come to mind).

But going back to read the other posts there's one thing more I need to add for Alex: longer game times = the same music in DX2. Such themes aren't remembered -- and frankly only one part of one song from that entire game did I like (not even the Enya like title was good, IMO). No jingle to catch the ear or the heart.

DX1 had jingles similiar to remembering a Gilbert and Sullivan opera, word by word -- and the music fit the game to a "T", as it's a cyberpunk and the computer techno music was spot on. DX2 was an orchestral rendition (and it's hard as a violinist to admit it, but sometimes strings just don't fit!).

[Larington]

Heh, I wasn't referring to that, that simply comes under the mandate of organising your music collection and I've done that for several game soundtracks, not just the Deus Ex 1 music (Yeah, I'm sorta guilty of that myself), thats not gushing in my mind.

[jordan_a]

I just hope we'll be given a true video game sountrack and not some mere athmospheric/ambient music. :rolleyes:

[Vasarto]

Fantastic job on the music! The DX soundtrack (which comes with the GOTY version of DX) is the only game soundtrack on permanent rotation on my system. I listen to it when I'm writing or storyboarding (I'm a filmmaker).

My favorite tracks are Liberty Island, The Synapse (or "Hong Kong Streets"; the theme everybody remembers), Majestic 12 Labs, Return to NYC, and especially the creepy Area 51 music. It's impossible to hear Liberty Island's "B E, F# B" note progression without recalling the spirit of Deus Ex...

I also appreciate Dan Gardopee's contributions for Naval Base and Vandenburg--very ambient and subtle.

The only complaint to the DX soundtrack is that it only includes the instrumental version of the Main Title--I actually like the original, with its funky alternate middle theme.

If you ever need a few thousand DX fans to petition for you to be hired again for DX3, I'm sure that won't be a problem...:)

Follow up note: If you listen to Alex's album "Era's End" on his website, you'll swear it has a similar mood as his DX work. As far as I'm concerned, Alex is the music of Deus Ex.


I liked all of those too but the Newyork Music and the Canal Music in Hong Kong was really great as well. Pretty much all the music untill after paris is awsome..than it's just avarage.

[Larington]

Personally my favourite is easily the music from the sequences in France/Paris, those tracks carried so much of the mood that was reflected in the scenes that those levels wouldn't have been half as good without it.

[Vasarto]

As long as the Newyork music is simular to that of in DX1 and they use the same beginning Theam song as in Number 1 than Im ok....god I love that
beginning theam song.

[puzl]

It's funny, cos the first time I played DX all those years back, I actually completed it with the music disabled! Absolute madness now that I look back and realise just how symbiotic the music is with the gameplay and story. Indeed, half the reason DX holds such prestige in my memory is because of how brilliant the overall soundtrack was. Just like I remember the first time I entered UNATCO HQ every time I hear the music for that stage, it also works in reverse - I can't think of UNATCO without humming the melody and whistling the pads of the music. Now multiply this by almost every piece of music in the game (a lot!) and it is no wonder that this game and it's soundtrack has a warm place in our hearts.

I'm looking forward to DX3, but thank god i'm not the one developing or making music for it! They have a lot of responsibility on their shoulders :D

[Vasarto]

Has anyone else been listining to the Deus Ex 1 music lately? I dunno why but All this talk about Deus Ex 1 really wants me to play that game. That and listin to the full soundtrack of Deus Ex 1 on my Zune.

[Gary_Savage]

I'm sure a few people are, if not a lot. Someone mentioned listening to it in the car. I, myself, listen to it in my lab: it makes me feel like Tracer Tong. The Synapse is my multipurpose piece (I use it during experiments, as well as when venting out my frustrations from failed experiments -- yeah, I am a bit like Bob Page, too :D). Other than that, I listen to the main theme, and the pieces that incorporate the starting tune of the theme. Besides that, I like the combat music of NYC (first time you get there), and Area 51 Bunker combat music.

[Vasarto]

I'm sure a few people are, if not a lot. Someone mentioned listening to it in the car. I, myself, listen to it in my lab: it makes me feel like Tracer Tong. The Synapse is my multipurpose piece (I use it during experiments, as well as when venting out my frustrations from failed experiments -- yeah, I am a bit like Bob Page, too :D). Other than that, I listen to the main theme, and the pieces that incorporate the starting tune of the theme. Besides that, I like the combat music of NYC (first time you get there), and Area 51 Bunker combat music.


Your lab? Are you a sceintist or something? If so thats prett cool!

[Gary_Savage]

I'm a graduate student, if that answers your question.

[Vasarto]

I'm a graduate student, if that answers your question.

Oh thats cool. Anyway I best not strey from the topic.

The ambiant music in Deus Ex 1 was speical. I hope they keep the same feel
as they did in the first game but I don't know if they can repeat it again. At least not to the same level of degree as they did for DX1. It's pretty hard to
re-create perfection if you ask me.

[jordan_a]

God, I hope you're working on the Deus Ex 3 soundtrack.I hope too.

But I understand M.Brandon composed the music of DX:IW and it was very different from the first DX which I prefered because it was punchy and memorable, a true video game soundtrack. IW's music was too movie like, slow, discreet, ambient.

Why did the instructions about the soundtrack changed so much between the first DX and the second?:mad2:

The first time I visited NY back in 2002 or something and found myself in Battery Park I had my enormous CD player, launched the adequate track and enjoyed.

But on IW except for Trier and Seattle - City Hub & Emerald Suites it's... average.

[pHdeus]

Alexander Brandon's music is part of the DNA of Deus EX, and perhaps JC Denton himself. I do not believe that the two can be separated and I would very much hope our friends in Montreal know this also. It might not have been Alexander Brandon's requested legacy, but I can think of much worse.

And with Deus EX 3 there is another canvas on which to create another superb artistic balance between game and music, which is one of the crowning achievements of the series.

Alexander Brandon is Deus EX and vice versa. They have the same musical DNA.

[Larington]

As for the apparent difficulty with which folks have for remembering the soundtrack in IW, my conclusion now is that whilst DE:IW had melodic elements in pretty much all the different soundtrack elements, where the score let itself down was that all the melodic sections are heavily underplayed, whereas with DX1 its the reverse.

[jcp28]

Whoever Eidos Montreal hires to do the soundtrack, they better make it more ambient like DX 1. I loved the track that plays on the start-up screen and the Battery Park and Paris soundtracks in particular fit the mood of the levels that they played on.

[HouseOfPain]

Swings and roundabouts though. While I liked the music and still get goosebumps when I hear the main theme like any DX fan, I often wished it would shut the hell up. Having a continuous jungle track that just played along merrily was deeply annoying (esp. Hong Kong! GAH!). Hopefully something more subtle and refined can be implemented with a newer engine (though I still wish the cheap skates had shelled for UEng 3...)

BLAH! Unreal engine! No way! Have you seen the loading times for the textures? It's abysmal.

[Dertalix]

Having just finished IW, I must say that I really love its soundtrack. I think it fits IW nicely.

[lightbringerrr]

Having just finished IW, I must say that I really love its soundtrack. I think it fits IW nicely.


AAAAAMEN!

And by God, I'll repeat it again;
"My God Paints a Pretty Pict-cha"!!!

[Maximus]

I would love to go to some markets in Wan Chai in Hong Kong and play the Synapse. That would be insanely awesome, a life goal if ever i've had one :)

[lightbringerrr]

I want a balance between the two extremes.

In the first game, we had ambient music for every mission. The DOWNSIDE was that it became, well; ambient. When the action started, I'll never forget hearing that SAME damned " blah-blah-blah-blah, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH(louder)theme-music!
Shoot an enemy from the rooftop in NYC?
"blah-blah-blah-blah, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH"!!! ANNOYING! Yet, helpful to know when you've aroused attention and need to hide and/or duck.

The APPLICATION of the music has to evolve. I WANT the ambient aspect, but it can not just sit there until the action kicks in. NOR, can it give hints as to what you may or may not have just discovered in your current mission.
No "I just found the goblet, so the music now changes" crap, right?

I once again call for a collaboration between Skinny Puppy and Dirty Rig.

Ideally, I'd like to see moments when both Skinny Puppy and Dirty Rig kind of cross lines for the scene at hand, but according to the mission or place; one group favors the other.
And for the selected times when things must get down and dirty, it's a full-on meeting of the minds between the two.
And a guest appearance between Ogre and Kory Klarke!!!

[lightbringerrr]

I'm a graduate student, if that answers your question.

Soon, you will be 'Black Choppered' to S-4!

[Vodka0850]

The music was pretty cool, but I played DE 1 with the music off too (unless I was in one of the clubs, it was just be too weird to have people dancing to nothing at all, lol).

The cool thing about the DE1 soundtrack, was that the game was playable without it. It sort of made the game a bit creepier (both the Half-Life games did this, and I think it worked pretty good) and more dark IMO. And when the music was on it did definitely contribute to the game. But no music in DE:IW didn't really fit right with me for some reason, I don't know why, and the music was not even that good at all. The reason might be that DE1 was just so good at creating that dark futuristic world that it really didn't need any help from the music, and that the music just topped everything off, whereas DE:IW I thought was just very confusing and I found myself half-way not caring about what was going on. IW sort of felt more like a homework assignment really, like something I had to do, not something I wanted to do.

[rhalibus]

I always thought it was weird as well that if you lowered the music then the night clubs would sound like soft jazz venues--I hope Eidos Montreal understands for DX3 that any night club music should be part of the sound effects, not the sound track...

I actually enjoyed much of the DX:IW soundtrack as well; some of the ambient music (esp. during the Antarctica levels) was very effective. But there's a reason I've got Alex Brandon's DX1 soundtrack on permanent rotation on my stereo--It takes me back to the Deus Ex universe every time I hear it.

And also the soundtrack CD came with the DX:GOTY edition. But still...:)

[Mr. K]

I always thought it was weird as well that if you lowered the music then the night clubs would sound like soft jazz venues--I hope Eidos Montreal understands for DX3 that any night club music should be part of the sound effects, not the sound track...

I actually enjoyed much of the DX:IW soundtrack as well; some of the ambient music (esp. during the Antarctica levels) was very effective. But there's a reason I've got Alex Brandon's DX1 soundtrack on permanent rotation on my stereo--It takes me back to the Deus Ex universe every time I hear it.

And also the soundtrack CD came with the DX:GOTY edition. But still...:)

Amen. I'm listening to the soundtrack again right now- it makes me want to load up DX 1 and play it again right now! :D

[Larington]

Yeah, tried loading up DX1 on this laptop since in the weekends I'm at parents house and can't access my main computer without taking a long train journey. Sadly, DX1 doesn't like my integrated graphics solution, which is a bit of a nuisance - Wish I'd been a bit more careful about choosing the laptop back in october. The game either runs over fast or over slow, usually over fast and skips frames in the process, oh well.

Doesn't have problems with Anachronox though (One of my other personal favourites) so I'm playing through that instead.

[sea]

It's funny that people talk about ambient music. Deus Ex has a bit of it, but honestly most of it is fairly upbeat electro-pop-sounding music... not that I don't like it, but it all has a very strong sense of melody and honestly a lot of it is pretty cheesy (the Hong Kong theme in particular is rather hilarious). Meanwhile, some of the music, like at the Statue at the beginning of the game, is excellent.

What I think is clear is that the following things need to be preserved for Deus Ex 3: Dynamics. Ambience is nice, but music needs to pick up in combat and then fade out again afterwards. Music that changes when the player gets involved in significant conversations can work very nicely as well, like at UNATCO early in the first game.
Strong melody. Despite its cheesiness, the best part of Deus Ex's music is how memorable it is. This is largely accomplished through very simple and fairly repetitive yet catchy hooks. Probably part of the reason why it winds up sounding cheesy as well, but it's nonetheless important. Pretty much all of this should be minor-key, as well.
Almost entirely synth-driven and free of percussion. This should be self-explanatory, but Deus Ex's music is so distinctive largely because of the synths it uses, as opposed to contemporary and classical instruments. No rousing orchestral scores, please, but no crappy electro-metal like Nine Inch Nails or Sonic Youth either.Stick by these tenets, and I think you're headed down the right track.

[Pois0n]

I didn't realise how big a part the music played in Deus Ex until I first heard that signature tune in the second half of the trailer. That was quite a fanboy moment. ;)

[jcp28]

Yeah, I think including metal would not fit the scope of the game, unless you happen to be escaping from somewhere in a vehicle and you're being chased by tons of bad guys. But if something like that is possible, it should be a choice, not something you're forced to do. Besides, I think techno-metal has a place in this game.

[J.CDenton]

Putting metal or techno could only fits in places like nightboxes or bar.

I hope that the music composer will do a great job about that music. I want to listen again to a soundtrack equaling DX1's one.

[sea]

I love metal; I'm mostly a fan of black, death, folk, Viking, and progressive. I also tend to enjoy some ambient electronic music, like the stuff produced by Ulver. However, I can't help but cringe when some cheap drum machine and chugging power chords force their way into my RPG. It suits some games, certainly (a few racing games work well with metal-type stuff), but not all of them. Just because I like a particular genre of music doesn't mean I want to hear it all the time, especially in a completely ridiculous context. In the case of Deus Ex, that junk has no place in the game, except perhaps as noise in the world itself. As background music? Hell no.

[JaYp146]

PLEASE re-hire Alexander Brandon to compose the soundtrack for Deus Ex 3.

[Larington]

Yeah, I would love to see how hes progressed since the DX1 soundtrack in respect to what he'd do differently now (Aside from making each track longer to account for the loop effect)...

[redmanc]

Id like to hear a remix of the first DX game music, not the same, but along the same lines. When I think of Deus ex I think of that startup music and in game ambience. Would be a good idea to make that a constant through all the DX games. What? IW? not heard of it mate....

[GioChrono]

I have to say that I am playing Deus Ex 1 soundtrack right now as I work. I play the Invisible War soundtrack more often though but that is because it doesn't have any combat tracks so it plays well in the background while I'm sketching or rendering and doesn't break my mood.

I think I have probably played the IW soundtrack more than any other...ever.
It has been a real inspiration while creating my webcomic The Talos Project (http://www.thetalosproject.com) and really get's me in the mood (for creative work that is).

Cheers to Alex B for his contribution to IMO two great games. I enjoyed both games very much although the original far more because of its greater depth and because we could keep our own notes in the game which made you feel like you were having to actually work to solve things more...anyway, that's for another thread.

I hope the new soundtrack does the franchise justice and I will want to download it as soon as it's available anyway. Wouldn't mind a Bladerunner Trilogy style soundtrack with a remastered originals and the new music plus some extra inspired by type of work. Although that depends possibly if A Brandon is involved in the end or not. Too many unknowns at this point.

Gio

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee235/Giochrono/Talos_anim_Banner.gif (http://www.thetalosproject.com)

[MyImmortal]

PLEASE re-hire Alexander Brandon to compose the soundtrack for Deus Ex 3.

Yes, I raise my hand to vote for this too. :)

[J.CDenton]

DX2 was more for atmosphere than for real action. Some of the music worked well but I truly would like another DX1 like soundtrack.

[jordan_a]

I say be honest with what you're doing: a video game needs a true video game soundtrack.

Loved the Uncharted (PS3) soundtrack by Greg Edmonson, it really is a brilliant job.

[MyImmortal]

Suggested music/composer?
Yeah, well if it isn't to be Alex Brandon again, I think someone like Rhys Fulber (Conjure One) could do an excellent job. :cool:

[MyImmortal]

I say be honest with what you're doing: a video game needs a true video game soundtrack.

Loved the Uncharted (PS3) soundtrack by Greg Edmonson, it really is a brilliant job.

OMG, yes, Greg Edmonson is a fabulous composer! :cool:

[serene_chaos]

correct me if i'm mistaken, but didn't Alexander Brandon appear on this forum a while ago?
Anyone remember what he said then? I don't.

[jcp28]

I read back through this thread some time ago. He said something to the extent that he wouldn't be able to make music in the same way he did for DX1, because the industry standards for making music for video games have changed. Something abouth the synths involved. Like you, I'm too lazy to look back.

And he also said that he wouldn't be working on DX 3.

[gamer0004]

Wow. I'm glad so many were fond of the soundtrack. StormFront, I do have to agree with you. Deus Ex had some good themes and a strong overall musical identity, but the repetition was indeed annoying. Back in those days we didn't pay as much attention to gameplay time against music length. It was more about "eh, two minutes should suffice for this entire level, as long as we have combat and exploration", but if exploration lasted a lot longer than combat, etc.. It's one of the things that taught me to work much more closely with designers on a regular basis as to a level's specific progressions and mechanics.

I also agree with the folks that think the music itself is outdated. It is! While nice for nostalgia, MODs are dead except in handheld, and we even used a live orchestra to record the main theme for the PS2 version.

I'm definitely flattered and honored that Eidos had a nod to the original theme in the trailer. I'm hoping they'll take the memorable bits from the original games (my personal favorite is the title from DX:IW, for example) and skillfully weave them into DX3, while giving the game a feel all it's own and introducing new themes. I'm excited to see what this game will unfold into.

Here's what he said.

[MyImmortal]

Thank you for finding Alex's original reply. :)

I agree that the game should retain elements of the original music but with a more updated sound. :cool:

***

As Alex won't be back to do DX3, I would like to suggest the composer Jesper Kyd.
http://www.jesperkyd.com/

He has already created music for games including Assassins Creed and Hitman.
Eidos are familiar with his work. :)

I think Jesper is FANTASTIC! Very versatile in his style... I hope Eidos use him again.

[sea]

I fully support Jesper Kyd for Deus Ex 3. He's a brilliant composer and has created some very original and memorable music, specifically in the Hitman series. He is definitely familiar with ambient soundscapes. So long as he can keep the feel of Deus Ex intact, I am all for him.

[MyImmortal]

Cool!!!!

That's two votes for JESPER KYD.... he's the man! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Eidos, please take note. :p

[gamer0004]

Why can't we have Alex back :(

[jcp28]

He said in another post that he would not be working on the DX series again. I'm not sure why.

I'll try to check this Jesper guy out. Hitman did have some damn good music.

[MyImmortal]

^
Yeah, Kyd's website has a good selection of music samples on first page.
He's definitely a composer worthy of consideration for DX3. :cool:

[serene_chaos]

Kyd definitely has versatility enough to adapt his music to suit the game. The Assassins Creed and Hitman soundtracks are completely different, but good nevertheless, and appropriate to their games. I'm sure if he were to work on DX3 the score would be equally suitable and awesome. Still, though, I think my vote goes to Amon Tobin. The Chaos Theory soundtrack is one of my favourite albums of all time, and again, differs greatly from the rest of Tobin's music.

[MyImmortal]

Kyd definitely has versatility enough to adapt his music to suit the game. The Assassins Creed and Hitman soundtracks are completely different, but good nevertheless, and appropriate to their games. I'm sure if he were to work on DX3 the score would be equally suitable and awesome. Still, though, I think my vote goes to Amon Tobin. The Chaos Theory soundtrack is one of my favourite albums of all time, and again, differs greatly from the rest of Tobin's music.

I agree, Tobin has also produced some nice work. :cool:

My vote goes to Jesper Kyd though... just a personal music choice. :)

[Scadvid]

Alexander Brandon's music is part of the DNA of Deus EX, and perhaps JC Denton himself. I do not believe that the two can be separated and I would very much hope our friends in Montreal know this also. It might not have been Alexander Brandon's requested legacy, but I can think of much worse.

And with Deus EX 3 there is another canvas on which to create another superb artistic balance between game and music, which is one of the crowning achievements of the series.

Alexander Brandon is Deus EX and vice versa. They have the same musical DNA.

Thinking about it, you're right. Can't think of DX without it's music, and vice versa. It maybe cheesy today, much like early synth pop of the 80s sounds now, but it's part of the age. DX3 without the techno/synth/computer generated music just wouldn't be the DX world.

I browse around the F.E.A.R. SDK and that ambient music is mostly generic studio made sounds. But some themes for certain levels also have that brand like affect (so much so, when reused in the XP packs, it destroyed the feel. As this song went to that level and it's memories [yes, memories], not THIS level). One for the Admin level was appropriately computer like in sound (creepier than hell, too), you could hear the modem chirp as a back beat even. It had a God-in-the-machine-sound, just as I envisioned it would be in DX (it's a game I got closer to DX in, as I saw what I missed and what I wished would be in a game. Before it didn't really matter, as what games I played weren't even in the genre. But F.E.A.R. is closer, and it hardened my views about DX in the end, as it was so theme based. What's missing, what's not, what could be).

So DX3 really needs that computer like feel for a sound track. Understand Brandon doesn't want to return to the tracking days, but I he's talented enough to do the same with studio tools of today. Cheesier rifts the better. ;)

[TrickyVein]

Jazz Jackrabbit anyone? Now Alexander Brandon did some great music for that game - Yeah!

[Mr. K]

I wouldn't mind having Marty O'Donnell- the guy behind the 3 Halo soundtracks- do DX 3.

[gamer0004]

Jazz Jackrabbit anyone? Now Alexander Brandon did some great music for that game - Yeah!

Did Alexander do that one too? I loved that music!

[pHdeus]

This is a question for the people who have an in to what Eidos is doing.

Though various conversations in this forum, it has been revealed that Alexander Brandon is not working on Deus Ex 3. Given his brilliance with Deus EX and Deus EX IW, I am concerned whether Eidos has found an excellent choice for music director and composer for Deus EX. 3 (Naturally, this makes the assumption that Deus EX 3 will have continuous ambient music like its predecessors.)

Can Rene (sorry no accent) or anyone comment on what is going on musically with Deus EX 3? :o

[van_HellSing]

Eidos has a history of damn fine soundtracks in games, done by great musicians. Jesper Kyd on the Hitman series, Eric Brosius on Thief, Kurt Harland on Legacy of Kain... I don't think any Eidos game I ever played disappointed me musically.

(Even DX ;). I'm first to admit most of the DX1 music isn't really my taste, but the tracks I do like, I like immensely: UNATCO, NYC streets...)

[Necros]

I agree that the game should retain elements of the original music but with a more updated sound. :cool:
Yeah, I also hope we'll here some of the original songs in some form again in DX3. :)
As Alex won't be back to do DX3, I would like to suggest the composer Jesper Kyd.
http://www.jesperkyd.com/
I agree, he is great but there are other very good composers too. Like Cris Velasco who did the soundtrack for some really great games, last time he created the music for Clive Barker's Jericho, I loved it. Especially one of them, it creeps the hell out of me. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNnihvviv4s

@van_HellSing: And some of them were recorded in Hungary. :cool:

[pHdeus]

Thanks. I appreciate the education from people far more knowledgable than me. Also, MissDenton and I have held similar views ih this forum, so I am glad to see her views included here as well.

I must admit that I still have the bias that Alexander Brandon's muisc is part of the chemistry or the DNA of the series, and that changing that is not without risk.

:o

[Bluey71]

I must admit that I still have the bias that Alexander Brandon's muisc is part of the chemistry or the DNA of the series, and that changing that is not without risk.

:o

Agreed.

Im going to throw another name into the pot also - Yoko Kanno, a real nice musical talent with music for the Ghost in the Shell movie's under her belt.

[van_HellSing]

Err, wrong. Yoko only did the music for the GitS: Stand Alone Complex tv series, the Ghost In The Shell and Innocence movies were scored by Kenji Kawai.

Both are incredibly talented composers though, and Yoko's range of different styles is just amazing.

Speaking of anime music I think people here would enjoy Hiroyuki Namba's music for Armitage III. Also, I always get a DX vibe out of the track MJ-XX (http://lain.ru/files/bootleg/1/Bootleg-%5B28%5D-MJ-XX.mp3) (sic!) from Serial Experiments Lain.

[Bluey71]

Err, wrong. Yoko only did the music for the GitS: Stand Alone Complex tv series, the Ghost In The Shell and Innocence movies were scored by Kenji Kawai.

Both are incredibly talented composers though, and Yoko's range of different styles is just amazing.

Speaking of anime music I think people here would enjoy Hiroyuki Namba's music for Armitage III. Also, I always get a DX vibe out of the track MJ-XX (http://lain.ru/files/bootleg/1/Bootleg-%5B28%5D-MJ-XX.mp3) (sic!) from Serial Experiments Lain.

ops - yes you are right - must drink more coffee when posting on forums this late!

[Freddo]

It's funny, cos the first time I played DX all those years back, I actually completed it with the music disabled!
So did I :) Not by choice though, but my computer was far below the minimum requirements, so I turned off a lot of stuff to make the game run more smoothly.

If Alexander Brandon isn't doing the music, then I hope Jesper Kyd do it. His music is generally awesome, and I'm sure he would be able to do something that fits the Deus Ex world very well.

Don't know if any of you played Dreamweb which was released back in 1994, but it's a cyberpunk game that had pretty nice music by Matt Seldon. Not much music, but what was there was very good and suited for the game. Unfortunately, that's also the only game I know he worked on.

But I'm guessing it's more likely we see Amon Tobin doing the music, since he's located in Montreal too, and done stuff like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. But can't say I'm particulary fond of Amon Tobin's music and do hope they won't use him.

[pHdeus]

So did I :) Not by choice ... If Alexander Brandon isn't doing the music, then I hope Jesper Kyd do it. His music is generally awesome, and I'm sure he would be able to do something that fits the Deus Ex world very well.


From what I have heard on the Jasper Kyd site, I am very impressed by his talent.

Now with regards to playing with no music, it is also interesting to note that there are parts of Deus EX where I could create the image from the music, without the graphics. The gold medal goes to the undersea lab, I can look out of the window into the ocean, close my eyes and have the music create the same same scene. The sliver medal finisher in that catagory, in my assessment, is the MJ12 laboratories, the large room with the globe statue.

[orbitaldescent]

This may have been said, but somebody needs to find Alex Brandon and Michiel Van Den Bos and pay them whatever money they desire to do the score for this game. Alex is probably busy with his other job but he probably has his price. They're both friggin' geniouses of musical talent and a huge reason a lot of us got so roped into the first game.

[Mr. K]

Whoever is doing the soundtrack for DX3, there are two themes that need to be brought, in some incarnation, from the first game into the third: The UNATCO theme (possibly the most recognizable tune of all time), and the Oceanlab Complex theme (it completely defined that part of the Ocean Lab: hi-tech, mysterious, underwater, and memorable).

Just my two cents,

-K

[SemiAnonymous]

you should probably change the title to musical score or something, or people will think you mean ratings. - Done :) DXe

Personally, they both need to return. I wouldn't mind some other composers making a couple of tracks, I would literally squeal a manly squeal if Michiru Yamane of Castlevania fame composed some tracks, maybe some cutscene tracks. Get some other talent in for a few tracks, and you'd have a nice, diverse set of tunes

[Freddo]

Alex Brandon (http://forums.eidosgames.com/member.php?u=91862) posted on this forum a while ago, and he's not doing the music.

Ambient Music discussion (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?p=715111)

[Gizmostuff]

My personal favorite from the original was the DuClare Chateau soundtrack but the Ocean Lab was one of my favorites as well. I would love to see these two return somehow in DX3.

Too bad Alex isn't doing the music for dx3 though. The guy obviously has a lot of talent!

[Fig89]

They need to take the approach they took in DX1, instead of what they did in IW.

All the music in IW sounded like procedurally generated ambient noise untill we got up to liberty island and jc's sanctuary, which was ambient music sparsped with the good old recognizable melodies.

IMO, DX, got music right, brilliantly so. Sorry, but coolish ambient noise is never going to be a discernable melody and rythym for me.

In my happy dream world, Eidos would somehow get Trent Reznor to do at least some of the soundtrack for DX3.

[Igoe]

I am a large fan of context-sensitive music.

Music that changes dynamically based on what the player is doing.

Zelda and DX both did this very well. If you are constantly listening to the same melody over and over again, it will become repetitive and annoying. Even the catchiest of tunes becomes droll the 30th time you hear it.

Dynamic music is a good way to break up the monotony, and allow musicians to make more arcade style music, instead of relying on "ambient" style music to avoid the strain looping MIDIs cause. DXIW's music, while very good, was intentionally more offset and quiet, making sure that it was there, but in the background.

This is all well and good, but in the end it leaves players scratching their heads trying to remember any one particular track. The DXIW soundtrack contained beautifully remixed versions of the "Escape from UNATCO," "MJ-12 Labs," "UNATCO's Theme," and "Synapse" themes, but most players wouldn't have ever noticed, because they were never in the spotlight.

So the easiest way to keep music in the foreground, and prevent it from being repetitive, is to actively have it change.

As the player engages in combat, enters a sneaking mode, or starts a conversation, the music will alter itself, making sure the player hears several tunes over the course of the hour. A good rule of thumb is, you should never be listening to the same melody for more than 10 minutes at a time.

In a game like DX, this is easy to achieve because most players will at least do one of the following; engage in some kind of combat, speak with an individual, or attempt to sneak over the course of 10 minutes in gameplay.

[pHdeus]

Hi Orbitaldescent and all,

If you descend for just a moment to the link above, you will find that I share your passion and for the most part your assessment.

Not to bore everyone by repeating myself for the third or fourth time, but I have said that for better or worse, Alexander Brandon is part of the musical DNA of JC Denton, in sense that in DEUS EX, the music is indivisible from the way the game shows up, and why it is loved by so many.

In fact his on-line music from "ERA'S END" is like the next DEUS EX in holding pattern waiting to land. Here is the link FYI: http://www.alexanderbrandon.net/music.html.

If everyone here buys at least one of his songs, it might send a message loud enough to be heard in Montreal. :o

(No I do not get a cut of the $0.99/mp3 !)

[pHdeus]

...To be a bit more serious.

Eidos knows that the music can make or break DEUS EX 3.

There is a lot of talent out there including Jasper Kyd. We will need to trust Eidos even while having strong requests and opinions. ... And, Alex Brandon knows that we have a huge respect for his artistic accomplishment.

It may be tough, but I see it as our job right now.
To trust.:o

[DXeXodus]

It may be tough, but I see it as our job right now.
To trust.:o

QFT. I believe that this is all in good hands.

[Igoe]

I do too.

The developers are actively reading these posts, and taking stock in what we say. There is a very positive air about EM, and I'm sure the crew will provide us with an excellent listening experience.

That being said the poor lads at EM have picked a doozy of a game to whet their teeth on :P.

Ganbatte.

[urban_queen41]

I'm all for Jesper Kyd doing the music for DX3- if he's the guy who ends up doing it I certainly won't complain =] From what I've seen on his site, he sounds like he'd know what kind of music DX really needs.

(Although, Akira Yamaoka of Silent Hill fame would be my dream for DX. That guy is a GENIUS in every sense of the word- the sheer atmosphere he creates in his music is stunning- I have most of the SH soundtracks on my MP3 player. =])

[drummindog]

I think that one of the strongest points about Deus Ex, over most of this world's games, is that it had an outstandingly good ambient music.

And this music, is what gave the game its "movie" nature. You kinda feel you are playing a movie, not a game, i.e: very immersing!

So i urge the developers, to make it good this time.

I trust Alex Brandon and the rest of the team.

Edit: I found his email, it's: abrandon@midway.com :D Let's send him a request!

Yes, I found the ambient music very immersing and it also gave me the creeps at times. Being a little creeped out by the music drew me in for sure. Not a bad thing. It seemed to add to the serious nature of the game and the overall mystery of the game as well.

On a slightly different note: I was looking for another good game to get into while I wait. Do you know that of all the FPS games I was looking at, only Deus EX got a 5 star rating by the buyers at Amazon.com? Of course, I didn't have time to do an exhaustive search, but I think I was pretty near the end of the list when I saw this.

[Mr. K]

You know, I was watching The Recruit last night, and I realized that it's soundtrack reminded me a lot of Deus Ex.

http://us.7digital.com/artists/klaus-badelt/the-recruit/

Check it out.

[jordan_a]

Very interesting soundtrack indeed. I hope they'll go for something similar for DX3, right balance between a video game melody and a motion picture soundtrack.

Do you guys like "A bug for breakfast"? Do you know any similar track?

[ikenstein]

...Just for ****s and giggles; I want at least ONE bar scene with a NG Resonance-style Holoprojector Jukebox, that has Tom Jones singing "She's A Lady"!!!!


thats muzac, not music.

[Apollonius]

I’d REALLY REALLY REALLY love to hear a full orchestral version of the original Deus Ex theme song for the new game. It’s got brilliant potential and in the right hands can become truly epic. A bit of electric guitar incorporated to replace the electro bits could work excellently and probably suit an orchestral version better. Take a listen to it again if you have to and hear for yourself. For an idea of how good orchestral and electric guitar go together take a listen to the first 2 minutes of Armin Van Buuren – Imagine at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGC-rhzXg70 then imagine something similar with the DX theme :cool:

[Mr. K]

I’d REALLY REALLY REALLY love to hear a full orchestral version of the original Deus Ex theme song for the new game. It’s got brilliant potential and in the right hands can become truly epic. A bit of electric guitar incorporated to replace the electro bits could work excellently and probably suit an orchestral version better. Take a listen to it again if you have to and hear for yourself. For an idea of how good orchestral and electric guitar go together take a listen to the first 2 minutes of Armin Van Buuren – Imagine at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGC-rhzXg70 then imagine something similar with the DX theme :cool:

I imagine that this would be something like the transition from the Halo 1 theme (all synth and recorded chorus), to the Halo 3 theme (all orchestral and recorded chorus). Doing something like that would be great for the DX theme. :D

I agree that a little bit of synth here and there with an electric guitar would be excellent. It truly is a memorable theme, and could become epic theme that rivals the Halo music for awesomeness.

[J.CDenton]

I hope the soudntrack will worth DX1. It'll be a difficult challenge since Alexander Brandon provided us an incredible soundtrack. Maybe they should also take some other inspirations. Like the Kenji Kawai GITS Soundtracks or even Vangelis' Blade Runner.

[Mr. K]

I hope the soudntrack will worth DX1. It'll be a difficult challenge since Alexander Brandon provided us an incredible soundtrack. Maybe they should also take some other inspirations. Like the Kenji Kawai GITS Soundtracks or even Vangelis' Blade Runner.

Personally I think the concept of an orchestral re-make of the DX 1 soundtrack would be brilliant. the exact soundtrack itself wouldn't work, of course, but a re-imagining of it could. :)

[gamer0004]

Personally I think the concept of an orchestral re-make of the DX 1 soundtrack would be brilliant. the exact soundtrack itself wouldn't work, of course, but a re-imagining of it could. :)

They already did it for Deus Ex: The Conspiracy (Deus Ex PS2 version).

[MagnumJoe]

Wow!

I think Jesper Kyd is a very fine idea... I didn't know it's him who made the Assassin's Creed score; which was incredible!

Of course i would like him to do the thing... But also, still, with the original DX1 "theme", you know what i mean?

[gamer0004]

In case anyone's interested: it's available for download here (http://dx-music.muzicommedia.net/files/ost/mp3/DXThemePS2.mp3)
EDIT: and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H2v9TRESjQ)

[jordan_a]

A kind request for my fellow cousins of Québec. If a French character is to speak in DX3, please hire a real French, you know what I mean. :D

[Absentia]

His track "Vegas" from Hitman Blood Money would fit a Deus Ex game perfectly imo. I loved his work on the Hitman games but never thought to actually check him out till now, and thinking about it he'd actually be rather well suited for DX. His style isnt as synth-heavy, but it can be very electronic and has a gritty mood to it that just screams cyberpunk to me.

[Bloodwolf806]

Both Deus Ex and Invisible War had incredible music. I'd love to see some remastered tracks such as the main theme and New York Streets, but I'd also love some original ambient tracks that fit into the Deus Ex world.

Come to think of it, Jesper Kyd would be PERFECT.

[MyImmortal]

Both Deus Ex and Invisible War had incredible music. I'd love to see some remastered tracks such as the main theme and New York Streets, but I'd also love some original ambient tracks that fit into the Deus Ex world.

Come to think of it, Jesper Kyd would be PERFECT.

Yeah, I suggested Kyd earlier in this thread, so right with you on this. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure he must be one of the top composers considered for the job. :cool:

[Big Orange]

I also rate Jesper Kyd very highly too and he's got the right mix of synth and orchestra for his music score. Ambient music is more appropriate nowadays, although some DX1 style jingles would be welcome in some sections of the game (but put on a longer loop to stop it getting played to death after a few minutes, driving me crazy: Hong Kong jingle I'm looking at you).

[MyImmortal]

Eidos has a history of damn fine soundtracks in games, done by great musicians. Jesper Kyd on the Hitman series, Eric Brosius on Thief, Kurt Harland on Legacy of Kain... I don't think any Eidos game I ever played disappointed me musically.


Absolutely agree! :cool:

I'll also put a mention in for the Eidos Tomb Raider soundtrack too (originally, Martin Iveson and Nathan McCree); though I know it is more on the lines of traditional and modern "classical", rather than purely ambient. But I love it. :)
The soundtrack of Anniversary was composed by Troels Brun Folmann, based around the original music.

[jordan_a]

02:30 - 03:00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjxZrIMsGY) I think that's exactly the kind of music DX needs.

Do you know more of that kind? It's also similar to the dialogue soundtrack of Area 51.

[JakePeriphery]

One of the greatest aspects of the first Deus Ex game was the music. It showed me that electronic music can have a progressive sound and not be the generic house techno most people think of when they think of electronic music. Alexander Brandon's compositions even inspired me to be a electronic musician of my own:

www.myspace.com/jakebowen

Undertow of Attraction and Distortion Corridor are heavily influenced by his style.

But anyway I wanted to point out the importance of the music to Deus Ex it really sets the mood while maintaining memorable melodies.

I will never take my Deus Ex soundtrack off my MP3 player.

Does anyone know who is composing for DX3 and if so what others games have they worked on?

[Mr. K]

I very much want to know who is doing the music.

Any comment? René? :D

[GmanPro]

Yeah I do too, good music can really improve the quality of a game. The DX 1 music was one of the biggest reasons why I loved that game so much. I hope that its the same dude, but I wont really mind if the devs bring in someone new. ;)

[DXeXodus]

We already have a music thread :)

[Mr. K]

We already have a music thread :)

Yeah but it was almost long dead. :p

[DXeXodus]

And now it is alive again. :thumbsup:
No point in having multiple threads for the same thing. It's forum mechanics 101.

[JakePeriphery]

And now it is alive again. :thumbsup:
No point in having multiple threads for the same thing. It's forum mechanics 101.

Can you at least change the thread title to something that has to do with Deus Ex? I purposely wanted Alex's name in the title so people would read it.

[DXeXodus]

Cool. Thread title changed.

If you look in the first page of this thread now you will see that AB posted here personally. Which was quite cool :)

[JakePeriphery]

Cool. Thread title changed.

If you look in the first page of this thread now you will see that AB posted here personally. Which was quite cool :)

Thanks man! Yeah I saw that, he's the man.

[MagnumJoe]

02:30 - 03:00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjxZrIMsGY) I think that's exactly the kind of music DX needs.

Do you know more of that kind? It's also similar to the dialogue soundtrack of Area 51.

I think Equilibrium in many ways very much like Deus Ex. Same mood. I even think that if a DX movie is to be made, Christian Bale MUST have the role :)

[-=fox=-]

I know several people saying that about Equlibrium but somehow the movie felt flat for me. I should give it another view maybe. At least I can agree on Bale as JC. But then again I can not approve any movie that has been made after a game - especially if it's after DX.

[René]

I very much want to know who is doing the music.

Any comment? René? :D

I can't say anything about that at this time. Sorry.

[ElectricWizard]

I'm not going to read the entire thread, but i absolutely loved the Deus Ex soundtrack and i hate most video game music. That Hong Kong Wan Chai market song is so amazingly catchy!

[ZenAbra]

Here's a vote for Michiel van den Bos.

On the soundtracks Alexander Brandon and Michiel van den Bos worked on together (Unreal, Unreal Tournament & Deus Ex), I always liked Michiel van den Bos pieces better.

They feature a more hypnotic and atmospheric quality.

While I'd love to see them both work on Deus Ex 3, if they can't get Brandon, perhaps at least they could land Michiel van den Bos.

[ber82]

I just listened Depeche Mode's Agent Orange and i could feel a little of the Deus Ex in it. I hope someone agrees and include it in a level for Deus Ex 3. Anyone who loves Deus Ex Music knows what i'm talking about.:rolleyes:


If anyone haven't heard of it,

http://www.last.fm/music/Depeche+Mode/_/Agent+Orange

Greetings Deus Ex's fans. ;)

[JakePeriphery]

I just listened Depeche Mode's Agent Orange and i could feel a little of the Deus Ex in it. I hope someone agrees and include it in a level for Deus Ex 3. Anyone who loves Deus Ex Music knows what i'm talking about.:rolleyes:


If anyone haven't heard of it,

http://www.last.fm/music/Depeche+Mode/_/Agent+Orange

Greetings Deus Ex's fans. ;)

While I respect some of Depeche Mode's work, I wouldn't hire them to come up with some BGM. I'd much rather Telefon Tel Aviv or Nine Inch Nails do the music for Deus Ex 3.

[iWait]

Nine Inch Nails wouldn't fit DX3.
There have been several threads on DX3 music, and the general consensus seems to be a sound track similar to DX, in that each level has it's own unique sound, adding to the feel of the level.
I dunno, but to me the DX music always had a certain undertone that just amplified the whole dystopian world-gone-wrong feel of the game.

[DXeXodus]

^^ Exactly.

Please check the existing threads before making a new one.

Merged.

[JakePeriphery]

Nine Inch Nails wouldn't fit DX3.
There have been several threads on DX3 music, and the general consensus seems to be a sound track similar to DX, in that each level has it's own unique sound, adding to the feel of the level.
I dunno, but to me the DX music always had a certain undertone that just amplified the whole dystopian world-gone-wrong feel of the game.

Self pwn. I don't think you've really heard a lot of Nine Inch Nails, their catalog goes way beyond what you hear on TV or the radio.

EDIT: Also I was thinking about how in DX1 and 2 you spent some time in night clubs, well if you go into any almost any real life night club the DJ is more than likely going to throw in a Nine Inch Nails remix.

[JakePeriphery]

^^ Exactly.

Please check the existing threads before making a new one.

Merged.

Also while I appreciate the time you put in for the moderation of this forum I don't believe all music threads need to be lumped into one thread simply because they're on the subject of music, this seems to be the tone used by a lot of forums and by using that logic you could lump every thread into one because they all have to do with Deus Ex 3. I think the original "Depeche Mode" thread was legit because it was talking about a specific aspect of the Deus Ex franchise and that's the out-sourcing of music for parts of the game (i.e. Reeves Gabrels, Kidney Thieves)

When you merge specific threads into broad threads like this it completely counteracts the purpose of merging threads anyway which is to clean up the forums, now instead of being able to search for main topics you now have to sift through 8 pages of replies and is just one cluster fornication of replies.

[DXeXodus]

You must realize that people complain if I merge threads and then people complain if I don't merge threads. So there is very little I can do to make things perfect over here. It makes more sense to have all music related ideas in one place.

[JakePeriphery]

You must realize that people complain if I merge threads and then people complain if I don't merge threads. So there is very little I can do to make things perfect over here. It makes more sense to have all music related ideas in one place.

I'm not really complaining, just offering my suggestions, I don't really care how you run the forum you were put in charge of :) I think you do a good job though. I also respect that you respond to the communication of the forum instead of being the Gestapo *looks at Bethesda's forum*

[MyImmortal]

Also while I appreciate the time you put in for the moderation of this forum I don't believe all music threads need to be lumped into one thread simply because they're on the subject of music, this seems to be the tone used by a lot of forums and by using that logic you could lump every thread into one because they all have to do with Deus Ex 3. I think the original "Depeche Mode" thread was legit because it was talking about a specific aspect of the Deus Ex franchise and that's the out-sourcing of music for parts of the game (i.e. Reeves Gabrels, Kidney Thieves)

When you merge specific threads into broad threads like this it completely counteracts the purpose of merging threads anyway which is to clean up the forums, now instead of being able to search for main topics you now have to sift through 8 pages of replies and is just one cluster fornication of replies.

It's all about trying to achieve a sensible balance and, in my opinion, all music-related discussion should go in one single thread.
The only music that deserves its very own thread will be the actual music used for DX3. :cool:

As for the statement that using such 'merge logic' means we may as well lump all discussion into one thread is somewhat senseless and extreme and doesn't offer any justification for having a standalone music thread for Depeche Mode etc. :p

All my own opinion, of course. Maybe we will see an Uprising now? :D

[JakePeriphery]

It's all about trying to achieve a sensible balance and, in my opinion, all music-related discussion should go in one single thread.
The only music that deserves its very own thread will be the actual music used for DX3. :cool:

As for the statement that using such 'merge logic' means we may as well lump all discussion into one thread is somewhat senseless and extreme and doesn't offer any justification for having a standalone music thread for Depeche Mode etc. :p

All my own opinion, of course. Maybe we will see an Uprising now? :D

Well I'm all about specifics, it actually annoys me when I search for something and it's in the middle of a 14 page thread that got merged 7 times and now I have to figure out where the 7 different conversations begin and end. The dynamics of dialogue apply even on a forum because essentially it's like a bunch of people talking at the same time when you merge threads.

My logic wasn't senseless, it comes down to how much importance you put on specific threads with specific ideas - you may not care about the many facets of music production and discussion, all very different to me though.

[MyImmortal]

Well I'm all about specifics, it actually annoys me when I search for something and it's in the middle of a 14 page thread that got merged 7 times and now I have to figure out where the 7 different conversations begin and end. The dynamics of dialogue apply even on a forum because essentially it's like a bunch of people talking at the same time when you merge threads.

My logic wasn't senseless, it comes down to how much importance you put on specific threads with specific ideas - you may not care about the many facets of music production and discussion, all very different to me though.

In relation to the Depeche Mode thread, you are not having to plough through the now-merged thread to find the discussion, are you? It is the most recently posted and therefore easy to find. If you are talking about different music discussions within the same thread (as a result of several merges) then you would have to plough through it anyway if you wanted to follow up on an older conversation. Correct? :)
PLUS, these once-independent threads all kind of 'drift' off topic eventually anyway and just discuss music (or whatever the topic was) in more general form...
Yes, it can be annoying to have to figure out 7 different conversations etc., but it would be MORE annoying to have to search for 7 different convos in 7 different threads as well. Hence, there is a lot of sense in trying to keep some kind of order by merging together similar topics. Sure, its not perfect but it is better than having a whole load of separate threads about a similar topic.

I hope you don't think I was being rude when I said senseless, that wasn't my intention. But I think to liken merging all threads in this forum into one single thread was a senseless comparison/suggestion. That is all. ;)
For the record, music is my favourite of all personal interests. :cool:

[Bloodwolf806]

Wow. I'm glad so many were fond of the soundtrack. StormFront, I do have to agree with you. Deus Ex had some good themes and a strong overall musical identity, but the repetition was indeed annoying. Back in those days we didn't pay as much attention to gameplay time against music length. It was more about "eh, two minutes should suffice for this entire level, as long as we have combat and exploration", but if exploration lasted a lot longer than combat, etc.. It's one of the things that taught me to work much more closely with designers on a regular basis as to a level's specific progressions and mechanics.

I also agree with the folks that think the music itself is outdated. It is! While nice for nostalgia, MODs are dead except in handheld, and we even used a live orchestra to record the main theme for the PS2 version.

I'm definitely flattered and honored that Eidos had a nod to the original theme in the trailer. I'm hoping they'll take the memorable bits from the original games (my personal favorite is the title from DX:IW, for example) and skillfully weave them into DX3, while giving the game a feel all it's own and introducing new themes. I'm excited to see what this game will unfold into.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Your music is amazing.

[ber82]

Also while I appreciate the time you put in for the moderation of this forum I don't believe all music threads need to be lumped into one thread simply because they're on the subject of music, this seems to be the tone used by a lot of forums and by using that logic you could lump every thread into one because they all have to do with Deus Ex 3. I think the original "Depeche Mode" thread was legit because it was talking about a specific aspect of the Deus Ex franchise and that's the out-sourcing of music for parts of the game (i.e. Reeves Gabrels, Kidney Thieves)

When you merge specific threads into broad threads like this it completely counteracts the purpose of merging threads anyway which is to clean up the forums, now instead of being able to search for main topics you now have to sift through 8 pages of replies and is just one cluster fornication of replies.

I agree. :rolleyes:

[ber82]

While I respect some of Depeche Mode's work, I wouldn't hire them to come up with some BGM. I'd much rather Telefon Tel Aviv or Nine Inch Nails do the music for Deus Ex 3.

OMG, that's a nice choice too, I couldn't agree more. In fact, Chris Vrenna composed American McGee's Alice Soundtrack. It's wicked but great!. I believe he could create that wonderful DeusEx atmosphere.:rolleyes:

[Mr. K]

Well hey guys, DXe is the merge king. I would stage an uprising but I would have to merge all the uprising threads together as they would all overlap. :D

[ber82]

Well hey guys, DXe is the merge king. I would stage an uprising but I would have to merge all the uprising threads together as they would all overlap. :D

This thread is about to be merged to the merging merged threads thread.:D

[F3nyx]

Alexander Brandon is the man. He did great work not only on the DX soundtrack (The Synapse, Enemy Within) but on the Tyrian soundtrack as well (Caminis, Asteroid Dance #2) -- both of those have a permanent place in my collection.

I happen to have the complete DX soundtrack in MP3, and by complete I mean not only the main level tracks but the combat themes, conversation music, death jingles, etc. If anyone's interested I'll put it on rapidshare.

[JakePeriphery]

Alexander Brandon is the man. He did great work not only on the DX soundtrack (The Synapse, Enemy Within) but on the Tyrian soundtrack as well (Caminis, Asteroid Dance #2) -- both of those have a permanent place in my collection.

I happen to have the complete DX soundtrack in MP3, and by complete I mean not only the main level tracks but the combat themes, conversation music, death jingles, etc. If anyone's interested I'll put it on rapidshare.

I'll take that!

[ber82]

Alexander Brandon is the man. He did great work not only on the DX soundtrack (The Synapse, Enemy Within) but on the Tyrian soundtrack as well (Caminis, Asteroid Dance #2) -- both of those have a permanent place in my collection.

I happen to have the complete DX soundtrack in MP3, and by complete I mean not only the main level tracks but the combat themes, conversation music, death jingles, etc. If anyone's interested I'll put it on rapidshare.

me too!

[-|°]

I happen to have the complete DX soundtrack in MP3, and by complete I mean not only the main level tracks but the combat themes, conversation music, death jingles, etc. If anyone's interested I'll put it on rapidshare.
It's already here (http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/186). But tracks can only be downloaded one by one.

[F3nyx]

It's already here (http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/186). But tracks can only be downloaded one by one.

Yeah, that's where I got it from. I wouldn't want to put anyone else through that. Uploading now.

[F3nyx]

http://rapidshare.com/files/160765913/DX_OST.rar.html

Rapidshare says it's only good for 10 downloads.

[JakePeriphery]

http://rapidshare.com/files/160765913/DX_OST.rar.html

Rapidshare says it's only good for 10 downloads.

*YOINK* Thanks!

[MrPibbs]

The Deus Ex soundtrack is outstanding on the whole, and nearly every track is distinct and memorable because each track evokes a mental image from the game. The main theme from Invisible War was also quite good, but nothing else from that game was any good when compared to the original, except for lighting and the polygon count.

[GmanPro]

They should do what Oblivion did (That is probably the only time I will ever say anything like that again :D ) and rework the original music. I noticed it occasionally in Oblivion, the music sounded similar to Morrowind's score at times.

A remixed DX1 soundtrack (with plenty of original works in there too) would be great imo. :thumbsup:

[Igoe]

I have to agree with this, the remix + OST is the way to go. One of the things i LOVED about DX2 was the soundtrack. I think the new Main Title was even better than the original, and the end credits were as well. Several other tracks got remixed as well, but it was all in he background.

I did LOVE a lot of the newer tracks just as much though. SSC HQ in Trier, the Archology music, almost ALL the Cairo music, the Seattle main hub theme, the Biolab in seattle theme.

I can almost HEAR the Heron's Loft theme playing when I look at the image of Adam's apt.

[Lazarus Ledd]

but that kind of music never existed in DX3 period :D

[dr_niz]

I'd dig an illustriously cinematic opening theme and end credits. I always thought DX2's opening theme was good but perhaps too short. As far as end credits go, nothing caps a game like an incredible closer. The best end soundtrack I've ever heard (obviously that fit the game) was Mass Effects m4 partII (spelling?) by the faunts.

As far as level music goes, DX outpaced DX2 but I agree with earlier posts that at times it could be distracting. Because of that, it would seem best to find a medium between DX and DX2 styles by mixing melodic and catchy with ambiance, where it's difficult to observe the loop point.

[2030]

Just an idea: I think they should add IDM (intelligent dance music) type music to Deus Ex 3, it's kind of ambient but amazingly fun to listen to, AND futuristic to boot!--check it out devs it's worth it!

Some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGc5v0v0Oo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMz2T1rr3qk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41BuGOU4QFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk8W3ysnB7M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnwSA3XV6o8&feature=related

[GmanPro]

My favorite ending-credits tracks in games would probably have to be Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale. I also liked the star wars music in KotOR. Half Life 2 was ok also...

[Torley]

The Deus Ex soundtrack succeeded in large part because it combined catchy melodies with intricate arrangements. All too often, the mistake is made of going too far in the former direction (generic trance) or the latter (unlistenable experiments). There's also the demoscene roots which helped a lot, because they encourage resourcefulness and creative sound design.

When I'm in the virtual world of Second Life, sometimes when I'm strolling through cyberpunk environments, I play the DX soundtrack in the background. The Hong Kong music has never failed me here:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/468077552_d35a33e35b.jpg?v=0

I've seen Residents with avatar tributes to DX, and even a recreation of Paul's apartment by Enabran Templar at one point. It was pretty badass.

Also, some history: I originally got into SL because I was looking for a Deus Ex-style MMO but couldn't find a sci-fi one that took place 50-100 years ahead.

[GmanPro]

Hey guys look what I just found.

http://blogs.ign.com/Obsidian_NWN2/2008/11/10/105627/

Notice who the audio director for obsidian is? ;)

[jordan_a]

That's why it's unlikely he will compose DX3's soundtrack.

However I know for sure it should be very good.

[3nails4you]

:D I know a guy who works at Obsidian!

[GmanPro]

I would love to work for Obsidian. One of my dream jobs. :thumbsup:

[AaronJ]

I think that one of the strongest points about Deus Ex, over most of this world's games, is that it had an outstandingly good ambient music.

And this music, is what gave the game its "movie" nature. You kinda feel you are playing a movie, not a game, i.e: very immersing!

So i urge the developers, to make it good this time.

I trust Alex Brandon and the rest of the team.

Edit: I found his email, it's: abrandon@midway.com :D Let's send him a request!

I agree, I adored the soundtrack. Hopefully we won't have a sub-par instrumental/electronic score for DX3. AND NO METAL.

[DXeXodus]

Just use Deus Ex 1's music. I know I'd be happy :D

[GmanPro]

Someone should make that mod. ^^ :thumbsup:

[APostlELite]

Do anyone knows who the real composer for DX3, anyway?

[Bloodwolf806]

Well, us 360 users can just use custom soundtracks and listen to DX1 music while we play DX3:D

[GmanPro]

^^
You could do that with a PC too you know...

[Wildeheart]

The Deus Ex soundtrack is outstanding on the whole, and nearly every track is distinct and memorable because each track evokes a mental image from the game. The main theme from Invisible War was also quite good, but nothing else from that game was any good when compared to the original, except for lighting and the polygon count.

Not sure I agree there, the original songs provided by The Kidney Thieves were excellent and they're still one of my favorite industrial bands, I was really upset when they split up shortly after the release of DX2 as I never got to see them perform live.

[Torley]

MUST-READ if you like Alexander Brandon's art: his book, Audio for Games (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735714134?ie=UTF8&tag=torllive-20&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0735714134). I just got a used copy and he tells stories from his career, including the challenges he faced during DE:IW.

[Bloodwolf806]

Not sure I agree there, the original songs provided by The Kidney Thieves were excellent and they're still one of my favorite industrial bands, I was really upset when they split up shortly after the release of DX2 as I never got to see them perform live.

I also thought that the main theme and J.C. Dentons lair were excellent tracks.

[Earendil]

I think Vandenberg is right up there in terms of sheer ambience. I will never forget that gas station in the middle of bloody nowhere...

[Mr. K]

I think Vandenberg is right up there in terms of sheer ambience. I will never forget that gas station in the middle of bloody nowhere...

I dunno- I think the Paris tracks rival it for atmosphere. :D

[Igoe]

Now that I think about it, I can't decide on the best ambient track in IW OR in DX1. They were all really well done. Hong Kong (in all areas) Paris, UNATCO, NYC (all parts) Cairo, Trier, Antartica, all of it was very evocative.

[GmanPro]

Alexander Brandon is the lord of video game music. I don't know how much he actually contributed to the Storm of Zehir tracks, but they are very good imo. Maybe not quite DX, but still memorable.

[Igoe]

Oh man, Zehir? Aweome music.

[GmanPro]

I like the world map tracks, and the temple of Waukeen track. :cool:

[jordan_a]

Don't start on BG2... :D

[GmanPro]

Nah man, Storm of Zehir.

But BG seriously had the best high fantasy music I can think of. Both games. :thumbsup: I have most of it on my pc, along with the DX1 OST.

[GmanPro]

Lol, this is sweet :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5M_mVtAcc&feature=related

[MyImmortal]

I hope Eidos will tell us who the chosen composer will be, long before the release of the game.
I just want to know.... like NOW. :p

[J.CDenton]

What would be great would be to release some tracks once the music is done in streaming (or in DDL is possible). Not too much, I mean four of five tracks so that we could have an idea of the soundtrack used in the game.

I'd love to hear for example the Main Title Music.

:)

[jordan_a]

Good idea. I would love to hear the main theme before the game's release.

[Kaigypsy]

I know I am way late to the game but who is counting. Music in a game is so important because it creates an atmosphere in the mind along with the visuals. I'm probably going to get smacked for this but in DE2: JC's Santuary music just haunted me the whole time I was there. First time I got there, I had Alex stand near JC so I could look around and just take the whole place in. It was magic. I think I said "Oh **** son!" but could not come up with any other way to describe how much I enjoyed it.

When JC was speaking with Morpheus, also a good moment-sort of peaceful with a slightly dark edge. Can't remember where else I heard it. Maybe time to play DE1 again.

I've rarely been disappointed with the music of some of my favorite games but of all time, MYST music tends to really be just solid good. I still have my first MYST game which had a music CD. Every now and again, I play it at night to relax.

:thumb:

[J.CDenton]

Riven music is also excellent, especially the end theme. Incredible song to hear! ;)

Two bad alexander Brandon didn't make it again for Deus Ex 2. There were not enough musics while there were dozens in DX1, including conversations, fights, death, chopper musics. It gave the game the feeling to be living. Some musics of Deus Ex 2 are good of course, I especially like the Emerald Suites Theme but well we're far from DX1 Masterpiece.

René, please ask the music composer to release the main track of Deus Ex 3 on the website once it's done. I'll be your driver for the next year if you manage to get us the song! I can even clean Eidos Montreal if you wish (so that I'll be able to leak informations on the board)...

[rhalibus]

It wouldn't be an unprecedented request...John Williams showcased two themes from The Empire Strikes Back (the Jedi theme and Imperial March) before the film actually came out...

[René]

Good idea. I would love to hear the main theme before the game's release.

I'm not sure when we'll be releasing any extended tracks, but one place you'll hear some of the music is in Blog video intros! ETA: early 2009.

I'm such a tease.

[MaxxQ1]

I'm such a tease.

Ya think?:D

I know it's gonna cause a few groans around here*, but I recently (like in the past two days) watched the first Ghost in the Shell series, Stand Alone Complex, and I have fallen in love with the theme song, Inner Universe, by Yoko Kanno and Origa. Origa has such a beautiful voice, and I would not object to her having something to do with the music in the game. Maybe the end credits music, or some club music in the game.

*I'm NOT looking for gameplay elements from GitS, so calm down everyone. In fact, if I wanted that sort of gameplay, I'd actually get the GitS game, or maybe play Tomb Raider: Underworld. Oh, wait...I just finished TR:U a few hours ago. Fun game. First TR I've ever played. BUT...I don't want TR (or GitS) elements in my DX. That's like having chocolate in my peanut butter...no...ummmmm...:rasp:

[a_noise_severe]

i have found perfect deus ex style music - www.myspace.com/globusmusic

listen to 'diem ex dei'

:)

*edit - also, kidneythieves are back together! i loved their songs on invisible war too and got their album 'trickster' because of it. they're a great band.

[jordan_a]

i have found perfect deus ex style music - listen to 'diem ex dei'
Hum... no. :D

[a_noise_severe]

well i like it anyway. i don't care what they do with the DX3 soundtrack as long as it's not done using crappy synths.

[rhalibus]

I recently (like in the past two days) watched the first Ghost in the Shell series, Stand Alone Complex, and I have fallen in love with the theme song, Inner Universe, by Yoko Kanno and Origa.


What? Come on--everyone knows that "Rise", the intro theme to GITS: SAC 2nd Gig, is the real kick ass song in the GITS universe...:D

i don't care what they do with the DX3 soundtrack as long as it's not done using crappy synths.

I actually liked the original synth version of the Deus Ex intro theme (for the PC) better than the later orchestrated one (for the PS2)...maybe cause they got rid of the driving second movement...

[MaxxQ1]

What? Come on--everyone knows that "Rise", the intro theme to GITS: SAC 2nd Gig, is the real kick ass song in the GITS universe...:D

I wouldn't know. My copy of 2nd Gig won't be here from Amazon 'til Wednesday. Gimme a break - I only JUST started getting into anime in a more than casual way.

Either way, I wasn't actually saying that "Inner Universe" should be used for DX3, but that either Origa, Yoko Kanno, or both might be able to contribute songs/music for the game. Especially since both have experience in game music.

Oh, and while I like the original synth version of the DX theme, I also like the orchestrated version. It sounds a bit more "full" than the original, more epic in feel. Both are equal in my ears, but for different reasons.

[a_noise_severe]

What? Come on--everyone knows that "Rise", the intro theme to GITS: SAC 2nd Gig, is the real kick ass song in the GITS universe...:D



I actually liked the original synth version of the Deus Ex intro theme (for the PC) better than the later orchestrated one (for the PS2)...maybe cause they got rid of the driving second movement...

yes, it was excellent, the whole soundtrack was. i don't have a problem with synths, just horrible tinny ones that don't sound anything like what they are meant to. as a violinist, awful synth-strings make me die inside, hahaha. but the music on the trailer sounds good so i don't think it'll be a problem. i love the combination of an orchestra and choir with that industrial-sounding drumming, it's great.

[spyhopping]

I'd love to hear little imprints of the original soundtrack every now and again in DX3. All nostalgic :D

[J.CDenton]

I hope to find music cameos anyway! :)

[SemiAnonymous]

I personally wouldn't mind seeing some different composers making a song or two for the game, nothing huge, just to bring some variety. For example, I would **** myself if Michiru Yamane (Main Castlevania Composer, I'm a huge fan of the series and her work) did something as simple as a single battle theme. Koji Kondo (zelda) would be another interesting addition, maybe doing some city themes. Whoever did the Merceneries 2 music could be yet another choice, perhaps for...I dunno, something.
Of course, there are other talented people out there, I just can't think of them. It'd be great to see a couple of big names in the credits, but even if we don't, Alex Brandon would be quite nice.

[rhalibus]

if you go to Alexander Brandon's web site and listen to some of his singles, you might find that some of his songs sound very much like un-heard Deus Ex tracks! "Hope II" sounds like you just got into a fight with NSF troops...:)

I would love a single commissioned song from Alexander Brandon, maybe in the credits or a secret ending...:D

[Mr. K]

^^ Agreed! :D

I think Brandon needs to make an appearance. It's entirely possible that he is doing the music but can't say anything because it hasn't been announced yet.

NDA is king...

[spyhopping]

I really liked the Deus ex IW music. It fleshed out the game, gave it more personality

[Djenghis]

I still listen to the DX1 soundtrack. It's just terribly good, especially HONG KONG and UNATCO.

DX2 soundtrack sucks, i'm sorry, i don't even remember the tiniest bit of a melody from DX2 :(.

Tips:
NO EPIC ORCHESTRA SOUNDTRACK, oh plss no
NO INFECTED MUSHROOM KIND OF TECHNO, that's horrible
Just stay close to the DX1 soundtrack

[spyhopping]

I do prefer deus ex 1 music of course. But I still think IW had something going for it. Go listen to the herons loft track (the full version) or the Cairo music. Maybe not for everyone, but I like it :)

[rhalibus]

The Heron's Loft track, with it's soft ambient piano music, was really beautiful. I listened to all the IW tracks recently and I remember the music to JC's lair very distinctly...

I liked the background most when it was ambient, and didn't interfere with listening for footsteps or other audio cues.

I also believe that fight music is overrated! :) I think the music should stop when the fighting starts, to give more psychological intensity to the fight...

[GmanPro]

^^ Nah. Fight music is awesome and you know it :rasp:

[Radius86]

I dunno...

This thing could work both ways, in my opinion . Maybe some sort of way in which melee combat has no music, and gunplay has fight music.

That way we can hear bones crunch :rasp:

Wow, I just realised how disturbingly morbid I can be when talking games. :eek:

[nsf001]

if you go to Alexander Brandon's web site and listen to some of his singles, you might find that some of his songs sound very much like un-heard Deus Ex tracks! "Hope II" sounds like you just got into a fight with NSF troops...:)

Yeah! The"Hope II" is very impressive.:p

[Necros]

I think Brandon needs to make an appearance. It's entirely possible that he is doing the music but can't say anything because it hasn't been announced yet.
Well, he is at an other company now, so it may not be easy to work out. Though that didn't stop Ion Storm from stealing Eric Brosius to put him to work in Thief 3. :D Anyway, like many of you I too hope that he will at least have one track in the game.

[qJohnnyp]

Alex doesn't work at Obsidian anymore.

http://www.clubsilicononline.com/2009/01/back-to-where-we-belong.html

Maybe Eidos will hire Heatwave Interactive to work on Deus Ex 3 sound?

[GmanPro]

Awww man you got me all excited there for a moment. :(

[qJohnnyp]

Well, Texas is kind of far away from Montreal...

[Lilith]

Question is there any official statement?

If not can I request that it be put forward that we all ***** and moan, till we're given what we want. Some Alexander Brandon involvement for the score, even if only an advisory one.

Screw HQ, go at them with forks till they give you the budget to make the music brilliant.

A great game is a collection of winrar, the music was winrar.

You need sufficient winrar to make winrar.

Alexander Brandon a winrar is you :)

[qJohnnyp]

EA LA got Frank Klepacki to work on Red Alert 3 even though Frank works at a different company, Petroglyph.
Alex left Obsidian to work in an independent game audio development company. The situation seems to be much easier for Eidos than EA. Hire Heatwave to work on the audio if they can't get Alex alone to work on DX3... Fans want Alex. For me, his music is essential for a great Deus Ex experience, as is Klepacki's for Command&Conquer.

It seems to be a great opportunity for Eidos to please the fans and make a better game (Rene, are you aware of this new situation? Will you pass it on higher?). Currently it's all speculation. And I don't think anything official will be stated, by Eidos or Alex, for some time.
And even if Alex says he doesn't work on the game, well... so did say Klepacki about RA3.

Oh, and to add more to the speculation, other acceptable composers:
Yoko Kanno and Origa are a fun idea, though overall style of the GitS SAC soundtrack wouldn't fit Deus Ex. Still the main theme with Origa's vocals would be fantastic!
Jesper Kyd is great, especially if you remember his work on Unreal Tournement 3. That game may have little to do with Deus Ex but the musical style would actually fit a lot, especially stuff like Mekalopolis or Lockdown.
Kyd's partner in UT3 was Rom Di Prisco, who in my opinion, would be a much better choice for Deus Ex. His electronic sounds are fantastic, you could check them out here: http://www.romdiprisco.com/
He does know Alex Brandon's, Andrew Sega's and Michiel van den Bos' styles (all those guys made great mod tracks for Deus Ex and Unreal series among others) and did remixes of their tracks, which are just as good as the originals:
Michiel's 'Forgone Destruction' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVNhrQcz1A
Alex's 'Go Down' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QhWWJHS24
Necros' 'Mechanism Eight' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alyKr2VIOA

[Stedmister]

Jack Wall be good, as well as Tommy Tellintino(sp?) but I love to seen alax back, I thought Yoko Kanoo be good, there were a few tracks by hear that reminded me of the Cathedral level in DX1

[Necros]

For me, his music is essential for a great Deus Ex experience.
I wouldn't go that far but yes, I'd love to hear his music again. :)
Jesper Kyd is great...
Kyd's partner in UT3 was Rom Di Prisco, who in my opinion, would be a much better choice for Deus Ex. His electronic sounds are fantastic, you could check them out here: http://www.romdiprisco.com/
Yeah, both of them are excellent, it would be great to have one of them working on DX3.
Well, Texas is kind of far away from Montreal...
So...? These days that isn't really a problem.

[MattColes]

I would hunt down vangelis (blade runner), alexander brandon (deus ex) and Kenji Kawai (ghost in the shell movies) to do the soundtrack and because the game is doing a little bit of a classical renaissance thing i would get rob dougan in there too

[MaxxQ1]

While I love the idea of Vangelis (Cosmos, Chariots of Fire, Antartica:rasp: ), I don't think EM has enough money to entice him to work on their soundtrack. I'm not trying to say that Vangelis is greedy, but I'm sure any fee he charged would be more than their budget would allow.

Costs aside, I can't think of anyone who would be a more perfect replacement for Brandon. Then again, I may be biased, since I've been listening to his music since the late seventies.

[KaiTenSatsuma]

How about certain locales that play music from the 90's-2000 and call them "Golden Oldies"? :)

Or like in Demolition Man, plays the different jingles :lol:

The music in DX was pretty good, I'll admit to that too, but with music it really depends on the setting, time of day and situation doesn't it?

[qJohnnyp]

Kenji Kawai

He's very versatile as he also did the Ring movie soundtracks, and stuff like Ranma 1/2... So maybe he'd do good in a videogame OST. Still, if you want a track like 'Making of a Cyborg', you mustn't look far (as closer to Montreal). Check out James Hannigan ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGoPdXSSEdc

Vangelis

Frank Klepacki would be more... accessible. He did the Blade Runner pc game soundtrack after all.

[MattColes]

Yeah Frank Klepacki did good work with the blade runner game, but as a dream, vangelis would rock!

I could see James Hannigan as you pointed out, working for the oriental areas of the game. That track you posted the link to is very cool.

[APostlELite]

Graphics, can't by any means, make me accept a game with bad gameplay.

I can withstand bad graphics, when gameplay is good,
but i can never withstand bad gameplay, even if graphics are super!

I agree wholeheartedly -> RA3 Cough, cough.:mad2: Maybe DX:IW

[APostlELite]

Yeah Frank Klepacki did good work with the blade runner game, but as a dream, vangelis would rock!

I could see James Hannigan as you pointed out, working for the oriental areas of the game. That track you posted the link to is very cool.

Are u sure Frank Klepacki is suited to do DX3 music? He is mainly good with RTS games?

[qJohnnyp]

Are u sure Frank Klepacki is suited to do DX3 music? He is mainly good with RTS games?

No, he is a very versatile composer and did games in other genres, as well as his own band and solo work

[hem dazon 90]

I ment gamaplay above graphics...

gamer 0004 optimistic:eek: what has caused this unprecedented turn of events pray tell

[gamer0004]

gamer 0004 optimistic:eek: what has caused this unprecedented turn of events pray tell

That was before the new info was released... Was here on this forum from the very first minute - have actually even posted on the first forum which after some time was completely spammed with porn ads.
But yeah, I was ver positive about DX3 in the beginning. I mean those Da Vinci stuff does match the theme of DX, but who could've thought they would actually use it in-game? Yikes...

[Alex Jacobson]

I would love it if EM got Alexander Brandon to do the soundtrack for DX3. I still listen to Deus Ex music on a regular basis and it's hard for me to imagine a Deus Ex game that did not involve Alexander Brandon.

[MyImmortal]

If not Brandon, then my vote still goes with Jesper Kyd. :cool:
http://www.jesperkyd.com/

[WhatsHisFace]

If not Brandon, then my vote still goes with Jesper Kyd. :cool:
http://www.jesperkyd.com/

Jesper Kyd was amazing back in the Hitman 2/Freedom Fighters days... but as of late he's dilapidated into strange, electro-synth mumblings.

[MyImmortal]

Jesper Kyd was amazing back in the Hitman 2/Freedom Fighters days... but as of late he's dilapidated into strange, electro-synth mumblings.

I assume you are referring to his latest project? If so, what is it?
Only 'as of late', was Assassin's Creed which I wouldn't describe as electro-synth mumblings. :p

He's very versatile - as any good composer should be. If he was asked to do the music for DX3, I'm sure he'd capture the atmosphere brilliantly. :cool:

[WhatsHisFace]

I assume you are referring to his latest project? If so, what is it?
Only 'as of late', was Assassin's Creed which I wouldn't describe as electro-synth mumblings. :p

He's very versatile - as any good composer should be. If he was asked to do the music for DX3, I'm sure he'd capture the atmosphere brilliantly. :cool:
Assassin's Creed didn't have any truly great songs as Freedom Fighters or Hitman 2 did. There's the "getaway" song which is probably the stand-out "hit" of that game, but everything else is very drab and mundane musically.

Kane and Lynch was a game that didn't need a pompous score, but it could have done with more than Kyd gave it.

His work on "The Club" can go to hell, in all respects. His little involvement with SplinterCell: Chaos Theory didn't produce one great song in that game, either.

If he did the Deus Ex 3 score, I'd expect more of the same trash he's been putting forth in the last four years. :(

[MyImmortal]

I love all of Kyd's game and movie compositions, I don't find any of them mundane. :cool:
No arguments over your opinion, of course... we all have our own taste. :)

[WhatsHisFace]

No arguments over your opinion
Wouldn't you just rather have an all-out flame-war with me, over a topic that won't even have relevance to the final game? It's done wonders for some of the threads here...

[MyImmortal]

Wouldn't you just rather have an all-out flame-war with me, over a topic that won't even have relevance to the final game? It's done wonders for some of the threads here...

LOL, no thank you, I'll have to decline that offer. :D

[Mr. K]

^^ You know, If that ever happens I will be forced to merge all the flame wars into one huge battleground thread! And then it will be the biggest flame war to end all wars. :nut:

[Radius86]

^^ You know, If that ever happens I will be forced to merge all the flame wars into one huge battleground thread! And then it will be the biggest flame war to end all wars. :nut:

Under the circumstances, not an entirely bad idea. A nice little free for all, no rules thread filled with GEP guns, flamethrowers and skul guns for everyone!

[WhatsHisFace]

I will not spare the life of anyone in support of:


the third person cover system.
the lousy, watered-down stealth model taken from MGS.


Those who support regenerating health... get some mercy. ;)

[GmanPro]

^^ Well, I support none of the three :thumb:

My favorite composer is Jeremy Soule, but having said that, I don't want him doing Deus Ex. His music is too epic sounding.

Of course I would LOVE to see Alexander Brandon come back to do it. His music has that Deus Ex 'feel' to it and I think DX3 would suffer from a lack of his style of music.

Jack Wall and Sam Hulick made a pretty fricken sweet soundtrack for Mass Effect, I gotta hand it to them. Though again, they would have to adapt their personal style to resemble, at least somewhat, the DX1 soundtrack. And I don't know about you guys, but I think that in the end Mr Brandon would be a better choice for doing it.

[MyImmortal]

^^ You know, If that ever happens I will be forced to merge all the flame wars into one huge battleground thread! And then it will be the biggest flame war to end all wars. :nut:

Good idea!!! :cool: :D

[jordan_a]

Did Jeremy Soul composed Fallout 3's Exploration musics? They are fantastic, though the Battle ones really suck.

[MyImmortal]

Yes, I do like Jeremy Soule. :)

I wonder if EM can reveal soon who the composer will actually be. :cool:

[WhatsHisFace]

Yes, I do like Jeremy Soule. :)

I wonder if EM can reveal soon who the composer will actually be. :cool:

Hopefully it's not Tommy Talarico. :D

[Serendip1ty]

Do you guys know The Shell by Alexander Brandon?

He released it for free on his blog as a tribute to Ghost In The Shell and guess what.. it's amazing!

You can get it here:

The Shell - Alexander Brandon (http://brandonfamily.blogs.com/club_silicon/files/TheShell.mp3)

The track breaths Deus Ex, you should definitely check it out!

[GmanPro]

Ok that settles it. WE NEED ALEXANDER BRANDON TO DO THE SOUNDTRACK!!1!

I say we have a poll...

[Serendip1ty]

I agree 100% but sadly i don't think a poll will help..

[jordan_a]

It looks like several pieces of music into one file.

Thanks for sharing.

[nsf001]

Alex! Get Back!!!!!!!

[GmanPro]

^^ Seconded !!

[jordan_a]

Maybe he'll come if we write a poem.

[Serendip1ty]

Here's (http://www.clubsilicononline.com/2006/09/podcast_single__1.html) the post on his blog if somebody is interested.

[Mr. K]

I say we take up a petition.

[nsf001]

I say we take up a petition.

YES! Immediately!

[GmanPro]

I say we take up a petition.

Yes indeed! We need to get organized! Kinda why I suggested a poll btw...

[InGroove2]

Jack Wall be good, as well as Tommy Tellintino(sp?) but I love to seen alax back, I thought Yoko Kanoo be good, there were a few tracks by hear that reminded me of the Cathedral level in DX1

no no no, neither of those dudes. wall is totally wrong, in my opinion. i relaly hated what he did with MYST... it was my feeling that he just didn't get it.

from what i've heard, i don't know if he'd GET DX either.

[Daniel_Smith]

hey, guys. Can someone tell me who is Sivac Drac then if DX1 soundtrack was written by A. Brandon?

I wanted to say that exactcly THAT OST was amazing. Honestly it IS the best game OST ever... I'd be very very VERY glad if i see something at least close to the DX1 OST.

Theese themes make me crazy
Area51 Bunker Music
Battery Park Music
Credits Music
Deus Ex Club Mix
Endgame1 Music
Endgame2 Music
Endgame3 Music
Hong Kong Club2 Music
Hong Kong Streets Music (hecking amazing!)
Hong Kong Canal Music (SOoo deep)
Lebedev Airfield Music (oh hech that's the one of the biggest - both exploration & fight)
Liberty Island Music
MJ12 Music
NYC Streets (YEAH BABY)
NYC Streets 2
NYC Bar
Oceanlab2 Music (real bomb)
Paris Club Music
Paris Club 2 Music
Paris Chateu
Quotes Music
Title (zomg - kill me)
Training (SO atmospheric)
Tunnels Music
UNATCO Music (WOWOWOWOW this is tha banger. kicks off the most of real club music, progressive house for sure. adore it)
Versalife Music (my another love)
UNATCO Return Music

and better the music in DX3 to be like theese masterpieces... let them to be another but to have the same style. None other music could be so deusexish and cyberpunkish. OST of The Game was one of the major things that created The Atmiosphere. The music in DX2 was not bad... Even good. BUT is was nothing comparing with the DX1 OST... And i can't understand why it was so...

PS. Such a "midi-style" tracks in DX1 suited ideally. Compositions in DX universe have to be as more digital as they colud be. Orchestral versions never would not be so good.

[Mr. K]

Sivac Drac did a piano versions of each of the DX tracks. Very good stuff.

[Daniel_Smith]

not officially?

[nsf001]

not officially?

NOPE

[jordan_a]

I can't believe no one has mentioned The Witcher's soundtrack.

JUST LISTEN TO IT!

[GmanPro]

The Witcher's music is very good too. Very moody and ambient. Problem is, I don't think whoever did that music can get the same feel that Brandon pulled off with DX1. Totally different genres of music really...

[gamer0004]

Sivac Drac did a piano versions of each of the DX tracks. Very good stuff.

Not all of them, if I remember correctly...

[payne]

the last madonna album released 2020 AD:whistle:

[BlackGhost]

IMDB ''confirmes'' that Alexander will be responsible for the music:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319708/fullcredits#cast

I really hope he will be making the music.. it would be the reason for me to buy the game! No Brandon music = no DX-game! Especially his music in the second game sets the mood.
Perhaps we could spam his mailbox to convince him that he must compose the music once more ?

[nsf001]

IMDB ''confirmes'' that Alexander will be responsible for the music:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319708/fullcredits#cast

I really hope he will be making the music.. it would be the reason for me to buy the game! No Brandon music = no DX-game! Especially his music in the second game sets the mood.
Perhaps we could spam his mailbox to convince him that he must compose the music once more ?

WOW!

[MyImmortal]

OMG, yeah, seems like this is confirmed! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Also, I updated Adam Jensen thread with details of leading voice actor, Elias Toufexis. To discuss, go here:
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=80851&page=11

[-=fox=-]

Oh yeah, this is great!

[BlackGhost]

OMG, yeah, seems like this is confirmed! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Also, I updated Adam Jensen thread with details of leading voice actor, Elias Toufexis. To discuss, go here:
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=80851&page=11

Well, confirmed.. IMDB has it's reputation to be unaccurate about unreleased films/games (no offense: it's real hard to index something which doesn't excist yet).
But I think it's trustable enough else it would say ''rumored.''

Does anybody have an idea to contact Alex himself ?
I mailed him last night but I did the same some while ago, but he didn't mail me back.
Perhaps we could all spam his blogs at Club Silicon (http://www.clubsilicononline.com/) ?
Or does anyone have a better idea?
We have to stand firm together, it worked for Jablonsky's music in Transformers... Luckely we're not dealing with Disney.. haha

[-=fox=-]

That email address doesn't look like if it's meant for business related stuff - no wonder he didn't reply. Please don't spam him anywhere just because you can't wait for the official announcement.

[MyImmortal]

That email address doesn't look like if it's meant for business related stuff - no wonder he didn't reply. Please don't spam him anywhere just because you can't wait for the official announcement.

I agree. That wouldn't be a cool or respectful thing to do. :eek:

Alex has already posted on this forum anyway (in this thread)... we should wait for him to return if and when he chooses to. :)

[spyhopping]

If that's his personal email then should it be in a forum? I'd be reluctant to post my own, never mind someone else's. And never mind Alexander Brandon's!

[MyImmortal]

I like how the mods clearly see the email address, but they leave it up there.

You can Google and find emails for just about anyone, so the real issue is not that mods should delete addresses in this thread but that members should refrain from spamming them.
Like kids let loose in a sweet-shop, we need to learn to discipline ourselves. :p
Some will excel... and others will fail miserably. I have confidence that our members fit into the former category. :cool:

[BlackGhost]

You can Google and find emails for just about anyone, so the real issue is not that mods should delete addresses in this thread but that members should refrain from spamming them.
Like kids let loose in a sweet-shop, we need to learn to discipline ourselves. :p
Some will excel... and others will fail miserably. I have confidence that our members fit into the former category. :cool:

Great, now I'm seen as one annoying little fan.. lol
But I get the picture. I didn't mean literally spam him either... What I meant was that he should be contacted by more than one person; to convince him to do the music!
Anyway, I removed his mail-address because it's not real polite.

Also, I read his response here, but I'm not sure it's him, anyone could've made that profile.

[MyImmortal]

Great, now I'm seen as one annoying little fan.. lol
But I get the picture. I didn't mean literally spam him either... What I meant was that he should be contacted by more than one person; to convince him to do the music!
Anyway, I removed his mail-address because it's not real polite.

Also, I read his response here, but I'm not sure it's him, anyone could've made that profile.

Hehe, annoying in a nice way... so its all cool. :)

I don't think we should contact him at all (spam or not). He already knows that many DX fans want him to do the music. Goes without saying really.

Sure, it could be anyone who created the profile but my hunch is that it is him. Besides, you will find that most bogus profiles are just attention-seeking muppets and they cannot help but 'act out' their false identity by posting a lot more. The fact that Alex only posted twice (the second being to give credit to another) pretty much leads me, personally, to believe it is a genuine profile.

[Mr. K]

^^ Don't you fall into said category of members? :scratch: You must not have a lot of faith in yourself. :p

[Mr. K]

I would advise you not to insult other folks you don't even know, and to have even a modicum of faith that the fans of EM's game aren't completely retarded. And no, that is not an invitation to shift the "retarded" moniker over to EM themselves.

[AaronJ]

Hey, I just read the Amon Tobin lives in Montreal. PHONE HIM UP BOYS.

[Mr. K]

XD Yeah, I kinda missed blocking that one, didn't I.

[Mr. K]

Good. :)

[Digerati]

I've neglected to post so far, but wanted to add one of my favorite elements of Deus Ex besides the gameplay was the music. Coincidentally another one of my favorite soundtracks is 'A History of Unreal Music (http://vgmdb.net/album/4587)' which not surprisingly is the work of Alexander Brandon and others. So of course I would like to hear music of this type in the new game as well.

I am no expert but I get the sense from reading his blog and posts, Brandon believes the industry has moved away from MOD style music. If you read the sample info from some of the umx files he hints at this, also the free album on his site 'eras end' makes it pretty clear. However from his recent post at clubsilicononline he indicates it's his strength. IMO the industry and new gamers probably think MOD music is too old school or sounds cheap.

I think the type of music we hear in Deus Ex 3 will depend on what the executives decide: either to make a homage to the fans or try to appeal to new customers. IMO the former is a safer bet, this is the third game of the franchise which is happening because the original game is a classic, and is the only reason the second game didnt fail. If the players like the new game they will produce positive reviews, word of mouth, and sales. If they dislike it, the game will receive negative attention and will not produce ongoing sales, and the studios reputation will suffer.

Look at Unreal Tournament 3 which suffers from trying to be new, and at World of Goo which is the #1 selling game right now and it costs more! If you want to win new customers, make a new game, don't pervert a good series. With so many games available, to be successful yours needs to be unique. If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

[AaronJ]

I think the type of music we hear in Deus Ex 3 will depend on what the executives decide: either to make a homage to the fans or try to appeal to new customers. IMO the former is a safer bet, this is the third game of the franchise which is happening because the original game is a classic, and is the only reason the second game didnt fail. If the players like the new game they will produce positive reviews, word of mouth, and sales. If they dislike it, the game will receive negative attention and will not produce ongoing sales, and the studios reputation will suffer.

Look at Unreal Tournament 3 which suffers from trying to be new, and at World of Goo which is the #1 selling game right now and it costs more! If you want to win new customers, make a new game, don't pervert a good series. With so many games available, to be successful yours needs to be unique. If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

Hello, and welcome to the forums. Unfortunately, EM does not pay any attention to posts of this kind. From now on, the mods (or other people that are 100% sure this game will be the second coming) will refer to you as a whiner. Enjoy your stay.

[Mr. K]

Nice post Digerati. :) I think we'll hear a combination of MOD style music and more contemporary orchestra music.

[AaronJ]

Nice post Digerati. :) I think we'll hear a combination of MOD style music and more contemporary orchestra music.

If that's the case, we've got nothing to worry about. Although, I hope they also blend it little bits of the original DX music into it, like in the trailer.

[MyImmortal]

...From now on, the mods (or other people that are 100% sure this game will be the second coming) will refer to you as a whiner. Enjoy your stay.

You'll have to speak for yourself mate. I have NEVER called anyone a whiner - or any other name come to that. :p

[BlackGhost]

Hehe, annoying in a nice way... so its all cool. :)

I don't think we should contact him at all (spam or not). He already knows that many DX fans want him to do the music. Goes without saying really.

Sure, it could be anyone who created the profile but my hunch is that it is him. Besides, you will find that most bogus profiles are just attention-seeking muppets and they cannot help but 'act out' their false identity by posting a lot more. The fact that Alex only posted twice (the second being to give credit to another) pretty much leads me, personally, to believe it is a genuine profile.


Thanks:) and you're right.. I also think Alex knows he's wanted for the score. However.. to speak up has success, like with the score of the Transformers.
But it's best not to bother him: he's probably busy with more important things.

True, I read the correction to credit Michiel. However, it was already known that Michiel wrote it (I think it was in the file) and you can hear it a bit too! It's fun to identify the composer, like you can do with the Beatles (Lennon/ McCartney).

So is there any news on the DX3 music just yet?
And how big is the chance they're going to use a real-life orchestra this time? I hope they won't though!

[BlackGhost]

I've neglected to post so far, but wanted to add one of my favorite elements of Deus Ex besides the gameplay was the music. Coincidentally another one of my favorite soundtracks is 'A History of Unreal Music (http://vgmdb.net/album/4587)' which not surprisingly is the work of Alexander Brandon and others. So of course I would like to hear music of this type in the new game as well.

This was a nice compilation, but the most important tunes were not included. Anyone remember Spire? The battle mix of Dig? Or the Ending Title? Or... I could go on forever :P haha
I think it was a real waste actually; they could've done better!

[spyhopping]

What about 'Save me' from unreal? Amazing track, there's a great remastered version too.

[MyImmortal]

Thanks:) and you're right.. I also think Alex knows he's wanted for the score. However.. to speak up has success, like with the score of the Transformers.
But it's best not to bother him: he's probably busy with more important things.

True, I read the correction to credit Michiel. However, it was already known that Michiel wrote it (I think it was in the file) and you can hear it a bit too! It's fun to identify the composer, like you can do with the Beatles (Lennon/ McCartney).

So is there any news on the DX3 music just yet?
And how big is the chance they're going to use a real-life orchestra this time? I hope they won't though!


Well, to let everyone know - nothing has been finalised/confirmed yet as to who will be the composer.
Therefore, further discussion must remain mere speculation... until further notice. :)

[AaronJ]

jesper

*******

Kyd

[BlackGhost]

What about 'Save me' from unreal? Amazing track, there's a great remastered version too.

That's a real good song.. nice action cue! However, it's Unreal Tournament, not Unreal 1 from 1998...


No Jesper Kyd! I'll boycott the game.. :P He screwed up UT3 and his remix of Mech8 was more than an insult to the original version!
If Eidos can afford it, they should hire Steve Jablonsky.. Mark Isham could be an option too, if you listen to his score for Crash! hmm.. Or a real wild option: Chicane...

[WhatsHisFace]

I actually wouldn't mind Jesper Kyd, but I'd prefer Alexander Brandon.

Further, Mass Effect's soundtrack had a lot of songs that sounded like they could have come from Deus Ex... just an observation.

[WhatsHisFace]

The Deus Ex 3 soundtrack is just going to be DMX.
Eidos Chairmen have read this post, concluded that it would make the game sell an additional million copies, and have contacted the DMX label, requesting rights to use his music in their game.

[BlackGhost]

The Deus Ex 3 soundtrack is just going to be DMX.

What's DMX? Like in, the rapper DMX?

[AaronJ]

What's DMX? Like in, the rapper DMX?

No, it actually stands for Death Metal Xylophones.

[BlackGhost]

No, it actually stands for Death Metal Xylophones.

Ahhh.. I see.. perhaps they'll do the same as with NG Resonance in the second game which is very original :)

[Vasarto]

One of the GREATEST parts of Deus Ex 1 is the music IMO. Do you think they should bring back any of the old music from that game and make it a bit well...better sounding then before?

The stuff I want to hear again is most importantly these two things.

1.The title theme - IF they change it I am gonna be pissed! That includes all the sounds it made when the Ion storm and Eidos things came up leading to the music!

Why do you ask? Well because even though they are getting rid of a lot of rpg elements in the game while still having them Source= IGN.Com.
I believe whatever they do to the game. It will keep a nostalgic feel to the game for the old players.


2.New York Tracks. If they let us go back to New York...(Which they better damn well have) I want to hear some if not most of the old Music from the new york area redone. Remastered. Make it sound even BETTER!

OMG I HAVETA GO PLAY DEUS EX RIGHT NOW....
sorry....if you will excuse me I have to umm...take care of something!

[HouseOfPain]

Just got done clearing Liberty Island for the 1000th time, I love the music! Hopefully they will get some sweet tunes. ;)

[MyImmortal]

Hopefully we will have some confirmation soon of who the composer is going to be. I'm eager to find out who it is...

[Ashpolt]

Well, IMDB seems to think he's the composer for DX3... (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0999472/)

OK, it's hardly proof positive, but they've got to get their info from somewhere....right?

[Capital_G]

I dont want to hear any music from the first Deus Ex except for the intro song.

And I don't want an orchestra too. A lot of game those day have that kind of music, (Halo 1,2,3, killzone, god of war 1,2, name it), so NO !

new songs

[a house]

Give it to Amon Tobin. He lives in Montreal and has done the Splinter Cell soundtrack already.

[MyImmortal]

Well, IMDB seems to think he's the composer for DX3... (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0999472/)

OK, it's hardly proof positive, but they've got to get their info from somewhere....right?

Yeah, that info on IMDB has been there a while... its just that nothing has been finalised/confirmed yet.

I dont want to hear any music from the first Deus Ex except for the intro song.

And I don't want an orchestra too. A lot of game those day have that kind of music, (Halo 1,2,3, killzone, god of war 1,2, name it), so NO !

new songs

I doubt it will be the same music... just possibly in the style.

[a house]

Doesn't Alexander Brandon only make that old synth music? I wasn't really feeling any of the DX tracks apart from the main menu and Liberty Island ones. Would much rather hear Amon Tobin and licensed club music by X-fusion or someone like that.

[MyImmortal]

You can check some of his style out here:
http://www.alexanderbrandon.net/music/erasend.html

[Meta_X]

I would be totally fine if he was the composer, his tracks fit the style perfectly.

[MyImmortal]

I agree. :)

[van_HellSing]

Well, IMDB seems to think he's the composer for DX3... (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0999472/)

OK, it's hardly proof positive, but they've got to get their info from somewhere....right?

Nope, imdb works pretty much like wikipedia, anyone can add info, and it's usually not verified unless it's a really, really big title. Thus, fanwankery and wishful thinking often erupts.

[MyImmortal]

^
Yeah, IMDB the same set up as Wiki.


Well, seems like our Mr K, man of the moment, has heard some DX3 music. :cool:
I guess he's not at liberty to disclose who the composer is (if he knows). But I'm sure it will be announced in good time. Hope it is Alex though.

[TrickyVein]

I'll always know Alex for his Jazz Jackrabbit 2 tracks. Those were great.

DX tracks, while good, did become noticeably repetitive (think Hong Kong, ocean labs). The more ambient ones like liberty island, the Paris catacombs and MJ12 labs were perfect. Don't forget UNATCO and my favourite I think, the versalife labs in HK.

You know, no, all of the DX tracks were good. Except maybe for the club music in Paris. But they were fun too in a corny kind of way.

So, Mr. Brandon all the way.

[GmanPro]

^^ Actually, you know. I don't think Mr. Brandon did any of the club tracks in Deus Ex. And I think the main reason the music felt sort of repetitive in areas like Hong Kong was because of the frequent load screens. That market area was pretty small, and when you pass through that loading section between the compound and Tong's lab, the same track starts up again from the beginning. So, bigger levels + no load screens = awesome ambiance/music. And DX3 is going to have just that :thumb:

[Mr. K]

So, bigger levels + no load screens = awesome ambiance/music. And DX3 is going to have just that :thumb:

Right on. :cool:

[pHdeus]

Since I have been interested in this since I joined and concluded that the music was part of the game's DNA, I ask that you start a new thread with the annoucement of the composer, when you are able to reveal his or her name.

:o

[K^2]

To increase sales projections, Eidos Montreal has commissioned Hannah Montana to provide the soundtrack for this game.
Lets make sure we are on the same page. That would warrant rioting with the torches, Molotovs, and whatever sharp objects we could get our hands on. Right? I wouldn't be going overboard with that?

[Mr. K]

Lets make sure we are on the same page. That would warrant rioting with the torches, Molotovs, and whatever sharp objects we could get our hands on. Right? I wouldn't be going overboard with that?

Not overboard at all. In fact I don't think your going far enough. I'd break out the rocket launchers and flamethrowers.

[Necros]

I don't think Mr. Brandon did any of the club tracks in Deus Ex.
Yeah, Reeves Gabrels did those. I loved them too. :D

[GmanPro]

I have all of them + complete DX soundtrack remastered on my PC. The soundtrack came with my copy of DX GOTY version. I hope that the DX3 soundtrack is going to be good enough for me to want to have it on my PC for casual listening. I also have the soundtracks for Mass Effect and every infinity engine game.

[Mr. K]

I have all of them + complete DX soundtrack remastered on my PC. The soundtrack came with my copy of DX GOTY version. I hope that the DX3 soundtrack is going to be good enough for me to want to have it on my PC for casual listening. I also have the soundtracks for Mass Effect and every infinity engine game.

You won't be disappointed. :cool:

[Necros]

:cool: :thumbsup: But you're ABsolutely sure, right? :D

[facepalm]

OK Mr. K, I just have to ask this.

Did you hear the new title theme? If so, what impressions did it leave? Is it powerful and epic like DX1's theme, or a bit more slow and moody like DX:IW's theme? Pick two words that you think describe it the best.

[Mr. K]

OK Mr. K, I just have to ask this.

Did you hear the new title theme? If so, what impressions did it leave? Is it powerful and epic like DX1's theme, or a bit more slow and moody like DX:IW's theme? Pick two words that you think describe it the best.

Oooh, should I answer this? Hmm. :D

[facepalm]

Oooh, should I answer this? Hmm. :D

Pretty please?

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p167/anthem2521/Shrek_2_Cat-eyes_L-01.jpg

[a house]

Oooh, should I answer this? Hmm. :D
Yes.

[van_HellSing]

Oooh, should I answer this? Hmm. :D

Is this a rhetorical question?

[GmanPro]

You won't be disappointed. :cool:

Good, good ...

Oooh, should I answer this? Hmm. :D

I don't see why not. It would just be your opinion on whether it sounds fast or slow

[MyImmortal]

I can't wait to hear clips... hopefully we'll get some soon. :cool:

[Mr. K]

Okay. I didn't hear the entire title theme, but I heard a part of it. How to describe it? Epic and powerful like DX1, with an extra dose of awesome.

[GmanPro]

Now your starting to sound like Rene :D

[facepalm]

Back to the roots, I can dig that.

Oh, and
with an extra dose of awesome
I saw that coming from a mile away! :lol:

[van_HellSing]

Epic and powerful

:D

like DX1

:hmm:

with an extra dose of awesome.

:scratch:

[MyImmortal]

LMAO, every single word scrutinised... in true Deus Ex style. :cool: :D

[GmanPro]

Well guys, I do not think it will be Alex Brandon, but that doesn't mean that it wont be good. Because apparently its going to be awesome. :cool: :D

[Mr. K]

Starting to sound like René? Dammit!

Well guys, I do not think it will be Alex Brandon, but that doesn't mean that it wont be good. Because apparently its going to be awesome. :cool: :D

Well, you have to understand there are different types of awesome. There's Firefly/Serenity awesome, There's DX 1 theme awesome, and there's Bruce Campbell's chin awesome. This is sorta a mixture of all three but with more emphasis on the middle one.

But all that aside, if I had to pick two words, faceplam, it would be Epic and Powerful. So there you go. :)

[a house]

with an extra dose of awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYT0YvQ3hs

[GmanPro]

.. and there's Bruce Campbell's chin awesome...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PE/333592~Army-of-Darkness-Posters.jpg

I have that poster.

Win. :cool:

[a house]

Ah, chainsaw... the great communicator!

[van_HellSing]

So how did we get from DX music to chainsaw goodness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainsawGood) again?

[Mr. K]

So how did we get from DX music to chainsaw goodness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainsawGood) again?

My poor use of a word > Awesome > Bruce Campbell > Chainsaws.

Now we go back on topic. Or else.

[teknikal-vision]

Well if it isn't Alexander Brandon, I certainly hope the composer really understands Deus Ex 1's music style. I loved the orchestral version of the DX theme from Deus Ex: The Conspiracy; if DX1's music style has to be updated for DX3 I'll be happy if it heads in that direction.

And from what you've vaguely mentioned, Mr. K, I have a gut feeling it might be heading it that direction. :D

PLEASE LET MY GUT BE RIGHT! XD

[rockyrr]

I hope he does the music ;)

[TSGarp]

I thought the idea behind DX2's music was very promising. I was especially fond of the music in the Emerald Suites. There were two ambient tracks there, which looped perfectly and were in the same tempo.

One loop played when you were just casually walking down the hotel's corridor, and a second, darker loop took over when you started doing things you weren't supposed to (like going to the roof). I thought these two loops blended very well together and made exploring the hotel a very involving experience.

I'd like to see this in DX3 again. Or at least some form of music interactivity.

[GmanPro]

I just hope that the music isn't as ambient as it was in IW. I want actual tunes to listen to. The backround ambiance works perfectly for Thief ... not so much for DX.

[JCD]

I just hope that the music isn't as ambient as it was in IW. I want actual tunes to listen to. The backround ambiance works perfectly for Thief ... not so much for DX.
If they don't bring Alexander Brandon, I hope they bring Jesper Kyd (Hitman) :D

[GmanPro]

Yeah, the Hitman tracks were pretty good.

My favorite use of music in a game is still DX by a wide margin, but the IE games all have epic music too! :D

Fallout music was good too, though a bit too ambient for my tastes. Lol, when I first played FEAR I was like, "WTF? This sounds like the Fallout soundtrack!"

[Irate Iguana]

Fallout music was good too, though a bit too ambient for my tastes.

It did work very well for creating that feel of the wasteland.

[JCD]

imho, Outcast still has the best music in a video game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M26n2gGV7FA), accompanied by the Protoss themes in Starcraft. Then I put Hitman/DX/Fallout/Bioshock/(maybe Dawn of War 2)/etc.

But some games, with almost no music at all, had some moments where music played and...it felt awesome. I still remember "Fur Elise" in that Nazi village in Medal of Honour...:cool:

[GmanPro]

But some games, with almost no music at all, had some moments where music played and...it felt awesome. I still remember "Fur Elise" in that Nazi village in Medal of Honour...:cool:

^^ This too. I love the use of music in Half Life. It only comes up a handfull of times in the whole game and it is sooo satisfying :D

[newmy51]

It's absolutely too late by now, but this would have made an excellent dx track.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Brown+Susan
the only track of theirs in existence it seems is one titled How We Used To Live.

i actually got up from what I was doing to see what the song was called (was playing on streaming radio) and immediately came here to post on it. it made me think of deus ex instantly. i've looked around for an .mp3 online but as of yet cannot find one. post here if you come up with something.

[gamer0004]

Morrowind had excellent music IMHO. And Oblivion too, actually. One of the few good things about TESIV.

[GmanPro]

^^ That's because its the same composer. Jeremy Soule. Who is totally awesome :cool: I love all his music.

[Ilves]

A full game score by William Orbit (http://www.williamorbit.com/blog/) would totaly and utterly satisfy all my cyberpunk needs..:D The man knows to use the sound of the past to create a vision of the future. http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/351/23417636gt0.gif

[spyhopping]

TNM's music is really good. I've been having a listen to it whilst working using an audio player that plays .ogg files. :thumb:

As for DX's more 'assertive' music vs. IW ambient music (I think Gman mentioned it somewhere above), I think a healthy mix of the two kinds would be great. Take the vandenberg and naval base music for DX1. Ambiance can fit perfectly with the environment, just like some of the IW tracks.

[Decard]

Pure cyberpunk. Mechanical, cold and mind blowing.

Psytech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsT85CcCwc4&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XGJ3OgBrw&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4311r-MSTI&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqbzD8pDis&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqbzD8pDis&fmt=18

EBM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRD2DDuGOd0&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPMhoH8EQmM&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQj-syygshQ&fmt=18


moar?

[TrickyVein]

yeah, nope, not at all. Sorry, couldn't be more off the mark

[Ninjerk]

Pretty much the opposite of what is good.

[JCD]

Old-school psychedelic in DX3? Nope.

I love some tracks from X-Dream/The Delta, but to have them in a DX game? Just no, they don't fit. The only thing from psy-trance I can imagine in DX3 could be a deep ambient remix of Liquid Skies' pads melody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=412wEoIyAB0) - and I am not so sure about that.

[Decard]

Old-school psychedelic in DX3? Nope.

I love some tracks from X-Dream/The Delta, but to have them in a DX game? Just no, they don't fit. The only thing from psy-trance I can imagine in DX3 could be a deep ambient remix of Liquid Skies' pads melody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=412wEoIyAB0) - and I am not so sure about that.

I agree, they don't fit. But I just wanted to share that awesome, cyberpunk related music : ) thats all

[Firepith]

If you guys can't get the original composer (his name escapes me at the moment), get Jesper Kyd. Every Jesper Kyd soundtrack is frosted, gilded, diamond-crusted gold.

[3nails4you]

If you guys can't get the original composer (his name escapes me at the moment), get Jesper Kyd. Every Jesper Kyd soundtrack is frosted, gilded, diamond-crusted gold.

Alexander Brandon. And don't you forget it.

EDIT: Jesper Kyd...he did Assassin's Creed soundtrack, right? He's done some good sounding stuff...sounds like he could definitely fit the bill for DX3 music.

[Unstoppable]

That was Jesper Kyd who is a very good composer. http://tracksounds.blogspot.com/2007/10/assassins-creed-soundtrack-by-jesper.html

Check out his webpage at http://www.jesperkyd.com

As for the soundtrack I just want it to be stellar like part one. Invisible War was meh except for the intro which was done well. It didn't have the fire that Deus Ex had however.

[Irate Iguana]

Jesper Kyd is the man behind all of the Hitman music. He does some really good stuff for those games.

[Sean D]

I think the "trackerness" of DX music is the key thing here.
It would be really cool to have what happened to Unreal Tournament. The first part, very much like DX, had tracker music soundtrack. The 2003/2004/III parts have really cool hardcore sh1te in them (yay Kevin Riepl!), but the "atmosphere" is in some way inherited from the first UT.

[jordan_a]

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AlexanderBrandon/20090802/2650/What_Makes_A_Good_Game_Platform.php

[TrickyVein]

hmm. microscoring is good for some types of games, UT3 not being one of them. music that evolves with and reflects the players situation can be very effective and downright cool especially in adventure games, but when it comes to arena fragging you need a track that will repeat and keep the action going, not lull and get boring when you haven't bumped into anyone for a while.

come to think of it, did invisi war have fighting music/conversation music like DX did? Haven't played it for a while - that was one of the strength's of DX's score, i think, finding that someone (like tracer tong) you were looking for and having this release come through in the change of the music - this would be welcome in DX3.

[Ninjerk]

IW's music was really subdued and ambient.

[PenguinsFriend]

You know what's so funny, ALEXANDER BRANDON posted in here (either page 1 or 2 of this thread) and not one of you noticed...

too funny.

[gamer0004]

You know what's so funny, ALEXANDER BRANDON posted in here (either page 1 or 2 of this thread) and not one of you noticed...

too funny.

I did, but I just couldn't believe it was actually him and just thought he was an impostor.

[PenguinsFriend]

I did, but I just couldn't believe it was actually him and just thought he was an impostor.

LOL - well from his post it did seem real enough for me (look at the join date and the number of posts - you think they guys just be luriking this long? No, I think someone did send him an email about it and so he stopped by to leave his thoughts).

[serrath]

:confused:

Other than the teaser clip and the engine, we know nothing about this game. Nothing.

We also know not one thing about the team as it is newly formed and this is their first game.

On what is your confidence based, pray tell?

Oh that's why people think there's been no news! They just forgot everything but those two facts!

[gamer0004]

Oh that's why people think there's been no news! They just forgot everything but those two facts!

Look at the date... 06-2007...

I was feeling quite positive towards DX3 at that time, based on what we had (some interviews with D'Astous (yes, so manipulate this post... really :hmm:) and the trailer and some other snippets of information).

What does intrigue me though is whether he knew StormFront is or was a neo-Nazi website.

I'm manipulating your post by request. -Mr. K

[BlazeL]

What an old thread! Reminds me the time when i was lurking here for one of the first times... :)

Off topic, but i have found some interesting Alexander Brandon music recently, and probably not everybody here knows them, so i link them. I think these are worthy to listen to everyone who liked Deus Ex's or Unreal's music.

The Shell (http://www.clubsilicononline.com/files/TheShell.mp3) (GitS inspired track from ClubSilicon),
and Alexander Brandon has a Facebook site (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alexander-Brandon/96845182620?v=wall&viewas=1316652015#/pages/Alexander-Brandon/96845182620?v=info&viewas=1316652015), where you could listen to his self published album, Era's End that consists of 10 great track.

[Necros]

You know what's so funny, ALEXANDER BRANDON posted in here (either page 1 or 2 of this thread) and not one of you noticed...

too funny.
Nope, some of us noticed that. :)

[Kataki]

I just realized, Nine Inch Nails - Year zero is pretty much a perfect album for Deus Ex, lyrical and the fact its industrial and has an almost cyber punk feel. All the little promotional sound clips sound like something that you'd see in Deus ex. Like this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vw0kZ1hE8 (no thats not real obviously lol)

Maybe its not perfect for listening to while playing, but ghosts by Nine inch nails might be.

What albums do you think fit the world of deus ex?

[3nails4you]

I think none - I've been listening to my GOTY soundtrack for the last few days, and realized then that the music was so good, and so original, that while it complimented what was going on well and set the tone perfectly, it wasn't flashy or distracting. We need an all new composition that fits the tone of the first game and implements itself in the same way. The last thing I want is to hear something in the game that could also pop up on the radio.

[Kataki]

I dont mean that songs that you'd listen to in game. Just songs/albums that make you think of Deus Ex.

Also, NiN almost never gets radio play :] Ghosts is ambient and original, the type of stuff you expect for games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYqXYbyON0Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYb5XwJ7Ss&feature=related

Like this, easily something that could fit in with Deus Ex imo. Nothing distracting. But still Year Zero's conspiracy background story suits deus ex.

Idk I just thought someone else would get as giddy as I did lol

[3nails4you]

Well the radio was just an example, meaning I wanted all new stuff XD but, for example, I'm not a fan of NiN, but one of my good friends listens to them all the time, so I'm sick of them. But now I see what you mean, yeah. I actually know a song where the first part of it REALLY reminds me of DX, but that's all I remember. I'll have to go through my music to see if I can find it, it fits well, but I honestly cannot put my finger on it.

[therave39]

Personally I believe that Trent Reznor (of Nine Inch Nails) would make a perfect candidate, we all know he is more than capable, especially since the Quake soundtrack was intense.
Alternatively, hit up Bobby Prince, just for nostalgia's sake.

[MyImmortal]

I've merged your new thread into existing Music Discussion. :)

[Kataki]

Thanks, didn't think to do that. And ya rave, thats what originally made me think about reznor; the quake soundtrack. He also did the sounds for Doom 3 originally and there is still a sound pack floating around on the internet, but there was some legal issues surrounding it. Reznor hates big companies too much to work for Edios though :P

Plus listening Ghosts III/19 I could totally imagine testing the new mecho-augs to the songs ominous mechanical sound.

[dani]

What do you think about some nice Hardcore (Gabber) music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFmfgeTSOJU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMIIWaB23E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eozMKlcL6pU&feature=related

Or something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlsX5TaHNEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGe_33NN7wU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZpMiZOjtmg

[InGroove2]

Or something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlsX5TaHNEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGe_33NN7wU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZpMiZOjtmg

sorry man, no offense... but i find that style, for DX, to be absolutely repugnant... i mean, it's cheap music (from a musicians standpoint), and in general....UBER forgettable... just a landscape of random sounds and pounding. i think DX3 needs more sophistication than that, not so visceral... it's a heady game... well.. hopefully.... tha music is music for.. like Half life, an intense shooter.

to be totally honest... i'd prefer that they basically lift the old music, take many of the old themes and beats... i mean, for my money, i would give them major props for using even the same exact sound pallete, the same synths etc... and that doesn't take alexander brandon to do, necessarily. the music in DX is SOOO strong, it was missed greatly in IW and i think using the OG theme in the trailer for DX3 was chiling... they shouldn't be afraid to exploit that.

[Kataki]

That sort of music would be ok in dance clubs and stuff like that, but not as the music for in game background music, needs to be more subtle lol

[teknikal-vision]

I dont mean that songs that you'd listen to in game. Just songs/albums that make you think of Deus Ex.

Also, NiN almost never gets radio play :] Ghosts is ambient and original, the type of stuff you expect for games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYqXYbyON0Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYb5XwJ7Ss&feature=related

Like this, easily something that could fit in with Deus Ex imo. Nothing distracting. But still Year Zero's conspiracy background story suits deus ex.

Idk I just thought someone else would get as giddy as I did lol

I'm going to make you so happy and tell you this... I'm ultra giddy in my agreeance with you that Year Zero is very Deus-Ex-y!!! :D If Deus Ex was made into a (really good) movie, they'd definately need to use some of Year Zero as closing credits music or something. A lot of it is really relevant.

The Great Destroyer is by far one of my favourite tracks (even though the lyrical part is so short). I always felt this song describes JC's situation very well; he's constantly being tracked and monitored, he's being told by everyone around him what to think, and most importantly it describes the dangerous potential he has if he is to merge with Helios. (I always imagined that Helios would eventually take over JC's mind completely and become a very dangerous being. I don't trust that a computer AI could remain uncorrupted when it's directly connected with an entity capable of feeling emotion - I was unhappy when this is not what I saw in DX:IW :()

The Great Destoyer - Lyrics:

Say your name.
Try to speak as clearly as you can.
You know everything gets written down.
Nod your head.
Just in case they could be watching.
With their shiny satellite.

I hope they cannot see.
The limitless potential.
Living inside of me.
To murder everything.
I hope they cannot see.
I am the great destroyer.

Turn it up.
Listen to the **** they pump into your head.
Filling you with apathy.
Hold your breath.
Wait until you know the time is right on time.
The end is near.

I hope they cannot see.
The limitless potential
Living inside of me.
To murder everything.
I hope they cannot see
I am the great destroyer

[Kataki]

Yay someone agrees! Lol :] have you heard any of the sound clips they've made? Or read any of the story behind year zero?

Also, reading the lyrics and comparing it to Deus Ex that makes the song so much cooler and it was already one of my favorites.


http://www.ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Research
http://www.ninwiki.com/Year_Zero_Timeline

Pretty interesting stuff

Also, http://www.redhorsevector.net/ is a website that is jumbled up in the great destroyer :P at the end when there is a lot of static etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXPmuJFliA
Apparently if you 'normalize' the audio (whatever that means) the guy that supposedly dies in the video says "Abort the test." making it a government conspiracy to control people through fear of terrorism.

All that sort of stuff reminds me of Deus Ex.

[qJohnnyp]

I dont mean that songs that you'd listen to in game. Just songs/albums that make you think of Deus Ex.

Also, NiN almost never gets radio play :] Ghosts is ambient and original, the type of stuff you expect for games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYqXYbyON0Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYb5XwJ7Ss&feature=related

Like this, easily something that could fit in with Deus Ex imo. Nothing distracting. But still Year Zero's conspiracy background story suits deus ex.

Idk I just thought someone else would get as giddy as I did lol

Reznor did write the Quake Soundtrack after all. It's a shame he didn't write more. And yes, ghosts do sound like a videogame soundtrack :)


But I still want Brandon.

[thomasaquinas]

Ten bucks says we get a generic epic-orchestral score.

[MyImmortal]

Only ten bucks? :hmm:
Increase the wager and you might get a handshake on that. ;)

[Absentia]

An Orchestral theme wouldn't be too bad if it was interspersed with electronica. Although I don't think the same style would fit with DX3, I loved what Sonic Mayhem did with the Prototype score. Musically rather than sonically, I'd still like to see a return the tracker-esque composing of the first game, but I think with a lot more attention on production. DX1's music did sound a little bare and I think it could be more textured, especially on the ambient themes. DXIW's ambient music was actually very good, so perhaps something to go by, yet it lacked the strong memorable melodies which really played their part in setting the atmosphere for many of the areas in DX1. I think it's going to have to be a delicate balance between subtle ambience and more upbeat synthy stuff.

[Kataki]

I agree with the Orchestra type thing but those are indeed very over used. The ambient tracks should be ambient but there should be enough memorable tracks to keep your interest :]

Variation is key.

[Arach666]

Although i´m no fan,Trent reznor did a great job on quake´s soundtrack and his electro-industrial music seems to fit DX all the way

Guess that would make him a good choice

[MyImmortal]

I'm eager to hear confirmation of who the music composer will be. :)

[Necros]

We all are. :)

[APostlELite]

We all are. :)

Yes, we all are. :D

[MyImmortal]

Indeed, every one of us. :D

[Arach666]

Maybe they will hire kidneythieves again.

[Necros]

That would be great, I'd like to her a few more songs from them. :)

[APostlELite]

That would be great, I'd like to her a few more songs from them. :)

Is Alex mainly known for this soundwork for DX or does he has other music he has composed. If so, I will like to hear them.:cool:

[gamer0004]

Is Alex mainly known for this soundwork for DX or does he has other music he has composed. If so, I will like to hear them.:cool:

He has done quite a lot of stuff. The only thing I can remember is Jazz Jackrabbit 2 though. I believe he also did some work on Unreal or Unreal Tournament.

Wikipedia to the rescue: Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Tyrian, Jazz Jackrabbit 2 and the cancelled game Jazz Jackrabbit 3D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Brandon

[APostlELite]

He has done quite a lot of stuff. The only thing I can remember is Jazz Jackrabbit 2 though. I believe he also did some work on Unreal or Unreal Tournament.

Wikipedia to the rescue: Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Tyrian, Jazz Jackrabbit 2 and the cancelled game Jazz Jackrabbit 3D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Brandon

Thanks.

[Unstoppable]

Here are some interesting pieces. May it influence DX 3 in a positive way :o.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5M_mVtAcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZU6XyFxCA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQPTejHjtU&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86C-qIft94

The last one was probably the best part of Invisible War, the music Intro hah.

[Hertzila]

This is the song they should be learning from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j8jMn2Kcgs

[MyImmortal]

I love music. :cool:

[PlasmaSnake101]

Since the theme is Renaissance I would expect to hear a mesh of Classical and the kind of music in Deus Ex.

[Absentia]

I'm pretty sure Alex Brandon is responsible for the original Unreal Tournament menu theme, which was clearly the best piece of music from that game

[Mr. K]

Since the theme is Renaissance I would expect to hear a mesh of Classical and the kind of music in Deus Ex.

Yeah. :cool:

[qJohnnyp]

Is Alex mainly known for this soundwork for DX or does he has other music he has composed. If so, I will like to hear them.:cool:

Heve you tried visiting his website?
http://www.alexanderbrandon.net/music.html
Listen to his last albun Era's End. Very nice Deus-Esque music

[gamer0004]

Listen to his last albun Era's End.

Alpun?

[biofuel]

Someone in another post mentioned that Deus Ex didn't really have anything innovative, that it did what it did well hence the reason for its success.... One word. *atmosphere* Quite simply its easily the most absorbing, atmospheric game, possibly why it was voted #1 in PZ Zone magazine's 'best game ever' poll.

It can be tricky to define exactly what makes for a truly absorbing/atmospheric game and what doesn't, but if you look on the 'youtube' to this day there is a big huge love for the soundtrack of the original game, literally even after the amount of time since it was released. For some reason the music seemed to elevate the experience beyond most or all other games.

Note: to EM, "now where's that Alexander Brandon got himself to...hmm"

[MyImmortal]

^
Merged your post into existing discussion. :thumb:

[biofuel]

EM take note!

[Unstoppable]

So who's going to do the music for this game? It is vital that it has a solid soundtrack, that was one ingredient in the recipe for Deus Ex. I'd get Jesper Kyd and Alexander Brandon together. Can you imagine the possibilities, lol.

[JCDentonMale]

So who's going to do the music for this game? It is vital that it has a solid soundtrack, that was one ingredient in the recipe for Deus Ex. I'd get Jesper Kyd and Alexander Brandon together. Can you imagine the possibilities, lol.

Alexander Brandon is now quite busy in composing his own album "Earthscape" and doesn't look like to work for the soundtrack of Deus Ex 3... But maybe the soundtrack isn't planned to be composed before months, who knows ?

[Unstoppable]

That would be a big mistake. Music and art go hand in hand with literature. There should definitely be someone making music while they art is being worked on. They should both be like a sweet melody.

[Serendipitous]

The music from Vexille sounded kinda similar to me (it's also cyberpunk). What I like most about the music of Deus Ex is that it almost perfectly fits the world of advanced technology, conspiracies, etc. It's not just typical fps filler music-it's a part of the game and story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwF6XtMMZfE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNV07N_u1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sInkrSw58pE

[qJohnnyp]

http://www.clubsilicononline.com/2009/12/earthscape-teaser.html

After hearing this I want Brandon to make a DX3 soundtrack even more >_<

[MyImmortal]

It would be cool if Brandon is the composer, but I'm open-minded about it. I wouldn't mind if it is someone else who captures the right mood for the game. :)

[Maklai]

Small part of music from "Project 2027" (DX1 Fan Mod)

Total tracks number: 2
Total tracks length: 3 min 47 sec
Total tracks size: 3,3MB
mp3, ~112 kbps

Tracklist:
01. Weirdwire - 2027 Credits (1:38)
02. Weirdwire - 2027 Title (2:10)
link: http://www.mediafire.com/?1jynqmxyjjo

P.S. Development began long before the DX3`s announcement :cool:
more info about it http://project2027.com/

After hearing this I want Brandon to make a DX3 soundtrack even more >_<
thank you :thumb:, amazing news-I hope that Eidos licensing one of his songs from "Earthscape" or "Era`s End"

[biofuel]

you know what the perfect theme would be for deus 3..? Alexander Brandon - The Dragonfly ooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

[spyhopping]

Just thought I'd pop in with this- I meant to post it when I read it a few months back, but forgot. It's from Brandon's facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alexander-Brandon/96845182620?ref=mf).



Michael:
Excellent!

I wish Alexander Brandon was doing DX3's music. : (
----

Alexander Brandon:
So do I actually, but the cleverly done nod to the original theme in the teaser put me at ease. They've got good people working on it.
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Adriaan:
huh? is that a yes or a no... because imdb says you will do it!
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Michael:
Ah, it's you, I thought this was a fan-run page. : )

How come you're not working on 3 anyways, eidos politics?
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Alexander Brandon:
Adriaan, imdb unfortunately is wrong. Michael, I left Ion years ago and went to Midway, then Obsidian, now I'm at Heatwave. To work on another company's game wouldn't be that kosher and would take too much of my time. I'd love to contribute but who knows...

[pHdeus]

Back in the early days of this Forum, Alexander Brandon posted a couple of times and it was clear that he was not working on Deus Ex 3. I am really glad that you came up with this Facebook discussion because it helps clarify the situation.

In the early days of this forum, I stated that Alexander Brandon's music was part of DNA of the game and thus not separable from it or its success (appeal). Several of the members made the point that the music was essential and critical to the success of the Game.

What surprises me is the composer of Deus Ex 3 is still such a closely guarded secret after all these months.:o

[H.D.Case]

I think it is Allister Brimble. He did a good job with Superfrog music. ;)

[Mr. K]

What surprises me is the composer of Deus Ex 3 is still such a closely guarded secret after all these months.:o

Indeed. Makes me wonder if they want the fans (aka us) to hear the music before judging it, instead of becoming biased based on the name of the composer.

[MyImmortal]

^
That would make sense. :thumb:

[Mr. K]

^
That would make sense. :thumb:

Or, and bear with me here: They got Vangelis to score the game? :eek: :cool: :o

[MyImmortal]

I love Vangelis. :thumb:

[biofuel]

Just on the music subject, I remember playing the game on the UNATCO bits and being like 'wow' this really is powerful. Never had a similar feeling to that from a game before.

[MyImmortal]

^
Yeah, it is awesome. I also love the original Tomb Raider music too. :)

[wgrygorczuk]

Hi everyone, just registered

A little afterthought I have about the music in DX. Personally, I think it is atmospheric enough, but as has been noted here, sometimes it's too intrusive. So, what I've done on my consecutive playthroughs is that I turned off the music in DX and used winamp to play ambient, cyberpunk-ish tracks. And I'm thinking now, would it be possible for Eidos to get someone, like say Autechre, to do the soundtrack? I mean it's not really anything innovative, Amon Tobin made soundtracks for Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and Infamous, and they turned out really good. I think that the above mentioned Autechre, Biosphere, or LFO could do a very good job of it. :)

Just a couple of examples to show what I'm talking about here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZl8D4onmak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSLwUU373s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAoBKagWQA (the music was made by LFO, I think it really fits Hong Kong in DX1 :) )

[Icky6]

That would be a big mistake. Music and art go hand in hand with literature. There should definitely be someone making music while they art is being worked on. They should both be like a sweet melody.

Yeah the guy who did the original prince of persias music came to my music school a while ago and was saying how music needs to be in development at the same time as the game. It cant be just tacked on.

[H.D.Case]

Hi everyone, just registered

A little afterthought I have about the music in DX. Personally, I think it is atmospheric enough, but as has been noted here, sometimes it's too intrusive.

So you see, different people - different opinions. For me it is not intrusive at all - it is what makes the game so good imho. And I really like the way it is :rasp:

[MyImmortal]

So you see, different people - different opinions.

Bravo!

[EnergyHunt3r]

One of my favourite music of the DX is the Main Theme. Just amazing ! It gives me the feeling of having lots of things to discover and that will be an epic journey.
And please, BRING BACK WARREN SPECTOR !!!!

[biofuel]

In my opinion, Deus Ex should have won any and all awards that is possible for a game soundtrack to win. There are a few tracks that are literally some of the best music I have ever heard. This being one of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FZ-12a3dTI

Except the main theme, that's the track that has come to really sum up Deus Ex for fans of the music that was used in the game. Deus Ex 3 could really benefit from having amazing music that can capture an essence of a special game (we hope), rather than a mindless violence-fest with superficial decorations.

This should be the game's signature track, appearing somewhere in the game or as the main theme. Having this would really tie Deus Ex 3 with the original Deus Ex in a great way:
http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/track/the-dragonfly

:D

And just for fun, everyone loved the 'action' music in the original when the ante got turned up in proceedings, for example, whilst in Hong Kong...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kptCETZZoc

how about this as awesome Shanghai 'action' music for Deus Ex 3...:p
http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/track/hope-ii

[Mr. K]

I dunno about 'The Dragonfly'. It's got the style of DX but not the flavor IMO. If that makes any sense at all.

[MyImmortal]

I think it will be Alexander... it's just a BIG secret right now.

[JCpie]

Ah i remember that wan chai action theme from yesterday, I Killed all the versalife/ MJ12 staff and killed the versalife woman browsing flowers! I killed them all because they murdered my girlfriend Ling in the club I even killed the police! then i held some monks hostage i managed to escape to the canals then was killed by a druggie.

[Maklai]

I think it will be Alexander... it's just a BIG secret right now.
I hope so.


Adam in South-Eastern Asia, a bar :whistle:
Xm8Rh98mk1g

[nsf001]

http://www.colorpulsemusic.com/
:whistle:

[spyhopping]

I hope so.


Adam in South-Eastern Asia, a bar :whistle:
Xm8Rh98mk1g

Only just noticed this. Very nice.

[hem dazon 90]

I have to say without the awesome music I would have quit deus ex (thank God I didnt)

[spyhopping]

It wasn't the first thing that pulled me in, but a few people who I have introduced (force fed) DX to say the Liberty Island music is the first thing that grabs their attention. I say, just you wait for NYC streets to kick in ;)

[Grimesy]

I still can't get the main theme out of my mind...
Seems like it keeps going though my head every day...



oh wait, that's my phone ringing, been using DX-main for six years:whistle:

[MyImmortal]

Music makes life worth living. :cool:

[H.D.Case]

I hope so.


Adam in South-Eastern Asia, a bar :whistle:
Xm8Rh98mk1g
Man, this tune totally rocks! I'd love to see something like that in DX!
And about Brandon, idk now. All his works use the same samples! Tell me, how can he have deusexsque motifs even in his private works! Come on, somebody should tell him - it was good, that's true, but do something different!

[qJohnnyp]

http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/

From Alex's site:
At long last, Earthscape is a reality. Thanks to Daniel Cook for the art and Andrew Sega for the collaboration on the final track "Square Mile."
This took awhile to put together and I'm thoroughly happy with the results. I hope you will be also!



I'm currently listening to it, looking for Deus Esque and classic Brandon moments, finding Peter Gabriel inspirations and kind of being surprised by the inclusion of vocals.
I'd suggest checking out 'The Scene' and 'Broadway'

What do you guys think? I personally still think there is noone like Alex who'd make the perfect Deus Ex soundtrack, and the two tracks I have suggested listening to should be a fine example of that.

[HoarySeal]

Nice

[MyImmortal]

Beautiful music and similar to Rhys Fulber/Conjure One work, which I love.

[Blade_hunter]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319708/fullcredits#cast

By seeing this does Alexander Brandon will do the DX 3 music ?
I see that page is somewhat old but is it true

[ArcR]

Beautiful music and similar to Rhys Fulber/Conjure One work, which I love.

I looked up Cojure One and found them to be richer and more ambient. This new Alex Brandon album... rather producing something more feeling and full bodied he is devolving into a minimalist. I don't like it. 10 years later I expected seemless fusion between electronica and jazz, classical, what have you. Hope he doesn't end up like Philip Glass.

[Bloodwolf806]

Very nice.

[Mr. K]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319708/fullcredits#cast

By seeing this does Alexander Brandon will do the DX 3 music ?
I see that page is somewhat old but is it true

Interesting.

I'm having trouble listening to any of the Earthscape tracks on his website- anybody else experiencing this?

[MyImmortal]

I looked up Cojure One and found them to be richer and more ambient. This new Alex Brandon album... rather producing something more feeling and full bodied he is devolving into a minimalist. I don't like it. 10 years later I expected seemless fusion between electronica and jazz, classical, what have you. Hope he doesn't end up like Philip Glass.
Fulber's music style is incredibly diverse. Other than his current work as "Conjure One", you can check his other compositions as a member of "Front Line Assembly" and "Delerium".

[JCpie]

mmm nice but why is he giving them away for free?

Edit: he's not giving them away :nut:

[xsamitt]

I hope Alexander Brandon is on to do the music for the third installment of our beloved game in progress.The man is incredible creating music.

[Kohtalo]

I immediately purchased the album - and have had no regrets. Brandon truly has his own unique style. The good thing for us Deus Ex fans is, that the music has a lot of what can be found in those Deus Ex tracks - good atmosphere simple, refreshingly different samples than most mainstream artists use.

I truly enjoyed the album, and would love to see Brandon compose for the upcoming title.

[LIGHTS]

http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/28509455/1527000

[MyImmortal]

I hope Alexander Brandon is on to do the music for the third installment of our beloved game in progress.The man is incredible creating music.

Yes, I feel the same way. But if we have a new composer, I'm sure the music will still be good.
Hope we get confirmation soon...

[atLaNt1s]

This is the famous bladerunner vangelis music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZiKuZikMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5ps__SqQM&fmt=18

I know its not the style, but yet his music is amazing. Plus the bladerunner blues has the perfect dystopian future sound.

[Mr. K]

I didn't think this was possible, but two tracks from Alex B's new album "Earthscape" mentally tossed me (rather unceremoniously and with no warning) back into the world of Deus Ex: "Severn City" and "Funky Rustic". Quite the pleasant surprise!

[MyImmortal]

This is the famous bladerunner vangelis music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZiKuZikMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5ps__SqQM&fmt=18

I know its not the style, but yet his music is amazing. Plus the bladerunner blues has the perfect dystopian future sound.

I love the entire soundtrack and Love Theme has the sexiest sax. :cool:

[Soundscape_city]

about a year ago I made this after playing lots of lots of fall out 3. Truly, an epic game. Maybe fall out had twisted my mind a little and I went a bit avant garde and then kinda forgot about it until now. So thought I'd post it up hear...

Enjoy.

http://soundcloud.com/soundscapecity

[Absentia]

^Nice! definitley has a Fallout 3 feel to it
Hey, since we're plugging our music all of a sudden, I might as well join in...
http://www.box.net/shared/fys5a85ezp

Mr.Brandon is definitely one of my biggest influences as a musician, and the title of this track jokingly refers to him

[xsamitt]

^Nice! definitley has a Fallout 3 feel to it
Hey, since we're plugging our music all of a sudden, I might as well join in...
http://www.box.net/shared/fys5a85ezp

Mr.Brandon is definitely one of my biggest influences as a musician, and the title of this track jokingly refers to him

Impressive my man.:thumb:

[Sabretooth]

I know that Alex Brandon is working on Alpha Protocol, and I think I may have spotted a tune by him. I was watching this dev diary here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD-LgkR-AHo

Notice the music about 1 minute in sounds distinctly Deus Ex (and is tracker-based!). While the rest of the music isn't tracker, it's still what I'd imagine Deus Ex 3's music to be like.

[MaxxQ1]

I love the entire soundtrack and Love Theme has the sexiest sax. :cool:

Then you might like this video. And BTW, I agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9KAqhbIZ7o

I've been listening to Vangelis since about 1980. I first heard his music during the opening of Cosmos, and spent a couple months trying to find out who did the music (for some odd reason, I don't think it was listed in the credits, or maybe I just didn't watch the credits long enough). Anyway, I finally saw Heaven and Hell, the album that contained So Long Ago, So Clear (the Cosmos theme music), and when I played it, I found out that there is a second part to the song that Jon Anderson (vocalist for Yes) sings on. I was already a fan of Yes, so that was just the icing on the cake.

So, as of now, I have most everything Vangelis has ever released, including his first solo album after Aphrodites Child broke up (Earth). Problem is that most of it is on vinyl, and I can't find a lot of it on CD, so I need to get myself a USB turntable to "rip" my vinyl.

[jtr7]

So what's the word on this guy?:
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/steve-szczepkowski/5/B3/7B0


Steve Szczepkowski

Lead Sound Designer Eidos Montreal, Canada
Montreal, Canada Area


Current

* Lead Sound Designer at Eidos Montreal
* Lead Audio at Eidos Montréal, currently developing Deus Ex 3

Past

* Musician - Live and Studio at Musician
* Voice Over Actor at Total Casting
* Audio Director at DC Studios

* Sound Technician (Live) at Scotyz Showbar, Pub St Paul etc....


Education

* Trebas Institute
-----------------------------------------------------

Lead Sound Designer
Eidos Montreal

(Public Company; 51-200 employees; Computer Games industry)

September 2007 — Present (2 years 7 months)
*
Lead Audio
Eidos Montréal, currently developing Deus Ex 3

(Computer Games industry)

2007 — Present (3 years )
*
Musician - Live and Studio
Musician

(Public Company; 501-1000 employees; Internet industry)

April 1987 — January 2008 (20 years 10 months)

Have 20 years experience as a working musician ( live & in the studio)
guitar player - singer - composer
*
Voice Over Actor
Total Casting

(Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Computer Games industry)

August 2005 — December 2007 (2 years 5 months)

I work occasionally as a voice actor for video games, commercials & audio books
*
Audio Director
DC Studios

(Privately Held; 11-50 employees; Computer Games industry)

June 2002 — August 2007 (5 years 3 months)

I supervised & contributed to the audio content of all the games we developed as well as managing a team. Worked with Lucas Arts, Majesco, Activison to name a few
*
Sound Technician (Live)
Scotyz Showbar, Pub St Paul etc....

(Privately Held; 11-50 employees; Performing Arts industry)

June 1999 — 2002 (3 years )

I would set up the talent ( mics atc ) and provide the audio mix for the club.

[ArcR]

Friggin impressive work jtr7.

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,90465/

[Dony477]

Yes, he's musics are greath!

[Firepith]

I didn't think this was possible, but two tracks from Alex B's new album "Earthscape" mentally tossed me (rather unceremoniously and with no warning) back into the world of Deus Ex: "Severn City" and "Funky Rustic". Quite the pleasant surprise!

Holy Mc****!

It would certainly be a good move to use Alexander Brandon again, yes.