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Iron Sound
12-06-2006, 07:17 PM
Hello! First post!

Some background:
I wouldn't call myself a military history freak, not for my depth of knowledge in this exceptionally brutal period of human history, but perhaps for my natural eagerness to learn and seize upon all things World War Two.

Anyway, I've been anticpating the release of Battlestations: Midway ever since I saw the first screenshots over a year ago (eighteeen months plus?).

I have jokingly referred to Battlestations: Midway (B:M from now on!) as my "new Team Fortress 2", the latter was my most sought after game for a long period of time and even prompted me to buy a new PC back in 2001 when a release was "imminent".

Anyway, the First Person Shooter has pretty much exhausted itself in the period of World War 2. However, the RTS I feel has so much more to explore in this period. Company of Heroes is an recent example of just what I mean, and regularly play it online (despite the frustrations of "dropping" and the incredibly inaccurate and buggy ranking system).

The reason I cited Team Fortress 2 in particular is due to the "Commander" role the Valve developers had conceived of, and with the advent of Battlefield 2 we saw the first solid implementation of this sort of idea. I, for one, think there is unbelievable potential with respect to this dynamic, and only DICE have so far seized on this.

B:I has exhibited some of the features associated with the Commander role, so I'm especially excited in this respect.
To be able to jump into any craft at any moment of battle, whilst simultaneously commanding from a strategic perspective, evokes fond memories of Battlezone and Hostile Waters, both action strategy games of the highest calibre.

Moving on, my gaming tastes have broadened but FPS and RTS are still my stable favourites. However, in the past two years I have intermittently been playing a MMO game called Navyfield, which launched as a beta and later on offered premium access.
It's an RTS set in WW2, and battles are fought as part of a group (two teams most of the time) with up to 128 contestants fighting it out at once. Classes range from the lowly FF which you start with, to the mighty national CVs and BBs.
The persistent RPG element (MMO) comes into it when you have to raise and manage crew to be able to access new ships and weaponry, and to maximise efficiency.
It is in an antiquated, 2d-ish engine, but what it lacks looks-wise it makes up for in historical authenticity.
The ship trees are fantastic and provoked me to go and learn about all these amazing ships I was using. On that note, there are the four major (navy) players in Navyfield: Britain, US, Japan and Germany, each with its own advantages, sometimes unique.

This is an example of a game which has made me to do research and find out about the true historical origins upon which the content is based. I simply didn’t know much about the naval war prior to playing this.
Like all MMO’s, it is a bit of “grind” to get the big things (“high level”), and even with a premium account you’ll spend weeks moving from a neutral destroyer to a national cruiser. Getting a battleship takes months, so plan your ship tree choices well if you intend to play it on and off like I do (there are options within the trees of the four nations; choosing a CV path means negating the option of using a BB, for example).

Summing up, it’s a good introduction to the history, technology and looks of the ships we are about to encounter in Battlestations. The game can be downloaded from the main site:
http://www.navyfield.com/

This site provides you will all the data you need to get to grips with the intricacies of the game:
http://www.trainworld.us/NF2/English/index.html


To return to Battlestations, it is a strategy-action hybrid that will occupy flight sim aficionados and FPS addicts alike, and it is one of my most anticipated games.

Look forward to this one people, it’s got “Dark Horse” written all over it. Just hurry up and release it already, Eidos!
No really, please don’t do this, we don’t want a boxed release to be followed weeks later by 500 meg patches, just tell those suits to back off, devs! ;)

a dutch alphawolf
12-06-2006, 10:13 PM
I stopped playing navyfield, because you raise nearly no credits if you are not a member :mad2:

Rayze
12-07-2006, 02:11 AM
im a NF player, with the clan NATO and with a lvl 59 almost 60BO
and yes i must say it did exactly same to me it made me look more into the ships of the war, and after playing navyfield, and looking at this 3D fps/rts game its makeing me want it all the more im preordering it today and when it hits play.com website i will be spinning on my chair awaiting my post :P it would be cool if in a expantion or in the full game they impliment a mode such as NF a levelin system, or world conquest, more battles you take place in more ships you destroy the more experience you gain giveing you more experienced crew to drive bigger naval boats, my 2 cents, ether way this games gonna be big and i have a feeling its not going to be no "2 day play next game please" so keep the game roleing eidos! it would als be fun to get some people off the forum incontact for a game together when the game is released :) cya all soon.

Neroman
12-07-2006, 03:43 AM
NF is fun but the graphics aren't that great, but is still very addictive

I'm level 85 trying to get my Iowa. I also have a low level KM(Germany) crew. And I'm working on a US CV crew. Fun game if you get into it. If you do start to play this game, don't be afraid to ask for help cause you can screw yourself up very easily early on if you don't know what your doing..... I should know.... :D

They did make it easier to get credits they beefed up some of the xp and credit payout.

Iron Sound
12-07-2006, 10:19 AM
Well, aside from Battlestations, I've only seen Pacific Storm by the Russian devs implement such a grand scope on such a large scale.

A combination of Battlestations, Pacific Storm, Navyfield, the Total War Series, Risk, Defcon, Company of Heroes and other older games (Cannon Fodder is forever at the forefront of my consciousness!), has inpired me to start writing and producing drawings my first ever design document!

CptJohnson
12-07-2006, 04:05 PM
Well looks to be some NFr's over here I have been in the grind there sence Nov,05 and its time for some change got BO's from lvl 45 to 95 and going nowhere fast bugged rooms noob host/players takes 20+min for a game only to get 10k-30k xp not worth the wait not to list the $00.00's of dollars spent but time will only tell I really think alot of the NF peps will end up here if its as good as she looks

Iron Sound
12-08-2006, 01:51 AM
Yes, part of the fun of battlestations will be being able to use the big ships almost straight away.

This is what makes a game fun in my view - having a wide selection of weapons, and a diverse array of gameplay.
In this way, yes, a lot of people will probably want to get their hands on the big ships first of all, even though you will probably have to learn the ropes with the smaller vessels.
But what this means is that once the novelty wears off people will find their own niche, ie what is most fun to them, be it small or large vessels, CVs or DD's!

I think this is one of the main defects of Navyfield - it does not really give you a choice when it comes to what ship you are using, unless you spend over a year grinding, waiting 15 mins+ for a room, etc.
Combined with the cost factor, it's not really worth it, hence I'm resuming my break from Navyfield once again.

At least my ships and crew will still be there when I go back and play it.. but it seems I can only stomach NF for 3 months at a time now :nut:

Cpt.sharp
12-08-2006, 02:16 AM
i think NF will die once this game comes out :whistle:

im currently lvl 39 still in a a Q class because I dont have enough credits for anything else :(

Iron Sound
12-08-2006, 05:51 AM
i think NF will die once this game comes out :whistle:

im currently lvl 39 still in a a Q class because I dont have enough credits for anything else :(

hahahaha!

sorry, had to be said :rasp:

Iron Sound
12-13-2006, 03:25 PM
yeah, navyfield is dead


the new media is blowing my mind


I love the look of the tactical map

So retro and so precise!



Fantastic work, artists, programmers and developers in general responsible for this game!

thejuicydot
12-18-2006, 10:21 PM
hehe.. all NFers.. lol.. i doubt nf will die so easily.. ive been playing it for 2 yrs now.. very addictive.. i already have lion2 :)

MadduckUK
12-19-2006, 04:05 AM
2 years and already in the same sentence dont go.

however your right, NF is only similar to Midway because its WW2 naval combat. so if anything midway may turn more people on to NF.

Iron Sound
12-19-2006, 09:04 AM
we'll see how restrictive/fun it is to play as a BB in Battlestations

there is something in the Navyfield dynamic of "train crosshairs and shoot" which never gets boring... same applies for FPS's

TheMetalStorm
12-19-2006, 03:36 PM
Looks fun.

Subrookie
12-20-2006, 11:37 AM
Just heard about this game from Neroman in the Red Sky forum a week or so ago. You'd think with the time he has to post on here he'd play a little more in NF.

Anyway, I'll give it a shot, I'm lvl 101 KM on MO not really interested in grinding another 4 or 5 months for a IJN BB crew or something else. I think this game could be really cool, but I think I'll still play NF.

unurkan
01-28-2007, 07:36 PM
Reading through various posts, a lot of names look familiar from NF. If you are from NF, speak up so that we can possibly game together in the future. This is Manteuffel from the MO server.

BTW, is this game going to rock or what? I have played the PC version for a couple of days now, and I'm loving it. Also, is there a way that you can spectate only rather than controlling a unit? The demo lets you spectate only after you die.

charlie_six
01-28-2007, 07:37 PM
I played Navyfield a little bit. I was god awful at the game so I had to quit. So many torpedoes hitting my ship.... ugghhhh.

I'm glad there are planes in this game for me to fly :) Sailing is for .... sailors!

My XBL name is Shihku7 if you wanna add me. I'd be glad to fly planes for ya, Admiral :D

DarkTau
01-28-2007, 07:42 PM
I played the NF Beta, then stopped when they made it P2P. Sucks, as I was lvl 50 with a Couple of Fletchers and Essex Carriers that just dominated. Obviously I chose the US for my Navy.

unurkan
01-28-2007, 07:44 PM
DarkTau....NF is no longer p2p. I'm sure they still have your account.

DarkTau
01-28-2007, 07:49 PM
Actually, they don't. I deleted my account. Besides, I'm into WarRock now.

ipitythefool
01-28-2007, 09:10 PM
I still play on occasion. NF name=username.

Iron Sound
01-28-2007, 09:43 PM
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=63856&highlight=navyfield

Freebo
01-28-2007, 10:16 PM
I used to play NF was great :) shame they wiped my account :\

MarkDawg
01-28-2007, 11:48 PM
I play NF but I am on AZ server

Wall Shadow
01-29-2007, 01:09 AM
AZ FTW Nubs! :P

Yeah you AZ players should know me!

also IPityTheFool, please dont Forum Whore here its bad enuff on NF Forums :D

just kidding with ya mate!

Hrtbreakone
01-29-2007, 08:51 AM
been playing NF since it was still in beta so, i gues i'v been around a long time, but this game is verry different and also has some bugs to work out, butt heck NF still has bugs :nut:

good to see some people from nf here though :)

Out Numbered
01-31-2007, 03:49 AM
Playing NF since it was still in beta.but MWB is more sexy looking.Its like Free for all right now.just hope they dont start nerfin every thing. lol

Ichiro071
02-20-2007, 01:48 PM
HAHA, you guys are n00bs on NF, I have a level 93 KM BB crew and 64 Jap cv. Funny thing is, thats not even that high compared to alot of the Freaks that play NF. Sure makes it alot easier to level when you have yourself a UK or US crew. Charge in do 30-60k attack and run away with your mad xp, rinse and repeat every 5 minutes. I hate KM.:mad2:

Anyways Battlestations is way more realistic, only problem is it lacks the unit variety.

NFbabs
02-20-2007, 11:14 PM
HAHA, you guys are n00bs on NF, I have a level 93 KM BB crew and 64 Jap cv. Funny thing is, thats not even that high compared to alot of the Freaks that play NF. Sure makes it alot easier to level when you have yourself a UK or US crew. Charge in do 30-60k attack and run away with your mad xp, rinse and repeat every 5 minutes. I hate KM.:mad2:

Anyways Battlestations is way more realistic, only problem is it lacks the unit variety.

Not only does it lacks unit variety, it also lacks unit differentation. For example all CA got the same armor, same guns (range, damage). The only thing which differs is the number of guns. Boring boring boring if you ask me.

NF for the win! (altough i havent played it for 1.5 years now it think. Its way to addictive, so i choose for my life) While this game does has the graphics, the devs didt exploit their game properly. Its a nice game but it wont have any lasting appeal. NavyField on the other hand, looks like ****, is programmed like ****, but the depth of the gameplay is immense and really fun. (and its got a huge learning curve, lol, besides what everyone sais bout this game, it only has almost no learning curve. shooting is way too easy and boring!).

Babs out!

Babs out!

darklord212
02-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Naw man, BSM still kicks NF but. Many reasons too like what really gets me is the balance issue, that there is still bugs and lag i can keep going and going.
NF is kinda like cigarettes u pay for them, u get addicted and they are not good for your health.