Commandos 5

[fozman]

i know the other one has ony just come out, but i was wonding if they have thought about it, or even if you guys would be willing to buy it???

[PinCushion]

Id go for a newer commandos if they go back to the old control/ tactic style overhead gameplay. Maybe that should be a poll? which control type do people prefer?

[Konnan]

I prefer the older style. Commandos shouldn't try to copy games like Call of Duty and other FPS. Commandos is unique because of the gameplay in commandos 1-3.

I hope, if there will be a Commandos 5, that they will go back to old glory and give the graphics an update. A bit like the Command & Conquer serie.

[saleem84]

Yes I would definitely buy the game if they develop it like the previous strategic sequels i.e 1-3. I love those tactical battles and I would love to play the game.

[Nzap]

I´ll buy, if the game is similiar to C2 and C3. SF was too much COD, MOH(which also are great games), But we don´t want Commandos to be those games. We want it to be Commandos.



PS: It would be better if you could write Commandos in the poll.:rasp: not Commanods

[ez rider]

if the next Commandos is even a bit similar to the 1st one
i'd buy it without a doubt
BTCOD is fine too
but after that i lost interest
i'm playing CSF now and it offers just a tiny fraction of the excitement i experienced in BEL
so, back to BEL with better graphics :)

[iakovos]

Perhaps something along the lines of COH with an overhead view as well. But since I don't see the point in moving back to 2d, I would prefer a full blown
3d purely strategy driven commandos game. Getting back to basics is what Pyro should do right now.

Iakovos:)

[kenving]

I would buy Commando 5 if it went back to the style of 1,2,3.
The best missions are the ones where you have to plan the mission and escape carefully without setting off alarms.
Also, great missions are the ones where full battles happen (saving smith, burma).
Many of the missions in 5 were not very interesting to play.

[macaddict_17]

I agree. I don't really like fps much, and I just love the stealth missions of 2 and 3. I don't like the time limits much, but I can live with it. But the requirment for me to get C5 would be it coming out for mac...

[lock_and_load]

Something like C2: DP is what i would like :D

[vinczent]

what have they done to old school commandos? i dont like c3 and sf. If they would get back to the good old-days style i´d buy it

[murtazamm]

Eidos made the biggest mistake by making commandoes first person, I am a fan of the entire series until now and I'm sure there are lots of people out there who feel the same way about this game but how can they switch the actual strategis play to first person? I never bought the latest commandos game and this goes for many other Commandos lovers who never did and the reson being the entire idea of stratigical play is gone now !
Some of the things I would love to see in commandos 5 are :

1- Back to (overhead) strategic view
2- Modular game design where they can release new stages instead of releasing entire new games ...this way they can have 1 scenario every 6 months .


sticking to first person will do no good !!!

[Johannes47]

Why they dont make Commandos 1 with the Performance and details of Commandos 3?
If they do that then i will buy him! :thumbsup:

[dyuti]

Please don't let this Commandos series go away. I would definitely buy the next sequel. However, I would prefer the game with the old style of playing mode, and of course with a better graphics engine. Also, just for making the game more realistic, don't take the fun out of it.

[butcher.LSN]

strike force sucked, so it would be awesome if EIDOS will brin old gamin style back :thumbsup:

[mivanc]

I've played all the Commandos games so far. I've not spent more time on any other games.

I greatly enjoyed BEL, Beyond the Call of Duty back in the day.
Commandos 2 is my personal favorite. It was lengthy and fun to play, loads of different missions. Best bang for my buck.

Commandos 3 I bought for 80$ Canadian. I like it while it lasted, but for the time it took me to go through it, it wasn't worth that much money. It was way to short, in comparison to commandos 2. Not enough missions. Was probably worth 20$ or less.

I recently bought Strike Force at Zellers for 5$. I've played through it twice already and it was fun for the price I paid, no regrets. Now, it could have been better. It held some features from the previous games but not enough. Some beloved characters were missing(Loved the thief, sapper!); no hiding bodies especially wasn't true to the series. It should not have carried the "Commandos" name. It would have been better had they put elements of the Hitman series in it(hiding bodies especially).

For the next game, I would like to see a return to the same interface as Commandos 3 but better. With the previous games though they've already explored many of the theaters of the war. One is left to wonder what campaigns, locations they could choose. I would like to see them go where no one has before, feature campaigns and battles not normally showed in WW2 games.

I would like to control Axis forces, since I'm sure they had commandos as well during the early goings of the war. Not many games have done so. Codename Panzers was a series that did this and it worked well.

[maham_ali]

i will buy a comando dvd if it is like "men of courage" or "db" but not like csf...i forgot to mention one thing........i wana play commanods which can run on my pc.i will not be able to play commndos if i will have to make alot of hardware changes in my pc. because it is really expensive in our part of world.....take care

[yasirbdg]

dear maham, i guess you dont like the game because its difficult to play, to me, it is one of the best games i have ever played, the game play, the music and the missions are awesome! if you can not upgrade your pc for games, dont bother playing games or even looking for upgrading softwares, because this technology, eventually will keep on changing .......... i used to have a pantium 200 MMX in 1996 with 32 MB of Ram and i thought that its the max speed machine but now you see ......... how things have been upgraded ........... ever software version is more enhanced and require good hardware, its not the commandos game only, tombraider legend, hitman, resident evil ....... similarly newer versions of windows and other application softwares .......... i suggest you should buy a PS3, that will take care of your problems for atleast a couple of years !

[@m]

i will buy a comando dvd if it is like "men of courage" or "db" but not like csf...i forgot to mention one thing........i wana play commanods which can run on my pc.i will not be able to play commndos if i will have to make alot of hardware changes in my pc. because it is really expensive in our part of world.....take care

In your posts you mention Men Of Courage and destination berlin but did you play behind enemy lines and beyond the call of duty? They don't require the latest hardware and well are the first games in the series so definately worth playing. I also find that today you can still see how much impact graphicly it had back then.

[garong]

I will buy Commandos 5 if it's a strategy game like Commandos 1, 2, 3.

[Longshot]

I'd buy C5 without hesitation but it would have to be like the classic commandos not a FPS.

[Yde]

I only buy it when it's the good old strategy game :D

[Cieku]

.. Commandos 2 MoC was the best game in series for me. C3 Destination Berlin was good too, but I was so disappointed when I discovered that the game was without co-op in multiplayer. I remember that C2 was finished by me about 5 times on single player, and about 100+ times on multiplayer!! (C3 finished once and that was all). It was so fun playing with my friends. So multiplayer co-op game mode in Commandos 5 is must-have option.

Sorry for my bad english :rasp:

[StardogChampion]

I think it would be called Commandos 4, but yes, I would buy it, but only if it had the controls, HUD and sound ripple when running from C2.

They should also add a few features from Desperados such as recording moves and being able to throw knives. Commandos has better enemy view cones than Desperados though.

[maham_ali]

In your posts you mention Men Of Courage and destination berlin but did you play behind enemy lines and beyond the call of duty? They don't require the latest hardware and well are the first games in the series so definately worth playing. I also find that today you can still see how much impact graphicly it had back then.


well i have played these two games alot of times............:rasp: :rasp: ...i simply love them......:D :D :D :D .................please dont try to change my comandos game........thanks alot.......

[maham_ali]

dear maham, i guess you dont like the game because its difficult to play, to me, it is one of the best games i have ever played, the game play, the music and the missions are awesome! if you can not upgrade your pc for games, dont bother playing games or even looking for upgrading softwares, because this technology, eventually will keep on changing .......... i used to have a pantium 200 MMX in 1996 with 32 MB of Ram and i thought that its the max speed machine but now you see ......... how things have been upgraded ........... ever software version is more enhanced and require good hardware, its not the commandos game only, tombraider legend, hitman, resident evil ....... similarly newer versions of windows and other application softwares .......... i suggest you should buy a PS3, that will take care of your problems for atleast a couple of years !



i realise that..............maybe i have to upgrade my pc.........i am really sad because i cant run commandos destilation berlin on my pc i have to use my bro pc to play it.........he got a really good machine (without a 3d card).....and the game runs very slowly when u change the view....it seems that the game is not working......any ideas how to solve this problem...:mad2: :mad2:

[Moazzam]

increase ram of your pc

[Longshot]

isn't this getting off topic?...Start a new thread.

[Arcalon]

I only buy it when it's the good old strategy game :D

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[Scadvid]

1- Back to (overhead) strategic view
2- Modular game design where they can release new stages instead of releasing entire new games ...this way they can have 1 scenario every 6 months .


sticking to first person will do no good !!!

Bumping an old thread, but it expresses my sentiments exactly.

Got Commandos BTCD when it came out, and just picked up Commandos MOC a couple days ago (as I'm getting too worked up with DX3; and some publishers will never get a penny from me again). It's so nice to play an old game as new. Really miss older games, especially when gameplay was more important than fancy real-time rendered graphics (have to admit the artwork in MOC is superb, despite the baked on shadows). Best $10 spent in a long while.

Alas, I paused playing since I just have to rip the soundtrack. It's actually pretty good, and when enhanced, sounds CD quality even. The Target: Burma track is my favorite, and it's going next to my Deus Ex game playlist. Eidos thanks for some nice music in games!!

Didn't get the 3D versions of the game, because I prefered the old AOE/CaesarIII overhead gaming. It's so needed for a game that requires pre-planning your moves (and thinking of novel ways to win a level -- not just the quick walkthrough on easy/normal settings).

Hopefully when Commandos 5 comes around, Eidos will steer it back to the preferred method of playing this game, as this publisher seems to attract "old skool" gamers in droves. :D

[@m]

I agree that the soundtrack is great, I think it's always been a great addition to the games. It will be interesting to see what Pyro will do with Commandos. As of now nothing is known about it. Although we believe Eidos won't be publishing it as they sold the shares they had in Pyro Studios..

[Scadvid]

Although we believe Eidos won't be publishing it as they sold the shares they had in Pyro Studios..

Did that include the IP?

Eidos seems to always have had money problems. From the Ion Storm Dallas days -- like burning through millions on things not even related to gaming, which in times now, would be company suicide. Perhaps now with the company shakeup, they can get back to the titles that were successful, and make some truly fan based games for a change.

A company really needs a strong customer base to keep franchises going, and mass marketing alone doesn't keep them loyal.

Content is king. With Commandos it's the overhead projection (which even the space sims today are still using), which is required for stragedy games.

[hayta]

I´ll buy, if the game is similiar to C2 and C3. SF was too much COD, MOH(which also are great games), But we don´t want Commandos to be those games. We want it to be Commandos.

[Stoneage]

Id go for a newer commandos if they go back to the old control/ tactic style overhead gameplay. Maybe that should be a poll? which control type do people prefer?
I loved the commandos games 1,2 & 3 so I vote for the old control. Also called " third-person " view. And please, create at least one more game of the commandos series. If you do, I will buy it!! You have my word on that.

:o :rasp:

[Dialog]

Yes, I too hope, that you will make Commandos 5 in style Commandos 1 and 2. These versions were most interesting.

[Duck Of War]

I have commandos 1, 2 and 3, if 5 be a strategy i buy it... I now playing commandos 3, and i love it... If commandos 5 have all people from commandos 2 and in case thet be hard like commandos 1. I vile buy it....

[Mafia]

dear maham, i guess you dont like the game because its difficult to play, to me, it is one of the best games i have ever played, the game play, the music and the missions are awesome! if you can not upgrade your pc for games, dont bother playing games or even looking for upgrading softwares, because this technology, eventually will keep on changing .......... i used to have a pantium 200 MMX in 1996 with 32 MB of Ram and i thought that its the max speed machine but now you see ......... how things have been upgraded ........... ever software version is more enhanced and require good hardware, its not the commandos game only, tombraider legend, hitman, resident evil ....... similarly newer versions of windows and other application softwares .......... i suggest you should buy a PS3, that will take care of your problems for atleast a couple of years !

Seconded!..:rasp:

P.S: Yasi bhai this place is Fun, see my suggestion about Commandos 5.

[vaglior]

Commandos 5 must be like the older versions. Shame on you Eidos! fps? One step behind! but you can fix it with commandos 5. Please... Best regards to all

[Teuvo]

Commandos 5 must be like C2 with CO-OP of course.

Commandos 2 was a masterpiece after that series been getting worse... ****

[Haridimos]

Hi guys,

i use my computer primarily for work. I'm not a games fan. I have played very few games.

Some of the games that i played are the commanos 1, 2, 3.

The commandos series managed to keep me playing, especially Commandos 2: Men of courage. I think it's the best.

I haven't played the FPS one. According to the post in this forum, i'd better not bother.

i wana play commanods which can run on my pc.i will not be able to play commndos if i will have to make alot of hardware changes in my pc. because it is really expensive in our part of world.....take careI agree. You Eidos Interactive doesn,t need to develop a new game. It's just enough to make a pack of additiotnal missions for Commandos 2: Men of Courage.

The missions should require strategy, not speed. I hate the bonus mission after Das Boot, the one with the diver in the boat who has to reach the before the countdown reaches zero. It's unacceptable. It should be purely strategy game, not racing.

I would like more missions. The location of the campaigns should include North Africa, Greece (especially Crete!!!), Yugoslavia etc.
In Commandos 2: Men of Courage there are 8 members of the team. Each mission it can include a different number of members participating: 2 commandos, 3 etc.. Also, there should be different combinations of the selected members.
In mission 10 (Is Paris Burning) it is possible to finish the mission without using Thief and Sniper at all!!!!!! It is possible to eliminate the two patrolling ermored vehicles by simply stealing the parked tank (using driver and sapper). In this case, the explosives (inside the locked boxes) are totally useless. Furthermore, Natasha can do all the marksman shots. This is not good.

[denjo987]

i didn`t read all the posts but maybe nobody mentioned that:

it would maybe be also nice with some new characters in "modern wars"...maybe iraq, bosnia, africa, georgia with some new weapons.
But of course in old (c 1,2,3) manner. no science fiction sh...t with super modern weapons and so ... i think you know what i mean... If money is the problem lets collect somethn:nut: :mad2: :scratch:

[batuts]

I love c1,2,3 style of gameplay, so if they return to that style, i surely will buy it.

I missed playing commandos. :sigh:

[juliome10]

The old versions please!!

Commandos 2: Men of Courage is the best!

[iakovos]

Clearly where C4 or CSF failed was when Pyro decided to launch the strictly PC game to other platforms, thus removing key elements of the previous titles, the most important one being the very genre of the game... strategy.

Although I did play CSF, the tactical elements of surprise and clever attack (and not only) were incomplete or lacking in one degree or the other. It is the main problem with First Person shooters. You cannot have a clear overview of the entire map at all times like when we were in 2d.

I do hope that Pyro will notice the appeal that strategy games like COH had in the pc community the previous year (a 3rd installment in on the works), the undying fact that we still do not have an actual editor, not even for CSF, which was supposed to be the new direction (since Half-Life, I haven't seen any other FPS with no editor to work with...).

It has been several years now and Pyro hasn't made any announcement yet. Hopefully that will change... soon.

Back to basics!

Iakovos:)

[Mafia]

Tell you what guys, there wont be another addition to commandos series...

because....

1- All the germans are dead....

or

2- War is over....

or

3- All the guys in commandos force are retired (retard???? can say as you ask them to do a simple task and they fils to do so, tell me how hard it can be to jump over a 2 feet concrete block, my 5 years old brother does it all the time) now (well they showed in strike force only three left :P... driver, sapper and diver are either killed, retired or sent to some other front)

or

4- Eidos is taken over by a German Media called "Heinz Herald Gameno De Internationala" LOL.... and first thing their wise head did is to kill this series full of....

or

5- they did strike force, and forgot to do another.....

[iakovos]

1- All the germans are dead....

Quite the pessimist, aren't you... don't tell that to the men and women living next to France and Belgium! :rasp:

2- War is over....

The war was long over when CBEL was released... didn't stop them before.

3- All the guys in commandos force are retired now

They aren't real people you know :p:nut: Still we have no idea what has happened to the original team.

(retard???? can say as you ask them to do a simple task and they fils to do so, tell me how hard it can be to jump over a 2 feet concrete block, my 5 years old brother does it all the time)

It's a game you know... In most fps games there are limits to where you can go in a map...

(well they showed in strike force only three left :P... driver, sapper and diver are either killed, retired or sent to some other front)

It was a different team, not the original commandos half dirty dozen. We do not know what has happened to the original team since C3.

4- Eidos is taken over by a German Media called "Heinz Herald Gameno De Internationala" LOL.... and first thing their wise head did is to kill this series full of....

LOL

5- they did strike force, and forgot to do another.....

You never know... we thought that CBTCOD was the last, then we thought C2 was the last, then we thought C3 was the last... see my point?

Iakovos:)

[mma119gb]

Commandos series was a great series of strategy games.
I like the game commandos(1-3) and please launch commandos 5
Thank you Eidos

[batuts]

I still believe there will be a next on the franchise and they will return to where they're successful.

Forget the killing german thing issue. If they don't want themselves dead perhaps they can consider visiting Vietnam or any other place where commandos where deployed. :o

[AndrewT]

they can consider visiting Vietnam or any other place where commandos where deployed. :o

i don't give a damn about the context, of course i prefer world war 2 and the original characters, but if only a vietnam or world war 1 or any kind of new theatre of war would be featured with the good old isometric engine, i would be happy.

however, i was thinking about something else. still ww2, still original characters, and some more guys. there would be the normal campaign with the green beret, sniper and all the c2 guys, but at one point, in a mission, they will receive an order to contact and free a german soldier that was captured by the gestapo, because seemed to be capable of cooperating with the allied forces. the team free the guy, let's call him hans ;), and hans begins to tell a story about their missions in the past. he and his men were dropped behind enemy lines on the eastern front, and executed covert missions against soviet bases, units, troops, anything. considering, that the german fallschirmjägers were experienced elite veterans, and performed much better in sticky situations as the regular troops, they can be the german counterpart of the british commandos. as the story goes on, we are getting involved into 2-3-4 german commandos missions, where we are controlling hans and his men, and leading them into similar kind of missions as we do with our beloved commandos. as fallschirmjägers all of them could arrive separetley with parachutes, each of them would be a unique "commando" with unique abilites, unique german voices, weapons, like fg42, incendiary grenades etc.

this would cover only a few maps, and after hans has finished his retrospective tales, he will be involved in our missions, joining up with our commandos. although the gestapo was right, and hans seemed to be ready to let the nazi regime down, he's still a dangerous german soldier, and everything is suspicious to our commandos what he does. when it comes to the mission, where he is only guy that could get through the german controlling points of a heavily guarded area, the others are worried, because hans as a german doesn't kill his german fellowmen, especially not the average wehrmacht soldiers that have not much to do with the regime rotten to the core. he has the ability to distract more german soldiers at the same time, sending them onto patrols, and so on, and so on. i haven't thought too much about it, but thats for sure: i always miss the german parts from the ww2 games, as they are always the "evil" side, however, controlling them, the elite soldiers would be a great experience, not only in a commandos game (for example call of duty german front!)

other idea is the "moviefication". most of the commandos missions are based on famous movies, but there are still plenty of them to be implemented. kellys heroes, bridge at remagen, a bridge too far, where eagles dare (schloss adler would rock :thumb: ), the eagle has landed (for a german mission) and the list could be continued.

thats unfortunately only theorycraft until a sign would come from pyro interactive... :(

best regards and happy new year to all commandos fans! our beloved games stepped into their 12th, 11th, 8th and 6th year :)

[rg_001100]

...Perhaps now with the company shakeup, they can get back to the titles that were successful, and make some truly fan based games for a change.

A company really needs a strong customer base to keep franchises going, and mass marketing alone doesn't keep them loyal.

Content is king. With Commandos it's the overhead projection (which even the space sims today are still using), which is required for stragedy games.
If they are going to make C5, they would surely want to make a lot of money from it (because of financial issues). The problem would seem to me that Commandos is now closed off from players entering into the series. I don't think they'd be able to get away with lots of money by *only* selling it to the fans. (Selling it to the non-fans didn't work, either. CSF didn't work). Even going back to what Commandos once was, I would doubt anyone new would try this game if it lacked the graphics. You need the graphics which means more money to make... I think that C5 would need to be both very hard, so the fans are not disappointed, but very accessible for anyone not used to the stealth tactics in the game.

Commandos 5 must be like the older versions. Shame on you Eidos! fps? One step behind! but you can fix it with commandos 5. Please... Best regards to all
If CSF's FPS view was the same strategy games that C:BEL, C2MoC were from a first-person perspective, I wonder if it would have failed as it did. The complaints about CSF seem to be that it lost the stealth/strategy, and turned into a MoH/CoD clone.


it would maybe be also nice with some new characters in "modern wars"...maybe iraq, bosnia, africa, georgia with some new weapons.
But of course in old (c 1,2,3) manner. no science fiction sh...t with super modern weapons and so ... i think you know what i mean... If money is the problem lets collect somethn:nut: :mad2: :scratch:
I do wonder whether fans of Commandos would care if C5 had a different context for the game, other than WW2, but managed to preserve the strategy gameplay. (If the SFantasy/Fiction weapons were of the same level as the WW2 weaponry, would it really be so bad? Perhaps additional strategic elements could be had through the new technology..). A new context might be fresh, but I would think that unless the game is good for both the unexperienced, and the very experienced, it won't sell.

[iakovos]

The problem would seem to me that Commandos is now closed off from players entering into the series.

I highly doubt that. All it needs is a push. Like a limited edition with all previous incarnations and then... boom... Commandos 5.

Even going back to what Commandos once was, I would doubt anyone new would try this game if it lacked the graphics.

Company of Heroes, e.x., does not have what you would call superb graphics, but still it was a best seller.
Same thing goes with commandos. That micro-management of a single unit has been copied a number of times, but the original, the commandos 2D/3D, still remains a classic.

What Commandos 5 would desperately need, in my opinion, is a length equal to CBEL and surely an equivalent of "a german counterpart", in order to spice things up in MP. Proper training missions as well would be a must for new gamers into the series.

A mission similar to an "The Eagle has landed" scenario would be too good to be not true.

Iakovos:)

[AndrewT]

what do you exactly mean lacking graphics? :scratch:
i'm taking a look at this 7-8 years old game, and still wonder how photorealistic it looks. it's a pleasure just to look at it, not to mention to interact in it and play. and i appreciate a photorealistic game like this much more, than nowadays overhyped, overcoded, still buggy 3d game engines, which are run only on machines of nuclear reactor caliber.
you can't rotate and distort it 360 degrees? - who the hell cares, if you don't need it? however, after testing commandos 2 with debug.exe, it is clear that a fully 3d engine can be unlocked and there's the rotation. with some extra coding it would be possible to use it i guess, but in 2001 there would have been no machine to run it.
from my point of view, however, there is one aspect in the graphic that could be improved, and that's the texture size.
when you zoom in, the graphics is becoming extremely pixelated, and this is caused by the small size textures. an average character like the greenberet or any german or japanese units have to fit a 64x64 square, which looks super fine from no zoom distance, but not so if zoomed in.
i don't know if it's possible, but in other games, with hex-editor it was possible to edit the texture size, i mean the abi files containing slots for the textures, and those slots can only integrate a predefined size of textures, and that could be hex-edited somehow.

and what about the game's popularity? although the forums i regulary visit (this one, c3zone/hq) aren't crowded, there are not so many news and comments, i doubt that this is the whole activity with the series. i'm sure that thousends of people are still playing these games, and would be interested in a new sequel. now the only question is, that do we really need a new sequel without gonzo suarez and his team involved in it...? :confused:

[vassili_zaitsev]

Hi everyone!

For all who are speculating about the next version of the series, i read on a youtube thread, that they are planning to add natasha and driver to the next version. I myself dont know, to what extent is that true

See the comments of the following video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tt0dJdv_oY

I hope its true!! eagerly waiting for the next version

-Vassili

[iakovos]

The only real news are the following:
a) In November 2006 Spanish Website Revogamers reported that Pyro Studios had started work on an unnamed adventure game for the Wii (in addition to another game) to be released in 2008.

b) In the jobs section in the pyrostudios website it states:
AREA DESIGN/ VIDEO GAME TESTER

The video game tester will test the game (a next-gen 3rd person action shooter) in the early stages of production, looking for, reporting and tracking bugs, and reporting on all newly implemented mechanics. He will work under the supervision of the lead coder.

I surely hope that the mentioned 3rd person shooter is indeed commandos 5.

Iakovos:)

[rg_001100]

I surely hope that the mentioned 3rd person shooter is indeed commandos 5.

'action-shooter' doesn't seem to describe the Commandos series very well...

[AndrewT]

'action-shooter' doesn't seem to describe the Commandos series very well...

unfortunately it does, if you consider the latest trends in the series, the last 'sequel' was meant to be something like this.

[rg_001100]

From what I've played of Commandos 3, there were some action parts to it. ("Stop Bomb Deployment" wasn't exactly a stealth mission :P). I've played the first level of CSF... doesn't exactly remind on of a "Commandos" game. (Looks like a MOH:AA clone). I think perhaps Pyro were trying for action elements for the game in C3, and were able to develop the action-elements further with a game engine more suitable to action.
I liked the stealth elements of C3, the isometric view (and controls) worked well with the stealth. Playing from a more direct perspective ("3rd Person" to me describes games like Tomb Raider) might be interesting for action/shooting, but it would make the stealth a bit weird.

[aping]

Definately..

I would love Commandos 2 MOC back, that is my favorite game ever! I like the other series up to Commandos 3, I don't enjoy first person shooter and it sucks that every games has turned into one, worse being my favorite game CSF...

[maham_ali]

men of courage is the best commandos game i have ever played...please increase the "missions" and "the bonus mission" in this game and re-launch it....for meeeee:D :rasp: :nut: :(

[maham_ali]

The old versions please!!

Commandos 2: Men of Courage is the best!




i agree with youuuuu:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D :thumb:

[AndrewT]

with the latest achievements of the modding community, i think it will be possible to recreate all commandos (bel, btcod, dp) missions under the c2moc engine or create completely new missions as well, screenshots are available ven now, implementation is a question of time.
but i wouldn't expect anything similar from the official "side"... :(

[rg_001100]

I wonder, if we are to get something "official", whether a remake would be the best way to go, or whether it would be better to come out with something new. I would also wonder whether it would sell better with the 'classic' commandos movement, or whether the 3rd/1st person "action" style would work sell better. :hmm:

[E'ven]

however, after testing commandos 2 with debug.exe, it is clear that a fully 3d engine can be unlocked and there's the rotation. with some extra coding it would be possible to use it i guess, but in 2001 there would have been no machine to run it.


Have you ever tried what ss786 says here http://www.tafn.info/TAFN/forums/viewtopic.php?t=116 (http://www.tafn.info/TAFN/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5156&sid=731a36704644f0a61cd6576ff42a533c#5156) about rotating exteriors?
I searched mission files for the .TIPO 2D text but have never been able to find it. Not in .bas files or any other.

I just asked them myself :). And hi iakovos :).

[iakovos]

I wonder, if we are to get something "official",

Since the release of CBEL in 1998 there has been no official response or assistance for a modding community. Even CSF did not include an editor and that was a FPS!

...whether a remake would be the best way to go...
...i think it will be possible to recreate all commandos...

If this is indeed possible, I would welcome it with all my heart. A remake of the original BEL and BTCOD would be the way to go, in order to see HOW things were and things are going to be in a remake. Especially since a remake will not be anything like the original, but it will further enhance the experience by adding 3d environments, thus creating a whole new perspective of the classic commandos.

or whether it would be better to come out with something new.

IMHO, that would be the first step in order to create NEW missions and totally NEW environments in a fanbased Commandos.

I would also wonder whether it would sell better with the 'classic' commandos movement, or whether the 3rd/1st person "action" style would sell better.

It is very hard to create anything without official support. The fanbase is asking for an editor for years and still is asking... so to answer your question, it would be hard to actually tell...

Iakovos:)

PS. Welcome to these boards, E' ven!!!!

[Jansay]

The old versions please!!

Commandos 2: Men of Courage is the best!

i agree with youuuuu:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D :thumb:


I agree as well. MOC is the best.:thumb:

[sunny-945]

i like commandos 5 as
commandos 2 men of courage
or
commandos 3 destination berlin

with alot of missions and some more

like

challanges

[omid]

hello

does any one know on which date , commandos 5 will be published into the markt ?

thanks.

[Nzap]

hello

does any one know on which date , commandos 5 will be published into the markt ?

thanks.

Seriously, did you read any of the previous posts?
No one knows if another Commandos will be made!!
It's more likely that a new Commandos won't be coming, as SF was such a failure, both critically, and commercially.
However we would love another Commandos for sure.
Still, the four games we have (excluding SF) is IMO enough to keep going.
I, for an example, have played C2 4 times through, and C3 twice.
They're that good.

[Mafia]

Quite the pessimist, aren't you... don't tell that to the men and women living next to France and Belgium! :rasp:



The war was long over when CBEL was released... didn't stop them before.



They aren't real people you know :p:nut: Still we have no idea what has happened to the original team.



It's a game you know... In most fps games there are limits to where you can go in a map...



It was a different team, not the original commandos half dirty dozen. We do not know what has happened to the original team since C3.



LOL



You never know... we thought that CBTCOD was the last, then we thought C2 was the last, then we thought C3 was the last... see my point?

Iakovos:)

Awww, and you took all that so seriously... living in Berlin ehhh? :p

kidding.

well my point is, new tomb raiders come after like... every hour or so :P... i hate such girly games... they did like 78907563456712 games on hitman, fancy star war games which i dont think anybody above age 10 is interested to play... the only fun grown ups had was to play commandos, and now i think the planners at eidos are either on long vacations, or are replaced by some kindergarten students, or they had their brain washed, or they think commandos series is nothing but a load of violence, or .. well there are 5 pages of "OR's" i've typed :D

wanna see?

[Mafia]

hello

does any one know on which date , commandos 5 will be published into the markt ?

thanks.

April 31, 2009

:)

[jenny87]

Haven't played Commandos yet, thank you for the information.

[@m]

April 31, 2009

:)

There has been no announcement of a Commandos 5 even being in development let alone a release date. Please refrain from posting false information.

[Mafia]

There has been no announcement of a Commandos 5 even being in development let alone a release date. Please refrain from posting false information.

Ahem.. i thought you may know that april just has 30 days and you might understand the joke :nut:

oh well.... Never mind

[rg_001100]

Ahem.. i thought you may know that april just has 30 days and you might understand the joke :nut:

oh well.... Never mind

04-27-2009...
Use April-1st for that kind of stuff. :)

[iakovos]

Or 30th of February strikes a chord almost immediately...

Iakovos:)

[Garrulazo]

I've just finished Commandos 2 game (I played before Commandos 3, and so many time ago -nine or ten years- I played the original Commandos game). And now I feel a bit depressed... because I would like to continue! :(

Would be great to have a new Commandos Release, in the line of the three first titles. I'd buy it immediately! :D

[Voicu]

Ideas for next Commandos game:
- style: like Commandos BEL & Commandos BCD
- missions with several solutions, hard to complete
- the difficulty should different from mission to mission ( I mean no choosing difficulty
levels at all ) - I mean at some missions, if there is a military base or some important place,
the enemy should be alert. If there are in some forest or city where it's so to say secured, the
alert level should be less
- some missions could have more than one parts: for example the commando team have escaped
from the germans by leaving a town, city and on the road they encounter other troops which are
stopping them to pass; another idea is the commando team already cleared the town or almost all
the town of germans and unexpected reinforcements can arrive and mess up things
- missions with more than one posibilities of things to happen
- the accessories should be varied, the knapsack should have a calculated space and things
should have weight ( I mean it's not normal, real, to carry 5 guns and for example to run like
when you have an empty knapsack ); if the men are carrying very heavy things they should move
slower & slower by the more things they are carrying
- all guns with finite number of bullets, guns that are heating and need time to recover to be
used again
- the vehicles should have an inventory as well
- the Spy should have a lot of posibilities to choose when dressed in german uniform
- when the shooting between the commando team and german is on doing, a chance of missing
should be taken into account in according to the range, gun used, hour ( if it's day or night ),
maybe even what part of the body is hit, if it's leg then lay down and move very slowly or if it's
the chest after some time the commando guy or the german soldier can die
- another ( optional ) idea is stamina, I mean a caracter after running some distance the
speed should slow down until they can run anymore, if they need recovery fast a thing is to lay
on the ground for a little bit to recover


If it's like the firsts games of Commandos than sure I'm gonna buy it!!!

[sunny-945]

hm so the new come about new commandos game huh

[lover91]

Old style only

[sunny-945]

yes every one like to play old style no one want to play as sf

[sabun]

Commandos 5 should be in C2 style, that's for sure... And a level editor with suppert of modding is all we need.

I can't believe that Pyro missed such a big issue; they did not make a level editor in C2 or C3...

If there was a level editor for the series, we would probably now talking about tenth installement of the game right here ! I believe there would be countless maps which provides never-ending attention of all player from all over the world in last 8 years.

A level editor and a modding support is all we need.

[Le Duke]

Hello everybody !

Don't forget to sign the petition :
http://www.petitiononline.com/commando/petition.html

[AndrewT]

Hello everybody !

Don't forget to sign the petition :
http://www.petitiononline.com/commando/petition.html

38 signatures already? :eek: that's just impressive...

[Le Duke]

Heu, no, that's nothing, we need more signature to make this project concreet.

[Rek]

43 signatures its actualy few :( I think its unfortunately hopeless.

[sunny-945]

now what can we do :(
i mean wth is going on with commandos series

[tonibarelang]

Important : clone commandos 2: men of courage, and call back gonzo suarez for developing back commandos 5 for pyrostudios. More fans of commandos very very disappointed with commandos strike force n destination berlin, so suggest for commandos 5 is :

1. Clone gameplay commandos 2: men of courage

2. More fitur like advice from lock_and_load

3. More n more, again more mission

4. Location, cause ww ii not only at europe or asian. Africa n worlwide can be used as background setting of story commandos 5

5. Always still using true history of ww ii, with little modification not problem i think.

I hope eidos can hear commandos fans voice on worlwide. If not, i think eidos will lost to many fans of legendary games like commandos.

Note : - commandos 1/ behind enemy lines
- commandos 2 / beyond of call duty
- commandos 3 / men of courage
Only 3 games above is the best for commandos fans. Other sequel is failure for pyrostudios and eidos

[AndrewT]

dear toniberlang. many thanks for your enthusiasm, but i think all of us can read normal letters as well : ) absolutley no need for size 20 red capitals, please : )
if the news are correct, the next commandos episode has been in the making for a while now, but this is all we (seem to) know. so the dice is cast, the fans can't really change it's way, and of course it means the good old Gonzo Suarez and his team have been left out of the development.

[Nzap]

if the news are correct, the next commandos episode has been in the making for a while now, but this is all we (seem to) know.

:scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch:

When was this said?
I have only heard a rumor which was shut-down by Pyro themselves a day after it was announced.

[AndrewT]

:scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch::scratch:

When was this said?
I have only heard a rumor which was shut-down by Pyro themselves a day after it was announced.

http://es.linkedin.com/pub/jos%C3%A9-ram%C3%B3n-d%C3%ADaz-mart%C3%ADn/12/85/B53

[Nzap]

http://es.linkedin.com/pub/jos%C3%A9-ram%C3%B3n-d%C3%ADaz-mart%C3%ADn/12/85/B53

Hmm, isn't that dated to 2006?
(I suck at Spanish so I'm quite lost)

[AndrewT]

Hmm, isn't that dated to 2006?
(I suck at Spanish so I'm quite lost)

same here, but i think those are the projects he has been involved since june/july 2006. 4 years into the development of Commandos Next... sounds similar to Blizzards stuff : )

[zenzizenzizenzic]

I would buy it if it returned to the series' origins (with ALL of the commandos). I guess you could say I'm still waiting for a Commandos 4 (a true spiritual successor to the series).

[AndrewT]

I guess you could say I'm still waiting for a Commandos 4 (a true spiritual successor to the series).

as all of us do? ;)

[AndrewT]

All they do is neutralize AI Nazi's.

please mention a few games that are not about "neutralizing AI stuff" in single player mode...

[E'ven]

Commandos is aways about WW2 and always about Nazi's. I think the title is pretty much dead. <snip> All they do is neutralize AI Nazi's.

Exactly what I want from Commandos 4: a game about WW2 which is about neutralizing German soldiers (Nazi or not).
Difficulty the same as BEL please. And in isometric perspective (I think that's what it is called) of course... The perfect game.

[biroattila2009]

Mar varjuk a Commandos kovetkezo kiadasat. Hajra fejleszto csapat !!!! :thumb:

[Nzap]

And to translate that from Hungarian:
"We look forward to the next release of Commandos. (????) development team! "

[AndrewT]

"tally-ho!" :)

however, i really would like to some official statement, concept and material about this game soon.

@xzx: strange ideas about the title... i can maybe agree that a game of this type is not so fashionable or innovative now in 2010, and pyro studios might adjust it a bit to meet the demands, but not this way and not that radically. basically, all that you suggest is to relocate the characters in time and place, which cannot be considered as an improvement. i think most of the commandos fans would be satisfied with the same game, i mean same engine, same characters, whatever as the old classics, but with new maps. me too. but that's not going to happen. i think it will be something like helldorado (desperados 3), with a fully rotatable and zoomable 3d environment, but with keeping the isometric viewpoint as the main game camera, and implementing some new ideas. and conceptionally i expect it to be similar as the starcraft -> starcraft2 evolution, which would be keeping the time-tested elements in a modern design. this might satisfy the fans.

@biroattila2009: how about using some english words? the hungarian language is getting filled up with anglo-saxon loanwords, especially the computer related slang. so why not use it? : )

[sunny-945]

add me in game ranger my nick is sunny945 location pakistan

[tusso]

1 - old style (commandos 1,2 and 3)
2 - lan and online story co-op mode!!! (like 1 and 2... but not 3!!!)

[Alkisen91]

Strike Force isn't even listed as a sequel to the first three games on IMDB. I think the same.

[eidiosplayer]

Ok, Played them all long time ago.....now looking for #5 .... and once a year google the hell out of finding a sign of life....

rarely play games anymore because guesswhat? THEY DONT MAKE THEM THIS GOOD ANYMORE.

As a idea throwiing out there. Some type of Modern middle East conflict with updated characters retaining same "cartoon" type feel..(always was a plus in my book)?? An Afghan strike force with maps to take out Osama Bin Laden for example.

By all means retain gameplay of first 3 commandos...

With this mindset you could easily incorporate night vision goggles, aerial drones, etc..

Wishing myself and everyone else good fortune on this........


:o

[parola18]

hi everyone.
Commandos I am a fan from turkey.c1 c2 c3 games I play over and over again.but I'm tired now.
I look forward to c5.
If you needed a game like that!

(google translation, this translates to :) )

[Rek]

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/08/26/commandos-5-is-coming-next-from-pyro-studios.htm YAAY I noticed it late and all of you probably already know about it but IM SO HAPPY now to know that they are really going to work on commandos 5 :)))

[fompahaha]

YES I WANT TO Buy THIS GAME. commandos is the best game. I want this game to be like commandos 2 + 3d. I will not play this game without persons which were in commandos 2. If the pyro make commandos 6, they will get a lot of money. I will give my money too. I am from Russia.

[Seymon]

hi all, some1 who whant to play on lan post me to seymon18@hotmail.com, but only who whant to play on hard mode and no alarm

[Nzap]

Yea, no new news. Hoping since 03 for a sequel better than SF.

[murtazamm]

http://commandos-5.blogspot.com/

[Cledirlei]

I'm hoping all these years, but nothing of my game. best that has yet to emerge.

Please start making this game.

[rphit]

hi, when you will start develop the game? offcourse with the oldstyle perspective view, but with all the advanced graphics that we've today, when??????????? i searched in everything and nothing new about the new commandos (just please don't do this one as a FPS) i think all we that like commandos series want a new commandos with next gen graphics with old style perspective view, tnx if you can do that

[xzx]

LOL, A new version in new 21st consoles of a game set in the 1940's?
Ya' have to see the crudity of this? I think they made 'Commandos' to scrap on shotty graphics.
They most likely can't make a new 'Commandos' now because the graphics are TOO GOOD! Lo and behold if you are looking for something like a new 'Commandos' they usually are produced when the systems are becoming outdated. 1998, 1999, Sony PS was drooping low! 2006, the XBOX and PS2 were dying. Look and or expect them when the Xbox360 and PS3 are getting to be old news. They'll most likely be swooping in to scrap up with some 'Commandos 5' LOL! When or if thy release an Xbox720 and PS4. They did come out with the Nintendo Wii U. So it should be getting closer.

[wietsebaabNL]

I like to see an new commandos 5 with commandos 2 style and great grafics.
hope to see the papers again to get in the enemy camp whit the spy and hope to see allot of tactics if the games come out.

hope to see an lan/online co-op again

i have read some rumors hope its in developrsment and can be released soon

[benyamin]

HELLO TO EIDOS AND COMMANDOS ((((1-3)))) LOVER'S

I AM FROM ASIA ((( IRAN ))) IN ASIA AND MIDDLE EAST ALL LOVE THE COMMANDOS

COMMANDOS 1 - 3 THE BEST GAME PLAY...BEST SENARIO AND ((worst)) FINE THIS GAME....

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE AND PLEASE MADE AND CREATE THIS BEST OF THE BEST GAME (((COMMANDOS 1 - 3))) COMMANDOS 5 GERMANY((AFRIQA EUROPE)))

NEXT COMMANDOS 6 (((( AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN VIETNAM IRAQ IRAN RUSSIA AND ........))))) IS THE BEST SENARIO....BUT FIRST GERMANY AND ANOTHER REMEMBER COMMANDOS 1 - 3

PLEASE MADE THIS {{{ EIDOS PLEASE MADE THIS }}} ALL WE WAIT FOR YOU

ALL WE WAIT FOR YOU ALL WE WAIT FOR YOU ALL WE WAIT FOR YOU

COMMANDOS 5 : EIDOS BEST OF THE 2013 STRATEGY GAMES

[radomer]

what have they done to old school commandos? i dont like c3 and sf. If they would get back to the good old-days style i´d buy it

YEAH ! Commandos 1 and 2 are SO GREAT !

3 is bad. bad grafics. even the text boxes are so bad. cheap game :( no hotkeys! weird missions (they are for fps and not for strategy games)..

WE WANT commandos 5 to be like the 1 and 2 ! please !!!

[Matoran]

[QUOTE=radomer;1738531]YEAH ! Commandos 1 and 2 are SO GREAT !

3 is bad. bad grafics. even the text boxes are so bad. cheap game :( no hotkeys! weird missions (they are for fps and not for strategy games)..

WE WANT commandos 5 to be like the 1 and 2 ! please !!![/QUO


I agree

[AndrewT]

a next Commandos game in the good old birds-eye view tactical style will never see daylight for sure. the only thing i would love to see, is that Pyro Studios releases a modtools for C2, which makes it easier for a wider range of gamers to create new maps and stuff for our beloved game, but that also won't happen i'm afraid...

[@BrTheman]

Hello,I'm a big fan the commandos 1,2 and 3. I wish it begins to produce commandos 5 in the old style strategic !!!!!!!!!
as fast as possible. No has no way to let a game like this into oblivion !!!!!!
Ohh remember EIDOS the series commandos...

[xzx]

I have seen this before, like at a dead or dying party. They'll think they need more dr*gs or b**ze. If or you are talking to a therapist or psychologist they will say that, "It's YOU who need to change, not your environment.". LOL. Like rich kids will surround themselves with newest stuff but they're never happy. It's all how you see it, if you have a joy inside or a darkness. Playing 'Commandos5' will not fix that, only you can.

[Lantea]

I stumbled on to the Commandos forum and all the fond memories of playing it came back, I really hope they revive the franchise at some point and come out with a new Commandos game.

[sp00kythekiller]

Yes, Lantea. We (all the fans of the Commandos franchise) hope for this. :)

[rphit]

any News about comandos 5????? i'm waiting a lot for this game, thanks.

[sp00kythekiller]

As you can see my post from 30th December, 2012 here (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1831914&postcount=7), I have asked Pyro on Twitter then and they have answered me the following:

Pyro Mobile Games @PyroMobileGames

@sp00kythekiller Unfortunately a new Commandos is not planned... for the time being

[rphit]

As you can see my post from 30th December, 2012 here (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1831914&postcount=7), I have asked Pyro on Twitter then and they have answered me the following:

Pyro Mobile Games @PyroMobileGames

@sp00kythekiller Unfortunately a new Commandos is not planned... for the time being

sorry to hear that, i hope they change their mind and start developing commandos 5.

[sp00kythekiller]

Oops, I'm a bit late to the thread, but I'll say what I think about Pyro now: :rolleyes:

I don't know what is the reason the team to move to develop mobile games (I'll ask them on Twitter soon to see if they will answer me that question), but I think that there's no future in these (mobile) games and there's a very small amount of people that will, or are buying them, so there's no sense in all of that I think, but In my personal opinion, if they were still computer/consoles video game developer, they were going more to succeed in the game industry than now, but as I have said one sentence above - That's my personal opinion.

[rphit]

Oops, I'm a bit late to the thread, but I'll say what I think about Pyro now: :rolleyes:

I don't know what is the reason the team to move to develop mobile games (I'll ask them on Twitter soon to see if they will answer me that question), but I think that there's no future in these (mobile) games and there's a very small amount of people that will, or are buying them, so there's no sense in all of that I think, but In my personal opinion, if they were still computer/consoles video game developer, they were going more to succeed in the game industry than now, but as I have said one sentence above - That's my personal opinion.

you're totally correct, pc gamers need more games, good games, and they would pay for it if it's good. i hope someday they change theirs minds and start developing commandos for pc again.

[xzx]

They just caught a lucky break with this idea is all. As computers were so cheap at that time and running on empty. This game was like the cheap alternative to actually having anything playable and compatible. Then it started getting complicated no doubt when they released Xbox, GameCube and PS-2 because there was so much competition. They were probably just thinking they were losing time and money by not seeking other ventures that'd be hits.

I remember wanting those new cd-rom games like 'Dark Forces' but it was like 59.99 LoL. Ha ha ha. I've still never played that. Then like 'Commandos', 5.00, LoL.

I do get sick of those characters though and the whole WW perspective they've got going. If I was interested in 'Commandos' again it'd have to be like WW 3 or something. That'd be interesting. I've always had this idea about WW 4. That in the future the 'Commandos' etc captured people who actually caused WW 3 and send them back in time to make them prevent WW 3 but if they don't they just die in it! Woo hew! That's 'Commandos 5' !!!

[Nzap]

The only way they'd be able to make a new Commandos would be so that the game can be played either as a fast-paced tactical game for the masses or as a slower more "commandos-style" gameplay for the fans.
The problem is to incorporate both. Commandos 3 gave the option to shoot more and be more violent (like the 15 min run-and-gun mission), but it still didn't gather enough attention.

It's too bad that these types of games aren't "simple" enough for the masses to grasp.
Thankfully we have Commandos 1-3 so that we can play them through over and over again. That's 4 awesome games that lead to 25-100h of gameplay. Can't be displeased about that.

I think we have to accept that the only way Commandos comes back is that for some reason these kind of games gain huge popularity, but I wouldn't count on it.
And we also have the Desperados-series and the 3 games from it (Helldorado is such a great game) to enjoy alongside the Commandos-series, so there is enough content for a long enjoyable time span of gaming.

[xzx]

Game makers are just all about an innovative story. Like Pyro made that 'Planet 51', where a human astronaut lands on an alien planet and he's the alien. It costs about 75M to make and they made over 100M. So if a new Commandos could pull that margin I'm sure they'd go for it.

[xzx]

I think it's also controversially fallen under what they refer to today of graphic images from Iraq etc as 'war-p*rn'. LOL. It's like they say about NASA, that they're just a distraction from what they're really doing in space.

[xzx]

To that to. Germany will ban stuff if it has a swastika in it. Yup! Behind Enemy Lines is banned in Germany! LoL! Was banned because of Nazi references. A lot of countries ban games to for being violent. Venezuela has even gone so far as to ban ALL video games in which you 'shoot people' REALLY !! In November 2009, the Government of Venezuela announced that it would ban all video games in which the objective was to shoot people. The ban was due to widespread violence in the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games