For those people who have had their game crash when viewing the Object Models.

[Mr. Furious]

Eidos want everyone who has had this problem post their video driver version here: http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=58348

This is just typical...can't blame the game, oh no it has no bugs, so let's blame the drivers used or the system the game is running on. :rolleyes:

[munchkin]

Eidos want everyone who has had this problem post their video driver version here: http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=58348

This is just typical...can't blame the game, oh no it has no bugs, so let's blame the drivers used or the system the game is running on. :rolleyes:

sound slike they want eliminate a few other options first, or see fi there a common trend of certain drivers to crash.

doesn;t sound to sinister really, just eliminating all possibilities.


beccaxx

[Mr. Furious]

This is the response that I got from one of the Techs at Eidos:

"This appears to be a rare bug that occurs for a few people, the fact that some people can get in to view this model leads me to believe this is a driver issue. I would recommend waiting for the next release of the video driver and trying this issue again.

Thank you for your message."

Who knows when nVidia will release another version, or if that new version won't experience the same problem.

Can't keep blaming drivers people!!! Examine the game first and when they're 100% sure that the game has no faults, then and ONLY then can they blame old drivers.

[GoranAgar]

Right. New drivers never ever fixed any problems anywhere. I wonder why they still release any. :rolleyes:

[dhama]

Sorry to say this but drivers are to blame for 99% of computer errors....

True software bugs are down to the software companies, like CD for instance, but however much they try to please everyone, there will aways be a few of us that have problems. A fact of life in the world software.

[munchkin]

This is the response that I got from one of the Techs at Eidos:

"This appears to be a rare bug that occurs for a few people, the fact that some people can get in to view this model leads me to believe this is a driver issue. I would recommend waiting for the next release of the video driver and trying this issue again.

Thank you for your message."

Who knows when nVidia will release another version, or if that new version won't experience the same problem.

Can't keep blaming drivers people!!! Examine the game first and when they're 100% sure that the game has no faults, then and ONLY then can they blame old drivers.

ahh sounds like i was right then. If it works okay on many drivers, and not on some specific drivers, it is reasonable to conclude, ti is the drivers at fualt not software.

beccaxx

[Parasite27]

What seems curious is that SOOOOoooooo many people have the same error pop up. And only when viewing the exact same Object Model.
Drivers at fault????
No coding is at fault is more likely the problem. Personally I used the latest drivers available for my vid card as well as rolling back to old drivers and still the game crashes only when viewing that same model.

[Mr. Furious]

Against my better judgement, I installed nVidia's 84.43 Beta drivers that you're talking about on this forum and the game still crashes when Party Female A is viewed.

[ShadowOfOblivion]

I'm sorry but it DOES have something to do with your computer. I apologize that it's happening but if this was Crystal Dynamics' fault, everyone who owned the PC version of Legend would be having these problems. Unfortunately (for you) that is not the case, as more than 75% of the people who own the PC version can view the object models and change outfits.

I'm sorry this is happening to you, but my point is that you cannot blame the PC version of the game when this situation is not universal to all PC players.

[baylisst]

no, you SHOULD blame the pc version, as why should it happen on certain machines, when it should be working without any problems. cd should have detected this problem and either fixed it before releasing or started working on a patch while it was being put onto dvds and packaged. it probably is something on or in my pc that stops it from working correctly, but that doesn't mean my pc is broken. why should i have no bugs with any other game ever (apart from aod :D) and then suddenly have this one come up (thats 82 games btw, i never sell a game)

i do love the game though, its just this little niggle that's a bit annoying. updated from 6.1 to 6.4 drivers from ati and made no difference

[Mr. Furious]

113 games so far installed on my "Broken-down PC" and still not a SINGLE problem with any of them...except for TRL. I can over-clock my system by a factor of 7 for the CPU and 5 for the Video Card, but at their present settings, every other game runs perfectly. I've decided to wait for new Official drivers from nVidia before making further comments.

Either that or Eidos will come out with a patch, whichever comes first.

[Parasite27]

I'm sorry but it DOES have something to do with your computer. I apologize that it's happening but if this was Crystal Dynamics' fault, everyone who owned the PC version of Legend would be having these problems. Unfortunately (for you) that is not the case, as more than 75% of the people who own the PC version can view the object models and change outfits.

I'm sorry this is happening to you, but my point is that you cannot blame the PC version of the game when this situation is not universal to all PC players.

Well of Course there is something wrong with my busted machine hehe
its doing exactly what the coders told it to do.
Hmm maybe I should blame Nvidia cause they didn't anticipate Crystal Dynamics Object files.
While I am at it I am gonna blame Sound Blaster cause I have static coming from my speakers with the game too.
But we know only people with Sound Blaster cards are having those problems so that isn't CD's fault right?
Get real its not the computers fault CD didn't playtest the game before it shipped.

[Leak]

I can over-clock my system by a factor of 7 for the CPU and 5 for the Video Card,
Whoa.

I really wouldn't dare to run my Athlon 64 X2 4400+ at 15.4 GHz and my Radeon X1900 XT at 3.1 GHz.

To each their own I guess... :D

[Mr. Furious]

That's the joys of having a liquid cooled Thermalite chassis where the inside temp is currently at -3 degrees celeus...


*snicker* LOL! *snicker* I said I CAN Over-clock them by those factors, I DIDN'T say they are at those factors right now. If I HAD the above mentioned case, then yes I'd do it. But since I have a standard chassis, I'd have nothing but a great big pile of expensive slag if I did that.

[dhama]

Get real its not the computers fault CD didn't playtest the game before it shipped.

I'm sorry to say this, but if you really think that, then you know nothing about computers. Love your forum name BTW.

[Silver_Rain]

I too get a crash, but only when trying to view the Object models for Kazakhstan:rolleyes: I know of at least one other person who has the exact same problem as well:(

[Parasite27]

I'm sorry to say this, but if you really think that, then you know nothing about computers. Love your forum name BTW.

hehe thanks I like my name too :D

Lets try this....(stay with me now)
My computer is a car it runs fine on gas because it was made to run on gas.
All of a sudden I throw cooking oil in the gas tank and it won't start. Do you suggest I blame the car maker my car won't run?

My computer runs fine with the 80 or so other programs I have meaning I have zero problems with them.
Now install Legend and all of a sudden I have static and distorted sound from the very popular sound card SB live. (Not the first time CD has had sound issues with games btw)
And certain Object files crash my computer to desktop.
Now should I call my compute maker and tell them even though I have 80 programs with no problems running there must be something wrong with my busted ass machine because ONE game has issues?

[GoranAgar]

I have static and distorted sound from the very popular sound card SB live.
Ok, this praise of the Soundblaster Live is just silly. The latest driver for this wonderful piece of technology (I have one myself and no noise with drivers from 2001, btw) is from 2004! A year ago it started that I couldn't play all the games I wanted. I remember Tron 2.0 being one of them. Wouldn't start at all. I had to buy an Audigy (which now my wife has and I am back to the SB Live)

Your analogy is a therefore flawed. You have a 5 year old car and BP releases today a Super 100 fuel for brand new cars.

I usually blame Creative Labs for their crappy driver support. Look at the driver support from ATI and NVidia. See any differences? Or do you really believe the driver software from Creative Labs is flawless?

And are you telling us you have 80 current games installed on your computer and none of them has any sound problems with a two year old driver software?

Have I mentioned that my SB Live has no noise problems after I reduced the settings to basic acceleration?

[Mr. Furious]

Hate to step in, but....

113 games installed (NOT including TRL), Creative Audiggy 2 Sound Card with an almost year old driver, and ABSOULTELY NO sound issues with any of the games...including TRL.

BTW, Creative Labs doesn't have crappy testing of their drivers, it's called being prudent and taking their time to make sure that the drivers are EXTREMELY stable and will work for the cards they're made for.

Like I said, no sound issues on ANY game (new and old) with an almost 1 year old driver. And I should throw in the fact that my sound card is three to four generations old. :D

[GoranAgar]

113 games? Geez, you must swim in money and have loads of time at your hand. :)

How many generations is that for a Soundblaster live then? ;)

"Creative Labs doesn't have crappy testing of their drivers" I never said they make bad drivers. ... when they make them. But in my experience every software is flawed. Don't get me started on the Creative non-driver software. Those are a very high pile of crap. Every now and then I install some of it. And regret it every time. If it comes to Creative, for me, it is drivers-only.

[Mr. Furious]

Given five to six years, you too can have 113 games. :D

The oldest games the are still able to run are Age of Empires, Baldur's Gate and Half-Life. As games get older and technology advances, problems evolve.

And yes, I too can do without those constant updates to Creative Media Source. They could at least postpone those until a new driver is released.

But to each his own. I stand by Creative 100%, never had a problem with them.

[baylisst]

the stuff i got bundled with my xfi card was very nice though, and the only other sound card i've ever bought is an OEM SB live. the rest of the time i've used AC97 and thats ran fine aswell. no probs at all with the xfi though, quality + effects are amazing :)

edit:
plus i started gaming when i was 3, back in 1990 (lemmings on msdos :D), hence the 82 or so games (83, just got oblivion). recently ie in the past 3 yrs, i can still run all of those including stuff like doom, c&c red alert, civs 1+2. i could go on ;)

[GoranAgar]

My wife and I have tons of games as well. But I have like only 5 installed.

[baylisst]

i only have about 10 installed, as i recently had to format my HD, but i have played them all on my current setup and they all work. the only one that dies on me is oblivion, because it's so demanding my pc keeps overheating :rolleyes:

[Leak]

"Creative Labs doesn't have crappy testing of their drivers" I never said they make bad drivers. ... when they make them.
Hey, it's not as if Creative were the only ones lacking in that department - my last card was a Terratec DMX 6fire 24/96 (which wasn't cheap by any means) and the last drivers for that one are 2 1/2 years old and still buggy. :D

That's why I went with an X-Fi Platinum this time - at least it's a widely bought card... :p

np: Landesvatter - Ber. (Lax)

[Parasite27]

Ok, this praise of the Soundblaster Live is just silly. The latest driver for this wonderful piece of technology (I have one myself and no noise with drivers from 2001, btw) is from 2004! A year ago it started that I couldn't play all the games I wanted. I remember Tron 2.0 being one of them. Wouldn't start at all. I had to buy an Audigy (which now my wife has and I am back to the SB Live)

Your analogy is a therefore flawed. You have a 5 year old car and BP releases today a Super 100 fuel for brand new cars.

I usually blame Creative Labs for their crappy driver support. Look at the driver support from ATI and NVidia. See any differences? Or do you really believe the driver software from Creative Labs is flawless?

And are you telling us you have 80 current games installed on your computer and none of them has any sound problems with a two year old driver software?

Have I mentioned that my SB Live has no noise problems after I reduced the settings to basic acceleration?

Actually I do have 80 programs installed hehe not all of them games mind you but most of them :rolleyes:
I get bored easy I guess :D
But I never said SBlive was flawless it has its limits. But to list just a handful of NEW games loaded up and playing fine with this SBlive with four year old drivers that run without a sound problem:
Star Wars EaW
Quake 4
The Godfather
Dungeon Siege 2
Doom 3
And that is just the short list of games, So tell me again why I should have to turn down accel rate on my card to run just ONE game?
Like I said GoranAgar this is now the second time CD has had the same exact sound issue and it was never addressed.
If I was having problems with multiple games I would say its time for a new sound card But this old car runs fine on BP Super fuel 100
Its just that CD tried to sneek in cooking oil instead of gas.
I'm not trying to tick you off GoranAgar I am just not going to let you try to convince me its my soundcards fault TRL has a sound flaw that should be addressed.

[JamesArcher]

creative drivers are generally poor.....with my audigy 2 i have to use the drivers that came on the cd....if i install the new drivers the sound goes all weird like its being sent through the microphone thing.....also when using microphone i got pure feedback and when recording sound or having voice chats on msn people could hear my pc sound.....usually u have to set recording to What U Hear for that.....i installed the old drivers and sound went crystal clear.....same with the live but not as bad....with the new drivers i cant even get microphone to work on my sb live.....install the old drivers and its fine.....i also have an older creative card sound blaster pci 16 or something and the drivers for that just make windows blue screen (no matter what version of windows) luckly windows xp comes with drivers for that......creative really need to get sorted