Vampire Theory

[kaintheantihylden]

At the end of Soul Reaver what happens to the other vampires do they
dye out or what and do they run out of humans. I think all the vampires
will evolve to the point when they can raid the human fortress and kill
every last human or they could gain the ability to eat souls and kill each
other out no more things inhabting Nosgoth.What then? But their is another
ending to this they can eat souls right and so they could war. Imagine huge
Zephonim the size of Zephon himself walking around Nosgoth Rahabim would die
out Turelim would be huge. Melchiaim would die out. Dumahim will become
huge Titans Its the war between the clans for domination of Nosgoth.
If you disagree with this contact me.

[garbagefanuk]

I can give you the original ending of Soul Reaver if you like, before it was split off and made into a second game. The game entailed u going through Turels land and reaching Kain and finally killing him, then u go back to the silent cathedral and u use the weapon and open all the pipes killing every vampire in the land.

But that was the original ending, most likely they'll just continue to devolve and the humans will live their time in the city until Kain dies and the pillars are restored or the world finally tears itself apart.

[Mighty_Matt]

well with all vampire clans completely leaderless (no organsised attack or defense) and with the Humans continueing their advances (anyone else notice they had lightbulbs!??), they'd probably eventualy gain enough power to wipe out all vampires

but they still couldn't restore balance so the world would eventualy destroy itself most likely

[Mathew P.K.]

With their leader gone the vamps would most likely end up storming the human keeps for the blood of the humans. in the end they would destroy the balance of vamp to human ratio. The vamps would not die, they are already dead. As far as becoming soul reavers like raziel well in the start of SR1 Razial was thrown in the abyss and was burned for a few hundred years before becoming as we all love him today. The chance of the rest of the vampire to become that way is very slim.

[Angel of Music]

Well, let me tell you a story, a story about one-cheeked efforts.
See, all of the games have had content cut, and part of SR1 that was cut was the ending. Raziel is supposed to destroy Kain at the end of SR1, and return to the Silenced Cathedral, activate the weapon there, and wipe Nosgoth of the vampire plague...... Alas, this is not in line with making money from sequels..... and the game just wasn't finished upon release. Kind of like SR2, and BO1, and Fable, and BO2.

[Alastor]

You all can speak for yourselves. As far as I know, those humans are living their lives out happy and care free. How do I know this? Easy... because there were simply no vampires left after I got through with that era. :D To keep them that way, I impaled, burned or drowned each that I came across (not reaving their souls).*sighs and thinks to self - those were good times* The humans will only have to worry about the retard who removes the staff from one of the corpses. :mad:

[Riovanes]

Wait... Wha...?

In the words of Willow...

"'Splodie in my brain cage!!!"

[Mazeura]

Originally posted by Angel of Music
Well, let me tell you a story, a story about one-cheeked efforts.
See, all of the games have had content cut, and part of SR1 that was cut was the ending. Raziel is supposed to destroy Kain at the end of SR1, and return to the Silenced Cathedral, activate the weapon there, and wipe Nosgoth of the vampire plague...... Alas, this is not in line with making money from sequels..... and the game just wasn't finished upon release. Kind of like SR2, and BO1, and Fable, and BO2.

How would killing kain make any sense? The franchise is called "Legacy of Kain" . :eek:

[kakarot]

^^^
there's a really small part in there that says:

all of the games have had content cut...

and


this is not in line with making money from sequels.....


;)

[Wyrd Norse]

How would killing kain make any sense? The franchise is called "Legacy of Kain" .

My theory goes that Amy wanted to Kill of Kain with her character so that she could make Raziel the hero in future sequels.. I imagine he would survive the bells of death, either by not dieing at all, or by going into the spirit world and being able to return anytime after that like before.

Then the sequil would be easy.. not all the vampires were killed.. some new threat.. anything.. only now Raziel is the hero and no more Kain..

the sequil wouldn't have even been called Legacy of Kain anymore, but rather the non specific "Soul Reaver 2: Wrath or Raziel" or something stupid like that..

Keep in mind the first game is not Legacy of Kain but Blood Omen.. so how easy would it be to carry the franchise but not the character.. That way she takes this world and this franchise and gets to use only her characters (having killed off Ariel as well)

But lucky for us all delays caused the game to take a different direction and Kain got his game series back..

anyways.. to answer the question I think that the vampires would exist the same as before, their leaders weren't doing much for them anyways. Dumah had been out for so long but his tribe wasn't exactly wiped out.

eventually they would fight eachother for dominance and continue to plague the world of Nosgoth until either the humans win out, or they wipe out the humans.

[The Elder God]

I would have really liked to see Raziel being a hero, not just a pawn as he was throughout most of the series.

[dumah's wraith]

i thought a good idea for a game'd be post sr:the leaderless clans unite and form a treaty with the humans north half/south half or something.the few surviving razielim, who escaped their fate are stirring the humans to war.you a lowly dumahim must infiltrate the human camp and assasinate as many razielim[who have evolved into huge bats] as he can.

in reflection, thats crap and i'm off topic.

why did raziel kill his brothers. he didn't know he needed their abilities

what a stupid post

[Zulgbrtzchllha]

My theory goes that Amy wanted to Kill of Kain with her character so that she could make Raziel the hero in future sequels.. I imagine he would survive the bells of death, either by not dieing at all, or by going into the spirit world and being able to return anytime after that like before.

Then the sequil would be easy.. not all the vampires were killed.. some new threat.. anything.. only now Raziel is the hero and no more Kain..

the sequil wouldn't have even been called Legacy of Kain anymore, but rather the non specific "Soul Reaver 2: Wrath or Raziel" or something stupid like that..

Keep in mind the first game is not Legacy of Kain but Blood Omen.. so how easy would it be to carry the franchise but not the character.. That way she takes this world and this franchise and gets to use only her characters (having killed off Ariel as well)

But lucky for us all delays caused the game to take a different direction and Kain got his game series back..

anyways.. to answer the question I think that the vampires would exist the same as before, their leaders weren't doing much for them anyways. Dumah had been out for so long but his tribe wasn't exactly wiped out.

eventually they would fight eachother for dominance and continue to plague the world of Nosgoth until either the humans win out, or they wipe out the humans.

I noticed that it's Blood Omen too. I have a feeling that if that seires had continued, the sequals might have been something like Blood Omen: Legacy of Vorador or Blood Omen: Legacy of Janos.

[dumah's wraith]

At the end of Soul Reaver what happens to the other vampires do they
dye out or what and do they run out of humans. I think all the vampires
will evolve to the point when they can raid the human fortress and kill
every last human or they could gain the ability to eat souls and kill each
other out no more things inhabting Nosgoth.What then? But their is another
ending to this they can eat souls right and so they could war. Imagine huge
Zephonim the size of Zephon himself walking around Nosgoth Rahabim would die
out Turelim would be huge. Melchiaim would die out. Dumahim will become
huge Titans Its the war between the clans for domination of Nosgoth.
If you disagree with this contact me.

well,in sr, none of the clan grunts had nearly reached the stage of their leaders, surely some of them must be nearlyas old as them.i think that the adult vampires in sr have reached their peak, the leaders more deformed because they're imbued with a fragment of kains soul

[soothsayer]

For the Razeliam disappearance I have 4 theories.
1. Kain had them ordered to be wiped out for something to do with creating the perfect timeline.
2. The Razieliam, in anger for their master's execution they waged war on the other clans, a war they simply couldn't win.
3. The Razieliam, in despair for their master's execution flung themselves into the abyss.
4. The no longer trusted the other clans after what they did to Raz and moved to some isolated part of Nosgoth.
It may also be some combination of these.
Though, no matter what, it's equally likely that there, are or not, survivors left.

For the Post SR era, I have my own theory.

Without their leaders, the clans lost their hive like mentality, but regained some humanity.
Being less organized, and more self protective, The humans were able to reclaim much territory.
But the clans were no weaker than before, they now moved in marauding packs.
Humanity must scrape out a living behind fortified walls, while the packs increase in boldness.
Humanity, while in the silenced cathedral repair it's works.
The pillars are then somehow repaired, likely by Kain.
A deadly sonic blast is released from the cathedral, destroying the vampires bodies, while the the pillars while being rebuilt draw every disembodied wraith into the pillars, as a means of charging them.
Does Kain survive this? Will the seer?
Assuming the seer survived the first binding it must be possible to escape another?

[Zulgbrtzchllha]

I figured that Kain had Raziel's clan wiped out just to tick off Raziel, and to give him no allies when he finally came back.