Bah

[lbray]

I bought the game today, there are NO problems with it. My suggestion is to uprgrade yer comp and make sure u have downloaded all yer current drivers. The game is awesome. My only problem is tryin to solve the mission I am on hehe. Good luck!

[lbray]

BTW my specs are:
AMD ATHLON 2200
GeForce FX5900 Ultra
512K 2700 mem
Soundblaster Live Value

So u see I dont have the ultimate system but the game runs smooth as glass:)

[riggs58]

Seems like everyone running a nvidia card is having no performance problems whatsoever while us Radeon users are left wondering why it runs so sluggish. I guess nvidia "is the way it's meant to be played" - go figure :rolleyes:

[miek]

just wait until half-life 2 comes out, buddy.
me and my radeon 9800 pro will rule the world.

[zombie23]

I'm running an ATI 9700 Pro which I was able to get at the bargain basement price of $400 a year and a half ago. It is a DX-9 compliant card with 128MB DDR, but it is struggling with this game. I have the resolution set to only 800X600 and it is hanging in there. somehow. Everything set at the minimum. sucks. Guess I could go and get one of those new nVidia 6800 heaters--the 110 watt kind. Then I would be smiling (and so would the electric company). I think they should come up with a new spec for video cards--Frames Per Watt. That would put things in perspective.

[SYNOPTIX]

i got a 9800pro 128mb, 1 gig ddr, athlon 2000.... the game is maxed on video options and it runs smooth and hardly ever goes slow... you people are having computer probs :rolleyes:


oh and yea as for the title of this post... yup i never listen to anyones opinion about games before i buy the game, you need to buy the game first to see if you like it or not

[HaVoK-G2]

Im running on a: P4 3ghz, 1gig ddr500, dual 80 gig hds, audigy gamer, and a geforce ti4600 (Waiting for the 6800 Ultra "Extreme" or will just get the ultra in late june when the prices go to $499) (running latest nvidia drivers, I forget the number *shrug*)

Runs good at 1024x768, runs ok at 1280x1024 both at medium details. Cant wait to get a new card, have had the ti4600 since it came out and its been a great stable card.

On my little brothers pc I just built (P4 3.2 ghz, 1gig ddr400, 80gig sata, SB Live 5.1!, Radeon 9800 Pro AIW) It runs excellent at full details with Cat 3.5s.

Maybe those that have problems have a mix of hardware/software/driver conflicts that they need to work out, or just need a nice clean format with the newest drivers/mobo bios etc.. installed.

So far having alot of fun, although im pretty mad I havent figured out a way to throw knocked out servants into the oven/furnace in the kitchen on the first level.

[grafixmonkey]

try swapping out for a couple different driver versions and see if it improves. I thought I saw someone mentioning driver problems, I think with version 4.5? Sorry, I'm far too lazy to go look for it at this time of night when I could be playing morrowind instead. :D

[riggs58]

This is ridiculous, why must us Radeon users always wait for ATI to release a new set of drivers to address problems of newly released games. I still have a set of unused 3D glasses because ATI doesn't want to release stereo drivers. I'm seriously thinking about going back to nvidia, I've already got a 550watt power supply - bring it on.

[BigPimpin]

Heh, on my Radeon machine I am running at 60fps in most sections.

[grafixmonkey]

ATI writes very poor software. I could write a page or three about the things that are in my ATI drivers that are either blatantly broken, work but cause conflicts with other settings and only make things difficult, or are just plain retarded and make me wonder if their drivers team is taking their medication.

[jaycw2309]

Originally posted by grafixmonkey
ATI writes very poor software. I could write a page or three about the things that are in my ATI drivers that are either blatantly broken, work but cause conflicts with other settings and only make things difficult, or are just plain retarded and make me wonder if their drivers team is taking their medication.

They used to be terrible, ie would release a driver to fix Game A and not care it broke Game B-Z, then they got their act together, but seem to have slipped back into their `patch the driver for the game` mentality. Cat 4.4 was a `FarCry` fix (or was it 4.3 that was - i cant remember).

[grafixmonkey]

And of course, us XP owners can't just have a partition for each driver version and select it on boot... :rolleyes: /me hates activation.

[KenH]

Originally posted by riggs58
Seems like everyone running a nvidia card is having no performance problems whatsoever while us Radeon users are left wondering why it runs so sluggish. I guess nvidia "is the way it's meant to be played" - go figure :rolleyes:

I'm not having any probs at all with my Radeon 9800 pro being sluggish.

I'm running the 4.5 cats and the game has got to be at about 40 - 50 fps constantly - and thats with my pretty tame processor(s)

Dual 1900 MP's
1 gig pc266
radeon 9800 pro
1024x768 maxed out sliders

[grafixmonkey]

Sweet!!111!!!!!1!!!111!!11! That's the card I have! I was starting to be worried. I've seen enough positive feedback I think I'm gonna go pick this up tomorrow.

[Judas Iscariot]

The way you computer folks throw around random numbers and letters like that and know what you're talking about boggles my mind.

"Will my FP500X QR93D run?"

"Well yeah, but only if you add on a 5.1ghz SDRAM 92400 SRH."

[Heresy_Fnord]

I as well have an ATI card and have no complaints.

Most likely you have other issues if the game is running badly.

My system:

AMD XP 2400+
1gb DDR 333Mhz
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb (Retail ATI card)
SB Live Audigy 2 ZS Platinum

[grafixmonkey]

Originally posted by Judas Iscariot
The way you computer folks throw around random numbers and letters like that and know what you're talking about boggles my mind.

"Will my FP500X QR93D run?"

"Well yeah, but only if you add on a 5.1ghz SDRAM 92400 SRH."

They're just product names and model numbers. You should hear someone talk about CARS. That gets truly incomprehensible. At least computer model numbers are fairly intelligently organized:

Radeon: graphics card made by ATI
8500 is oldest card that can run the game.
Cards that will run it reasonably well are 9600 through 9800 and the new x800.
Higher numbers means a faster card, with the exceptions:
XT means "faster version"
SE means "severely castrated 'special' version, as in special olympics"

Geforce: graphics card made by nVidia
3: oldest that will play the game.
4: models from two years ago or so.
FX: this year's models that are just giving way to the new one
6800: new model just being released.
A number after the 3, 4, or FX, indicates one of several models released within that line, higher is faster (within that line, the 5200 for example is slower than the slowest geforce 4)
XT means "value oriented, slightly slower version, but not castrated like the radeon SE is"
Ultra means "much faster version"

MX means "has been castrated and had all four limbs and both ears cut off, been given a brain transplant from a cow, bound, gagged, and then been chained securely to a spot in the yard to prevent it from accidentally rolling anywhere."


Everything is made much easier by benchmarks, which are simple lists of a number of cards that have been tested to see which ones run faster, and had the data put into a bar graph.

Hope this helps shoppers. Well, no wait, I know it won't, because I've posted card buying guides twice already and they just get buried. :rolleyes: Oh well...

[jaycw2309]

Originally posted by grafixmonkey

Higher numbers means a faster card, with the exceptions:
XT means "faster version"
SE means "severely castrated 'special' version, as in special olympics"


XT by ATI means faster, but if you are nVidia, then XT actually means `cut down` not faster...

the GeForce FX 5600XT card is a cut down 5600 (like it needed cutting down at all!)

Go Figure, they like to confuse. :)

[grafixmonkey]

Yeah that's why that's under the ATI section. Had to divide it up. Some companies actually ignored nVidia's naming scheme and used ATI's 'SE' denomination on their nVidia cards too.

[meskalin]

I have the 9800XT and the games runs great at high settings. I play it at 1280x1024. Hope fully by the time Half Life 2 comes out I wont have to upgrade.

Specs:
AMD 3200XP+
Gigabyte 7NNXP
2x Corsair XMS 3200CL 512
ATI Radeon 9800XT
Audigy 2

[CircuitsEdge]

With that rig you will definitely NOT have to upgrade for HL2. That Source engine they have is super-sweet, imagine Thief running on Source instead on Unreal.. ohhhh yeah.

[VoidHawk]

Originally posted by grafixmonkey
MX means "has been castrated and had all four limbs and both ears cut off, been given a brain transplant from a cow, bound, gagged, and then been chained securely to a spot in the yard to prevent it from accidentally rolling anywhere."


LMAO


Well I got an ATI 9800 Pro and have no problems at all maxed out. Only thing I do is disable Norton. I run nothing else in the background, makes a huge difference in my FPS if I leave 4 or 5
programs running.

The 4.4 catalyst drivers work fine, 4.5 is buggy as hell with TDS.
Seems there are plenty of people having problems with NVidiot cards on this game to. Personally I reckon the amount of *Expletive Deleted* you have running at the same time is a major cause of slowdown.

[Guineapiggy]

It strikes me that there are just a lot of people making up crap about it not running properly on their 'amazing computers' and going on about 'how bad the graphics are'. We'll ignore the second one, anyone with half a brain know's that's trolling, but the first -

I have a R9700 (A 9500pro + 4.4 Omega drivers running as a 9700), XP Pro (Cut unnesicary services.), 512mb PC3200, an NF7S Nforce 2 motherboard, an XP2500+ CPU and I run this game at:
800 x 600
Full detail
X4AA x4AF

And guess what? It's smooth! Shock of the century :eek:

If you are having problems on a system close to or better than mine in any way, (Even WITHOUT the filtering, as so many claim.) then you have clearly left a virus scanner running in the background or have 500 things open, have installed too much garbage on your system, have found a genuine bug or are LYING. (At no one individual, of course.)

[styphon]

runs great on my 9800pro 256 at 1024 X 768 with all the settings (except multisampling) maxed.

runs okay at 1280 X 1024 but I'm a stickler for high frame rates so I'd have to bump settings down a tad to get the performance I want at this resolution.

Only running a p4 2.4ghz. 800mhz fsb. 1gig ddr400. Probably will buy a pentium prescott soon when their prices come down.. just found out my mobo supports them (despite the fact it hit the market almost a year ago) :D

[grafixmonkey]

The 4.4 catalyst drivers work fine, 4.5 is buggy as hell with TDS.
Is that why I have these problems with shadows being incorrect and popping all over the place? Mes be installers thems oldery driverings! Sneaksie ATI, mes deading it if mes ever catchers it!

nVidiot
Hey nvidia has a lot going for them. The R9800 I have will be my last ATI card, because I hate hate HATE their drivers. They're the buggiest things I've ever seen. Every other version breaks a bunch of games, some of the settings don't remember their values, SmartGart insists that AGP is "Off" in my system, and they even have settings in their drivers that are redundant with windows native monitor support and make you fight with drivers to get your desktop running at proper refresh rates. Plus nVidia has refresh rate overrides for games built in to the drivers! I love playing older games like UT and Thief 2 at 85 to 100 Hz! It's unbelievable how much more the perfectly smooth motion adds to the game than the fancy graphics features do. I can spin the mouse as fast as I want in the original UT, and still see my enemies smoothly track across the screen. ATI cards however make me run at 60Hz. Hey, fine if I had a flat panel LCD screen. But I don't, for that reason.

Oh and don't even bother trying to run dual screen on an ATI card. Friend of mine got an R9600 and a second LCD screen for that purpose, and it was so incredibly bad at dual screen compared to nVidia drivers, that he returned the card, sucked up the 15% restocking fee, and got an FX 5900XT.