Do Disguises Even Work????

[exo]

Hey I just bought the game and started up training mode to work off the rust.

After I finish up the firing range I head on over to the sneak training, pop the first guy in the head, pick up his aug and perform the time honoured tradition of transferrance of ownership of ones clothing for another.

Liking my new duds, I trot off further down the hall, now I'm wearing the same gear as these guys and even using the same weapon as them(the aug)... yet everytime I pass by them, even when I hug the far wall... they go into alert as soon as they see me. What gives???

I swear if it's because I'm holding a weapon EXACTLY like thiers I am SOOO returning this game. I mean come on seriously, I can accept the fact that this game is a rehash of sorts and there is practically NOTHING new about the game when it comes to features and that it's more of an expansion pack than an actual new game, but what the heck? I'm getting attacked because I'm using the exact same weapon everyone else that I'm disgused as is carrying?

If that's the reason all I can say is, #### this game.

[mrdie]

its the Training level you dumbass, plus they got a SUSPICTION meters, jesus christ, play the acutal levels first before you *****.

[AutomaticMan]

It's sneak training. At that part you sneak. Diguises come later in that part. Those guards always detect you unless you sneak right. Regardless of clothing, it's programmed that way. Play the actual missions and it is different depending on the situation. Obviously your disguise won't work if the target knows the character you're disguised as. Or if you tranquilized someone and he wakes up and says his clothes are missing. But for the most part they work well, and is nearly impossible to achieve SA rank on some levels without disguising yourself (ie
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RotterDam's first level, Beldingford Manor, Lee Hong Assasination)

[exo]

Right, a guy sneaking around with an aug in a disguised suit is LESS suspicious than a guy walking at a normal gate in a disguised suit with an aug.

Logic at its best.

And btw, how exactly are you supposed to sneak right? I figure staying on the far side of the hall farthest from them sneaking would do it.. obviously not.

[homercles]

Originally posted by exo
Right, a guy sneaking around with an aug in a disguised suit is LESS suspicious than a guy walking at a normal gate in a disguised suit with an aug.

Logic at its best.

And btw, how exactly are you supposed to sneak right? I figure staying on the far side of the hall farthest from them sneaking would do it.. obviously not.

You, my friend, are obviously not a smart man. Please dont breed....

[exo]

Originally posted by homercles
You, my friend, are obviously not a smart man. Please dont breed....

This coming from a guy who describes the technique of sneaking past the guards as 'sneaking right'. Anyways, my ***** was that if the entire game was like this I'd more than likely return it. Thankfully it's not.

Thanks for the obscure and very poor advice, a simple 'the sneak training's screwy like that'. It's the internet though, you people try to appear smarter than you really are. Must be trying to make up for something. No worries. ^^

[KillsForFun]

exo don't worry about those other poeple. They have been molested before by giant monkeys.

Anyways, I felt the same way you did when I first went into the training. Get into the game first. The first mission the same thing will happen with a certain comstume. The rest of the game however I don't think you will have that problem.

[exo]

Originally posted by KillsForFun
exo don't worry about those other poeple. They have been molested before by giant monkeys.

Anyways, I felt the same way you did when I first went into the training. Get into the game first. The first mission the same thing will happen with a certain comstume. The rest of the game however I don't think you will have that problem.

Thanks, at a NON Kiddy forum someone replied with USEFUL information.

From: Foxx3k | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:16:18 AM | Message Detail

Some people say they can holster their weapons and Swat still won't fire at them, but I've always had to drop ALL my weapons (even holstered) to be able to walk by them.
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X-Fire name: MegaMan3k
Currently Playing: Call of Duty (MegaMan3k), Battlefield Vietnam

Hope this helps anyone else who just wanted to get through with it trying to work within the constraints of the situation getting over the fact that the disguise should have worked.

[AutomaticMan]

I've carried a shotgun at the ready right past swat without blowing my cover in the first level. And about the training ... I think you just suck Exo, you can sneak past the guards in training, figure it out. You are an idiot, staying against the farthest wall doesn't help you, THERE IS A BIG LIGHT RIGHT THERE. Try a darker area. Freaking n00b trying to sound better than everyone. Lame.

[C_Villain]

The disguises seem to work pretty good so far in as much of the game I played (i didnt really test the training that much either so im not sure on how good that is). In the actuall game levels you dont alert the guards really at all just by walking by which is nice unless your going to a suspicious area. In the Meat King Mission i just walked in and shot the fat *** with a silenced weapon and holstered my gun and walked out and no one that went by me the gaurds or the ladies expected me of anything. It was alot better then in H2 where even in full costume your alert bar went up for nothing.

[hipnocat]

I noticed in mainly the assylum level, that if you are wearing a swat uniform, the only way you can pass by other swat team members is to RUN past them, otherwise they look at you too long, and you get caught. Its actually the opposite to hitman 2, if you ran around too much in that game, your suspicion meter went up heaps.
i think its way less suspicious of you if you walked past.

This isn't a big enough problem to return the game over though.

[Tad16116]

first of all who cares sneak training is very gay all training is gay
who cares if u cant get by them its not a problem play real f****** missions

[AutomaticMan]

That's what I've been saying Tad, I've been playing the missions to much to care about the training. I have SA on every mission except the final one on expert. After I do that I'm gonna go for Professional and take the leap to no saving. I love this game.

Hipnocat, the reason running is less suspicious in some areas is because the guards in that area are running from room to room searching. I went out the front door and had to walk to get by there. Just use the logic or what they are doing.

[ExhalE]

Does saving the game, have any influence on the final outcome, i mean for getting a SA?

[Kieran_Y]

"Right, a guy sneaking around with an aug in a disguised suit is LESS suspicious than a guy walking at a normal gate in a disguised suit with an aug.

LOGIC AT ITS BEST. "

Not trying to prove anything here or calling anyone obtuse, but I'm sorry but I just have to say one thing... Please, Please, Please make sure you re-read any statements that conclude with an audacious comment. To make things clear, try sneaking into your local seven eleven with a very low profile to buy a amgazine at the end of the shop. See what the clerk does. Next enter the seven eleven as normal people would. Notice a difference?

Normall a comment above would just go by, but adding "LOGIC AT ITS BEST" seriously just drove me nuts.

[Laokin]

Wow Exo you are a total dip*****. If you hug the wall furthest from them and sneak, They see you sneaking! If you hug the wall closest to then and sneak they dont see you sneaking becasue you are behind that lil wall thingy. And NO disguise works in the sneak training... Thats why it's SNEAK training, ya know training you to use the "Sneak" function. I do believe that an was right when he said you shouldn't breed.

Sorry if this has been said, but I hadn't the patience to read the whole entire post.