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so...Raziel has a circular destiny....
think it like this, it's a circle, Raziel's destiny, right? well, what if through Kain, he left this circle, but not on the outside, but through the middle, the interior. Kain carries him forward, and then, when he reaches the edge, Kain sacrifices himself, or is killed in some way, maybe by the Reaver, and Raziel is set free, outside the circle. how does that sound?
03-19-2004, 01:35 PM
i dont get it
03-19-2004, 01:43 PM
i don't get it either. What are you talking about anyway, lol.
Could this make it easier? it's another version of my explanation, hope it's better
but today i remembered it! so here goes
Raziel, can escape his destiny through Kain. When you look at the Pillars's stand, you can see there's a big circle, and somewhere inside a smaller one. well, Raziel's way around the circle goes round and round right? well, from the bigger circle, two lines come out, on the interior (the two Raziels), they come to the smaller circle, but from it, only one leaves, and goes out, pass the big circle of his destiny and ends between the Pillars of mind and dimension. well....The wraith blade Raziel, purifies Kain, but that doesn't mean it disappears, it goes on through him. so what if Kain, now that he is purified, gous out of the Wheel of Fate, but through it interior. maybe, when he reaches the edge again, he will make a sacrifice (either way he has to die, but a sacrifice would be the best way), and Raziel would be released from him through it, and moved outside the circular destiny.
'all secrets are shown' they are shown at the Pillars, and Raziel means Secret of God, so there's a connection.
Jonaleth, you were right till that point, but Raziel, the Wraith Blade goes into Kain purifying him, and continues to go on through him.
03-20-2004, 09:28 PM
Very thoughtful idea indeed. HEy maybe i could use that idea to write the sequel to the game. Hopefully the LOk Development team agrees though.
nononononono! i am already using that idea for a sequel, sorry i've got it tmed :)
03-20-2004, 11:15 PM
I get it now :)
03-21-2004, 03:32 PM
are you talking about the elemental diagram of the underground pillar chamber? or the wheel of fate depiction which we see in the sarafan stronghold's lake and some Defiance murals? and why do you think this represents Raziel's destiny?
no, the one from the Pillars, look here
and i associated it with raziel's destiny because.....i really want raziel to return and it fits pretty good. i always thought the Pillars had some more secrets...
03-22-2004, 11:05 PM
Cool Card. You pick the right CArd out of the Deck. I think you got a strong point there. LEt's hope, well actually, I for one already know that Raziel is coming back.
does anyone know if the symbols at the Pillars mean something, and did you notice that the circle from SR2 is a lot different from the other ones? and that the smaller one is also different; in SR1 we can see a line through it, at the opening movie, but in Defiance we can see it's different...could this have something to do with changing history? it couldn't cause the Pillars were raised way before Raziel and Kain changed history...hmm, any oppinions?
03-24-2004, 03:35 AM
propably just artistic licence. like the wraith blade.
i got some pics of the circle in the pillars stand
we can see here what we see in the SR2 circle and what we can also see here:
a bit changed no?
in the opening movie of SR1 we can see only one line through it, unfortunately i don't have a pic of that. it can't just be artistic license. it must be more.
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