What makes 47 diff?

[Robert Rath]

I've seen posts where people keep repeating that its possible that compassion is the reason for his difference...maybe this is far off what is really the reason?

We have yet to witness how 47 handles... Love. If compassion is what makes him more efficient, then how did he develop it? Maybe he was the only model that came in contact with such a feeling by being allowed to have something he must take care of instead of destroy.

Why would compassion make him a more efficient cleaner? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Wouldn't compassion make him "wet behind the ears" as they say? Causing him to make more mistakes because of fear of the well-being of other loved ones ... then again, the rabbit was the only time he has experienced such a feeling which was in 1972... wouldn't such a feeling have faded away?

Then again... we do not know if that was the only time...

[Alexlovesguns]

He is bald, ugly and cold. He is also a clone and a hired assassin.
Hitman is diferent because he loves guns and death and takes his job very seriously, doesnt speak much, doesnt arrive home complaining about a tough day at work, etc. Ofcourse he is also human and should enjoy female company (love? Compation? sex?) unless he is impotent or castrated:eek: . What horrors was he submited during cloning? What have they done to him so he would lose the sense of human life value and preservation?
Poor 47:( ...

[carmageddonstein]

Has no one seen Equilibrium? Compassion is not a hindrence: compassion is a relation. In being able to relate, you are able to react, and in reacting you become efficient. Take Preston. Without his permission. I dare you. Why? Because he understands you. He knows what you are going to do, and because he has this connection with you, he f****ng destroys you.

47: We don't actually know that he is male. He is based on males, true, but we don't know that he is. Castration may have nothing to do with it. He may simply not be "equipped". No wonder he's so ruthless. Further, he's not ugly. No call girl would actually fall for an ugly man. Obviously, she see's something in him.

[Alexlovesguns]

Originally posted by carmageddonstein
Further, he's not ugly. No call girl would actually fall for an ugly man. Obviously, she see's something in him.
Hitman is ugly and the call girl could have eye problems or need for glasses, so that was his chance of getting some but he backed her off because he isnt "equiped" for that mission:p .
Puting romance in the game would definetly blow 47´s ice cold assassin character that we all like. I say we keep his private life for himself:D .

[Psycho Raptor]

he is a male, the hooker wanted him. he just wasnt programmed with emotions, but for some reasons hes getting some(h2) hopefully he will end up with the hooker from 1 and 2 she was good for him.

[yanxi]

Well.... Why wouldn't 47 be efficient and different from everyone else? It only make sense. If you go back to the Hitman Journal, on the hitman 2 website, you will have a better understanding of what 47 had to go through to become what he is today. He (a) Never experience a mother's love. (b) Never been taken care before (other than 3 meals a day) and (c) Reciving gun traning every single day. Plus he is in a lock down hidden facility with gurads every where and also he is lock down in a single room by himself for about the first 20 years of his life. Put yourself in 47's shoe and think what would you be like if you never had love or even a childhood?:( . The reason 47 don't understand those thing is not because he was "programmed" not to love but only because he have never experience one, so there is no trouble for him to kill somebody else. So, is 47 Brutal, Efficient and Passionless? I think most definately.

[IronChitlin]

The difference is that 47 has feelings.

He may be able to suppress his emotions during a mission but afterwards feels regret, that is why he left that life and tried to live peacefully at Gontranno. He doesnt enjoy killing but he is always forced into situations where that is his only option.

After H2, 47 leaves Gontranno. He leaves trying to find his own truth. I believe now, 47 is not going to kill just because someone told him to, he is now going to judge for himself who deserves to die.

He isnt cold and heartless, he's really a tragic character who was built to do one thing, however he despises what he is. But it seems to me that 47 will now use his natural gifts for the good of everyone.

[Robert Rath]

Originally posted by IronChitlin
The difference is that 47 has feelings.

He may be able to suppress his emotions during a mission but afterwards feels regret, that is why he left that life and tried to live peacefully at Gontranno. He doesnt enjoy killing but he is always forced into situations where that is his only option.



Indeed, 47 is more human then most people think. If this was not so ... he would have never left the profession. He went to a location where he was surrounded by faith and the belief that someone loves him, God.

If I'm not mistaken, he says something about the Lord to the priest, questioning if he would be judged different because he was not created the same...

Indeed, he is not passionless... He has feeling.

... Just a thought.

[Alexlovesguns]

47 is what we the players want him to be, we cant say his assigned targets are huh..."nice people". When he has a assassination to do it can be done in alot of ways, some play only for SA status, others go mass murderer and open M60 fire on civilian croud, we cant say he is good or bad, it all depends of the player. right?

[Robert Rath]

Originally posted by Alexlovesguns
47 is what we the players want him to be, we cant say his assigned targets are huh..."nice people". When he has a assassination to do it can be done in alot of ways, some play only for SA status, others go mass murderer and open M60 fire on civilian croud, we cant say he is good or bad, it all depends of the player. right?

No, your wrong there. Not what we are really talking about. If you go for SA status or mass murderer... Its still murder. Does not make you good or bad ... so It does not depend on the player... for right now. In Hitman: Contracts it might change being that rumors have said that you may be abel to not execute the contract if you do not want. If that is so ... then you would be right.

47's profession does not make him a good person or bad. Its just a profession.

"Some people would argue that in taking the life of another after premeditation, you act as God -- judging and issuing a death sentence. But it is the employer, the man who pays for the service, whatever his reason might be, who acts as judge. The hit man is merely the executioner, an enforcer who carries out the sentence. " - Rex Feral

This thread was for ideas on why 47 is a more efficient executioner ... not if he is good or bad.

[Alexlovesguns]

This thread was for ideas on why 47 is a more efficient executioner ... not if he is good or bad.
So.. wether he´s eficient or not also depends of the player, you see if you start the game without pressing any keys the Hitman is nothing, usualy 47 is not a very eficient executer without some retries and savegames:p .
And yes Hitman is the executer but all his targets are scum so we dont know if 47 would accept a contract to take out a nice old lady, but we know that we can play in a professional clean way or in a brutal blood thursty way.

[IronChitlin]

Yes but we are talking about his character, not how effieciant he is, we all know that 47 can be the rutheless killer in the world, but what makes him different from all the other killers out there? that is the question.

[axel]

"what makes him different from all the other killers out there? that is the question."

47 is different of the others killers because he is a clone.a genetically modified human being,created for a sole purpose:to kill.

he is a weapon,only a weapon...as a katana created by Masamune he is just perfect.he has perfect genes,do not have "normal" feelings like others human beings,and that's all.

in some way we could consider he is a kind of "human machine",as he does not think with concepts like "good" or "evil".he acts,that's all,he does what he has been created for,simply.

other killers can have a family,love women,money,weapons,but I don't think 47 is like them: money and weapons should only be a mean of living for him,not a passion.and about death...why should he love death ? is he a Gothic ? I don't really think...death may certainly be a finality for him,what ends a life,nothing more.

in brief,"normal" killers can be exactly as your neighbour (and it's sometime the case),but 47 is only a kind of "human machine":he does not feel anything.but,who knows,perhaps he can learn to feel...:) (see his reaction concerning the prostitues' kiss in Hong-Kong)

as 'Robert Rath' said: "Puting romance in the game would definetly blow 47´s ice cold assassin character that we all like. I say we keep his private life for himself"

I agree with the Sylvester Stallone fan:D ;) ;)

Axel

[Alexlovesguns]

Originally posted by axel


as 'Robert Rath' said: "Puting romance in the game would definetly blow 47´s ice cold assassin character that we all like. I say we keep his private life for himself"

I agree with the Sylvester Stallone fan:D ;) ;)

Axel
Hey! I said that:p .
And 47 is a failure in a certain way, he doesnt seem to perform like his "creaters" wanted him to, he tries to escape from his past of hired assassin and live in peace at Gontranno.
But he is better professional than all the other clones and we dont have any reason for that.

[axel]

"Hey! I said that .
And 47 is a failure in a certain way, he doesnt seem to perform like his "creaters" wanted him to, he tries to escape from his past of hired assassin and live in peace at Gontranno.
But he is better professional than all the other clones and we dont have any reason for that."

that's correct...he simply betrayed his creators,maybe in order to see what the world looks like,as it's obvious he's destiny would have to be a man kept in a secured chamber,only going out to set a contract,and then returning to the underground facility...

he tryed to live in peace at Gontranno,and I was happy that at the end of H2 we see that he leaves the crux the father Vittorio gave him,the idea of a christian hitman reallu sucks,I think...

and besides,that shows that even if everyone have to select a "way" during his life,47 has been over that kind of thing by choosing HIS way,not a way preached by a religion.I love this idea.

Axel