Those dear objects that disappeard in H 2...

[axel]

I've recently bought Hitman 1,and I saw a thing I REALLY loved:

the case in wich you place the sniper rifle Blazer R93...unfortunately,you can use it only in one level,you're first contract in Hong-Kong.

I hope that in H 3 we could find that kind of objects...in makes the game more realistic,'cause a hired assassion won't walk in the streets caring under his arm a rifle used for a silent and discrete (I 'm not sure if it's the right word) assassination...:)

"Hello,Officer...what I'm caring ? no,no,It's not a rifle,I'm just a fisherman,you know":D

Axel

[axel]

and,by the way, (I've forgotten this) why we could not buy (I prefer to see 47 buy is weapons to the Agency rather than to have a magnificent collection-his a professionnal,not an armorer or a weapon-fan;) ) the famous case specially designed for the MP5 wich allows to fire with it as it is inside ? (price: 4500 French Francs-do not ask me in Euros or Pounds:D )

Axel

[carmageddonstein]

You could use that sniper case in every level, dude. Plus, there is a seperate thread for that one, because you are not the only one who misses it. It's coming back, so don't worry.

Also, money handling is going to be an issue. You're doing your own contracts, so everything is for money, right? Well, what are you going to use this money for? I haven't any idea. However, why should this professional not be a weapons fan? Personally, I think the weapons shed was genius, if not useless. It wasn't good for much of anything except for the last level. At which point, it was VERY useful to somebody who could get their without arousing attention... or to somebody who blundered and aroused attention anyway. It was nice to see this thing that had become so very commonplace (I mean, you see it between almost every level), suddenly it was a completely new situation. Standing in it with a dead body felt very different than without the body. lol. I think it also helped give it more of a realism.

However, I don't know how that could possibly play into H3 efficiently, and despite the fact that I will miss shooting those birds, it's probably for the best. But I did think it kinda stupid that you had to buy the hardballers every mission in H1. What, did you lose it since last time?

[C_Villain]

I think this is the third post on missing items from Hitman that talks about the suitcase. Weve pretty much confirmed the suitcase is back in the game for one of the sniper rifles so far. Also IMO I thought the tool shed was a great idea. Although in H2SA you were only able to use it a few times before missions I still felt it was agreat idea espcially usefull in the last mission. It doesnt really make sense to have to purchase the same weapons over and over before each mission. It may make sense to purchase more ammo or weapons you werent able to pickup or that arent available in the missions. I dont really think it will be inlcuded in HC though considering from what ive read (although may not be true for the whole game) agent 47 will be staying ina hotel room. Unless he has a walk-in closet! :D

[carmageddonstein]

A walk-in closet might be nice, for those special occasions when you just have to have the perfect black suit and red tie to sport to that fancy formal. And oh so stylish, too. Get different colors for your guns and everything. Let's turn 47 into a homo. lol. Walk-in closet might be interesting. Walk-in freezer would probably be more useful. And satisfying.

[C_Villain]

Originally posted by carmageddonstein
A walk-in closet might be nice, for those special occasions when you just have to have the perfect black suit and red tie to sport to that fancy formal. And oh so stylish, too. Get different colors for your guns and everything. Let's turn 47 into a homo. lol. Walk-in closet might be interesting. Walk-in freezer would probably be more useful. And satisfying.

I didnt mean for changing his clothes I meant for storing weapons. :rolleyes:

[carmageddonstein]

Why not do both? Don't tell me you never wanted to try on the Lee Hong guard clothing after hours........... Those Red Dragon get-ups were just oh so silky fresh!

[nusie]

Axel there is an Edit button beside your post so that you can edit your post incase you forget something.

Axel il y a un bouton d'édition près de votre poteau de sorte que vous puissiez éditer votre poteau vous emballiez oubliiez quelque chose.

Canadian baby :D

[axel]

Originally posted by carmageddonstein
You could use that sniper case in every level, dude. Plus, there is a seperate thread for that one, because you are not the only one who misses it. It's coming back, so don't worry.

But I did think it kinda stupid that you had to buy the hardballers every mission in H1. What, did you lose it since last time?

It's back ? YESSSSSS !!!:)

but you can use it in every level ? my game might have a bug...it doesn't appears at the screen when you buy some weapons...

having to buy the same weapon in every mission is quite realistic,I think: what does a hired assasin do of his gun when he has finished a contract ?

a/
throw it in the water as he cross a bridge

b/
let it on the crime scene

c/
keep it,with the risk of being spotted by the police as they're arresting every civilian near the area dressed in a black suit,because he LOVES this gun ? (well,ok,I admit,that's a typically "Axelian" behaviour :D)

d/
Obi-Wan Kenobi

;)


Nusie,I know that but in fact I had not noticed where the icon was...thank you "quand même":) ;)

(by the way,"poteau" is not the exact translation of "post":D )

Axel

[Freddo]

I agree with that. Rebuying weapons makes sense. That's what I used to do in H1 :) Drop the weapons before leaving.

And it was indeed possible to use the briefcase on every level. :)

[Smooth Operator =WoH=]

Originally posted by nusie
Axel there is an Edit button beside your post so that you can edit your post incase you forget something.

Axel il y a un bouton d'édition près de votre poteau de sorte que vous puissiez éditer votre poteau vous emballiez oubliiez quelque chose.

Canadian baby :D

LOLLLLLLLLL, I don't know what english to french translator you used but it ain't worth ****!!!
:p :p
Lol, at least you tried :p :p :p

[nusie]

I dont use any translator except myself. I'm only in grade 9. 4 years of french emersion, 8 years of French Class in public skules. I used my self. Sheesh.

[carmageddonstein]

what did nusie actually say?

also, if you are talking about H1, simply buy the sniper rifle. It automatically comes with the rifle. Why would the police arrest every civilian wearing a black suit? That seems kinda unrealistic. Besides, if I wanted realism, I wouldn't be playing a game. lol. Regardless, it would NOT make any sense for him to leave the weapon there, unless he didn't bring the weapon with him in the first place. Frame a guard for doing it, or something. Dropping it over the side of the bridge would be risky. People driving by in cars going, hey, don't you think that fishing pole looks an awful lot like a sniper rifle? Besides, he'd want the guns for... sentamental worth. He'd be like.... oohhhh....that was a good hit. lol

[C_Villain]

Well it wouldnt be a bad idea to have the option to purchase guns you may have dropped, but also had the option to keep whatever you had on you from the last mission. Although it doesnt sound like youll be working for the agency in this game so you would have to purchase the weapons off the streets or black market I would think.

[axel]

" Why would the police arrest every civilian wearing a black suit? That seems kinda unrealistic."

rent Jean-Pierre Melville "The Samurai" (that have inspired a lot Jhon Woo's "The Killer"),and you 'll understand why the police arrest every person thats looks like the suspect's description ("I saw a man wearing a black suit",tell the whiteness,"ok,arrest all civilians wearing a black suit",says the police Lieutenant;) )

"Besides, if I wanted realism, I wouldn't be playing a game.lol."

hey,that's the main argument you can see in the advertisings:"this game is the most realistic you've ever seen" :p


"Regardless, it would NOT make any sense for him to leave the weapon there"

well,err...have you seen "Crying Freeman" ? ok,he makes his weapons explode,but that's COOL to see a man dressed in black suit lefting unselfconsciously his gun on the crime scene:)

and,imagin that he has to quit the palace in which he has killed his target by walking quietly in a the streets full of police officers:they could decide to arrest him because they found curious to see a man caring a M60 whistling and looking the sky...

definitively,you HAVE TO watch "The Samurai" lol

" Dropping it over the side of the bridge would be risky. People driving by in cars going, hey, don't you think that fishing pole looks an awful lot like a sniper rifle? "

hey,you're not supposed to throw a sniper rifle in the water as 30 persons are driving besides of you lol

" He'd be like.... oohhhh....that was a good hit. lol"

yes,exactly : "ah,that good old shotgun...I killed thousands of innocent civilians in Malaisia with it...ah,my good friend...that was good old time...(sigh)" LOL


Nusie,I find it's a good translation you made,that was comprehensive,the rest don't really matter;)
(by the way,what does "sheesh" means ?)

C_Villain,it's REALLY hard to find weapons in black market when you do not have contacts...an assassin is not really a mafioso,so I think that IO should find something else,that's would not be logic...

Axel

[The Professional]

Well it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the option to purchase guns you may have dropped, but also had the option to keep whatever you had on you from the last mission. Although it doesn't sound like you'll be working for the agency in this game so you would have to purchase the weapons off the streets or black market I would think.

You can often pick up throwaways from people who advertise in the classified section of the newspaper. Just be sure that any weapon you use on a job cannot be traced back to you by the
person you purchase it from. Gun shows offer a wide variety of tools and weapons useful in this line of work. Usually no registration is required. At most, they may ask to see your driver's license. And with so many dealers present vying for your business, prices may be competitive. Flea Markets, private gun collectors, veterans who hoard and stash a variety of interesting toys, and bargain hunter magazines are other possible sources.

having to buy the same weapon in every mission is quite realistic,I think: what does a hired assassin do of his gun when he has finished a contract?

a/
throw it in the water as he cross a bridge

b/
let it on the crime scene


You would do neither of these. If you would through it in the water as you cross a bridge ... it would be a single, cleaned. piece.

Parts of the weapon would be discarded at irregular intervals, aiming for water filled and overgrown drainage ditches. Away from the location where the contract was executed.

Should not leave anything at the crime scene...


47 having to keep purchasing weapons is indeed more realistic unless he is an amateur...any weapon used to commit a crime is disposable. If you consider the value of a gun to be higher than that of your personal freedom, you'd better leave that gun at home.

[Cutter-John]

Originally posted by axel
rent Jean-Pierre Melville "The Samurai" (that have inspired a lot Jhon Woo's "The Killer"),and you 'll understand why the police arrest every person thats looks like the suspect's description

Whoa... I never would have guessed anyone to recognise that movie. Let's hope 47 doesn't end up the same way as the main character though...

To add my two bits: I like the idea of being able to keep weapons after a hit. It would be pretty cool to play any mission with any gun just for fun (I usually play through some levels in SA, mostly Invitation to a Party, just to blast everyone in sight; I don't ever save these games). Though for contrast it could be cool to have the option of scattering the pieces of a weapon, make the game more open-ended. This could allow you to make a better escape, overall cleaner hit; this could eventranslate into your ending score.

If he bases all of his missions from this paris hotel I could fully understand an equivolent to the tool shed. Especially if it's in a shady part of town (4-stars don't usually accept bleeding individuals...), the manager probably won't ask too many questions, or even necessarily check the room. He could keep weapons in a closet, or under the floor boards.

[axel]

The Professionnal:

"You would do neither of these. If you would through it in the water as you cross a bridge ... it would be a single, cleaned. piece. "

I know how to avoid being considered as a suspect for a crime...I sufficiently studied assassin's behaviour to understand what to do in that kind of case,thanks...
and besides,it would be better if you would avoid to explain how to do a perfect assassination in your next post,some of the members of this forum may be young,it is not necessary to tell or show them that kind of techniques...

"knowledge is the true power,it must be kept secret",that's the kind of sentences that rule my life...


Cutter-John:

"Whoa... I never would have guessed anyone to recognise that movie. Let's hope 47 doesn't end up the same way as the main character though..."

err...what would you expect 47 to do after his last contract of his career ? raising horses in the Nevada ? become member of a pacifist ONG ?:p :D ;)

I think that the end of "The Samouraï" is really great...a kind of tragic suicide from a lone and hopeless man...magnificient,really.

perhaps that 47's life will end tragically ? I think that should be cool...legends never dies;)

Axel

[Howan Koth]

Hey. Me thinks that buying weapons would be annoying. Besides, who wants total realism in a game? The tool shed was great, I didn't believe in killing the aminals, but still, what gets the adrenaline pumping more than walking in a tool shed and seeing all that heat. A walk-in closet would be cool, for keeping the Moscov joggers clothing, especially. But oh well, what do you care...:(

[nightvision toad]

It would be pretty cool to store the clothing you finished the last level in. In SA the clothes guards wore were the same in different levels. The only thing that might alert people is when they see the
'Hi, I'm benny' badge and realise no Benny's work for that particular branch of the maffia

[Howan Koth]

First off, you spelt "mafia" wrong but I won't hold that against anyone. It would be pretty funny to go to Italy with a name badge saying "Susaki Natsume" or something.:cool:

[TaN00Ki]

Originally posted by axel
the famous case specially designed for the MP5 wich allows to fire with it as it is inside ? (price: 4500 French Francs-do not ask me in Euros or Pounds:D )

Axel


It's 2004 buddy, still dunno how to use € ??

lame...



what u talking about is equal 675 € BTW

if that even exist...

[Emultra]

I think the idea of a suit shed, like the weapon shed but with different clothing, is a good idea. A bartender's suit for this, a hotshot's suit for that.

[axel]

"It's 2004 buddy, still dunno how to use € ?? "


I've never been really gifted concerning maths...


"what u talking about is equal 675 € BTW

if that even exist..."

I've seen and touched one once,"buddy"...

Axel

[Capone]

i wish you could bring your baller suitcase on missions, even though it would be easier to just holster them in your suit, it'd still be fun for a few minutes

[Emultra]

Couldn't you just keep the weapons you don't drop and re-buy those you do?
Drop weapon - safer, but you can't keep it.
Don't drop, you'll have to get away with it which could prove dangerous, but you get to keep it. Then if you drop it in another mission...
Or they could just do the Silent Assassin style where you always have the weapons you hold on to at the end of a mission and then they stay in the shed no matter how you use them or if you drop them.

[Mazelaum]

Guys, I was wondering about something...

A REAL assassin ALWAYS buys his weapons in the black market OR he pays someone trustable (there aren't many on this bussiness) to make the weapon. You can ask The Jackal.

Other thing: yes. Buy a new weapon every time. Why? Exactly because of the tracing problem. No assassin wants the cops after him.;) Using the same weapon is a caracteristic for serial killers, who don't exactly mind about being traced (because most of them WANT to be known).

It's more professional to buy new weapons everytime.
After reading some of The Jackal's books, I noticed that he always buys new ones (or make'em), test and make the hit. That is the same thing the "pistoleiros" from Brazil do, but, generally, the client grants the killer the weapon for murder.

And don't worry about fingerprints... 47 uses gloves (hum... but he isn't using any while in disguise...hum...must be a fingertip [or fingerprint] plastic or rubber cover...*wondering*).

[nightvision toad]

yes.......