babifrence
01-17-2004, 07:06 PM
Hiya Peeps,
I saw the thread on Kain reaving souls which prompted me to write this one as I had an epiphany whilst thinking about the whole game in a mere moment.
I just wanted to know why didnt Kain absorb her soul when he clealy had the chance to and nobody was around? Does this get answered in Defiance? Perhaps he thought the Elder God deserved a scrap of a soul for once....:D
PEACE OUT !!!
Dogfight
01-18-2004, 12:33 AM
At the time, Kain had already gotten all the dark gifts he had lost back, thus there was no reason for him to absorb Umah's soul. Besides this Kain had a thing for Umah and was in love with her.
Umah's death has some controversy, I'll explain further below.
Many of those who started Blood Omen 2 and gave it up not liking it, would be hugely surprised at the shocking revelations that happen in the last few chapters of the game. Kain and Umah begin to form a romantic relationship, although not intimate in nature it is there, Kain is wary of Umah even though she is the only being that he trusts, he is being cautious after discovering that his actions in Blood Omen 1 may have been part of a Hylden trap. The revelations really hit Kain hard, for they reveal that by him choosing to damn the Pillars, he was in part the instrument of the beginning of the war showcased in the introduction of Blood Omen 2, between the Vampires and the Sarafan. Having the Nexus Stone, the one item that can nullify the attacks of the Soul Reaver, Kain prepares to take down the Sarafan Lord once and for all. Umah then steals the stone, believing that Kain would kill her and all the Vampires if he kills the Sarafan Lord, and that he would just be another dictator. Umah gets injured along the way of her plan to kill the Sarafan Lord by many Sarafan and asks Kain for blood. Kain convinces her to say that she sees him ruling Nosgoth, then when she does, Kain slashes her throat and proclaims his true feelings for her. "You should never have betrayed me. You could have been my queen. Now you have left me alone." Kain leaves Umah's body behind, not wanting to broach the subject again. Traumatized by the entire experience, Kain heads to the Hylden City, Janos Audron and Vorador eventually join him. Vorador finds out what happened to Umah and calls Kain a monster, Kain argues that Vorador in his place would have done the same, and that he doesn't care if Umah was acting on her own or following Vorador's order. The Sarafan Lord unmasked as the Hylden Lord shows up and injures Vorador and Janos with blasts from the Soul Reaver, Kain goes off the face the Hylden Lord alone. Kain confronts the Hylden Lord with another twist. <Kain> "Silence, demon! Your need to corrupt is only too apparent but every
traitor that you have turned to your will from my side, even Umah, your latest spy, is dead.<Sarafan Lord> Umah? I have no spy called Umah.<Kain>You lie!" In the ending of the game Kain has a monologue in which it is hinted that he in part regrets Umah's death, but sees it as a necessity because of her betrayal. (Umah. What was it she said to me that fateful moment when she took from me the Nexus Stone?How would my rule differ from that of the Sarafan Lord's? If you had lived, Umah, you would have learned the difference. You should have trusted me.)
Even after Defiance, it is still unknown whether the Sarafan Lord was speaking the truth or not. The questions linger. Was Umah a spy of the Sarafan Lord? Was there even a spy to begin with? What was the real reason for Umah stealing the Nexus Stone? We might never know.
Umah Bloodomen
01-18-2004, 11:26 AM
This issue has been touched on in a few older threads that you may find to be of some interest. :)
One (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2060&highlight=Umah)
Two (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4985&highlight=Did+Kain+love+umah)
Three (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12719&highlight=Did+Kain+love+umah)
Please keep in mind that any theory regarding Vorador is currently undergoing some much needed reconstruction. (Due to the Defiance plotline). I'd advise you to take that aspect of those threads with a grain of salt. :)
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