PC Version Discussion Thread (All Countries)

[Vulture51]

Does anyone know the release date of the PC version? THNX

[OugaBooga]

they haven't made an official date YET,also it seems that north america isn't getting 1 YET,which i find HIGHLY ODD:(

[fneh]

The PC version is only coming out in Europe. There's a thread with a new interview link. It says on the interview.

Most places think Europe will get it on Nov 28th but it will probably be sometime between then and christmas IMO.

[Reaper007]

well one thing is for sure, there will be a PC version, not just for europe. if there is no PC version eidos and CD would be cutting a large amount of profit so i doubt they'll say no PC version. and i dont think a PC version will be ready by nov 28, it takes months to convert ps2 and/or x-box code, then there is beta testing, etc. expect it in at least 6 months.

my 2 cents anyways.

Reaper007

[fneh]

Originally posted by Reaper007
well one thing is for sure, there will be a PC version, not just for europe. if there is no PC version eidos and CD would be cutting a large amount of profit so i doubt they'll say no PC version. and i dont think a PC version will be ready by nov 28, it takes months to convert ps2 and/or x-box code, then there is beta testing, etc. expect it in at least 6 months.

my 2 cents anyways.

Reaper007


OK. Then don't believe me. HERE!
Go here and read the full interview for yourself (http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=18067)

HomeLAN - Will a PC version be released at some point?

Riley Cooper - We do have a PC sku but at this time it’s only planned for Europe

[blincoln]

They wouldn't drop a US PC release if they thought they were going to make money on it, Reaper007. They must not have sold very many copies of the PC versions of SR2 and BO2 here, probably because too many people pirated it instead of buying it.

[Azazel]

Before SR2 was released, there were rumours that the PC version was only going to be in Europe.

[blincoln]

Yeah, but even then they were planning on selling it here as a pack-in with some piece of hardware or another.

[Stephenls]

No one has said that LoK: Defiance for PC is only going to be released in Europe. The interview says that currently, there are only plans to release it in Europe.

Wait.

[Omega]

Originally posted by fneh
The PC version is only coming out in Europe. There's a thread with a new interview link. It says on the interview.

Most places think Europe will get it on Nov 28th but it will probably be sometime between then and christmas IMO.

In my mini-Interview with Chris (http://www.legacyofkain.net/articles.php?article=chrisbruno), he said that they actually have the PC stuff already (21st October) and are waiting for it to be burned IIRC.

[Reaper007]

sorry if u misunderstood what i wrote, when i wrote it i had to get back to work so my thoughts were running faster then i could type. now that i'm home i have re-read it and i confused myself as well.

when i wrote 6 months i was thinking of when defiance was officially announced, what 4-5 months ago? so sorry for any misunderstanding. but to me nov 28 just seems a little to hopeful.

Reaper007

[fneh]

Originally posted by Stephenls
No one has said that LoK: Defiance for PC is only going to be released in Europe. The interview says that currently, there are only plans to release it in Europe.

Wait.


do the words "currently there are n oplans for a gamecube version of defiance" ring any bells?

[Reaper007]

Originally posted by fneh
do the words "currently there are n oplans for a gamecube version of defiance" ring any bells? well that doesnt surprise me becuase according to gamespot.com eidos officially dropped the gamecube. sorry couldnt find the article.

Reaper007

[fneh]

they did. that's my point...

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by fneh
they did. that's my point...

Eidos dropped GameCube. They didn't drop the PC.

I'm not saying "Wait, because it'll come eventually." I'm saying "Wait, because we don't know yet."

[fneh]

OK look:

"there are currently only plans to release defiance for PC in europe"

"there are currently no plans to release defiance for gamecube"

spot the difference? we KNOW there's no GC version. They said tyhe exact same thing "there are currently no plans" that means unless defiance sells a HELL of a lot more then expected for the consoles then there's no chance of a USA PC version. In the UK PC sales compared to console sales must be closer. I guess in america console sales are much higher then PC sales (the console to PC sales ratio I mean)

so unless eidos get hate mail and a HUGE demand then it's not gonna happen. Is that such a hard concept the grasp?

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by fneh
so unless eidos get hate mail and a HUGE demand then it's not gonna happen. Is that such a hard concept the grasp?

You yourself admit that it's a possibility, then.

That's all I'm saying.

[fneh]

Originally posted by Stephenls
You yourself admit that it's a possibility, then.

That's all I'm saying.

I'm saying that there's a 99% chance it won't happen but should the game turn out to be the biggest game ever (let's face it that's not going to happen LOK never got receved as well as it deserves) then they'd PC it.

there's like a 1% chance of a USA version for PC...that's the same odds as a condom not working when it's not broken.

If you're a PC owner you'll have to import from the UK. shipping won't be that bad for a game anyway. Course the game will be the UK price, which is a lot higher then the USA price but that's what us brits have to deal with all the time. Just import the UK version and have it within a month of the release or wait 6 months for a POSSIBLE PC version....or just buy the PS2/xbox version. They'll be better anyway.

[OugaBooga]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,there's a USA version coming,DON'T gimmie that 99% lies.If there's a europe release then there's a USA release & THIS time it WILL be superior to console!:D.PERIOD ! ! !

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
BAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,there's a USA version coming,DON'T gimmie that 99% lies.If there's a europe release then there's a USA release & THIS time it WILL be superior to console!:D.PERIOD ! ! !

No. The XBox version, I believe, is slated to once again have slightly more complex textures and special effects in certain areas.

[OugaBooga]

GGGGGGGGggggggggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ;)

[Erving JeansBgone]

It just sounds a bit stupid to me, all the other Lok games came out on PC so it would just be dumb not to make a Defiance PC version in the USA ,i mean just think about it,all those who playd all of the Lok games on a comp (me for exaple) and then the latest one of the series just don`t show up??? i wont have that kind oh dung ! and anywayz all the PC versions of the hole series had better grafics and S*$# .
in conclusion PC GOOD! Console BAD!

[blincoln]

I actually prefer consoles for this type of game. The only thing that's better about the PC is that you can run at higher res, take nicer screenshots, and hack the savegames more easily.

If more US PC gamers had bought SR2 and BO2, then Defiance would be coming out in the US for the PC. It's as simple as that. Eidos is a business, they have no reason to release a product in a particular market if they think it's not going to make money.

[Bloody-Mess]

Originally posted by Erving JeansBgone
It just sounds a bit stupid to me, all the other Lok games came out on PC so it would just be dumb not to make a Defiance PC version in the USA ,i mean just think about it,all those who playd all of the Lok games on a comp (me for exaple) and then the latest one of the series just don`t show up??? i wont have that kind oh dung ! and anywayz all the PC versions of the hole series had better grafics and S*$# .
in conclusion PC GOOD! Console BAD!

PC is better! i have bo2 & sr2 on pc & on console so for me pc
looks better.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Stephenls
No. The XBox version, I believe, is slated to once again have slightly more complex textures and special effects in certain areas.

it would bother me if a severely gimped computer (X-box) would have more complex textures and special effects than a newer one. an x-box is just a PC that's a couple years old. a PC version should have more complex textures or special effects if anything, but if it doesn't that'd be fine. it's just completely backwards if they DOWNGRADE the graphics for PC.

[Omega]

Yeah, but what you've also got to bear in mind is the fact that X-Box has it's games on DVD, allowing more information to be stored, whereas PC games are generally stored on CD, severely limiting the amount of extra visual information that can be added.

This PC Vs. Console war is bothering me.. I mean, I'm going to get Defiance for the PS2 and the PC version at least...

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Omega
Yeah, but what you've also got to bear in mind is the fact that X-Box has it's games on DVD, allowing more information to be stored, whereas PC games are generally stored on CD, severely limiting the amount of extra visual information that can be added.

This PC Vs. Console war is bothering me.. I mean, I'm going to get Defiance for the PS2 and the PC version at least...

the data limit thing is a lil iffy. while true Xbox and PS2 use DVD, the games that are also on PC usually make it in 1-2 CDs. SR2, BO2, are obvious examples. Other big titles like GTA3/GTA:VC make it in 2 cds, and Halo even made it onto ONE cd.

special effects aren't really something that take up a lot of space either. maybe not enough room for extra high textures, but things like special effects shouldn't be cut.

i believe that they can also compress things like textures down quite a bit when they are PC versions because the game actually installs itself on the hard drive whereas the consoles have to load on the fly. not 100% sure.

i'm really torn here between what to do. if the game is already gold as has been said, then the lack of info is starting to scare me. has it been said that the PC version for Europe is going to be out at the same time as the console versions? i really don't want to get this for PS2 :(.

[Omega]

The European PC version will be released 10 days (if I recall correctly) after the console versions have.

I'd much prefer it on the PS2, much easier controls as I don't have a pad for the PC.

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Tesla
it would bother me if a severely gimped computer (X-box) would have more complex textures and special effects than a newer one. an x-box is just a PC that's a couple years old. a PC version should have more complex textures or special effects if anything, but if it doesn't that'd be fine. it's just completely backwards if they DOWNGRADE the graphics for PC.

Oh, for Discordia's sake...

I explained this already. Look here (http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25327&perpage=25&pagenumber=4).

[blincoln]

Most people's PCs can't support the kind of graphics that the XBox can. Look at how many people still ask about things like running BO2 with a Voodoo or a TNT2. It's not worthwhile to develop a game to high-end specs unless that's the market you're going for (like Doom 3 is). Games targeted to the mass market have to be made to run well on average and below-average hardware, not the high-end.

[OugaBooga]

OK,i'll just SAY this ONCE.................cd's are DIRT CHEAP to produce>>>like 2cents a disk or somtin crazy like that........dvd's are prally NOT much more............consoles DON'T use compressed anything cause as 1 dude mention it need to use the info on the fly,but the xbox can unload it's stuff to the hard drive,but i don't know if it takes advantage of this.SOOOOOOOOOOOOO,I DON'T see how it's MORE expensive for CD/Eidos to make an extra cd so it holds what the console holds ESPECIALLY since the info is COMPRESSED ONTO a CD.I would BET that the price of 2 or 3 cd's is prally the same as 1 dvd.
Thats all,i have spoken my last on this....................peace

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
OK,i'll just SAY this ONCE.................cd's are DIRT CHEAP to produce>>>like 2cents a disk or somtin crazy like that........dvd's are prally NOT much more............consoles DON'T use compressed anything cause as 1 dude mention it need to use the info on the fly,but the xbox can unload it's stuff to the hard drive,but i don't know if it takes advantage of this.SOOOOOOOOOOOOO,I DON'T see how it's MORE expensive for CD/Eidos to make an extra cd so it holds what the console holds ESPECIALLY since the info is COMPRESSED ONTO a CD.I would BET that the price of 2 or 3 cd's is prally the same as 1 dvd.
Thats all,i have spoken my last on this....................peace

Last I heard, CDs are like a buck a disc. One dollar lost on all transactions translates to potentially tens of thousands of dollars in lost sales. That's a significant chunk of the profit margin, especially for something that's essentially a bonus disc.

[OugaBooga]

NO>>>DVD-r+r are now a 1$ or even less<<this is the consumer price.
I get BRANDED cd's for 20cents & thats including that 'piracy' tax that was added a few yrs ago.UnBranded CD's i've seen for as low as 15cents.Music industry pays LITERALLY 3-7cents a CD.I wouldn't imagine that the CD's for software would be much more.Anyhow,i don't wanna argue over this,i KNOW i'am right.:D

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
NO>>>DVD-r+r are now a 1$ or even less<<this is the consumer price.
I get BRANDED cd's for 20cents & thats including that 'piracy' tax that was added a few yrs ago.UnBranded CD's i've seen for as low as 15cents.Music industry pays LITERALLY 3-7cents a CD.I wouldn't imagine that the CD's for software would be much more.Anyhow,i don't wanna argue over this,i KNOW i'am right.:D

Well, I did say "last I heard."

It might simply be a matter of the bonus material not affecting the sales in any significant way. If the bonus material doesn't generate more sales, there's no reason to devote any manufacturing money to it, even if it's only one cent per disc. Naked capitalism at its finest.

[Tesla]

I'll try to make this my last post on this :)

Originally posted by blincoln
Most people's PCs can't support the kind of graphics that the XBox can. Look at how many people still ask about things like running BO2 with a Voodoo or a TNT2. It's not worthwhile to develop a game to high-end specs unless that's the market you're going for (like Doom 3 is). Games targeted to the mass market have to be made to run well on average and below-average hardware, not the high-end.

Both SR2 and BO2 have as minimum requirements a 16MB 3D video card. That has to be considered Mass-market by today's standards.

One of the things that's almost always available for computer games is that ability to tweak the graphics settings. For gamers out there with older hardware, they can turn off all the fancy stuff, lower the resolution, disable things like AA & AF, and play the game reasonably well. If someone doesn't have a card that doesn't have the capability to do special effect "Z" that the X-box does, then it's simply not done. Like running Half-Life 2 on a non-DX9 video card.

Yes, this game wouldn't target any more of a mass audience then SR2 could. I'd imagine that the updating to the engine they did has upped the requirements a little.

Anyway, hopefully enough people will buy the console versions that they decide to make it a USA PC release :D

[Erving JeansBgone]

I`l kick their butt`s if they don`t! Leaving that whole extra cost for makin PC cd`s thingy, the people who own a PC simply wont got to the trouble of buying a console and i doubt they`l be happy about importing a PC version from the UK,so as another guy sayd they`l probably gona get a bunch of hate-mail from us PC dudes:mad:

[The Hylden]

SR2 runs fine on my video card, Invidia Gforce 4 from, 128 mb, and 50 bucks for that. This is a good card, but SR2 ran on my Pro Savage card that came with the PC, which wasn't anywhere close to that. And, it had no problems, you just had to run it at a lower resolution. There is no need to exclude the mass market of PC owners for that excuse. I am sure the people behind Doom III aren't thinking about all the poor people with low-end cards when they made there game (which requires most to by the latest card just to play it to it's fullest). If that is the lame excuse that the game does not get produced on PC, ugh.

[Sarxis]

This whole 'PC only in Europe' theory is stupid. Let's just all come to our senses. :mad:

[fneh]

Originally posted by Sarxis
This whole 'PC only in Europe' theory is stupid. Let's just all come to our senses. :mad:


so your senses are denial? it was officially stated.............y'know whatever. what's the point?


all you know is that the USA PC version is NOT CURRENTLY PLANNED. If they DO decide to even do it then you'll be waiting MONTHS to get it after release date unless you import the UK version.

end of story

[Xeratule]

it would bother me if a severely gimped computer (X-box) would have more complex textures and special effects than a newer one. an x-box is just a PC that's a couple years old. a PC version should have more complex textures or special effects if anything, but if it doesn't that'd be fine. it's just completely backwards if they DOWNGRADE the graphics for PC.

Soul Reaver 1 on the Dreamcast is MUCH better than the PC version(I have both). The character models are different(better) and has better special effects than the PC version. After all, the Dreamcast is basicly a Pentium 200mhz with 32mb of ram with a kyro video card (not exactly, but similar).

Just because the PC is more powerful, doesn't mean that it's going to get all the bells and wistles. Why? Probably for marketing reasons...you know...Microsoft... nuff said...

Note: I also recognize that Soul Reaver 1 for the PC is badly done port(they could have done better...the DC version is proof enough) IMO AND that the Dreamcast version was done a while after the PC and PSX versions; However, the PC version of SR2 and BO2 are very well done.

edit: Yes, I just bought a Sex Box...er XBox today because I do not want to wait any longer(Days?, Weeks?, Months?) for the PC release when I can just pick up the console version. I also wanted the system that will give me the most raw power for this game. Plus I want to get Starcraft:Ghost as well. :)

[fneh]

an xbox isn't a bad choice to buy. If I was buying a console simply for this game I'd buy it. This game looks so good it's probably worth buying a console for even for the one game. (reminds me of buying my gamecube ONLY for res evil remake and res evil 4.....oh and MGS twin snakes. so that's 3 games. I'm sure ther's a few xbox games wirth buying cheap)

[Xeratule]

I just saw a preview of Ninja Gaiden. I loved playing that game on my old NES and now it's an xbox exlusive. I hope that this game will live up to the original though :cool:

[fneh]

have you seen fable? That looks hellacool!

back on topic, I hope the UK PC version is on DVD. Maybe they're going to test it on DVD in the UK to see sales then mass produce it for america on DVD if the UK DVD is sucessful?
Afterall, in america there's going to be a LOT more copies needed and the profit margin isn't as big. In the UK we get ripped off all the time compared to americans (look a console prices for instance). In the UK not as many copies will be needed so it wouldn't be as much of a gamble. In the USA releasing on a new format could be fatal....just my 2 cents

[Atomic Skull]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
BAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,there's a USA version coming,DON'T gimmie that 99% lies.If there's a europe release then there's a USA release & THIS time it WILL be superior to console!:D.PERIOD ! ! !

You mean like Blood Omen PC was (not) superior to the console version.

[Atomic Skull]

Originally posted by Tesla
it would bother me if a severely gimped computer (X-box) would have more complex textures and special effects than a newer one. an x-box is just a PC that's a couple years old. a PC version should have more complex textures or special effects if anything, but if it doesn't that'd be fine. it's just completely backwards if they DOWNGRADE the graphics for PC.


No, it's not. An X-Box is a dedicated machine built from PC technology, however there are some fundimental differences that allow developers to squeeze more out of it than a PC built with equivilent technology.

First of all, the GPU and CPU both share a single chunk of memory, and they can share a single copy of a texture. This means that you don't have to load a texture, then load it from the CPU's RAM over an AGP buss to the GPU's RAM. You just load it into the shared RAM. And there is of course no AGP buss to slow things down, there is no need for one because the GPU and CPU are sharing the same memory.

There have been UMA PC's, but they don't actually share memory between the CPU and GPU like an X-Box does, you have to partition a chunk of RAM for the GPU, and the machine still "uploads" textures to it (also, UMA PC's with the exception of SGI's Visual PC are generally low budget crap) SGI did many of the things the X-Box does with UMA, but it also could only run a custom version of Windows NT/2000 with an SGI HAL. It could run neither DOS nor Win95/98 because they had thrown the industry standard out the window and built their own architecture from the ground up) This is why nobody else has done that. But on a game console it doesn't matter.

The X-Box's DirectX is a bastardized version that gives the developers more access to the low level hardware than the PC DirectX, this is only possible because the X-Box is a fixed hardware platform. And because it's a fixed hardware platform, you can do hacky programming tricks to get extra performance out of it and never have to worry about it being incompatible with some machines, they're all the same so it'll work on all of them.

[Atomic Skull]

Originally posted by Xeratule
Just because the PC is more powerful, doesn't mean that it's going to get all the bells and wistles. Why? Probably for marketing reasons...you know...Microsoft... nuff said...

No, because they want to make money, and in order to make money they make a game that a large number of people can play. And you don't do that by making a game that requires a 3Ghz Pentium4 Extreme Edition and a $400 video card.

What they do is develop PC games for the "middle of the road" system, then throw a few advanced features (pixel shader effects, etc.) onto it as a bone for owners of better machines.

It takes about 2-3 years before the features of the latest video cards get used to full effect, i.e. when they've become standard on the average PC.

On a console that's not a problem, you can squeeze as much out of the machine as you want and never worry about how many people will be able to play your game.

[Atomic Skull]

Originally posted by Xeratule
Soul Reaver 1 on the Dreamcast is MUCH better than the PC version(I have both). The character models are different(better) and has better special effects than the PC version. After all, the Dreamcast is basicly a Pentium 200mhz with 32mb of ram with a kyro video card (not exactly, but similar).

No, it's not similar except in the regard that both are using a GPU that does tile rendering and both are computers. Similar to how a dog is like a cat, but only in that they are both 4 legged mammals.

[akasleepy]

guys guys guys you are fighting over something that has already been decided.
Marketing for games are now aimed at consule systems not pcs, I hate this cuz I grew up with atari and coleco only to save my money so I could buy a kick a$$ computer system to play games on only to find out that they no longer really care about a single player game for them :(
the reason xbox will be a better design is simple everyone has the same setup , they don't have to waste time trying to make it so the guy with the 3 yr old graphics card can play it and so can the guy with the brand spanking new $500 card can also play and have them both happy.
if you own a pc that has hyperthreading with a radeon 9800 pro it won't make a bit of differnce since the game was written to run off of a Xbox that has a 64 mb graphics card and a 733mhz processor.
We can cry all we want but thats the simple facts, Microsoft loses money on the xbox system so that they can make money on the games, and trust me they make plenty off of it,so why would they really care about pc? Nothing but tech support headaches from us pc gamers, damn look at the posts on this thread we all are b*tching before it has even come out and when it does finally come out in the USA we will be on here again b*tching about some bug in the game :p

[Azira]

Hi

Can i import and play american xbox games on a german xbox ? Because if i cant, i think i dont really care, since its said (not officially though) that all version come out the 28th of november in the UK.

greets,
Azira

[Xeratule]

Originally posted by Atomic Skull
No, because they want to make money, and in order to make money they make a game that a large number of people can play. And you don't do that by making a game that requires a 3Ghz Pentium4 Extreme Edition and a $400 video card.

What they do is develop PC games for the "middle of the road" system, then throw a few advanced features (pixel shader effects, etc.) onto it as a bone for owners of better machines. [/B]

You just answered your own question. Developers can ADD all the bells and wistles to the game as an option, and they often do(Morrowind for example).

Look at GTA3:DP It is so much more improved over the PC version. They could have improved the PC version of GTA3 and then give the option for people with lower end PCs to turn off the option, but they didn't and Rockstar is MARKETING the Xbox version as being improved(graphics wise) over the other ports.


It takes about 2-3 years before the features of the latest video cards get used to full effect, i.e. when they've become standard on the average PC.

I can't argue with that, but this holds true for the consoles as well. You don't see the best out of the consoles until the end of it's life cycle.


On a console that's not a problem, you can squeeze as much out of the machine as you want and never worry about how many people will be able to play your game.

I been a PC gamer for the longest of time(and I still am), but I had to pick up an Xbox so that I can pick up Defiance on day 1 and I will probably pick up Starcraft: Ghost and Ninja Gaiden as well. That quote above shows the main stregth of owning a console over a gaming PC.


No, it's not similar except in the regard that both are using a GPU that does tile rendering and both are computers. Similar to how a dog is like a cat, but only in that they are both 4 legged mammals.

Why do you have to be so picky(you seem to want to argue about everything :) )? I know that they are not exactly the same, but they are similar. I would compare them to a wolf and a dog over a cat and a dog because the Kyro 2 and the Power VR 2 technologies are so similar. It shares more technology than just the tile engine and I could point them out if you want to.

Same thing with the Xbox GPU and the Geforce 3 and 4 for the PC. They ARE different, but they both share the same foundation of the same technology. One is more tailored for consoles and one is more tailored for PCs.

[blincoln]

In all fairness, the CPU inside the Dreamcast is pretty different from the AMD or Intel chip you'd find in a PC. IIRC, it speaks something like MIPS, which means it's closer to a PowerPC chip like in a Mac from that era.

Azira: not without chipping the XBox to play imports. I did that to my PS2 so I could play British and Japanese releases, and it was a bit of a hassle. Your TV would also need to support NTSC. It's probably best to just buy one of the domestic versions.

[fneh]

NTSC on a PAL TV is no problem. You simply need a scart cable (a proper one, not the crap you get with your console, an actual RGB cable)

PAL on NTSC is more of a problem so you americans would have more trouble importing....not that you'd ever really need to eH?

Did he say he wanted to chip his xbox? it's VERY easy to chip them I hear. like 2 wires to solder and it'll pla imports right away. Unfortunately it means xbox live is disabled. There are newer chips that can be turned off though so xbox live is still possible. not cheap though.

If you're in the UK I can give you a site that is very good for this kind of thing. I don't want to advertise them on the forums especially considering the nature.

Blinc.: do you have the PAL SR2? I'd like to know if it's any different. my PAL SR1 is a LOT faster and more responsive then SR2 was. I wondered if it was a crappy 50hz conversion......

[Azira]

Hi

Did he say he wanted to chip his xbox? it's VERY easy to chip them I hear. like 2 wires to solder and it'll pla imports right away. Unfortunately it means xbox live is disabled. There are newer chips that can be turned off though so xbox live is still possible. not cheap though.

I would pretty much like to play imported games, although im not quite aware of what chipping actually means, can you tell me something about it, and how it is done ?
I lie in germany, therefore i also want to import the USA version of Defiance, i know how to make the PS2 work with imported games, but i dont know how to do it with an x-box.
Can you tell me per private messages or per email since you dont want to talk about it here ? - thanks :D

Azira: not without chipping the XBox to play imports. I did that to my PS2 so I could play British and Japanese releases, and it was a bit of a hassle. Your TV would also need to support NTSC. It's probably best to just buy one of the domestic versions.

My TV wont have a problem with it, i can assure you of that ;)
Still, buying a domestic version is a bad idea, since it wil take quite some time for the game to be released in germany :(

Thanks & greets,
Azira

[Atomic Skull]

Originally posted by Xeratule
[B]You just answered your own question. Developers can ADD all the bells and wistles to the game as an option, and they often do(Morrowind for example).

But they could have done so much more with Morrowind. For example, they wanted to do more realistic shadows using pixel shaders but didn't because they couldn't justify the development time for a feature than only 20-30% of users would be able to use.


I been a PC gamer for the longest of time(and I still am), but I had to pick up an Xbox so that I can pick up Defiance on day 1 and I will probably pick up Starcraft: Ghost and Ninja Gaiden as well. That quote above shows the main stregth of owning a console over a gaming PC.

Get Panzer Dragoon Orta (it's cheap now, and it's a great game)

It's also a good example of how you can squeeze a lot more out of the same technology when you have a fixed platform to work with and low level hardware access.



Why do you have to be so picky(you seem to want to argue about everything :) )? I know that they are not exactly the same, but they are similar. I would compare them to a wolf and a dog over a cat and a dog because the Kyro 2 and the Power VR 2 technologies are so similar. It shares more technology than just the tile engine and I could point them out if you want to.

The GPU technology is similar, but the CPU (Hitachi HS4), and the architecture of the rest of the machine is actually quite different.

[Xeratule]

But they could have done so much more with Morrowind. For example, they wanted to do more realistic shadows using pixel shaders but didn't because they couldn't justify the development time for a feature than only 20-30% of users would be able to use.

As far as I know, the Xbox version and the PC version are identical.

Only 20-30% of gamers had a Direct X 8.0 compliant video card and they still added those special water effects(the same % that would have been able to use more realistic shadows). Why didn't they remove the water effects if only a minority would benifit from it?

IMO I think Morrowind was an honest game and tried to get the best out of both the PC and Xbox.

Soul Reaver 2 and Blood Omen 2 were also very well done on the PC AND I hope CD will continue this trend.

The GPU technology is similar, but the CPU (Hitachi HS4), and the architecture of the rest of the machine is actually quite different.

The GPU was what I was talking about in specific the whole time, not the CPU or the rest of the mashine....

The Dreamcast was awesome.... Soul Reaver 1, Soul Calibur, House of the Dead...*drools* It bogles my mind today how that console failed.

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Xeratule
Only 20-30% of gamers had a Direct X 8.0 compliant video card and they still added those special water effects(the same % that would have been able to use more realistic shadows). Why didn't they remove the water effects if only a minority would benifit from it?

Because they had the time and money to develop and implement only either the reflective water or the pixel shaders, but not both.

Soul Reaver 2 and Blood Omen 2 were also very well done on the PC AND I hope CD will continue this trend.

Blood Omen 2 on the PC has worse graphics than Blood Omen 2 on XBox.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Stephenls

Blood Omen 2 on the PC has worse graphics than Blood Omen 2 on XBox.

it is missing several special effects, but it can go to a much higher resolution like these screenshots at 1280x1024

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/demon.1.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/seer.jpg

i may have more somewhere but i don't wanna scour my Hard drive to find 'em. you get the idea ;)

i think i've made up my mind to get the UK PC version imported unless i hear that it's not coming out the 28th when the console versions do (IF those are even supposed to come out the 28th, there is a SEVERE lack of official information regarding release dates outside the USA)

[Umah Bloodomen]

Originally posted by Tesla
i may have more somewhere but i don't wanna scour my Hard drive to find 'em. you get the idea ;)


Tease. :o :p

[Tesla]

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/Janos.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/kainconfront.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/kainmovie.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/Moebius.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/vampboss.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/vampzap.jpg

Screenshots below here are from the END OF THE GAME and so are SPOILERS

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/eatimmolation.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/endbattle.1.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/janoslord.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/Kainzoom.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/lorduhoh.jpg

http://www.notcreative.net/stuff/upload/sarafanlord.jpg


I would take more but I don't have any real save game points besides ones at these locations :/. I should have made a new save game for each level and end level. Oh well.

[Anubis_Orr]

That's it? ;):D

If you save at every available checkpoint it works out to be about 120 saves. And BO2 only allows 40. (Like anything there are ways around that.)

[Stonegrinder]

just putting in my two cents, but to tell the truth, i never liked playing sr2 and bo2 on the ps2 or any other next gen console, call me a nut (especially the x-box buffs)but i LOVE my sidewinder more then a ps2 controller and the x-box controller. besides, graphics wise consoles may be superior when it comes to gf2's and such, but if you got a dx9 compatible card (radeon 9700 or 9800 pro or geforce fx) it should look really nice. :p

[Azira]

Hi

I guess its also quite relevant what kind of a TV one does have if playing with an x-box, if one should have a crappy TV, it would be better to play the PC version. At least thats what i guess......

Greets,
Azira

[OugaBooga]

At this LATE stage of the game the console SURELY don't have anything over the PC's.I would bank that the xbox will get some 'special' treatment in the next few yrs over the ps2 but i CAN'T imagine it havening anything over the PC.MOST REAL gamers that BUY games USUALLY have the neccesary equipment for ANYTHING the developer is willing to dish out & if not then IS WILLING to go OUT & BUY IT.I'd be FREAKISHLY SURPRISED if the consoles has ANY superioirity over the PC other then 'Xtra' content like pic's or in dev sceens/movies........etc.
Personally i don't think the specs will be much diff then what existed for SR2 except maybe the inclusion of DX9 capable cards.

[Azira]

Hi

In case you want to compare the graphical diferences between X-Box and PS2, then just go to

http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_1930/nl/gameDetail.htm

There youll find some images like f.e. Lok7_xobx and LOK4_ps2 you can compare, do you think theres a great differnce ?

greets,
Azira

[Darkregion]

I know the game will be on PC in the UK but will it come to the US?

[Stephenls]

We don't know yet. Other people have asked this question before, and we still have no answer.

[Glucolisis]

For the first time in my gaming life i`m really scared. I think that Eidos won`t sell the PC version in the US.

They could make it a exclusive game for Gamestop.com like Sr2, if the reason is poor sales, but I don``t know.

I really feel hopeless this time. I maybe not be able to play this game:(

[blincoln]

They don't have one planned at this time, so I wouldn't count on it. You're best off getting one of the console versions, or importing a copy of it from the UK if you really, really want to play it on a PC.

[Nelo]

Or you could wait a while and see if it comes out in japan, then import the japanese version for pc:confused:


Or you could wait 10 years untill eidso ports it to the gameboy advanced 12 and the playstaion portable 7.

Or you could go to a wallmart that is desplaying the game and stay there all day untill you beat it, if it is a long game try to find one that is open 24/7.

You could also buy it for Ps2 and steal someones Ps2, or find a friend with a Ps2, you could do this with X box as well.

It is also possable that you could hope that a future Lok game for the Pc has defiance on it as a bonos.

See there are many many way you could play defiance.;)

[Tesla]

"no currently planned" version for a USA PC release. which probably means it'll happen, just not right away. i'm going to go ahead and pre-order the UK PC version

[Glucolisis]

Originally posted by Nelo
Or you could wait a while and see if it comes out in japan, then import the japanese version for pc:confused:


Or you could wait 10 years untill eidso ports it to the gameboy advanced 12 and the playstaion portable 7.

Or you could go to a wallmart that is desplaying the game and stay there all day untill you beat it, if it is a long game try to find one that is open 24/7.

You could also buy it for Ps2 and steal someones Ps2, or find a friend with a Ps2, you could do this with X box as well.

It is also possable that you could hope that a future Lok game for the Pc has defiance on it as a bonos.

See there are many many way you could play defiance.;)

That was very funny!!!

I have all LOk games on PC why, because i`m a PC gamer. I`m so used to the keyboard that I can`t even grab a controler, they take all the fun out.

I won`t spend my money on a PS2 because:

1. It is TOO old.
2. In my country you could buy a car with the money for the PS2
3. Hate consoles.

I still have hope, sr2 was the hardest to find for PC because it was a gamestop, ebgames exclusive, but even before it was annouced like that I was thinking on importing it from Europe, the price: US$4,000. I wouldn`t pay that money even for all the games available for PS2.

So i`ll just wait. If it happened before, it could happen again.

[blincoln]

Originally posted by Tesla
"no currently planned" version for a USA PC release. which probably means it'll happen, just not right away.

To be honest, "not currently planned" is business-speak for "almost certainly not going to happen."

Maybe if the PC version sells some incredibly number, like 500,000 copies in Europe, it will be released over here, but I doubt it.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by blincoln
To be honest, "not currently planned" is business-speak for "almost certainly not going to happen."

Maybe if the PC version sells some incredibly number, like 500,000 copies in Europe, it will be released over here, but I doubt it.

Bummer :(

Just out of curiosity, are you importing the PC version too then? If so, from where?

[blincoln]

A friend of mine in the UK is picking me up a copy. I'll leave him anonymous in case he wants to remain that way.

If I were going to look for one myself, I'd probably check eBay, or smaller independent retailers, because companies like Amazon are under contract not to sell games outside their territory.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by blincoln
A friend of mine in the UK is picking me up a copy. I'll leave him anonymous in case he wants to remain that way.

If I were going to look for one myself, I'd probably check eBay, or smaller independent retailers, because companies like Amazon are under contract not to sell games outside their territory.

Yeah, I checked Amazon's UK cuz their price was cheap (23 pounds), but I did find a site with it for 30 pounds ($50). and then tack on shipping, which i'll probably do the express for like $18 IIRC. the shipping will be the same from any of the places and it's like $6 to go from the regular (7-15 days) to the express (half that). worth it to me, especially since that guarentees i'll get it before Finals start :(

www.gameplay.co.uk if anyone else is interested

[blincoln]

Cool! Please let me know if you get it okay so I can hand that address out on my site.

[Glucolisis]

So, you mean that I can order it and they would ship it to the US?

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Glucolisis
So, you mean that I can order it and they would ship it to the US?

Amazon's UK site will not (like I posted above). The Gameplay.co.uk site that I posted does. It also had the best price that I've seen so far on any of the UK sites I've seen posted. Most seem to carry the game for 35-40 pounds from the few that I've seen. It seems the PC version is also cheaper than the console ones.

If anyone knows a place with a better price, please post it!

[Omega]

Originally posted by blincoln
Cool! Please let me know if you get it okay so I can hand that address out on my site.

Thats where I got my PC version of Soul Reaver from. It came quick IIRC and in excellent condition :)

I got that site because it was linked on the main Eidos site :)

[blincoln]

Excellent, thanks Omega =). I'll post information on my site tonight.

[Deathwalker]

This is ridiculous I have everyone of the Blood Omen saga on PC and have waited patiently for there to be word that it will be released on PC. I now realize that I will never get a chance to play this game because I am not going to go buy a Xbox or PS2 for one game. Eidos this is bull!!!!!!!!!!

[Tesla]

You're going to have to import the UK version or play the waiting game (which could be forever). Over at www.gameplay.co.uk it's $50 and $8 shipping which is hardly any more than it costs in the USA. you will of course, be getting it later than USA console releases, and later than Europe too (shipping time). in their e-mail gameplay told me it might be about 7-15 days for regular international shipping. if you want the express international it'd be ~$13.60 shipping and it would take half that time.

as of right now we are *thinking* that the PC version will be released at the same time as the UK console versions. Chris is trying to get official word on the PAL release dates by monday, but so far the unofficial date is set as Nov 28th.

[fneh]

fine. Don't buy it then. It's your loss. Don't expect anyone around here to care when you come on the official forums with an attitude like that.

[- SpiritShift -]

I don't have a console either, so I'm going to have to import the PC version and believe me, from the UK will cost me $$$. (But it probably would have from the US too).

However, while I do sympathise, I see no need to speak so harshly. If you've followed the 'Defiance for PC' threads around here, you'll know that you're not the only one who's decided they have a bone to chew. And I'm sure Eidos knows by now that not everybody is happy with this potentially money saving process, so let it go.

On the other hand, one might get extremely lucky with a (much) later US PC version, but I think it unlikely.

[Yautjatraker/Albatraous]

if you are in the uk, then you can get a pc version of defiance.
i have already pre-ordered from game both the xbox and pc version (they only said november for the xbox release date, but 28th november for both pc and ps2 release dates)

this is the only game that i will own 2 copies of, since i got rid of my xbox blood omen2 and got the pc one instead so i download extras for it.

THERE WILL BE A PC VERSION!!! :D

and yes eidos do have a wierd view on the games market, they wont even support xbox live for petes sake.

and if the ps2 version comes out before the other two, i will be very cross:mad:

[Umah Bloodomen]

I'm sorry you feel that way Deathwalker, and you are entitled to either import it or not to buy it, however that's no excuse to use inappropriate language to convey your dismay here in our community.

[Glucolisis]

I still hope that we won`t have to import it. There are like 3 weeks for the PC version to be out in Europe, so there is still hope.

[Chaotix]

I also will not be able to buy this game unless it comes to PC. As a long-time fan of the entire series, I hope Eidos realises the large amount of disapointment I am holding. However, if they are planning to release the game later I will be fine with that. I can wait a few more weeks, but I do request an official announcement on the subject. Even if the PC version will never be released, please tell us so I can stop wasting my time waiting.

[blincoln]

As Tesla said, and others have said numerous times, you can still import the UK version for essentially the same cost as buying the game in the US.

PC people have it easy. I really, really, really wanted the Macross game that just came out in Japan for the PS2, and is never coming here. Not only did I have to pay more to import it from Hong Kong (more than you'd be paying for Defiance from the UK, even), but I need a console that's been chipped to play imported games too (which I have, fortunately, although it cost a pretty penny). Be glad you don't have to deal with regional lockouts.

[Deathwalker]

I do apologize for the harsh language. I am only concerned with ordering from overseas because from my experience with videotapes in the UK they use a different format than the US and when I get tapes that are only released in the UK it costs about $40.00 to transfer it to the US standard and i can't imagine what that would cost be for a PC game.

Once again sorry for the harsh language.:)

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
I am only concerned with ordering from overseas because from my experience with videotapes in the UK they use a different format than the US and when I get tapes that are only released in the UK it costs about $40.00 to transfer it to the US standard and i can't imagine what that would cost be for a PC game.

It'll cost nothing. PC games are the same format everywhere; you can take a PC game from Europe, stick it in your American (or whatever) PC, install, and play normally.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
I do apologize for the harsh language. I am only concerned with ordering from overseas because from my experience with videotapes in the UK they use a different format than the US and when I get tapes that are only released in the UK it costs about $40.00 to transfer it to the US standard and i can't imagine what that would cost be for a PC game.

Once again sorry for the harsh language.:)

PC games have no region encoding.

Regional encoding systems are stupid and pointless anyway.

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Tesla
Regional encoding systems are stupid and pointless anyway.

I disagree. They're not stupid or pointless; they're just evil. There's a difference.

[The Hylden]

Thank you so very much, Telsa, for that link. I have purchased the PC version. For the few dollars (if that) difference, I'd gladly pay. It might take a little longer, but at least I know it's coming. Besides, if the PC version miraculously (and I am still hopeful) is issued here in the US, they do not charge you until it ships on that site anyway. So, one can always cancel. I agree with all who've said it, that Eidos is making an error not releasing it here, all they have to do is ship a surplus of them to the big name stores. But, one way or another the Game is mine, so I am happy.:)

[DarkFuture]

SECAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only thing worse than us ntsc region 1!

i hope cd doesn't have to encode to that crap, if they do, i loathe them.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Stephenls
I disagree. They're not stupid or pointless; they're just evil. There's a difference.

I disagree, they are pointless, stupid, AND evil. :p

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Tesla
I disagree, they are pointless, stupid, AND evil. :p

Nope.

Region encoding ensures that the release dates in other regions aren't compromised by imports to a great degree. If, say, importing the US version of Defiance were easier in the UK, then the official UK release date would see fewer sales. This would result in US distributors making more money and UK distributors making less money. Thus, they're not pointless or stupid at all, since they make money for the people who set them up.

They're just evil.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Stephenls
Nope.

Region encoding ensures that the release dates in other regions aren't compromised by imports to a great degree. If, say, importing the US version of Defiance were easier in the UK, then the official UK release date would see fewer sales. This would result in US distributors making more money and UK distributors making less money. Thus, they're not pointless or stupid at all, since they make money for the people who set them up.

They're just evil.

I understand the purpose behind region encoding, but I still disagree. All it does is hurt consumers. Consumers have zero advantages that I know of under the region encoding system.

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Tesla
I understand the purpose behind region encoding, but I still disagree. All it does is hurt consumers. Consumers have zero advantages that I know of under the region encoding system.

And that's why it's evil but not pointless or stupid. Because it hurts consumers and profits the people in charge. It'd be evil and pointless and stupid if it hurt everyone.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Stephenls
And that's why it's evil but not pointless or stupid. Because it hurts consumers and profits the people in charge. It'd be evil and pointless and stupid if it hurt everyone.

Alright. I agree :cool:

[Stephenls]

Originally posted by Tesla
Alright. I agree :cool:

Yay! I win!

[OugaBooga]

OK,i guess i wasn't off from my original post of it being like 59 0 69 pounds = 120 cdn
from the post above you get this kinda rate:
50.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 110.164 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 GBP = 2.20329 CAD 1 CAD = 0.453867 GBP

THERE,my 120 i mentioned in an earlier post ISN'T THAT FAR OFF.
Now ADD that 13.99 for shipping WHICH i BET is in POUNDS AGAIN =
13.99 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 30.8240 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 GBP = 2.20329 CAD 1 CAD = 0.453867 GBP

Thats 140$ cdn so far,NOT to mention 15% sales tax yet =
140 + 21$ tax & WE STILL HAVE DUTY,OMG,I DON'T WANNA see how much THAT would be,they ALWAYS consider the product worth more then what you paid for it.
SOOOOO it's 161$ cdn before DUTY/custums.
THATS the price of a ps2 & xbox version in cdn $$ & you get it SAME day as released,SOOO importing is ....MAN this makes me :mad:
IMPORTING is NOT an OPTION for me,it's REDICULOUS! ! !
You have NO idea how HARD it is to refrain from swearing;)
Lastly,there has been no word of a US release date & my hopes are cause they're saving it as some sorta BONUS package:D
maybe a DVD release &/or including it as some sorta 'platinum/gold' edition like idos is famous for:) :) :);)

[Tesla]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
OK,i guess i wasn't off from my original post of it being like 59 0 69 pounds = 120 cdn
from the post above you get this kinda rate:
50.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 110.164 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 GBP = 2.20329 CAD 1 CAD = 0.453867 GBP

THERE,my 120 i mentioned in an earlier post ISN'T THAT FAR OFF.
Now ADD that 13.99 for shipping WHICH i BET is in POUNDS AGAIN =
13.99 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 30.8240 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 GBP = 2.20329 CAD 1 CAD = 0.453867 GBP

Thats 140$ cdn so far,NOT to mention 15% sales tax yet =
140 + 21$ tax & WE STILL HAVE DUTY,OMG,I DON'T WANNA see how much THAT would be,they ALWAYS consider the product worth more then what you paid for it.
SOOOOO it's 161$ cdn before DUTY/custums.
THATS the price of a ps2 & xbox version in cdn $$ & you get it SAME day as released,SOOO importing is ....MAN this makes me :mad:
IMPORTING is NOT an OPTION for me,it's REDICULOUS! ! !
You have NO idea how HARD it is to refrain from swearing;)
Lastly,there has been no word of a US release date & my hopes are cause they're saving it as some sorta BONUS package:D
maybe a DVD release &/or including it as some sorta 'platinum/gold' edition like idos is famous for:) :) :);)

You whole thing is flawed because you aren't using the right prices. It's not 50 GBP. It's 30 (Thirty) pounds.. and 30 pounds is equal to $66.35 Canadian Dollars. For the FASTEST shipping it's 8.50 pounds. That's $18.85 canadian dollars. I don't know Canadian importation laws but I don't see why you would have to pay sales tax or customs fees. Your total is going to be around $85.20 canadian.

www.gameplay.co.uk

This game isn't that much more expensive to import than it is to buy it in stores. The only difference is shipping is probably about $5 USD more expensive (whether regular or expressed) for the international part.

[OugaBooga]

Oh:eek:
BUT they STILL charge you 15% tax & some sorta duty,I know this tobe true cause ALL my shipments from germany & china have been.I don't see UK being any diff.So then i'am looking at about 100$cdn.i'll just wait & see whats the diff with Xbox & PS2 before i decide & then HOPE a "SPECIAL" US DVD release is out.:D

[Umah Bloodomen]

Originally posted by OugaBooga
You have NO idea how HARD it is to refrain from swearing;)


Probably not, however your efforts to avoid it are appreciated. Thanks. ;)

[SpliffTastic]

who else thinks that all no-US-PC-version stuff should be relegated to one thread?

[Tesla]

Originally posted by SpliffTastic
who else thinks that all no-US-PC-version stuff should be relegated to one thread?

and non-USA release date threads. :D

[Umah Bloodomen]

I merged what I could find. This will make it easier for everyone to keep track of, regardless of country. :)

[Chaotix]

Originally posted by blincoln
As Tesla said, and others have said numerous times, you can still import the UK version for essentially the same cost as buying the game in the US.


I live in Canada and it is much more expensive to import from UK. Aside from the actual game cost, shipping is expensive.

[MURDOCRAZIEL]

HOW MUCH IS THE PC VERSION IN THE UK TALKING IN US DOLLARS? AND WHY WOULDN'T THEY ADD SOMETHING TO THE PACKAGE ;) I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BUY IT I'M SURE I WILL :D

BEING IN MEXICO IT IS KINDA HARD TO IMPORT IT WHY BECOUSE THE TAXES I'LL HAD TO PAY :( (WOW I WAS KINDA ANGRY AT THAT TIME :$ SORRY)

WHY CAN I HAVE THE GAME ??? :'( IT IS TRUTH THAT IN MY COUNTRY I COULD BUY A LOT OF THINGS BETTER THAT AN XBOX :| HERE IS VERY CARO!!!!(EXPENSIVE) I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE DEFIANCE ON THE PC :( AND AS I SAID IN ONE OF THE THREADS I HAD POST ABOUT THE PC VERSION I CAN EASILY GET ONE IN THE US BECOUSE I HAVE RELATIVES THERE IN FACT I JUST BOUGHT THE MGS 2 SUBSTANCE FOR THE PC NEW SO I THINK TO DO THE SAME WITH DEFIANCE ONLY IF IT IS RELEASED IN THE US :(

I'M PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE HERE GUYS!!! AND GIRLS OF COURSE ;)

[Chris@Crystal]

Hello US PC users,
I am happy to announce that Crystal Dynamics and Eidos will be releasing Legacy of Kain: Defiance for the PC in the US and North America.

Other then the news of this upcoming release, I do not have any additional info on the version. The ship date will be released in the next week or so. The moment I hear of the release date I will post it here in the forums!

I hope this announcement will make many of you happy. :)
~Chris
Crystal Dynamics

[Tesla]

.......................

holy crap.

ps, i knew this was coming.

:D

[Exiler]

Wohoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thx for telling us Chris. Thought us North American users would be left out. Guess not, thx again Eidos. :)

[Valzara]

Sorry for keep asking :

How about those who live in other country? (I live in Asia) Hope it woundn't be too loong.

[Erving JeansBgone]

hey,i`v got a question,affter the us shipping of Defiance how long did it take to ship it into Canada? couse i wanted to know how long it would take the PC version to arive in Canada affter the US release

[OugaBooga]

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Horray horray horray ! ! !
This is AWESOME NEWS:)
I knew CD/Eidos would have a US PC version for their fans:) :)
1 Question >> WILL THIS BE A DVD release?
PLEASE SAY DVD release:)
Any possibility of a special version of some sort?:D
THX chris:)

[Valzara]

:mad: ..........................:( :( :( :(